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I'd say Amon Amarth has to be one for me. I remember getting into melo-death when I was about 15 or 16, and just fell in love with their stuff. Spent so many hours learning the riffs and lyrics from Twilight of the Thunder God. But it all started to become very paint by numbers as time went on to the point where I almost never listen to them now. I saw them live at a festival earlier this year, and that was fun, don't get me wrong, but they're almost never in my rotation anymore.

Incubus from 97’-06’ was *MASTERFUL*

Understandable picks and I agree on a lot of those. Especially Slipknot who I loved when I was in my teens but the older I got the less their music did anything for me and at this point, I'll willingly revisit Limp Bizkit's albums over Slipknot's.

Killswitch Engage got me into heavy music. I don’t really listen to them anymore but I still appreciate them being a gateway band and still look back fondly on the run they had from Alive or Just Breathing through As Daylight Dies.

NIN was my favorite band from 2001-2006-ish. My parents took me to see them twice when they came back for the With Teeth tour in 2005. I traded NIN in for Skinny Puppy basically (prefer SP still).

Incubus is probably number 1 for me. Make Yourself changed my life. SCIENCE was absolutely insane. Morning View reaffirmed that Incubus was one of the coolest bands around.

Change is the one great constant in life. Things that meant the world to you in high school will be nothing to you in your twenties. Happens again in your thirties & so on. Everything from your favorite foods, your haircuts, the fashion of your clothes will 100% change. Sometimes it’s even for the better.

Man...this segment is just pure example of the change of taste in music with growing up....I got pretty similar changes with keeping respect to those bands that shape my taste with years but going in more progressive and much complex direction of metal....😅

TOOL will always be my favorite band but I played them to death and saw them live twice (they were my first show ever, 2016 and Primus opened for them, really unforgettable experience). Nowadays I find myself listening to Mr. Bungle and Ween a lot more than TOOL.

Man. I must be a heavily nostalgic person because, no matter how unexciting some of the 'legacy' acts are, I still go back to their best material with the same level of thrill! For instance, I think Metallica, Maiden and Megadeth are quite boring nowadays but albums like Puppets, Powerslave and Rust in Peace still feel amazing to listen to. I often go back to them when I want to take a break from the new stuff out there. That's probably why I still fire up 1996 Quake on my PC when I have some time to kill. Classics never die! And it's not like I'm stuck in the past or anything. I love checking out new bands and constantly do so. But the oldies but goodies are always there like an old friend. As for a band that has lost its edge nowadays, I'd have to go with Mastodon. Give me Leaviathan-Blood Mountain era Mastodon any day over the current snooze fest. Lol

Wow, this is like you lifted my own experience from my brain. I wonder how many more of us are out there?

Ha! I love the descriptions that you made for each band that you aren’t into anymore. They’re like confessions after breaking up with a loved one in the form of one of the band’s song and album titles. Nice.

Korn used to be my absolute favorite band, and Slipknot and Incubus used to be top bands for me as well.

For me it was Marylin Manson. THe first album and then Antichrist Superstar-wow,this was special. The music was wild,angry,Manson seemed like some mad ,demonic rebel,an insane, dangerous visionary and I loved that.And then he turned into this silly glam-metal MTV crappy bad boy for naughty teenagers.

Good shout out about Incubus brotha. That Make Yourself album was my senior year of high school in a nutshell. Such a beautiful piece of art.

For some reason I still enjoy Slipknot,kind of a guilty pleasure thing for me.I think I’m just not smart enough to get into Tool,but I still bought the fear innoculum album with the screen too.

I still either enjoy or love bands like Rammstein, SOAD and Green Day because of their impact on me in my childhood or early teens, but have grown out of bands like Simple Plan, Disturbed and Killswitch Engage.

When I got back into heavy metal a little over 5 yrs ago, I landed in the softer end of things -- symphonic & power metal. Listened to the heck out of it, eventually discovered melodeath (Arch Enemy was my first) and went hard in that direction. Years later, I still like the softer bands like Nightwish, Epica, Hammerfall, Powerwolf, but it's so strange listening to them now after getting into the heavier stuff. If someone would have told me 6 yrs ago I'd be a full-on death metal fan at age 53, I wouldn't have believed it, lol.. Nice Tshirt there, budz.. That new album by Cattle Decap is something else, isn't it? Glad to see from comments in other videos that you'll be starting a new job too soon. Cheers.

I think the only band from the list I feel I need to step-in and defend is Korn. I think their last four albums are right up there with the early work. I'm not sure what he brings to the table, but since Head returned they've stepped things up. One, very simple, change they have made is to make their albums a little bit leaner - metal albums don't have to be long! - and I wish they'd taken this approach to a few of the earlier releases in their discography...

I never got into "Make Yourself" or "Morningview" but man, when "S.C.I.E.N.C.E." came out, that album hit hard and I'm still a fan of it.

Lorna Shore's newest, Pain Remains made me a fan whereas i didn't care about them beforehand. Also, Korns untitled really impressed me. Although very experimental i enjoyed the dark pain again. Great vid, man. Hail 90s!

The issue with bands that have longevity. There is usually a 2-4 album cycle where they peak. It's tough. They change their style, they are sell outs or dropped off. They maintain that style, it grows stale. Metal fans, we are a fickle bunch.

The best "sounds from the undergroud" moment, and maybe one of the best metal moments in history, was Devin Townsend anouncing SYL as "welcome to the sounds from my underpants!"

10. Staind 9. Slipknot 8. Ministry 7. Helmet 6. Faith No More 5. Carcass 4. Machine Head 3. Behemoth 2. Mastodon 1. Metallica

It’s remarkable how i feel about pretty much all these bands except Slipknot and AILD, which i never really got into the first and never listened to the latter.

INCUBUS S.C.I.E.N.C.E is a masterpiece to me and then I don't know what happened.. Saw them live on their first tour and they were so grateful at the reception they got like they were shocked how crazy people were going, I will never forget that, they were on tour with System of a Down and both bands blew us away! 😱

I still love the knot and have all 7 of the albums but I realized that they sound totally different than they did in 1999

Atreyu is a band that comes to mind.. I remember my cousin playing me their cover of You Give Love a Bad Name and a few songs for The Curse. (Which I'll occasionally go back and listen to a few songs) I also really enjoyed Suicide Notes, and even Lead Sails Paper Anchor album, I remember being on their website at school looking at pictures and their songs playing in thr background. I even tried to get snake bite piercings like Alex had. But after that album they progressively got worse till they went on hiatus and now I couldn't care less.

For me it would be Marilyn Manson, The Smashing Pumpkins and Fear Factory. I was listening to them all the time throughout my high school years. Now I play them occasionally. The are good bands but I moved onto different stuff. Thank you for the video!

Reznor is basically Tim Burton. From fascinating unique rebel to Disney's soulless executioner.

Have you done a guilty pleasures list yet? Eg. Third Eye Blind, 311, Silverchair, etc.

Tbh all the bands u have mentioned I'm the same with..Will put on korn or slipknot on every so often but these days I have different tastes tbh..great video btw

Fully agree with In Flames. Their downfall coincides with me becoming a massive Dark Tranquillity fan. With that said, Clayman/Colony beat pretty much everything MDM in my opinion. IF was untouchable in that era.

I'm amazed how similar my list of bands looks. I'm 2 years younger, but grew up in Sweden. Hammerfall is worth a mention, along with Amon Amarth, and for me personally, At the gates. 😅

Man I am with you with Korn. They were my all time favorite band from 1998 to 2007. Take A Look in The Mirror was a huge disappointment for me, so naturally, I fell off. I’ve been on a rollercoaster with Slipknot as well. Still love NIN because I was late to the party with Trent and company. As usual, great video man 🤘🏾

Lamb of God is also a band that I grew tired of, and I can't escape them either. Every single show I go to they are there. Always, they're just everywhere. I swear they're the opening act for like everybody.

Psycroptic is currently climbing up my list

At least NIN never fell off musically in my opinion. They put out a solid project just three years ago

Man this hit home. All of the first half of this is so real. I couldn’t have expressed my opinions on all those bands more accurately. The second half of this video, my taste never quite wavered in that minor tangent you took. And bam. I bet you hate what I listen to now and I probably think your music sucks too. Hahaha why is it so easy to divide what is metal.

What I find with these bands and a lot of other bands like them is that there is a period where they're sort of on the edge of the abyss mentally speaking. I find that when a band is on the edge of insanity that they sometimes tend to create their best work, which is unfortunate, but it's the nature of the art. Trent Reznor is in a better place now than he used to be. Same with Maynard and the Tool crew. I do like both of their modern work, including Fear Inoculum, but even I'll admit it's not the same level of amazingness that Lateralus and Aenima are.

This is quite depressing since every band on this list, I can ultimately agree with you 100%. It’s all bears down to legal issues, switching the magical band member line-up, and taking the chance to experiment with sound.

Im not as much of a slipknot fan as I was before, but TESF is by far my favorite slipknot album, and the only one that I revisit. Every track has something special

U and I must be about the same age, and we have EXACTLY the same taste in music. Very cool...

Another reason for Slipknot is because Slipknot isn't really about just the band anymore. It's really just Corey Taylor and The Goonies. Corey has turned into kind of a big phony by becoming something he would never be. He's technically a pop star in the metal world. And don't get me started on his solo work 🤢🤢🤢

I understand why people aren't big on Slipknot post Iowa but I love all of their stuff. People I know can't believe I still like Slipknot. Slipknot has gotten me through really horrible times. Korn is my 2nd favorite band but I feel they have been writing the same album for the last decade.

Your musical evolution is pretty much parallel to mine. I started with Korn in middle school, then started listening to Slipknot, Rammstein, Tool, NIN etc in early high school. Then I was introduced to Colony by In Flames and Follow the Reaper by Children of Bodom at the end of my Junior year in high school. I got really into melodeath for many years. Then I got really into Tech death after hearing The Faceless and then Obscura. Both are still in my top 10, along with Opeth, Btbam, Beyond Creation and several others.

NIN and Marilyn Manson were both massive favorites who fell away for me by about 2001 or so -- Trent Reznor and his genius-level understanding and use of sound design in music was a revelation to me, and the stuff he did in that era still is. But as you and others have pointed out, that specific spark that made NIN so amazing and cathartic seemed to vanish by With Teeth. (It's to Reznor's credit, I think, that the music he produced seemed to have the desired therapeutic effect, and he got much of his angst and personal demons out, which was great for him personally, just not for NIN musically.) Manson, on the other hand, seemed to lose steam pretty quickly for me -- really, the two albums after Antichrist Superstar had no ooomph, as far as I was concerned, so I would only check in every few years after those and find the music and the lyrics getting worse and worse . He just seemed to be poorly rehashing what he'd already said (and said in a brilliant and theatrical way that was very important to someone like me who was trying to break free of the shackles of living in the heart of the bible belt south.). I'm glad I moved on, though, before Manson evolved into whatever the hell he is now. As I've gotten older I've asked myself if the work of these and other bands I'd once lived to hear really did change that much or if I did, and while I think both factors certainly partially the case, mostly the bands in question just stopped being as potent and powerful as they once were; If it was all just about me becoming an old man, then I wouldn't love Imperial Triumphant or Sleepytime Gorilla Museum or various and sundry acts I've discord in the last two or three years as much as I do. I respect bands who are self aware and self respecting enough to hang it up and move on to create other entities that are more in line with their personal growth as people and artists, but the list of bands that have done that seems to be a short one.

A very odd one for me is Soen. I really love their earliest records (Cognitive, Tellurian, Lykaia), but after Lotus, IDK, their sound doesn't appeal to me anymore. Their last record, Imperial, felt like a watered down version of their general sound for the most part, and their new song is....eh? It's fine, but it doesn't move me NEARLY as much as any song from their first three albums.

I pretty much exclusively listen to extreme metal nowadays, but, Slipknot’s first two albums resurge on my playlist pretty often. For nu-metal they’re pretty extreme at least Corey’s vocals

Only band I can think that I’d put on a list like this is Bullet for My Valentine. Now I do still listen to the band (own every album) but since that final year of high school for me the band just hasn’t done it for me the way they used to. Basically lived and died by their music at one point but now their music just doesn’t have the spark it once did for me.

I'm with ya on slipknot, loved the first two albums and vol 3 had a few songs I enjoyed. Was like when metallica dropped the black album. But after that I was done, enjoy maybe 3-4 songs between the rest of their discography

The relationship with Slipknots music that u described is the exact same way I feel about Linkin Park. They got me into metal music, hybrid theory is still in my top twenty metal albums of all time, and I love meteora to an extent too, but the rest of their music is just...bleh. But because of the influence they had on my music taste, they're still one of my favorite metal bands.

We must be pretty similar in age…I’ll be 39 in October. Graduated HS in 2003. Same timeframe on almost all these bands/albums 😅. Cheers from Minnesota 🤘

Hi man, i'm super stoked to see your cd collection. Could you please do a video about it someday?

Megadeth is a big one for me. I got into them back in the mid-2000's, really digging into their old albums and loving almost everything from their debut through Risk. Even Risk I liked, though I didn't love it. The World Needs A Hero felt like the first mis-step and though I really liked The System Has Failed, UA is where the band fell off for me and I've never really felt any desire to listen to anything since. NIN I agree with, though the time of their fall off is a bit different for me. I got into them on With Teeth (which I still like quite a bit), dug into their prior albums which I love even more, and when Year Zero came out, I didn't really like it and I've felt that everything since has been incredibly hit or miss. However, I do enjoy Year Zero a lot more now. Not as good as their 90's material but on par with With Teeth if not a bit better. Muse is another band I used to absolute love. Origin of Symmetry, Absolution, and Black Holes are all, to varying degrees, great albums. Resistance is good, but there's a definite slip in quality here and with every album since, with The 2nd Law being VERY hit or miss, Drones being incredibly boring, and Simulation Theory being a step up in quality, but still not great. I haven't even listened to their latest, but have not heard good things about it at all. Dream Theater used to be one of, if not my favorite band, but they've been all over the place quality wise for at least 20 years now. I still check out their newest releases, but more out of some weird sense of obligation. Mastodon is, unfortunately, another one. Love Leviathan and Crack The Skye, but nothing since The Hunter has really impressed me and unlike most, I really like The Hunter. Once More Around The Sun is alright, but I don't love it and both Emperor Of Sand and Hushed and Grim were just... boring.

For myself growing up in the 80's as a teenager I remember hearing Metallica - Kill 'em All for the time when I was 15 and it blew me the fuck away! That band pretty much defined most of my high school years and I think their first four albums are still great to this day. But dam did they just fall off my radar once Load and Re- Load came out and I've never been much of a fan since. So glad I got to see Ride with Lightning tour back in the day and got to hear Cliff do his bass solo live and almost front row!

I still enjoy Lamb of God's newer stuff, especially since Mark Morton is such a killer guitarist

Always enjoy my old favorites still. Time changes all and no different with music. When a band peaks, one knows. But change is inevitable so we choose to keep listening or find a new fire for our soul! And then comeback to our old school here and their. Roots are strong

When I was first getting into metal, Strapping Young Lad was one of my favourite bands ever. Loved Devin Townsend and thought he was a genius. Today, they are still a good band, particularly Alien and City, but I remember being hyped for The New Black and was disappointed. Since then, and their eventual disbanding, I lost them as my favourite. Chimaira. Again, getting into metal they were amazing. I actually still like them. Up to and including The Infection they captured my heart. Then The Age of Hell came out and I hated it. Still hate it. One of the bigger falls off a cliff I've seen. Crown of Phantoms was better but my tastes were soured by that point. Then they disbanded. So yeah, was my favourite when discovering more extreme metal, but not my favourite now.

Did we just become best friends? This list is spot on 🤘🏻

I still listen to self titled and Iowa front to back regularly and will usually just pick and chose songs from the rest of their albums. Just naturally moved onto heavier music as well.

Good video. I guess Guns N' Roses would be this band for me. I got into GN' R many YEARS after their heyday (around 2000-01) and Appetite was my favorite album for a long time. I also loved Lies and the Use Your Illusions (I see where people are coming from when they say they're full of filler, but I dig most of the songs on both). I used to listen to them endlessly, then was so excited to hear Slash and Duff were reuniting with Axl Rose in 2016 and saw them perform in concert in 2016 and '17. Both concerts were awesome and they proved their naysayers wrong by giving their all into these new (at the time) shows. Now much later, I don't know what it is, but I'm just not into their music anymore. I don't hate it, yet also don't feel like listening to their songs and don't feel excited by any upcoming shows or any news surrounding them. They've just become a nostalgia act playing their old hits (practically the same set lists) and not recording *ANY* new material. It's like how many times can we hear the same old songs from Appetite and the Use Your Illusions? GN'R are this big name band, yet their entire legacy is built of 3 full-length albums, an EP and a cover album? I'll always have a soft spot for them due to nostalgia, but I've seen moved on to discover other bands (most of whom aren't riding off 1-2 albums from 30+ years ago).

Gojira for me. They went from these massive thundering riff journeys of albums to something much more moody and low key. I still like some songs off of L'enfant and Magma, but after hearing the first new single they dropped after that, I haven't listened to anything since. I still listen to From Mars to Sirius from time to time and it's one of the best sounding vinyl records I own, but god I miss the magic. Absolutely massive gateway band for me.

I too don't listen to Rammstein anymore. The main difference in me leaving the fandom is that I got bored of the sound of the band, bored of the sexual lyrics, plus the community was pretty toxic (still wondering why you didn't put Rammstein higher on your toxic communities tier list).

Thank God you're now in the right way! lol I began with Iron Maiden and Barón Rojo (old school spanish heavy metal band) in the late 90s

Korn was my Go To Band in the 90's and early 2000's

Lamb of God and Shadows Fall were my favorite bands in the early 2000's but not anymore

Glad to see Deftones didn't make this list. That band still continues to blow my mind and I'm glad to say I'm still as much of a fan now as I was when I 1st heard Around The Fur.

I was that pretension Tool head in high-school and it's the only music I cringe thinking about liking. I say that as someone who loved the first Nicklebacl album.

Aside from my Slipknot rant, bands I used to like but now I don't as much as back then Parkway Drive Wage War A Day To Remember Behemoth Slipknot

Personally, once I've digested everything there is to digest from a favourite band, which means listening to every album many times, then I phase them out to make room for some new stuff. Doesn't mean I stop loving their music, but since a band's discography is finite, you can always only go so far with it. Examples of this are bands like Opeth, Deftones, Mastodon, Gojira, Megadeth. I'm currently very happily "stuck" on Meshuggah, but I'm sure I'll eventually phase them out in order to consume another band's work in its entirety. Some cases though, fit precisely into what this video is referring to. Slipknot is one such example, back when Vol. 3 came out, I listened to it many times, but it just didn't have the punch that those first two had, and it's not because Vol. 3 had Slipknot's first mellow songs, but the whole vibe of the album. I can still enjoy it, but that was definitely the point where I got off of that train.

I’m only twenty and I’ve only really been into music for about 5 years now but I use to like five finger death punch for some reason and I’m glad I grew out of that. I still like some of their earlier songs but I really only listen to them if someone else puts them on

After discovering Faith No More this year (late to the party I know), I've been struggling to find a new band that's original and unique as them or to go back and listen to my favorite bands. My favorite bands are mostly Nu Metal groups (you know who they are), and if they were to become a thing of the past, then Faith No More would be the reason.

Can we show some appreciation for the AMAZING jokes in the timestamps? All jokes aside though, the ones for me would definitely be Metallica, Slayer, Slipknot, Bring Me the Horizon and Rage Against the Machine. At some point in my life these bands were my absolute favourite band, and while I still enjoy them all to some extent (maybe except BMTH though lol), they just aren't as good anymore. It's probably due to being exposed to more melodeath and prog, but Iron Maiden might be the main suspect as they have been my favourite band for many years now.

Same. I used to listen to Lamb of God SO much!

Tool, Slipknot, NIN, Meshuggah, Korn where my top bands as a early 00s kid. All great gateway bands that opened so many doors

Understandable list. Avenged Sevenfold used to be my favourite band back then. Until Hail to the King came. It was a huge major step down (or play it safe) and I've grown out of them for a long time. The Stage I couldn't get into it. Life is But a Dream is listenable after a few listens.

Kamelot. Used to be obsessed but they haven't been the same since ghost opera.

Amon Amarth is my prime example! Came in with Thundergod, Surtur Rising and especially Deceiver, then realized the stuff from 98-02 is their best and Fate of Norns and Oden also pretty killer. Jomsviking was a big step down, so was Berserker and I didn't even bother with Great heathen army. First 6-7 albums are still great though and I return to them here and there, and Surtur/Deceiver have a little bit of leeway for me because I learned the songs on guitar as a young lad. I remember the day when the video for either First kill or Raise your horns came out and I was like: "Oh oh..." Another band is Kamelot. Everything from 98-03 is absolutely killer, but every subsequent album has been worse so far. I love Tommys voice but the songwriting is a bit meh... There's three more albums to go for me but I don't expect things to step up drastically. Black Halo was the last one I enjoyed thoroughly.

Huge props for the top secret reference. Underrated movie.

What happened with Ren and Stimpy? I never understood Slipknot- they're fine, but their look just never matched the music, they aren't as heavy as they appear ya know?

I saw Deftones and Incubus with Taproot as the opener on the White Pony tour in 2000.

Entombed as well, for some reason when Nicke Anderson left it was not the same

Good choices. I loved Darkane from like 2000-2006. Expanding senses & Layers of lies was frickin amazing. After that it was more or less blegh😔. Did really enjoy their 2022 record 🤘

can agree 100% on slipknot and rammstein. after iowa i just didn't get the feel for vol 3. it has good single tracks, but overall just felt different. same for rammstein as well. after arise arise i've loved the new stuff, but after 1 listen i just dont have that urge to listen to them again where as mutter i could jam that or any of the early stuff over and over.

Welp, I have a little confession to make: I used to be a Five Finger Death Punch fan from when I first heard "Hard to See" at a friend's house when I was about 14 until a little bit after American Capitalist came out. By the time they started getting lamer and lamer in the mid-2010's, I had moved on from them. Also, for a short time around that same age, I liked a couple of Lostprophets' songs. Once I realized that they were essentially a trend-hopping band, I jumped off of them pretty quickly--so much so that by the time the whole disgusting truth about their lead singer came out, I had already moved on and my first reaction was (and I vividly still remember saying these exact words): "Thank gosh I'm not a fan of them anymore." I have no desire to ever re-listen to them ever again. No Devotion is MIIIIILES better anyways.

I also used to like a lot of European-style power metal when I was a teenager, but nowadays I'm more of a US power metal and trad metal guy.

lol we have very similar lists. Incubus was never a top band for me but they quickly went from a good band to a forgettable band. I'd throw Iced Earth in there for me. When they changed singers they fell off the map for me personally. Another choice for me would be All That Remains. Such a great band who kept chasing that mainstream dream and lost everything that made them special and unique.

Haha! It's like you named every band I would have listed in my top 10!

A lot of these I feel the same. One band that was definitely in my top 3 favorites in the late 90’s that I was obsessed with for a few years that turned to dogshit was (hed) pe

I think I have said the word "Same" like 20 times during this video. Great minds think alike.

I used to be really into these bands, but not so much anymore: Avenged Sevenfold, Dragonforce, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Metallica, Megadeth, Death Angel, Anthrax, Overkill, Testament, Killswitch Engage, As I Lay Dying, Cattle Decapitation, and Cradle of Filth.

I feel you, especially considering my nick

1. NIN is a huge one for me. I was obsessed with NIN and Burn is what launched me into them full force. When With Teeth came out, I was disappointed and could never get into it no matter how many times I revisited. Every subsequent release just felt more and more bland and soulless. I felt like the layered, meticulously detailed instrumentals were gone. I will say that Trent and Atticus on the latest Fever Ray release is incredible. 2. Tool is one for me too. I don't think they're bad by any means, but it seems so try-hard now with being extra cryptic and mysterious on purpose. Aenima was the peak IMO. HWAP wasn't deep or cryptic, it was just a middle finger to the "fans" who judge for being popular and making money. 3. Ministry: They've always been hit or miss with me over the years. I think peak Ministry was Filth Pig. Probably my least favorite when it came out, but easily the most consistent and sharp. Seems like every album up until then was mostly throw-away tracks with a few killer or classic ones...maybe Mind had more greatness than filler but Test, really?? I think when Houses of the Mole and Rio Grande Blood came out, they were OK but they were the beginning of this insane tempos and buzzsaw guitar approach that just get old after a while and they've been mostly meh since. Rio Grande Dub and The Last Dubber remix records are phenomenal though. Paul Barker really had a hand in their creativity and it shows. Revco as well. 4. Mudvayne: I fucking LOVED LD50 and was really looking forward to anything else from them. Unfortunately after what seemed like forever for their follow-up The End of All Things to Come was a wet blanket for me and their descent into butt rock territory. I saw they're on tour again with the face makeup. I'm hoping they have something cool brewing. They really could pull off the proggy metal thing well with songs like Internal Primates. That whole album was fire.

I agree with about NIN, everything from PH to The Fragile is a masterpiece, I do also like Year Zero a bit. Since most people mentioned Manson, I still like his music, even though they're not grandiose as the early 90 stuff, it's still fun to me

NIN is in a weird category for me. While the quality of the music has gone down, they’re strangely greater than ever as performers and an overall live experience. Like a fine fucking wine of technical excellence. Also - “Everything” is the worst NIN song ever made

The true kings of metalcore As I Lay Dying 👑

I completely agree with Rammstein. I got into them with Sehnsucht, then got Herzeleid, and Mutter. But Reise Reise just seemed like a huge drop off in energy and just overall.

This could be my list, with some differences, but I totally get it.