I agree with most of these games but Pokemon Arceus is the worst game i ever played... first game i ever ask for a refund :(

Bro snuck in Pokémon

>Xenoblade 2 got hit with the weebo artstyle/story >Star Ocean The Divine Force is considered mid/good but nothing standout >Neo TWEWY was an unnecessary squeal that actually downgrades the original's world, by appealing to the Zoomer demographic >Arceus, it's good but it already has that negative point of having an Isekai MC with a device he's not supposed to have. "Long long ago" when it takes place in a 1800s SInnoh region to Actual good mentions would have been SMT IV, Nier Automata, Dark Souls, FF7 Remake

@@wingsofwinter2600 Honestly, what was the point of leaving such a negativity-filled comment? I like all the games you listed too (though I haven't played much SMT IV yet, and I dunno if I'd call Dark Souls modern per se) but you don't have put down something someone else likes to highlight something you like. We can both like things, I promise! xD Heck, some of the "cons" you listed about a few games are things I like about 'em.

Xenoblade games are the best games I ever played in my life

That was an easy decision! Also, it’s the community that chose it!

It's a shame XB2 or 3 didn't make it on this list. They aren't for everyone, but for those of us who get into them, we REALLY get into them. Amazing emotional stories with the most interesting worlds to explore and sooooo many things to do. And even the DLCs are incredible (haven't gotten to FR yet though).

@@mewichigo3410 fr makes it even better😶

@@simonepiranio1380 I've heard that! I really want to play it but I'm really bad at finishing jrpgs that aren't Xenoblade lol, so I'm working through my backlog first. I played Torna a few months ago though and was blown away by its quality for a dlc!

@@mewichigo3410 torna is great ! I think future redeemed makes even the base game better given what happens to characters, and also it's full of Easter eggs if you played xenogears and xenosaga

@@simonepiranio1380 Ooooh, that's interesting! I did play Xenogears years ago so we'll see if I catch any of the references haha. I know Xenoblade is done now but I'm very excited for whatever the team does next!

Unless it's games like darkest dungeon, iron oath, battle brothers, etc. Then it's a stress blanket, lol. Comfy is best left on a less broader tag like jrpgs.

@@belldrop7365 😂 fair point but I personally still enjoy that style of game mechanics even if the difficulty is dialled up to 11

Me too!

All fantastic games!

Highly recommend playing the pre-Firis Atelier games, the ones that are actually voiced in English. I know people are like "jUsT rEaD tHe SuBtitLeS" - but what about all of the battle voice lines that AREN'T subbed? How about when you craft an item and the alchemist says a phrase (not subtitled) that you don't understand? Completely shatters the immersion. No dub, no buy.

​@@LEWIS1992oh, interesting. Which ones are dubbed that are worth playing??

Well mostly because atelier games don’t focused too much on story(they even recap it for free if you want lol), and there’s only like 2 returning characters, some mentioning here and there but you don’t need to know.

@@Eclin yea I just bought the game on sale a week ago and still enjoying it...

Honestly not,the Jrpg of these era doesn't even come close to the likes of 90s or early till mid 2000s if we compared them to some jrpg from that time like Chrono Trigger Suikoden series Breath Of Fire 1 till 4 Tactic Ogre Dragon Quest Heavenly Bride(the best Dragon Quest story tbh) Chrono Cross Xenosaga 1 Tales Of Symphonia and Abyss Star Ocean 2 Seiya Monogatari Parasite Eve 1 Linda Cube DQ VIII Terranigma Xenogears FF6(my personal favorite but 7 is much bigger FF7(the real game changer Vagrant Story Heck even the YS Kefin(which was not age well these day)was like a breath of fresh air back then if you were a longtime YS that played from the first and Xanadu fan,since they were they among the one without the bump system and fresh open area game

Phantasy Star is a criminally underrated RPG. II and IV are among my favorites of all time.

Hope you enjoy Golden Sun! It was my first JRPG, and still one of my favorites to this day!

I love it too. That said, it is WAY too grindy, especially if you're interested in playing around with the jobs. I stopped playing it because of that. I intend to get back to it at some point, but I do hope that any sequels address that issue.

@@Xoulrath_ yeah, it is a grindy one, but I didn't had problem with it, dungeons (or sewers lol) however felt underwhelming, hopefully sequal fixes that part.

I'm inclined to agree but man some of those choices at the end where a little bit too left of field for me and soured my experience, I still liked it a lot but it's not on the level of three houses, the impact and pay off didn't hit me as hard as three houses did, great step in the direction for square though, would love more tactical jrpgs in this style.

Triangle stategy is very good but fire emblem is VERY bad

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Unpopular opinion, but I do wanna play Triangle Strat. It looks fun and pretty. Story looks like a bore fest, but I'm more interested in the gameplay. I wanna complete it

@@cqllel5186 you may be surprised. It’s heavily story driven, enjoy! Gameplay is a great

Your additions are just as valid as the ones here! Thank you for sharing! (Also, fingers crossed for a Scarlet Nexus sequel!)

No problem!

Thank you so much! Which two don’t you own?

@@BacklogBattle You're very welcome! Atelier Sophie 2 and Chained Echoes are the two I don't have at the moment. I actually *have* played Chained Echoes on Game pass, but I'd rather get my own digital copy at some point. And I've heard nothing but amazing things about Atelier Sophie 2, especially the combat system.

Absolutely. NA a stone cold masterpiece, in my opinion!

I played roughly 55h+ of that game on NS. I only made it almost halfway thru 9S playthrough and kinda got bored. I still gotta catch all the rare fish before I progress to the next chapter (bcuz completion and missable content). I've done all quests, found all weapons and upgraded most of them, I've maxed out my level, and more. It's been a while since I played so I kinda forgot about most of the game. Kinda forgettable tbh In all honestly, the game is alright. It's definitely nothing special. I haven't found myself intrigued in anything, from story to gameplay. It's just kinda plain. I wanna play more of it (when I get that nitro deck) and finish the story. Maybe the A2 playthrough will finally make the game interesting in lore at least It's a unique game, but it really feels over rated af to me. I don't understand the appeal. Maybe I missed something? Maybe I haven't gotten to the good part yet? As someone who completed Metal Gear Rising and Astral Chain, NieR Automata kinda lacks. I just don't enjoy it as much as I did the other 2 games

Such a fantastic game! Makes me wish Capcom made turn-based RPGs again!

Yes!! I recently beat this too and it was so much fun! Makes MH very accessible and it has a ton of post-game content too which is a treat.

Tales of arise is pretty mediocre. There are many tales games better than arise.

Why do you say that [curious] ? @@tarstarkas1091

Excited to try this one. Already bought it, just playing something else.

@@BlueGrovyle enjoy it’s a favorite of mine ^^

Exactly! The magic in some of these games, which have that effect on many of us, is so palpable.

The Lost Child was fun. I really got into it. Surprised anyone would mention that. I'd be that guy putting some more obscure game on a list like this just because I can, even if calling it one of the 10 best rpgs of the modern era is a stretch.

I'm very much partial to the more orchestral arrangements of DQ songs as I feel that the base MIDI renditions just sound like they don't have a lot of depth.

Unfortunately, every Dragon Quest games has repeated music. It's not just Dragon Quest 11. I love the orchestrated music and many of the DQ songs are great. But the composer just doesn't play an different tune and in such there's only like 15 tracks it plays in each franchise. So yeah. I lobe Dragon Quest. But it needs more tunes. Also DQ11 is far from the longest game in the franchise. That honor goes to DQ7 & DQ9. Plus u can skip cutscenes if u wonna keep the pace going.

It's like Final Fantasy - play whatever you want!

That’s the plan!

Thanks! One thing that I do whenever I feel I'm getting burnt out on a genre or game is to simply start exploring other series or genres that I don't normally like. For instance, I rarely play Western RPGs because I just love JRPGs a lot. But from time to time, there are gems that come out that I'm grateful for having tried. I did that last year with Elden Ring and Tiny Tina's Wonderlands and had a blast - especially since both games had co-op! And technically Stranger of Paradise is more Souls-like than JRPG, but I enjoyed it a lot too! Sometimes, you need to take a vacation from your vacation, in a manner of speaking, to truly appreciate what we got going on that's good, after all!

@@BacklogBattle that's definitely something I need to do. I've got my eye on Baldurs Gate 3 for the PS5, and I'm probably going to play through Alan Wake and Control again before AW2 comes out, so maybe that'll bust me outta my slump. Especially with so many RPGs coming out over the next few months!

If you're curious about BG3, I put out a guide a week or so ago! It's got non-spoilery stuff and I think it does a really good job of getting JRPG fans mentally ready for what they're about to play!

It's a bit muddled if you look at it on Wikipedia (they have the 7th and 8th generations overlapping by YEARS LOL), but 2017 saw the release of the Switch, which encompasses the PS5 and Xbox Series. Unfortunately, World of Final Fantasy doesn't count - but it's a great game!

Clearly the best game ever made is Pong. Your opinion is invalid. 😁

Last dungeon aside it was incredible

I find story and characters average but it was really fun to plau (gameplay-wise)

You could say it arose past your expectations

Absolutely loved 13 Sentinels! Would definitely have made this list!

FFVIIR is better than XVI, and definitely something that can actually be called an RPG. I like FFXVI, but it's pretty much just an action game with the absolute bare minimum of RPG elements. TMNT: Shredder's Revenge has more of an RPG feel than does XVI.

Good question! There’s controller support, so I’m guessing eventually it will!

I wanted to like it. I've tried it a couple of times now as I've got access to it for free (thanks PS+). The problem is that it's just TOO old school. I love turn-based games, and I don't even mind them being very static with little to no animation. It doesn't take a lot to impress me with regards to a solid turn-based system. That said, simply spamming attack over and over, with the occasional magic attack here or there, is so late 80s. In fairness to the game, I never got more than a couple of hours in and never got a party. I couldn't even make it to Heliodor I got so damn bored. I've played too many of these games and I'm tired of always starting out with weak ass heroes who are supposed to be the chosen saviors all the time. Give me some fresh gameplay damn.

​@Xoulrath_ That's not really an problem. That's just you being subjective. And that's fine if your not a fan of it. But part of what makes Dragon Quest works is how simple, yet challenging it can get. It doesn't add stupid gimmicks, making different materials or added things that are so complicated or absolutely broken in which u may or may not doing something wrong here, dragging out for no reason or lacks any challenge. Which is something modern Final Fantasy games & Pokemon failed to capitalized. It's also about an grand adventure and exploring strange, but interesting worlds and builting up your characters. That's what makes the series great. If you don't like it, than I understand. But saying it's " too old school " is pretty unfair to complaint.

@@jaretco6423 that is a problem. You telling me my opinion is my opinion is about as obtuse as an internet warrior can get. You for SOME reason feel the need to jump into a conversation betwen two people discussing why the DON'T like the game, then tell them that they are wrong. I TOLD anyone reading WHY I didn't care for the game. YOU not agreeing with MY reasons does NOT invalidate said reasons. The reality is that games like Dragon Quest are EXTEMELY niche precisely BECAUSE they are stuck in the past. It IS old school. Not ONCE did I say ANYTHING about mindless busy work or unnecessary crafting systems or anything else. You read into my response what you wanted to, to justify your reply back. Sorry dude, but spamming attack/magic, defend, heal is NOT challenging. It IS mind-numbingly boring to MOST people, even a hardcore lifestyle gamer like me. I've been doing the whole gaming thing for 41 years. So yeah, I've been around the block. The same damn game could be played DECADES ago. Now I'm not going to sit here and say that people don't still want games like this, because clearly some do. And I'm also not going to be upset at fans of games like this wanting an old-school experience with modern graphics and convenience. It doesn't change the fact that it IS old school, as I've already mentioned. I find it fucking hilarious that a game like Octopath II looks old-school, yet actually adds to the genre, while a game like DQ11 looks amazing, but feels like I'm still playing Dragon Warrior on my NES. It's fine if that's what the fans of the series still want after all this time. But maybe don't expect for the majority of gamers to still be appreciative of a game that could have been made easily in the 90s, and even has a mode that allows you to see more or less what it would have looked like.

@@Xoulrath_ Whoa. Calm down dude. I didn't say u were wrong. But your also not right either. U complaining about being niche or old school isn't entirely the games problem. That's just you. Most RPG'S does exactly as Dragon Quest does, just differently. Also, I like how u compare Octopath Traveler to Dragon Quest when Octopath Traveler or games like Final Fantasy and such does exactly the same as Dragon Quest does like spamming magic and other stuff. So complaining about doing the same magic stuff in DQ, but not to Octopath or other RPG'S that literally does the same thing is invalid.

@@jaretco6423 first of all, don't start an unneeded and unnecessary argument with someone, then see their polite yet firm reply, and tell them to calm down. I'll say this again: you brought YOUR OPINION into a comment about someone not liking DQ11 and another person (me) sharing my thoughts, aka OPINION, on why I felt the same way about DQ11. It is YOU whose opinion was not needed here. Nothing that you said was relevant to the discussion at hand, other than to tell me that my opinion was my opinion. Secondly, tell me that you didn't play Octopath II without telling me. The combat system there is NOTHING like DQ11. If you think that it is because it's turn-based, and that makes them the same, then you couldn't be more wrong. I suppose that you're also going to tell me that Persona 5 Royal is exactly like DQ11 too? Or what about One Piece Odyssey? Bravely Default II? Go on, please enlighten me as to how those very distinctive, yet clearly turn-based systems, are exactly like DQ11. Games using "magic" isn't the problem. Games using a turn-based battle system with such limited scope that it can literally be found in games made in the 80s is. Get back to me once you've comprehended what it is that I'm actually saying, and we can continue to debate further. But if your third reply to this thread is to simply regurgitate the same thing that you've said twice already, then I'll not bother to engage with you further. In any event, have a good day.

The Switch version is alot faster than the PS4 version and u can skip cutscenes to keep the pacing going.