I fully expect the ducks to be a regular guest star in each episode now haha!

I don't mind JRPG's that are long and there 2 reasons. 1.NG+ for more replay options. 2.If you are on a tight budget and you can only buy one game. You have to buy one game that can last you one or two months tops.

Xenoblade Chronicles X sitting in a corner: all... 3!?!?

These long JRPGs are good if you're young, had a lot of free time and low on money, but sadly as you grow older, time is a luxury.

For DQ8 the BEST BY FAR version is the 3DS. It adds content, quests, dungeons, characters, items and most of all a cool system of photo quests that make you go hunt for rare monsters, naturally points you to sidequests, make you look for little secrets and all while rewarding you with a lot of items you'd have to farm 0.% drop rates to get in the ps2 version. By doing the photo quests you end up fighting monsters and naturally farm. Btw for DQ games i apply a rule for myself to gear up my team every 2 villages, makes you farm a bit and always stay on the right curve.

DQ11 was too long. The time travel plot felt like reloading an old save file and doing all over again 😅

I love Persona 5 but it's so long, actually the longest JRPG I've ever played. *Cute ducks tough...

DQ8??? No way!!! Once you can use the casino, you can abuse the F- out of the roulette table. Some save scumming and 1 hour later, you can give everyone grimham whips and all the resources and gold you'll ever need!

I used a guide that has step by step instructions on what to do on each day. I still topped 120 hours to finish the third semester in Royal. Super long game for sure.

If you play Dragon Quest VIII the way it was meant to be played meaning not skipping battles,exploring everything,using recipes,doing sidequests like the monster arena,and kill a bunch of metal slimes later in the game to prep you up for the final boss you don't have to grind. There is only one point in the game where you DO have to grind a bit (again if you have played the game the way it was meant to be played) and that is before the main fight with Doulmagus.

Glad to see you hit 100k! One of my favorite creators 😊

DQ11 was also VERY long 😅 It took me 123 hours to just beat the second ending and there was still at least 20 hours of content left (I didn’t complete The Wheel of Harma and stuff.) You get your money’s worth I guess, it was a really good game 👍

I like long Games. It makes Fun and i didn't need new Games. So it is cheaper for me.😂❤

Atelier Ryza 1. The final boss fight is just such an unnecessary difficulty spike.

DQ8 is not too long

I'd be interested to see God Eater give things another go, making a new standalone entry or an online game or something, because it'd be a lot of fun to have a Monster Hunter equivalent that wasn't so blaze about its story aspect. I think I'd give that a shot right away. :)

i absolutely loved record of agreast war, but when i was younger i had more time to burn than i do now. Now it takes a lot of work to crush an rpg. Even now i often want to go back to older games.

Xenoblade Chronicles is my favorite game series so the games cannot be too long for me 😅

A game that provides a satisfying ending to one of its chapters makes me want to drop it, as I feel like I got closure. This has happened to me in so many games, like Tales of Graces F, that I didn't want to play the additional content, or in Tales of Arise with the defeat of the last Lord, so I never got to play the second half of the game. In a game like Agarest with 5 generations, I doubt I could play it in its entirety.

Well, your persona PoV gave me a huge hint for how to look at all these other "long" rpgs here. Thanks.

With Persona 5 Royal I was loving the game, but some of the palaces were so incredibly long, that I just wanted those parts to end as quickly as possible. I ended up getting the Platinum trophy, but some parts felt like a chore.

Record of agarest war was released on the ps3 in America, perhaps not physically, but definitely digitally because I played the digital American version.

Record of Agarest War is now on the switch with bonus you can use to speed up the games if you so choose.

for me, instead trails in the sky 1 felt a 20h game strech to 50h

Unpopular opinion here but Chrono Cross was like this for me. The game just dragged on and on and I cared less for certain parts of the story. I still beat it and enjoyed it overall though. But it didn’t have to be as long as it was.

Call me crazy, but I played three of the games on this list and completed all of them! I didn't do all of the content like side quests in DQXI and FFXII, but over two years I put 500+ hours into P5R.

Dragon Quest VIII - that pretty much summarizes my experience. Great game until you just beg it to stop.

Liked especially for the ducks lol!

at least these games won't make us wait for season passes years and years

I loved Trails of Cold Steel III... it was CSIV that really left me feeling like I was taken hostage and so happy when it ended.

I think half the problem nowadays is everyone has huge backlogs of games, and games overstaying their welcome feel even more apparent as occasionally you may want a game to end so you can start the next. I completely agree with this list, I actually really disliked DQ8, thought the story was boring, i was expecting so much more. I really love persona, but some of the social link stuff can get somewhat tiresome.

The words 'grind' and 'farm' are as fundamentally intrinsic to jrpgs as water is to a fish. You do your time, plant the produce with blood, sweat, and tears, and watch it blossom into something beautiful. I remember spending 300+ hours in DQ7 for ps1 and got my first F in school because i was playing it so much at night...but that was by and far one of the most satisfying jrpgic experiences ill ever have. If youre like me, you hard grind with a direct goal in mind. Personally, I love the thought of not just beating enemies, but crushing them (when you first hit 9999s in an Ff title fir example...you know the feeling. Lengthwise, long jrpgs feel like a fantastic journey in which you have to pace yourself, just like really traveling to faraway lands. It CAN get exhausting. It CAN get tiring. But if youre focused on your goal...saving that particular world, changing a misfortunate future etc...its not so bad. In the longer ones, you simply have to pace yourself. I remember the ps1 days...where id open up the box and see 3 and 4 cds...and id just smile to myself. "Huh...looks like its gonna be a loong journey." Those....are the ones to genuinely cherish.

dragon quest 7 was a very long game as well

I'm so torn on Persona 5, it's both one of my favourite JRPG of all time yet one that I would struggle to replay or recommend due it it's length. I felt like the last 2 dungeons could have been removed and some of the royal content could have been optional with the ability to skip or play after game completion as a flashback or something.

I'm surprised that Valkyria Chronicles 1 wasn't mentioned considering the amount of time grinding needed, adding upwards of an extra 10 hours.

70 hours for persona 5? did you speedrun thorught it? i had 250 hours and only felt like i scratch the surface of all the game has to offer. i wish i could go back to it but, the deal with the devil to play the game...... im good , thanks

I guess he just doesn't play Disgaea much. Grindiest series with the worst difficulty spikes I've ever seen even if you stick to the main plot. I don't mind 70 hours of new content in the main story, but actually achieving that is passing rare.

XenoBlade Chronicles 2 Map user interface is Terrible

I just received God Eater 3 from Amazon 😂 feels... well it was cheap atleast. $12.

Grind on gold golem...?dude.. just find the king metal slime on the dessert..

When you say XC2 I really understand you I LOST too 😅😅 you show the factory and yes what a fu***** maze 🤦🏻

When I really loved a game, it has never been too long.

Surprised that Fate/Grand Order is not on this list. I love the game, but I sometimes feel like not playing because of how low the material drop rates are, making it unnecessarily grindy. Not to mention some of the characters need an absurd amount of specific mats to power up.

Grinding in RPGs is like shooting in a shooter, its always been a part of the genre and always will, if you dont like grinding then maybe RPGs arent for you

This is the main problem I have with the Cold Steel series. Even not doing sidequest stuff those games still take waaaaaaay too long. I felt like I was reading a visual novel due to the amount of useless text from characters that add nothing to the main story. The only rpg series that I pretty much had to take months long breaks during my playthroughs before I actually finished them.

And here I am thinking P5 is not long enough 😅 thanks for the rest

I haven't played Namco X Capcom but I did play Project X Zone 1 and I played it for 30 hours and thought it was getting way to repetitive for my liking, so I saw how far I was for it to end and I was only like halfway trough 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣. Had to drop it sadly.

FF12 Zodiac Age on modern systems is a treat. I can play dozens of hours of it easily. It’s one of the few JRPGs I played through multiple times nearing 100 hours. Actually the only other JRPG series I’ve done that for is Kingdom Hearts.

Spellforce 1. A plodding RTS-RPG that combines the biggest pacing problems of both genres alongside a meandering plot and a world that was originally intended to be an mmo. You would think that levels would go by quickly with both an army and the ability to rain fireballs from the sky but no every map has a way of turning into a slog

ok, Genshin Impact is almost a JRPG, so i could include it in very first position. the dialogues can't be skipped and the game has TONS AND TONS AND TONS of dialogue, making it 10x longer than what was supposed to be!

#1 Persona 5 FUCK ME THIS GAME IS GOOD BUT AAAAAAA WRAP IT UP

Tales of Vesperia. Over 100hours single playthrough. Last hours were chore. And I didn't do 100%

Xenoblade Chronicles 1 was the only one in the series I just wanted it to end and felt it went on too long lol😅

Miracle Warriors for the Sega Master System. The game is probably 20 hours long, but most of that time is spent grinding. That said, the music is pretty dope.

Strangely, the Xenoblade Chronicles games took me around 360hrs collectively to complete and I usually get drained if a game crosses over around 50-70hrs however I could have carried on so much longer in these worlds. Absolutely phenomenal games, I just hope they come to PC and their successors as they are wasted on the Switch.

good to see the ducks again

is Utawarerumono Mask of truth really that long? i feel as VN its not that long. its feel good enough that make me wanna know the story more. yea maybe because i enjoy the game, because its not really make me grind the game.

I'm 120 hours in on P5 royal and just beat the original final boss. Haven’t even started the third semester content yet. I was loving it but i feel like I've hit a wall now. Maybe ill play something else and come back later. I hope it is worth the extra time.

In DQ8 you can earn a lot of money from a Casino in Baccarat (western continent). But you have to do a twin side quest to unlock the place first

Do you guys think ff tactics should join this list?

I played Persona 5 and when I finished it, I didn’t want to leave that world. So I didn’t, I immediately started new game + and went for the platinum. And then I did it again for Royal. To be honest I disagreed with a good chunk of this list, including Trails of Cold Steel 3. If anything it’s Trails into Reverie that deserves to be on the list, now that was grind heavy. I still enjoyed it, but the game literally had a narrative justification for grinding.

Persona 5 took me about 140 hours to complete. Good game, but the last 30 or so felt like a chore, and I wish it ended sooner.

Damn i platinum half the games on this list 😅

I think its skill issue on your end when it comes to the God eater trilogy cause if that is what your saying the whole monster hunter series is the same but longer and harder

Jokes on you, you coulda had free ducks.

I dunno who overstayed their welcome. P5 or me? 😅 I've spent an unhealthy amount of time in between that and P5 Royal.

When I think of games that are too long, Persona 5 is always the first to come to mind. The first 50 hours were great but after that I was ready for the game to end. Of course it dragged on for another 50.

If a RPG is good then it could never be too long, im really big on endgame and postgame content like with the star ocean and tales of games, i think 60-70 hours is perfect for 100%ing any AAA RPG

52 hours of grinding before one boss?

I absolutely love DQ VIII. DQ VII however I could not WAIT to complete. Like 130 hours in a single playthrough ooooooof. But tbh a good 15 hours was in the casino haha.

Lmao! Duck man~

Dragon Quest VIII is the only DQ game I've ever played that isn't Rocket Slime and I never beat it. I got stuck on the late Dhoulmagus fight and I felt I had to grind even more than I already had to even stand a chance, so I never went back despite mostly liking it. I only just started XB2 a few months back and I don't know if I'll go back to it despite really loving playing XB:DE for the first time last year. I feel I've completely forgotten most of the tutorial info and yet I feel there's still way more to come. The Blades, while cool in concept, seem like a needlessly convoluted progression system for what is ultimately just a collect-a-thon or should I say collect-a-mon.

Ahem…not ducks but gees?

Bug fable is a great game to play if you like paper Mario series. While having issues I wish weren't there like how hard mode is just unfair sometimes. It's a blast Wish namco x Capcom was ported over to future systems or remastered. I love the X series so much. Played project X zone 1 and 2. Both were enjoyable and love the interactions of the cast a lot. Wish we got a third one. Yeah the Xenoblade Chronicles series sucks for grind. You are either too weak and miss every attack or too strong and the game is just waiting for your group to finish the fight. One was probably the best in terms of letting you do combos while 3 I love how you get 7 party members but wow it was awful to grind. Story wise not that good and 2 like rex sucks. The dlc for 3 was the best in how short it is and quickly you can beat it.

OMG Dragon Quest VIII.... If you want the best ending where the MC gets with the Princess you have to beat the extra dungeoun with the hardest enemies in the game. The only way to do this and not take 200 hours grinding is to farm Metal King slimes. Let me tell you that is some of the most fun you will have in gaming (thick sarcasm)

I will never understand that people complain that games have to much content.... Oh no, I got to much value for my Money.😂

I think Erick is just a different kind of gamer from me, and that's fine. I have 350 hours in Monster Hunter Rise and I still go back to it and add another 10 to 20 more. Same with MH World.

The Persona franchise.

Persona 5 Royal has got to have the longest story in any game I've played. It's an easy game, so I haven't done much grinding or sidequests...I'm not even done with the original story yet, and I'm on the cusp of 100 hours. Insanity. I'd also add Shin Megami Tensei IV to this list, just because the Neutral route forces you to do so many quests that it turns a 50 hour game into a nearly 80 hour one.

how about GOD WARS The Complete Legend...a average of 160 hours to beat all stages T_T

VALIDATION! Thank you

Has he done jrpgs that respect the players time?

You thought DQ8 was long then you should try 7

Haven't played most of these games, but I can still agree with many of them. Dragon Quest in my opinion is not welcome at all, so even 5 minutes is overstaying. Ditto for Persona. Instead of Agarest War, I played some of Agarest War Zero. Less generations, but same idea. I think the first 2 God Eater games story got additions over time. They didn't have DLC back then, so the expansions got released as new versions. Nonetheless, judging now I can agree that they were too long. God Eater 3 was different to me though. I wasn't too long and it was way more fun than the previous games. The rest I just don't really know much about.

Glad to see someone else not just hyping Persona 5 outright. It was a decent game and had fun moments, but it was just way to damn long, and then royal made it even worse. What enjoyment I had with the first half of the game was ruined completely by the remainder of the game that just kept dragging on.

out of the dozens and dozens of rpgs I have played, the ones that overstayed it's welcome and made me angry because of it, was dragon quest 7, and I played the 3ds version which is supposed to be the better version

I was 95 hours into DQ8 and just couldn't do it anymore, it's already not a series that is particularly exciting and it feels like it should've ended halfway through. Edit: Actually did 150 hours on FF12. It didn't really bore me, but there was a point I had no idea what the story was about.

Haha nice ending

If you wish a RPG would "just end" then you probably didnt even like the game that much from the start, i 100% completed cold steel 3 back in 2020 on the ps4 pro and loved every minute of it, it could of been twice as long and i would probably love the game even more, but i also play these games more for the combat and progression so maybe thats just my perspective, dont get me wrong i loved the story and characters as well but i was just so focused on the gameplay loop, time just flew for me

I dont think Persona 5 overstayed it's welcome. I think the beginning of the game is so damn long, though, that replaying can be a drag.

12:00 Could you please go into more detail on this whole "no politics in games" thing. Like what kind of stories do you want then? Children's horror?

These DAMNnnnn ducks lmao

I don't mind long games as long as they are good. FFXII and Xenoblade Chronicles are 2 games I could put in hundreds of hours and enjoy myself. I think Xenoblade was more of a skill issue for you though. The blades can all be had pretty quickly if you understand how. You can equip chips that improve core drops for example, which you can farm using the combo system. You can get lots of cores by exchanging experience too - experience is very easy to acquire in xc2 by farming the end-game bosses. The non-rare blades do have uses too with the merc missions. Even leveling the blades can be very fast using the merc mission feature. Ursula's affinity thing is very grindy, true, but the entire point of it is to mass-level the affinity trees of all of your blades. Regardless, all that stuff is optional in XC2 and you don't need to use any of it to beat the game, which I thought was one of the criteria for your list since you seem to mention the main story a lot for the other entries on your list but you focused a lot on the optional stuff here. Most of the story blades are actually the best ones too, which means you don't need to engage with the random cores at all. You don't need KOS-MOS or anything to beat the game and most of the rare blades are actually worse than the story blades. Hell, you can literally beat the entire game with Mythra/Pneuma, and Poppi, Brighid, Pandoria, Wulfric, Herald, Crossette, and Corvin are all super strong and are all gifted to you. Shulk, Fiora, and Elma are all earnable/gifted in the post game as well. That is literally 80% of the best blades in the entire game without using the random cores.

Any game that lasts more than 30 hours overstays its welcome with me, unless it's something special. So basically anything that has: Grid based combat Monster collecting Job systems Unnecessary crafting systems (i.e. not an Atelier game) An abundance of minigames Empty open world with repetitive activities Absolutely anything involving cards Etc. - is all but guaranteed to overstay its welcome with me, with rare exceptions. I'll give them a shot, but I know I'm coming in with extremely negative bias. That said, most of the examples on your list were those special exceptions to me.

I think long games aren't for people who wants to rush. By rush I mean like having this mindset -> I just want to finished it already so that I can move on to the next game on my wishlist You'll end up suffering especially if you're also too curious to be able to skip it with ease too. It's for people who wants to feel their money's worth, and don't feel the need to rush it. I think some people actually appreciate the longer games more even if it has useless conversations in it. It makes them more attached with the useless banter. Then they're probably end up feeling empty or the blues after finished it.

Dude I totally agree on DQ8. I liked it enough to finish it, but it's a very tedious game

17:24 GREEEEN DOG!!!!!!

I just finished the first trails of cold steel and I'm saddened to hear that the 3rd is the same way. Tried to do every sidequest alongside growing relationships, filling notebook entries, etc... and I was just burned out at 60 hours at the 2nd to last chapter. I ended up skipping all the dialogue and cutscenes asking when will it all end. Guess ill have to take a break first before starting the 2nd trails of cold steel game and eventually the 3rd,

I’m probably gonna get flack for this but I thought xenoblade 3 just dragged on for way too long and recently I think ff7 rebirth has done the same

It's weird how you hate things in mainstream titles that you love in indie ones