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10 Movies That Are Popular For All The Wrong Reasons

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Joker isn't meant to be the hero.
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@whatculture
@whatculture 8 ай бұрын
Just to clarify, whilst Jemma has done the VO for this list, this script wasn't written by her, and therefore aren't necessarily her views. But yes, we can see that this one is wide of the mark and we'll do better! Apologies if we have offended anyone.
@Somnogenesis
@Somnogenesis 8 ай бұрын
A clarification worth making, well said. I'd gently point out that whoever wrote it probably at least ought to have noted to her that it's "...listen to their id" at 10:20, not "...listen to their ID", mind...
@csurampower
@csurampower 8 ай бұрын
Don't apologize. Anyone offended by this video is softer than baby shit.
@visualglitch91
@visualglitch91 8 ай бұрын
Wait, why would anyone be offended by this? What's wrong with the vid?
@jamesianhutchison1165
@jamesianhutchison1165 8 ай бұрын
It's amazing how many people can't/don't bother reading the "credits". Personally, I'm loving Jem. Her delivery is really clear, concise and well paced. More please.
@BerylliumGold
@BerylliumGold 8 ай бұрын
How? It was all spot on.
@Trandview
@Trandview 8 ай бұрын
I think SCARFACE should be on this list. So many people saw Tony Montana as a blueprint, and not a cautionary story😢
@AwkwardLoser
@AwkwardLoser 8 ай бұрын
That’s actually a great one
@mikes2622
@mikes2622 8 ай бұрын
Same with Wesley Snipes in New Jack City. Bangers love those movies. I always say "you realize they all died right?"
@JUnit41484
@JUnit41484 8 ай бұрын
"I guess he thought I'd be into The Godfather 'cause I'm black. Wrong! I'm into The Godfather 'cause I'm a cinephile. I like Scarface 'cause I'm black." - Darryl, the office
@adamvancleave9200
@adamvancleave9200 8 ай бұрын
And then there was that alternate ending sequel game.
@liverpooljft9623
@liverpooljft9623 8 ай бұрын
Could say that with almost all criminal movies and tv shows. Tony Saprano too. He was a dick but was very well liked by audience.
@SoManyRandomRamblings
@SoManyRandomRamblings 8 ай бұрын
Also Fight Club was supposed to show those who felt lost how easily it is for others to manipulate them into doing wrong by weaponizing that lost feeling.
@vokasimid5330
@vokasimid5330 8 ай бұрын
Well said
@claymccoy
@claymccoy 8 ай бұрын
When a fan approached Michael Douglas praising his character from the movie Greed and said "Yeah, greed is good!" Michael Douglas replied: "Dude, I was the bad guy.."
@SantomPh
@SantomPh 8 ай бұрын
you mean Wall Street?
@Veritas.0
@Veritas.0 8 ай бұрын
Give me your stuff.
@ArcherSuh4721
@ArcherSuh4721 8 ай бұрын
Not trying to be that guy, but you mean Wall Street, not Greed (though Michael Douglas's father Kirk Douglas was once in a movie called Greed.)
@jamesianhutchison1165
@jamesianhutchison1165 8 ай бұрын
Whiplash is almost a psychological horror, but there is absolutely no arguing with the performances. So it is *kind of* inspiring, if you want to become an actor.
@utaukappasensei2
@utaukappasensei2 8 ай бұрын
I am SHOCKED "American Psycho" wasnt on the list, sigma bros literally take the main character as goals like what?
@winstoncely694
@winstoncely694 8 ай бұрын
I almost would have added A Clockwork Orange here as well. People seem to absolutely adore Alex, but he's a horrible person that deserves going to prison. Somehow though, people only see his charisma and revel in his anti-authority missing the point of the whole film.
@Zett76
@Zett76 8 ай бұрын
Well… many people, me included, "adore" villains, to a point. More in a sense of being fascinated, than loving them. If not, why are there so many devils out there, on Halloween? :)
@rvaldrich
@rvaldrich 8 ай бұрын
How did y'all leave off Glengarry Glen Ross?! Alec Baldwin's 'Always Be Closing' scene is held up as the most inspirational and motivational speech in all of business. And the whole movie is an unapologetic, cautionary tale explicitly warning against ending up like his character.
@mike902
@mike902 8 ай бұрын
Yeah I wad surprised it wasn't on this list. I worked in a bank for a while and one of the trainers would show that clip during sales trainings.
@bobross1829
@bobross1829 8 ай бұрын
IDK, I loved that film for the great performances, but I always got they all were awful people, it is the whole point of the movie. Yes, some people quoted some of the lines because they were such good lines, but I do not think anyone really thought they were good people.
@ArcherSuh4721
@ArcherSuh4721 8 ай бұрын
​​@@bobross1829But the thing is some people are aware that they're awful but still admire them as heroes because... well, money. This doesn't really go for Aaranow, Moss, Levine, and Williamson (ESPECIALLY Williamson), but definitely Alec Baldwin's character and Ricky Roma.
@donniemorton162
@donniemorton162 8 ай бұрын
I love that people realize the effects of ptsd in first blood how well stallone played it
@zachryder3150
@zachryder3150 8 ай бұрын
Falling Down is the best solo Joker film ever made.
@michaeljohnson6905
@michaeljohnson6905 8 ай бұрын
The fact that people empathize and support DFENS at all is troubling. The movie goes out of its way to say "this is horrific and childish". There's a reason the movie pauses and has a Nazi tell him "we're the same!"
@FHL-Devils
@FHL-Devils 8 ай бұрын
@@michaeljohnson6905- But by the same token, we live in a society that actively takes more and provides less at every possible opportunity. Policy for the sake of bureaucracy. Government enacting rules just so they can say they did something. Our lives are absolutely not better than they were 20 years ago - and it's because our lives are actively being made worse.
@zimmothyd1266
@zimmothyd1266 8 ай бұрын
Comments are not disappointing today, lol. Thought Taxi Driver or Raging Bull would have made the list.
@koseorhun
@koseorhun 8 ай бұрын
The cult mainly became popular on Joker though, not Taxi Driver or Bull. I don't think including just one is that bad.
@Kicia84
@Kicia84 8 ай бұрын
No American Psycho? It's loved by the same crowd as Fight Club and Joker. For the same reasons.
@patriciafenwick5846
@patriciafenwick5846 8 ай бұрын
Loved most of these, but First Blood is my favourite. It was a tragic story and having known someone who was shunned in this way, it hit home. I have watched it countless times, and the last scene with Trautman always gets me. I thought Stalline was brilliant, and the song at the end is just so true.
@mikes2622
@mikes2622 8 ай бұрын
I just saw a clip of Sly on Stern and he said the first cut of the movie was so bad he tried to buy it back and destroy it. And I don't think most people misinterpret it because of that scene at the end where he breaks down.
@j.d.panalagao2167
@j.d.panalagao2167 8 ай бұрын
@@mikes2622 100% agree. People know, and remember what this movies is about. The others were slam bang action films, but this is simply an excellent human story, and people, let alone huge fans of it such as myself, fully understand this.
@j.d.panalagao2167
@j.d.panalagao2167 8 ай бұрын
Absolutely. Seeing this machine that our government created, then forgot about after his usefulness to them was gone, breakdown and let go all those years of emotional trauma is such a tragic, but tremendous scene, perfectly coupled with the theme at the end, as they both walk out together.
@machtmer
@machtmer 8 ай бұрын
I agree. The original First Blood is one of the most important movies about the experiences of Vietnam vets ever made (if not one of the only). But the message did get (kinda) lost (but also not really) in the sequels.
@TheBeat710
@TheBeat710 8 ай бұрын
I remember watching Whiplash when I was in high school. I didn't want to be like Miles Teller's character. To get so absorbed by perfection that everything else unrelated to your goal falls to the wayside. I'm not that surprised that people would look up to that. . .
@PrinceIsot
@PrinceIsot 8 ай бұрын
Falling Down, Fight Club and Law Abiding Citizen are on this list but I GUARANTEE Gone Girl was never even considered, or any movie like it.
@ericperreault8889
@ericperreault8889 8 ай бұрын
I was thinking about that one as well when I saw the title of the video
@FHL-Devils
@FHL-Devils 8 ай бұрын
Falling Down is a social commentary masterpiece.
@Tanstaafl_74
@Tanstaafl_74 8 ай бұрын
The only thing wrong with Law Abiding Citizen is that Jamie Fox's character managed to trick Butler's character. Per the plot to that point, it was a major break in writing. Morality aside, that bit shouldn't have and couldn't have happened.
@FreeRangedPuppets
@FreeRangedPuppets 8 ай бұрын
THANK YOU
@TheRealGras
@TheRealGras 8 ай бұрын
Supposedly the ending was rewritten to have Fox win after he gained more popularity in the era it was made.
@jamiemiller1482
@jamiemiller1482 8 ай бұрын
As I recall, that was Jamie Foxx’s idea to get the ending changed…
@bbsy1
@bbsy1 8 ай бұрын
Test audiences wanted a happy ending. Blame them; the original ending actually made sense.
@Fcblover
@Fcblover 8 ай бұрын
didn't see the number one movie "sound of freedom". It looks like a tv-film. But this list is pretty accurate. Also an unpopular opinion but a film like "In to The Wild" should be included, too many people find that one to be insperational, while clearly it isn't... It's about young people who have nothing to complain about and who aren't dumb, still making very dumb decisions out of self-pity. others could be "Natural Born Killers" , "Taxi Driver", "The wolf of Wall Street", "The Big Lebowski", etc...
@tempvsfrangit3854
@tempvsfrangit3854 8 ай бұрын
Pretty much any movie made of Alan Moore's works of anything printed in 2000 AD magazine, in general. Bros stating "Rorschach is my favorite hero!" or V or Dredd or Nemesis. V didn't really care who was in the blast radius, Dredd was still Fa, and Nemesis did in fact blow-up a school bus full of Terran children. Mr Moore's point was how "hero" is an award granted long after the fact; "the end learns to justify the means" --Lord Acton's letter to Archbishop Creighton, 1887. Appreciate Jemma-Gem using sister's image in the intro😉 Keep up the good works💜
@d.a.baracus
@d.a.baracus 8 ай бұрын
No Starship Troopers? The masses see it as a simple sci-fi action movie, missing the point that it's actually a satire on fascism, more specifically fascist propaganda. The propaganda was too good as the masses fell for it, not realizing that the humans were the villains in the movie.
@bubbathedm
@bubbathedm 8 ай бұрын
No, Starship Troopers is what happens when a director is too lazy to read a book that is less than 300 pages long and choose to purposely misrepresent almost everything the book says. Starship Troopers Terran Federation is a classical liberal government where pretty much the only difference is that you have to participate in the government( nowhere in the book does it say that military service is the only option) to earn the right to vote, i.e. have put actual skin in the game
@lonnieeastin6401
@lonnieeastin6401 8 ай бұрын
"...Starship Troopers? The masses see it as a simple sci-fi action movie," Speak for yourself, my boy. Barney Stinson dressed as an actual Nazi. Leather trench coat and all? What? Too subtle? I think it was pretty heavy handed with the satire of fascism. I do like the movie. As well as most of the ones on this list. But I also understand what they were doing.
@d.a.baracus
@d.a.baracus 8 ай бұрын
@@lonnieeastin6401 Maybe you did, but most people didn't. That's why Starship Troopers had 2 live-action sequels & 2 animated sequels, only 1 of which tried to emulate the satirical tone of the original. The other 3 were straight action movies (tho #2 might be considered more horror than action).
@lonnieeastin6401
@lonnieeastin6401 8 ай бұрын
@@d.a.baracus Yeah, I guess so. I remember seeing some direct to video sequel type of deal. I never saw them. I thought the original movie said everything it needed to say. Not that I hate movie sequels that miss the point of the original. I think Rambo II falls into that category. But I love that movie and the original. Even though Rambo is basically two different characters. "I want to be left alone and not brutalized" vs. "I'm going to single handedly win the Vietnam War."
@lonnieeastin6401
@lonnieeastin6401 8 ай бұрын
@@bubbathedm That's funny. A friend of mine read the book and hated what they did in the movie. He described the armored things that they wore in the book but didn't in the movie. And I was like "you don't pay good looking actors to be in your movie and then cover them from head to toe with armor." You can't see their beautiful faces. LOL
@VicGeorge2K6
@VicGeorge2K6 8 ай бұрын
Falling Down was a descent into darkness for the main character. He wanted to see his daughter for her birthday and wasn't allowed to by his estranged wife, and with everything that happened on that day, he just snapped and went slowly down into the deep end. It was a good thing he was finally stopped by the retiring police officer. Also, the narrative of Joker was like that of American Psycho: you couldn't tell which parts were real and which parts only happened in the main character's mind.
@SantomPh
@SantomPh 8 ай бұрын
the people and issues the Falling Down character man had to face- the golf course snobs, the lazy construction workers, the storefront fascist, the petty fast food center and the Latino gangs- channel everyone else's frustration
@beanbean78
@beanbean78 8 ай бұрын
The first rule of fight club is we don't talk about fight club
@FreeRangedPuppets
@FreeRangedPuppets 8 ай бұрын
Law Abiding Citizen is an awesome movie that certainly highlights the failures of the American justice system in a very raw way. Was Shelton’s character unhinged and a domestic terrorist? Indeed. But the message it was trying to convey that we need social reform and a major overhaul of our justice system is still there.
@michaelkilbride6420
@michaelkilbride6420 8 ай бұрын
Scarface (1983) could be another worthy addition considering how Tony Montoya is lionized by men
@caincha
@caincha 8 ай бұрын
I agree with the criticism against Fight Club and I do remember personally seeing all the 'bros' acting like mentioned in this video. However I seem to remember watching an entirely different movie and what I took from it - to this day! - is 'the things you own end up owning you'. Ever since I try not to have more than I can carry with me and I been living like this for decades now (damn that movie is old 😳)
@jrlonergan6773
@jrlonergan6773 8 ай бұрын
Great job, Jem. Best newer presenter by far
@DTM1337
@DTM1337 8 ай бұрын
Not sure why but I feel like I've seen this WhatCulture video before but with a different voiceover? This video was posted 9 hours ago, either way great content as always
@shaunreinert5202
@shaunreinert5202 8 ай бұрын
What happened to that cool guy who called everybody "NERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRDS" ??
@user-jj4pm2wr6o
@user-jj4pm2wr6o 8 ай бұрын
With some of these films I think we all get frustrated sometimes so it can be nice to see some of that frustration reflected on film
@michaeljohnson6905
@michaeljohnson6905 8 ай бұрын
That's a childish mentality, being as these movies go far, far beyond "frustrated"
@bbsy1
@bbsy1 8 ай бұрын
Considering the best part of Joker is how well it captures the comic characters personality without ever coming off as cartoonish, that is really funny. The movie literally plays out his mantra of his backstory being multiple choice, only slightly hinted at in The Dark Knight. It even shows that everything is mostly in his head. Anyone with even the most basic knowledge of Batman would also know that.
@danielsantiagourtado3430
@danielsantiagourtado3430 8 ай бұрын
Great to see it back
@WillisVision
@WillisVision 8 ай бұрын
I always liked "First Blood" because it's one of the few movies not bogged down by an unneeded leading lady.
@AgentOhr
@AgentOhr 8 ай бұрын
I agree with this list, though I have to admit, I never saw Sound of Freedom. A lot of war movie classics could have been added to this list, like "Das Boot" or "Full Metal Jacket".
@camaronshoultz6137
@camaronshoultz6137 8 ай бұрын
I have no interest in Q Anon or any idiots like them. I saw Sound of Freedom because it looked like a compelling movie that shined a spotlight on a horrible issue plaguing our society. And I liked it too. Hard to watch at times. But no political motivation behind me seeing this movie
@bobafett5926
@bobafett5926 8 ай бұрын
100% this. I don't tow any of the 'Q Anon' line, but Sound of Freedom was eye-opening, and horrific that it has been so prevalent for so long.
@tommystrickland6268
@tommystrickland6268 8 ай бұрын
I think you guys are kind of reaching on this one. I've heard a lot of people talk about the movie whip lash and I've literally never once Heard anybody say that JK Simmons character was supposed to be some representation of flawlessness. When it comes to learning something everyone I've ever heard talk about This movie has known very much so that he is a flawed person and is abusive to his students. I think maybe you guys are just latching on to the fact that people recognize that sometimes those monstrous things that people do to each other actually push the other person To do something great. Which also is no justification for anyone acting in that way, Just want to clarify that before Anyone thinks that that is what I was meaning...... I will give you guys the Fight Club entry though. Because I feel like that one's pretty split and half. There's like half of the audience who actually understood the meaning of the movie and realized what was going on and the other half That just thought it was a really cool movie and wanted to be Tyler.
@SpelCastrMax
@SpelCastrMax 8 ай бұрын
Taxi Driver
@AwkwardLoser
@AwkwardLoser 8 ай бұрын
No one actually takes Joker that serious why in almost 2024 is that a narrative that is still going?
@TheSamLowry
@TheSamLowry 8 ай бұрын
The economy keeps getting worse for everyone but the wealthy, that's why.
@MikeM-np4od
@MikeM-np4od 8 ай бұрын
Most people don't take any of these movies that seriously.
@nicksoapdish157
@nicksoapdish157 8 ай бұрын
I really loved this list. I'm hoping What Culture dose another one. Here's some more ideas looking at the comment section I hope they can add to the next list if they choose to make it. Glengarry Glen Ross Taxi Driver A Clockwork Orange American Psycho Scarface Gone Girl And something I would like to see personally added is "About Schmidt". If you would like to add any more to this list feel free to in the reply section.
@spankywzl
@spankywzl 8 ай бұрын
I liked Joker the first time I saw it... When it was called Taxi Driver, or King of Comedy. Good for you, What Culture! You are not wrong, and I concur with your assessment of many getting the wrong impressions from many films. You seem to have ruffled some incel feathers with this list, as even a cursory read of the comments will show. The only reason Sound of Freedom was, as you say, "a box office smash", was because of its unconventional marketing campaign. Wealthy conservatives in many theaters bought out every seat at every showing. Angel Studios, which distributed the movie to cinemas, came up with a "pay it forward" marketing campaign, which encouraged viewers to tell others about the movie and to buy tickets for other people who could not afford to do so themselves. This grassroots campaign helped bolster ticket sales.
@bobross1829
@bobross1829 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, this is completely overstated about sound of freedom and is just a hater reply to its success. Movies give out free tickets all the time as part of promotions and no one sits around counting how many were giveaways. No one bought out whole theaters. And there is nothing wrong about their pay it forward campaign. It was brilliant and the only thing "wrong" with it is other studios never thought of it.
@wmrphotography7349
@wmrphotography7349 8 ай бұрын
So basically this video is written by someone who has typed the names of the movies into twitter and took those opinions as what everyone is thinking. Sorry, but most people can like a movie, even one with a bad main character, without wanting to emulate them. This had to have been written by someone that lives online, entirely.
@Kingsta2000
@Kingsta2000 8 ай бұрын
Absolutely love Rambo First Blood very real depiction of police brutality. harassment and abuse of power. Pushing a traumatized war vet to take action. Would have been even better had John Rambo been Black or Hispanic.
@TheBaggyT
@TheBaggyT 8 ай бұрын
Sound of Freedom is an interesting one. I'm not part of the QAnon movement, but my own research into various aspects of Western culture (especially American) have shown me that child sex trafficking is rife, and that there is indeed a massive cover-up of it all. Therefore, the movie being "widely criticised as inaccurate" is basically a misleading statement that is designed to aid that cover-up. I have not found much (if any) evidence of the movie being inaccurate beyond minor changes either for anonymity purposes or to keep a good pace for the movie. Please show me this evidence, instead of just blindly copying the "critics" (who we know are biased from their comments on other movies).
@Kazeshini11
@Kazeshini11 8 ай бұрын
Law Abiding citizen's Jamie Fox likable character ? Have you seen the damn movie ? Have you seen the comments about it ? 99.9 % of people agree that if you cut the last part of the movie then it becomes one of the greatest movies of all time. The hero is Butler who shows how slimy and unjust the justice system is and how reputation is held up higher than justice which is shown in a really good way on how easy it is to hate Jamie Fox's character. The only person in the movie who I personally feel didn't deserve to die was the blonde woman who at the very least knew there was something wrong with what they were doing.
@TimTE01
@TimTE01 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for proving their point.
@Tanstaafl_74
@Tanstaafl_74 8 ай бұрын
@@TimTE01 Not really. I mean, it could be worded better, but the point remains that in the plot Butler's character was set up as a guy whose job was to take a global approach to removing problems before everything went sideways. When it did go sideways (I.E. His family murdered, including his daughter raped in front of him) he took that same global approach to removing the problem. If you participated in the problem, he removed you. Did it matter if you had second thoughts? No, you participated, and thus were removed. Kind of a scorched earth approach, true, but expected and completely fit within the character they built. The only fault with the writing of the movie is that somehow Jamie Fox's character managed to trick him. That was just dumb.
@Kazeshini11
@Kazeshini11 8 ай бұрын
@@TimTE01 Thanks for being an NPC, their point was that people glorify what Butler's character did in the movie. I don't. What I glorify is the system it exposed and how rotten it is. Violence is never the answer for anything. Much less targeting innocents. But what most people, me included, dislike about the movie is how an attorney outwitted a masternind like Butler's character. It simply makes no sense. That is the issue most of us have with the ending of the movie. It's like if you said the CIA carefully planned the termination of another world leader but it was foiled by the janitor who figured it all out.
@liverpooljft9623
@liverpooljft9623 8 ай бұрын
It's a good movie and it's been a while since I've seen it, but Butlers character had to die in the end. He just wouldn't stop and had started killing innocent people. The blonde lawyer was unnecessary. Also, his cellmate. Can't remember if it was stated why that guy was in prison, but he basically murdered him for nothing.
@seaberry11
@seaberry11 8 ай бұрын
That’s exactly the point they were making. Butler isn’t the hero. Dude was murdering secretaries and regular workers to prove a point. His point wasn’t wrong, the justice system in America is shit. That doesn’t mean we start murdering people that work in that system…they didn’t create it, and can’t change laws to fix it. The medical system sucks too…should we kill doctors if our loved ones die? If she didn’t see the movie, you still just provide her comments right.
@togusa1989
@togusa1989 8 ай бұрын
I think what they are apologising for is the original upload of this list. I might be wrong, but I think the number 1 & 2 spots have been rewritten and are now less attacking of certain groups
@dougim
@dougim 8 ай бұрын
I have watched exactly one of those films.
@thefuturist8864
@thefuturist8864 8 ай бұрын
At the time (early 90s) Falling Down wasn't seen by *anyone* as a 'political' film at all. It was one of the first examples of how filmmakers in the 1990s depicted the reality of average US life, and how a person's own experience of their individuality stands in stark contrast to the part they end up playing in a complex, profit-driven economy. Regarding Fight Club, it's difficult to say that it's apolitical, but it doesn't easily fit into the left-right dichotomy of our current society; it's about the desire on the part of the person to self-define (something many on the modern left ought to empathise with) and not to merely fit into the roles pre-arranged for them by society (though it's also about how easily a life of non-conformity can transform into an entirely conformist movement, complete with uniform clothing, ideas and speech). Where Joker is concerned, I know many who empathised with the portrayal of a 'straight white male' who experiences no advantages whatsoever from possessing any of those characteristics; Arthur Fleck is a fascinating character precisely because he stands as an example of how our tendency to overcategorise and to rely on assumptions *genuinely* marginalises people. Put simply, Fleck is a marginalised person who doesn't fit in with the contemporary picture of what such a person should look like. He's not a hero, but he's a symbol of those parts of social reality we inevitably leave out when we pursue justice based on a simplistic idea. It's also important to be aware of 'presentism', or the (all-too-common) phenomenon of assuming that we, here and now, have the correct understanding about things that happened in the past (whether distant or recent). We do not have 20/20 moral vision, and while there will always be things we learn that lead us to see past movies in a new way, there will *also* be cultural and moral changes that will alter what we prioritise and what we condemn (eg. the phenomenon of the 'incel' both in its reality and its stereotype didn't exist in the 1990s). Lastly, we have to accept (difficult as it may be) that there *are* different political and ideological perspectives from which to analyse movies, and that what counts as an example of something dangerous or silly from one perspective will be considered of vital importance from another (and, unfortunately, neither will likely see past the limits of their own perspective).
@TheSamLowry
@TheSamLowry 8 ай бұрын
Fight Club is a blueprint for creating revolutionary cells. So, obviously, left wing.
@basquat76
@basquat76 8 ай бұрын
Jesus you're unbearable. Where did you copy paste all of that from. It's clearly a young mans view of these films which is just an interpretation and not necessarily what the point of the films.
@nothingmusic42
@nothingmusic42 8 ай бұрын
roflmao, fight club was written by a gay man criticizing 90's toxic masculinity.
@Zett76
@Zett76 8 ай бұрын
Fight Club is about feeling something. Feeling ANYTHING. About seeking purpose, in a purposeless world. It‘s as easy as that.
@lonnieeastin6401
@lonnieeastin6401 8 ай бұрын
I agree with all of them except Sound of Freedom. When it came out, how many headlines included Qanon in them? Even though it's never mentioned in the film? It seemed that critics NEEDED some reason to hate it. And all decided on the same thing. Which, again, was never in the movie! Yes, Tyler Durden, not a hero; Joker, not a hero. the guy from Falling Down, not a hero. Those couldn't be clear enough. Sure, they were cool to watch, but not to be emulated. But Sound of Freedom, a fact-inspired tale of child sex trafficing is your number one? The guy who it's based on, actually did save two children from sex trafficers! Is it the overtly Christian thing that makes you hate it? Well, just say "I hate it because it's overtly Christian." Don't deflect into Qanon conspiracy theories. Yes! A conspiracy theory about a conspiracy theory. Good job.
@Vixen522
@Vixen522 8 ай бұрын
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@richeaton5752
@richeaton5752 8 ай бұрын
..."Is it the overtly Christian thing that makes you hate it?"... Exactly!
@brettleach7149
@brettleach7149 8 ай бұрын
When the government and media work hard to label something as a conspiracy theory in 2023, you can safely assume it's factual.
@integral
@integral 8 ай бұрын
@@richeaton5752 Bless your heart. 😂
@rubmor
@rubmor 8 ай бұрын
"Fact Inspired" is certainly one way to say "fictional"
@bobross1829
@bobross1829 8 ай бұрын
This list was okay until the top spot, but I am glad Whatculture is apologizing because the comments on Sound of Freedom were frankly insulting to its audience and blatantly untrue. Sex trafficking as presented in the movie has not been "discredited" by anyone (it 100% does happen) and calling its audience Q-Anon (who are very tiny and are really only boogieman to the far left who vastly overestimate their numbers) is intentionally insulting. There was no Q-Anon content in it. It would be like hating on "Taken" because it does not show the common way kidnappings happen. No duh. It is a movie. Sound of Freedom never said it was a documentary, and that kind of criticism is entirely the intentionally obtuse nitpicking that sets people off. The only thing some people, like this video, seem to object to is that it was made by a christain company and christain people supported it, as they want more christain movies that are also good. So you are basically calling half the country wanting to support movies that they would like as "the wrong kind of audience". And its inclusion does not even jibe with the subject as what is the disconnect about the film and how the audience received it? The film shows very bad child trafficking, people who saw the movie thought this kind of trafficking was terrible. It was not like the movie secretly glorified trafficking, nor did the audience weirdly think the trafficking was "cool", so what is the "wrong reason"? You are allowed to say you do not like SOF or that its plot was unrealistic, like any revenge/ rescue a kidnapping victim movie . But to insult people's intelligence and insult people for seeing it goes way too far.
@TrueMithrandir
@TrueMithrandir 8 ай бұрын
yup, nailed it!
@SnuSnuDungeon
@SnuSnuDungeon 8 ай бұрын
Grow up and get over yourself
@TheBaggyT
@TheBaggyT 8 ай бұрын
Good comment. I also left a comment about it. Like you say, the contents have not been "discredited". The only "untrue" elements I've found people comment on are the small things that have been changed either to keep the real people anonymous or to make the pacing of the movie better while keeping the same substance. This whole "QAnon conspiracy" thing is basically a mainstream media talking point to try to discredit people. A fair chunk of the QAnon stuff isn't "conspiracy", it's just not talked about. Child sex trafficking is so big that combined with other parts of the sex trade, there are more slaves today than in the entire time slavery was legal. It's like calling "Schindler's List" as being marketed to an audience of Nazi sympathisers, because it shows that a Nazi could be a good man. The irony being that Schindler's List (the movie) is based on a book (Schindler's Ark) which is historical fiction... meaning a lot of elements are made up! But critics don't comment on that now, do they?
@lurkerrekrul
@lurkerrekrul 8 ай бұрын
Falling Down - The main character is often described as a psycho, or as being crazy, but over the course of the movie, he shows remarkable restraint (for a villain) in dealing with the assholes who antagonize him. He busts up the shop, but doesn't directly attack the owner. He has the opportunity to kill the surviving gang member who tried to kill him, but he only shoots him in the leg. When the guy pisses him off about using the phone, he destroys the phone booth, but doesn't even threaten the guy. When he accidentally fires the rocket into the tunnel, he instinctively puts his arm out to protect the kid who helped him. And when he's hiding with the family and thinks he hurt the little girl, he get genuinely upset. I'm not saying that he's a good guy, but he's not the maniac some people consider him to be. In fact, the only person he injures who wasn't mean to him first is the female cop near the end. Qanon - A sub-segment of the MAGA cult who believe the most outrageous bullshit posted by someone who calls themselves "Q", no matter how many times he's been proven wrong. If Q posted that Donald Trump was going to start flying by farting rainbows, they'd believe it, just like they believe every bit of bullshit that their cult leader spews, no matter how many times HE has been proven wrong. Which perfectly illustrates to the world that America has a huge, ongoing mental health crisis. :(
@AldrickExGladius
@AldrickExGladius 8 ай бұрын
yall are giving Fight Club too much credit I think
@rossiaconis242
@rossiaconis242 8 ай бұрын
The Sound of Freedom take is way off. I don't blame Jemma, she's a good presenter, but maybe talk to Jack Pooley about his blatant anti-religious bias? It comes through really loud on lists that he writes.
@Zett76
@Zett76 8 ай бұрын
What‘s wrong with being anti-religious?
@FS-qk5uq
@FS-qk5uq 8 ай бұрын
It's not way off. Everything that was said is correct and that movie was pure propaganda and has been proven to be a bunch of lies. And the only reason it did so well was because conservative churches bought loads of tickets and basically guilty their parishioners to go watch it. Ya know cause it's propaganda that they wanted to push on the gullible. Maybe YOU should address your own biases instead being a little whiney b!tch when ever you're presented with reality that conflict with your views.
@filmsociety1311
@filmsociety1311 8 ай бұрын
This list was uploaded a few days ago I'm sure
@Bassquake76
@Bassquake76 8 ай бұрын
Probably had a copyright strike or an error.
@Sunprism
@Sunprism 8 ай бұрын
I'm automatically on guard whenever someone mentions that they love Fight Club
@Zett76
@Zett76 8 ай бұрын
I LOVE Fight Club. …elaborate. ;)
@carloa877
@carloa877 8 ай бұрын
Wouldn't call Joker and the Sound of Freedom enjoyed for the wrong reasons since the films perfectly communicated it's message to it's intended audience.
@S4BRETOOTH
@S4BRETOOTH 8 ай бұрын
Does the person who wrote the script for this video even communicate with other humans besides the ones from their imagination? I've never heard or read any person claiming to have any of those points of view about any of those movies.
@startingQB
@startingQB 8 ай бұрын
Glad someone else said it.
@MrMackingit
@MrMackingit 8 ай бұрын
That host gem is pretty hot
@bubbathedm
@bubbathedm 8 ай бұрын
D-Fens did nothing wrong
@VicGeorge2K6
@VicGeorge2K6 8 ай бұрын
The retiring police officer who stopped him would beg to differ
@integral
@integral 8 ай бұрын
You sound terribly MAGA 😂
@gerarduspoppel2831
@gerarduspoppel2831 8 ай бұрын
He was wrong. But i can understand him.
@InfraRedNeck
@InfraRedNeck 8 ай бұрын
Anyone have the down-votes count?
@whatculture
@whatculture 8 ай бұрын
It's pretty high 😬🤦‍♂
@veryverylongusername
@veryverylongusername 8 ай бұрын
@@whatculture the qanon cult is quite loud
@schubajo
@schubajo 8 ай бұрын
​@@whatcultureYou ruffled some incel and QAnon feathers, apparently.
@weredwarf6187
@weredwarf6187 8 ай бұрын
515 so far.
@user-iu5po6up6m
@user-iu5po6up6m 8 ай бұрын
The narrative for the last entry is pure spin. Quit regurgitating partisan narratives. Pretty sure people came here for movie analysis, not propaganda.
@richardjamesgallardojr.7584
@richardjamesgallardojr.7584 8 ай бұрын
Natural Born Killers is such a stupid movie. I don't see why anyone likes it.
@jsmith3946
@jsmith3946 8 ай бұрын
that movie wasn't even on the list
@thefuturist8864
@thefuturist8864 8 ай бұрын
I remember watching it back when it first came out. MTV was relatively new, as was 24-hour news, and the idea that the latter would use a cross-country killing spree in order to generate viewing figures, and that said spree would be both presented in MTV-esque fashion and be interspersed with ads and other shows was not at all inconceivable. Perhaps you don't like it, and that's fine, but to say it's a 'stupid movie', but any movie will always be filtered through the intelligence of the viewer.
@TheSamLowry
@TheSamLowry 8 ай бұрын
Americans love serial killers, and the movie mocks that adoration while pretending to celebrate them.
@torinju
@torinju 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, the idea that someone would commit crimes in order to get views. THAT never happens.
@DukeWeIIington
@DukeWeIIington 8 ай бұрын
This list highlights how divided the culture has become.
@mikes2622
@mikes2622 8 ай бұрын
Tyler Durden didn't die. There are 2 graphic novel sequels. People in jail definitely love Low Abiding Citizen.
@AlejandroVarasHinojosa
@AlejandroVarasHinojosa 8 ай бұрын
Fight Club is one of my favorite movies of all time but I admit it's the male version of Eat, Pray, Love 😅
@michaelaugust4313
@michaelaugust4313 8 ай бұрын
They are way off when it comes to sound of freedom.
@jasonpeacock9735
@jasonpeacock9735 8 ай бұрын
Did the movie show the protagonist as a manipulative groomer? Or did it show him as the hero he likes to portray himself as?
@zimmothyd1266
@zimmothyd1266 8 ай бұрын
What's it about? Didn't really make waves where I'm at.
@Vixen522
@Vixen522 8 ай бұрын
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@TimTE01
@TimTE01 8 ай бұрын
Prove it.
@integral
@integral 8 ай бұрын
The MAGA trolls defending the Sound of Freedom have nothing to offer but "nuh-uh, you suck." Not a single bit of evidence, Because you have none of course.
@carastone3473
@carastone3473 8 ай бұрын
How do you know why these movies are popular though? I'm curious....are you just reading the minds of everyone who's seen it, or did go around and ask everyone who's seen it if they liked it and why?
@zimmothyd1266
@zimmothyd1266 8 ай бұрын
Do you think this is some kind of "Got Ya!!" Statment/Question?
@koseorhun
@koseorhun 8 ай бұрын
Are you serious? Which one do you think isn't popular and have misdirected followers?
@carastone3473
@carastone3473 8 ай бұрын
@@zimmothyd1266 - LOL! Everyone is so defensive. It was a legitimate question.
@integral
@integral 8 ай бұрын
@@carastone3473 The question makes it appear you think the persons putting this video together didn't do their due diligence. So all you're doing is making yourself appear something other than thoughtful.
@JacyTeh
@JacyTeh 8 ай бұрын
Look what you are writing. You are not asking a question - the way you frame your question is antagonistic and accusatory. @@carastone3473
@bub777
@bub777 8 ай бұрын
What Culture, i never thought I'd see the day you'd act very political about movies.
@zimmothyd1266
@zimmothyd1266 8 ай бұрын
Wouldn't say very but I did notice it in this vid.
@alexguillen9598
@alexguillen9598 8 ай бұрын
Especially with sound of freedom. Definitely selling the propaganda on the wrong side of what the film was actually about
@TimTE01
@TimTE01 8 ай бұрын
@@alexguillen9598 They were 100% right though.
@alexguillen9598
@alexguillen9598 8 ай бұрын
@@TimTE01 how was sound of freedom QAnon conspiracy?
@JUnit41484
@JUnit41484 8 ай бұрын
I love when people out themselves as crazy by getting upset that somebody else called crazy people crazy. Political doesn't actually mean "when somebody says anything you don't like."
@AwkwardLoser
@AwkwardLoser 8 ай бұрын
IDKH Falling Down is mocked while Gran Torino isn’t they’re the same movie just with a few years in age difference.
@PrinceIsot
@PrinceIsot 8 ай бұрын
Falling Down seems ridiculous until you walk through Chicago, LA, San Francisco, New York, St Louis..... pretty much any liberal hell hole 😂 don't step on needles kids
@integral
@integral 8 ай бұрын
Gotta love it when a person who has never been to San Francisco whines about how awful it is. So yeah, you're right, it's horrible here. Please stay away for your own safety. (meanwhile those of us who live here will continue to love it) 😂
@chrisbuek
@chrisbuek 8 ай бұрын
I'm guessing you live nowhere near a city and never ever visit them.
@torinju
@torinju 8 ай бұрын
Yes, when you come to New York City, you are assigned a designated mugger. Best you stay away.
@Veritas.0
@Veritas.0 8 ай бұрын
@@integral "Gotta love it when a person who has never been to San Francisco whines about how awful it is." Gotta love it when someone from San Francisco never mentions the sheer amount of human excrement there is on the sidewalks in downtown. It only went away when you piles of shit rolled out the red carpet for Xi the Pooh, and shooed all the homeless away for the visit. You are garbage, you live in filth, and your policies are NIMBY bullshit. Or maybe humanshit? You going to tell me _I'VE_ never been there? Seen it with my own eyes, and it's quite literally (real use of the word) a shithole.
@startingQB
@startingQB 8 ай бұрын
They aren't 100% wrong about SOF. The US far right has propelled movie. I don't know if it was marketed to them. But apparently you have a lot of them subscribed to your channel.
@TheBaggyT
@TheBaggyT 8 ай бұрын
Funny how "far right" nowadays just means "not as left as a Democrat". Wind back the clocks even just a decade, and it's obvious that both parties have shifted left. The Democrats were already left, and now they are far-left, but no one is willing to admit that. To call a movie that portrays child sex trafficking as evil as "far right" is pretty disturbing... should it be allowed? I hope no one ever thinks children should be abused, let alone in that way. (Yet it's obvious that those people on the receiving end of the child sex slaves clearly think it should be acceptable... and many of them are in government!)
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