10 Reasons Why Tourists Keep Getting FINED in the Paris Metro
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20 күн бұрын10 ways to avoid being fined in the Paris Metro
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@yadusolparterre 11 күн бұрын
As a Frenchman I am APPALLED at how user-unfriendly our system is. In Japan or China, if you get lost on the subway and ride too far, all you have to do is to add some money on your ticket before leaving the station. In France, taking the wrong train will cost you 25 euros and three minutes of berating by a rude officer like you are a vulgar criminal. Hell, I've seen them give tickets to tourists for WALKING the wrong way !
@nox8730 7 күн бұрын
In Japan, you wouldn't get fined (maybe) for walking the wrong way, or using the wrong line in an escalator, but what you would get... would possibly be worse. Especially if you do understand japanese.
@latebloomerabroad 18 күн бұрын
Another reason not to throw your ticket away as soon as you get into the train area is that at many stops, you need that ticket to get out at the destination! I keep my ticket until I arrive at my destination, then throw it in the first available trash can so that I can't get confused later.
@mplsmike4023 18 күн бұрын
Or just fold it once you’ve exited, if there isn’t a trash can handy. Folded ticket -> no value.
@LesFrenchiesTravel 16 күн бұрын
good point!
@dieseldragon6756 13 күн бұрын
I like to keep my tickets for the scrapbook, but make them distinct by putting them mag-stripe out in my tobacco pouch. This means they're kept away from unused ones (Which live in the wallet) and can be identified as used by the validation stamps on the reverse. 👍
@AlphineWolf 12 күн бұрын
France version just needs to be less complicated. Would it kill them to install exit ticket machines? Like yeah I accidentally bought the wrong zone for the length i travel. On exit, I buy a compass exit ticket as an addon fare because I went from zone 1 to 3 here in Vancouver. French just likes to nickel and dime travellers
@lightandscience 12 күн бұрын
😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
@tatianaschoenfield9819 12 күн бұрын
The system is bureaucratically complicated and overwhelming. It sets tourists up to make mistakes.
@user-bz1cl5uq1b 5 күн бұрын
Don't travel to Europe..I'm European and I beg people not to visit Europe..I'm in Uzbekistan and a metro ticket costs 0.17€ . Yes you read well
@Pidalin 2 күн бұрын
Exactly, this is madness, especially those stupid gates everywhere. In Central Europe, most of countries have honest system where you have just random checks, no annoying gates everywhere. These gate systems cost more then you earn on tickets, it makes no sense, public transportation is heavily donated everywhere and investing that much money to gates and ticket infrastructure is pointless. Our German/Czech/Austrian/Polish....honest systems are the best for easy using of public transportation.
@rainyoctober4683 Күн бұрын
@@Pidalin wait until your government imports more diversity and honest system goes away. Paris put those up out of necessity
@rainyoctober4683 Күн бұрын
@@user-bz1cl5uq1b lol, Uzbekistan is not exactly France, I wouldn't go there if I got paid money to ride the metro
@user-bz1cl5uq1b Күн бұрын
@@rainyoctober4683 its a very safe place I'm sure you don't know much about places. Just because it ends with I Stan you seem to be scared or not attracted. Did you ever hear of Samarkand, the silk road, Bukhara? Very civilised , very clean, very low crime.
@medschoolresources2222 18 күн бұрын
Save yourself the hassle and get the reloadable Navigo card with the photo and put the weekly unlimited plan. It covers all the zones (even the airports, Versailles and Disney). Even if you don't use the full value (EUR 30-35), it's great insurance against getting a fine. On my last trip, there was a lot of metro police at a particular stop. Everyone with tickets got pulled over to get checked while I just flashed my Navigo card and they allowed me to proceed. It's definitely worth the money. Just walk with a passport photo to put on it.
@Grazilla52 18 күн бұрын
Thanks, that’s very helpful!
@heathermichael3987 18 күн бұрын
Yes that is very helpful. Now I’m not as scared .
@boli4203 18 күн бұрын
And the price is certainly less than most of the fines. Good advice.
@pamelawing5747 18 күн бұрын
Actually it's smaller than the passport photo. I reduced mine on my copier and make three copies to take with me. We got to Gare de Nord, went downstairs and immediately got the passes on our arrival in the city. A very nice man at the window did it all for my friend and I.
@user-zr1ry3gm2i 18 күн бұрын
I got one last week when in Paris, it worked once, thereafter not at all waste of money in my case!!
@JerryWoo96 13 күн бұрын
Why can't the user interface be like 1) Are you a local or foreigner/tourist 2) select a destination 3) select ticket type and quantity 4) pay the amount
@MrTayZ3rVideo 12 күн бұрын
Because it's french. Even for french tourist from countryside, buying those tickets is a pain in the ass.
@ubermenschen3636 12 күн бұрын
Why? Because fines are profitable. It’s so profitable that the train operator has no incentive to simplify the system like using one universal ticket card that can be upgraded with an App that download money.
@adrianguggisberg3656 12 күн бұрын
Bullshit. I'm Swiss and I find it very simple and logical how to buy Paris Metro tickets. They work by zones, like almost every public transport ticket in almost every European city, it isn't rocket science. The Metro isn't a tourist attraction, it's for the people who live there. As a tourist you need to take the time to inform yourself how things work.
@hoppingrabbit9849 12 күн бұрын
@@adrianguggisberg3656😂😂😂😂 tourists pay paris’s bills tho so…
@adrianguggisberg3656 12 күн бұрын
@@hoppingrabbit9849 Paris is the greatest industrial hub in Europe and among the top 10 in the world. Tourism is paying bills in Paris, but it's only one of many contributors, even tho it is the most visited place on earth.
@patxooo6974 18 күн бұрын
I’m Parisian. Never have I ever heard about getting fined for putting your feet on a seat. But I guess yes that is an unspoken rule (that is an overt one as you demonstrated). Nobody does that, in case someone comes and takes a seat. I’m guessing this is also a thing because in the Metro, you car could be empty, and in the next station there comes in a wave of people and you find yourself “serrés comme des sardines”, and therefore seats have to be used by those who need them. Great video!!!
@LesFrenchiesTravel 18 күн бұрын
Than you!!
@anirbanmookherjee938 18 күн бұрын
I have seen it happen a couple of times in the metro during off hours and regularly on the RER. On the RER its aweful as they pretend (or actually) sleeping and there is a huge number of people standing.
@joanne_ft 18 күн бұрын
Why would people be so rude as to put their dirty feet onto a seat where other people will sit?!
@VivianRents 18 күн бұрын
Sadly that happened to me when I went to Paris. But I didn’t put the whole foot in the chair because is ridiculous, y just crossed my legs and support the end of the shoe at another chair, lesson learned, even though the name of the fine is “detriment or damage to property”, they check if the state of the chair and if it’s okay is a 60 euro fine… but if the chair is damaged is a 150 euro fine. A different souvenir from Paris, definitely
@l.c.6282 18 күн бұрын
I see it all the time in Toronto. Mostly from young women. And they also put their bags on the seat next to them. Or they go on without paying - the last one is on the streetcar ( tramway).
@doublasm2 18 күн бұрын
I recommend everyone to get informed about tickets being demagnetised when close to a mobile phone. This will make you waste loads of time trying to access, or trying to exchange them for working ones at the ticket offices (long queues), etc. It happens much too easily and you waste several tickets until you realise what's happening. No one tells you.
@Former_Texan 12 күн бұрын
Magsafe has caused me so many headaches...
@Pidalin 2 күн бұрын
These e-tickets are absolute nonsense, I hate it, you don't even see what is loaded in that stupid ticket, you can have more of them in your pocket and you don't know which one is active, completely stupid system. When I look for example to Warsaw, I see that even when you want gates, you can make it that it can read normal paper tickets, it works, so I don't understand why so many cities are switching to those stupid e-tickets. Also, idea of loading them again is nice in theory, but in practice, nobody does that, local people have their year pass and tourists just throw it away after one use and that partly plastic card with chip inside is definitely worse for nature then simple paper tickets. These systems are pointless. Here in Czechia, we already buy tickets in phone apps, but you can't do that with your stupid gates. 😀
@petercomfort9651 12 күн бұрын
Quite frankly if it is a rare occurrence it is the tourists fault. If it is a common occurrence then it is the systems fault and should be fixed rather than fining people for booking on zone 5 and confusing it with line 5 for example. Something like "not signing your pass" could be fixed quite easily by printing the passes with peoples name on it.
@aquilegus 10 күн бұрын
Personally, I've never heard of anyone making 'Zone 5, Line 5' type of mistake.
@nox8730 7 күн бұрын
@@aquilegus Yeah, it is like buying 5 carrots instead of 5 tomatoes.
@brentsummers7377 5 күн бұрын
Or by having plastic cards with no names or photos as they do in Sydney, Brisbane, London, etc.
@willx9352 18 күн бұрын
This ticketing system is ridiculously complicated for these days.
@testman9541 17 күн бұрын
There is a reason : underlying complexity and cost. Īle de France transportation system is a conglomerate of multiple transport company some state owned some provate. Having a single T+ ticket set up id quite a miracle 🎉
@dianafromaustralia3244 16 күн бұрын
No! We’ve been going to Paris for over 30 years - METRO tickets are easy! 10 tickets = 10 journeys!
@willx9352 15 күн бұрын
@@dianafromaustralia3244 But the tickets come with all sorts of caveats as does the Navigo. These tickets cannot be used without restriction on the RER. If you get it wrong, you can be fined. Furthermore, you actually have to purchase a ticket or a pass in the first place. Many other cities allow you to use a contactless credit card.
@elmwalt162 12 күн бұрын
I have been there several times with school classes ... no problem Maybe us americans just dont understand rules apply to them as well
@willx9352 12 күн бұрын
@@elmwalt162 I am not American and have travelled extensively using public transport in many European countries over many years. Many cities these days either have a single transport card covering all lublic tramsport where you just tap on and off and the fare is automatically calculated and/or the ability to do this with a credit card. You do not heed to prepurchase tickets, you don’t have to worry about whether it is a bus, tram, metro or regional rail or even worry about having the correct fare in advance. It seems that Paris is still stuck in the past in some respects when it comes to ticketing.
@stiglet_mcg 18 күн бұрын
We found a number of gates were open that were tempting to go through as it was easy, very glad we didn't now! Thank you
@LesFrenchiesTravel 16 күн бұрын
Glad I could help!
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@JustAGrl007 18 күн бұрын
Thank you all for making these videos! One of your videos helped me ride the metro when I was there in December. I found it fairly easy to navigate even easier than New York. And the €60 fine for putting your feet on the seat makes sense because I noticed that Paris subways are a lot cleaner than New York too.
@WendyH10 18 күн бұрын
Thank you for all the videos. I’ve been watching them for months. We are currently in Paris having a blast!
@jeffreykorn5142 18 күн бұрын
We just finished a 5 day stay in Paris and your videos are great .. made the trip much less stressful and offers super advice. We also always purchase weekly unlimited transit passes no matter our original plans .. especially in complicated systems like Paris, Prague and Budapest. Have seen countless Transit Police interactions with tourists trying to explain why they didn't have the proper fare .. and the cost of the fine always exceeds the weekly unlimited cost. It also allows you total flexibility when your plans change and you are covered no matter what. On our trip to Versailles on the RER two young 20 years old girls were sitting with their feet up on the seats .. this caught the eye of a controller at the end of the car and he approached them and... yep, you guessed it .. they had the wrong ticket. I saw this coming and had our Navajo passes out and the controllers partner glanced at them and smiled. To the controllers credit, the girls were polite, embarrassed but totally lost ...and he allowed them to get off at the next stop and correct their error .. with a reminder to not put your feet on the seats! Your guides to Paris are a must have to really enjoy all the city has to offer Thank You
@RD-tu7tp 18 күн бұрын
I'm a french fan of the Paris transport system, and I honestly still find the ticket system so confusing. It should really get simplified !
@LesFrenchiesTravel 18 күн бұрын
that's the truth but I'm not very optimistic
@n0rmal953 18 күн бұрын
I’m parisian and still got my rer destination wrong the other day. Swiped my easy pass and forgot that my exit was outside of zone 1. When you have the annual navigo pass you don’t tend to think much, So… when you don’t have it anymore, it’s a struggle.
@RD-tu7tp 18 күн бұрын
@@LesFrenchiesTravel I have a hope that with the Grand Paris Express metro project they change the ticketing options and make it easier to nvigate the region
@Lodai974 18 күн бұрын
@@RD-tu7tp Unlikely... I think that the metro 15-16-17-18 which are only in the suburbs will have the same fare specifications as the RER and Transilien trains. Line 14 will even have a special price for its opening at Orly airport.
@user-zr1ry3gm2i 18 күн бұрын
Absolutely. I found the metro as a whole very confusing and unclear. It does not compare favourably with the Barcelona metro, which is really easy to to get to grips with.
@thomascuvillier7250 18 күн бұрын
Even people from Paris forget about RER zoning sometimes, especially when the station is really close to Paris. Stade de France RER exit is gonna be fun during the Olympics xD xD
@Obeox 12 күн бұрын
No they don’t, bcuz they have a personal navigo card with all 5 zones included.
@RaptorFromWeegee 12 күн бұрын
No, see, I think its probably NOT going to be "fun" at all.
@olgameyel7753 11 күн бұрын
@@Obeox corret! Even tourists can by one, we visit Paris last year and get one in airport for 5eur plus 30eur for 6 or 7 days i think, and we use it every day in all zones multiple times, this is the best chois for everyone!! Just note, you need to have a small foto, like IDsize foto to place on travel card
@MrBaymeric 7 күн бұрын
There are international events such as football, rugby world cup happening in stade de France since 20 years...
@Pidalin 2 күн бұрын
It's really a weird system you have in Paris, in Prague, all tickets are valid for whole city (4 zones), so you don't have to care about some zones inside of city, that's important only for commuters who live on edge of the city and commut out of the city or vice versa, they can buy cheaper pass becuase of more zones, but all basic tickets are for 4 zones, so if you buy random time ticket for 30 or 90 minutes, you don't have to care about that. And when you are leaving the city, you recognize it easily - in train, stations don't have Prague in front of local station name and only buses 300+ go out of the city and you have to go around driver in them, which should stop you from going there accidentaly. But our zone system is also mess, there are I think 13 zones around Prague, but for trains, you still can buy oldschool ticket from place A to B, but it can be more expensive.
@kaelakeluskar 13 күн бұрын
That last one is how I got fined. Bought a ticket for the RER thinking it's valid to gob all the way to Versailles. When I asked why my ticket wasn't opening the gate, they told me why and charged me a €40 fine (this was back in 2010). I was livid!
@groundnoiseindustrie 12 күн бұрын
Just a money maker to pay for all the socialist who don’t work. I thank the French for helping us Yanks in our revolution. We should have helped them more during theirs. We saved the French in WWI & WWII (along with the rest of the Allied soldiers. We are even.
@JamesKanze 18 күн бұрын
With regards to making sure that you show the right ticket when controlled: when I lived in Paris, I used to keep my unused tickets in my right jacket pocket, and the used ones in the left. When I was controlled, I'd pull out a wad of used tickets, sometimes as many as 15 or 20, and tell the controller that is must be one of these. They'd always laugh a bit, and help me find the right one. I've always found the controllers to be remarkably friendly and helpful. But it might not be the same if you don't speak French.
@honeypath 16 күн бұрын
No, it's not as now they get to keep part of the fine. I did not know about having to show it at the end, and had a receipt, but was quickly surrounded, asked for my ID and a fine was demanded. It was traumatic.
@ianchmp 15 күн бұрын
Our first time in Paris we did the same. The attendants were not sympathetic, We were fined.
@fuglbird 12 күн бұрын
It is the same. I speak very, very little French and the controllers have always been very nice to me.
@hippiemuslim 5 күн бұрын
@@honeypath What will they do If you just won't pay, call the police, write you a ticket then call the INTERPOL to enforce it?
@Nigellagirl99 18 күн бұрын
Bonjour ❤ Thank you for all your amazing and enjoyable videos - you two are inspiring 🎉
@LesFrenchiesTravel 18 күн бұрын
Thank you! 😃
@katrinaassoumou1531 18 күн бұрын
Great tips. Thank you so much. Amen
@sylviege7534 18 күн бұрын
Great video, thank you !👍❤
@q_branch_ 18 күн бұрын
I think the Swiss have the simplest app that I’ve used in Europe. Type you destination and you get options for departures, pick the departure, pick the ticket fare, and you’re done. The ticket is automatically validated - usually it is valid for 24 hours to the destination because things happen.
@sylviege7534 18 күн бұрын
I don't know about this app, but when you buy a ticket for the streetcar in Geneva, it's complicated. I am always helping people. I guess it's the same in any big city !
@jakob7116 18 күн бұрын
Where I live you buy a ticket for the entire county and there are no zones so it’s valid everywhere but only for 90 minutes.
@dieseldragon6756 13 күн бұрын
Validation systems often confuse us British because (Oyster aside) we don't normally have to validate anything before travelling on it - It's usually valid for travel from point of issue, or the date printed on it (Whichever's later). I still remember my first time using _Un Obliterateur_ on a Parisian bus in 1996. That was something many in this country will never experience today... 🙃
@dieseldragon6756 13 күн бұрын
@@jakob7116 France would never use that system unless the ticket prices were raised to match. Do you know _just _*_how_*_ far_ a TGV can travel in 90 minutes? 🚄🇫🇷💨💨💨💯❤🔥👍 (Certainly a lot further than British trains can manage. 🚈🇬🇧🐌 And in the U.S. such tickets would need to be valid for 90 _days,_ not minutes... 🐌💨🚂🇺🇸😉)
@Pidalin 2 күн бұрын
We use app here in Czechia too, but it's not that simple, not all regions with their integrated systems have good app + some places are not integrated at all, so you have to buy oldschool train tickets (but you can use app too). But in Prague and surroundings (which is already like half of the country, because PID system is constantly growing), it's super simple, app will show you what ticket you need, or you can select other ticket that you want and validate it later or now as you need. The best tourist ticket is full PID ticket for all zones for 24 hours, as I already said, PID system (Prague integrated transporation) already covers almost half of the country and all zone 24 hours ticket is for like 10 eur, which is a really good price for unlimited traveling in buses, trains + whole Prague ofcourse. A lot of people don't know about this ticket, or they are lazy to find informations and then buy classic train tickets and pay several times more than they have to. BTW, in PID app, it's always better to buy tickets when you are at home and then just validate them later, that prevents some problem with paying outside, it can happen that google pay has a siesta for now or something. 😀 I am really glad that they didn't install some stupid gates here like it was trend like 10-20 years ago (and they were really talking about it in Prague) because our today apps would not work with that, maybe it could work somehow with NFC chip in your phone or maybe not......
@smiley800 14 күн бұрын
Awesome!!!! Thank you so much for taking the time and making this video!!!
@LesFrenchiesTravel 13 күн бұрын
You are so welcome!
@waynemansfield1527 14 күн бұрын
the Paris ticketing system seems to be insanely complicated, here in Sydney Australia, there are no tickets people "tap on" with a credit card or with an adult transport NSW Opal card or concession card for seniors, disabled or children and "tap off" at the destination. No queuing for tickets etc, and the Opal system works seamlessly for Buses, Trams, Metro rail, Heavy rail and Ferries,
@futurecanadian 13 күн бұрын
and as long as you're using the same credit card, the total daily fare will max out. I did get on a train from Sydney to Kiama (for that blow hole) and the ticket guy was checking tickets. I told him I did a tap on so he scanned by credit card and said have a nice day.
@JBoy340a 18 күн бұрын
Thanks for info. We found the Paris metro very useful and one of the best subway systems around.
@Sharad20072008 18 күн бұрын
I am glad you did because for me the experience with the Paris Metro was never positive. Comparisons are odious but in contrast to London's Tube, the Parisian Metro seemed like a cavernous warren of multiple entrances/exits, innumerable turnstiles, poor directions, non-functioning toilets and unrecognizable street level signs
@JBoy340a 18 күн бұрын
@@Sharad20072008 I like the London Underground also.
@AlphineWolf 12 күн бұрын
Um not really. They don't have exit ticket machines installed in case people buy the wrong zone worth of fare.
@MrBaymeric 7 күн бұрын
Because your ticket only for Paris metro won't work in rer
@brentsummers7377 5 күн бұрын
The Metro trains & frequency are excellent. But the ticket systems....
@vladimirbellevueinnovation4835 18 күн бұрын
This is good. Thank you for all the tips
@warrenwolf4690 18 күн бұрын
Bonjour Antoine and Colleen. Great info. 😃
@iamhandy-man 18 күн бұрын
We almost got fined when my wife and I both shoved through the turnstiles on her one ticket, because mine stopped working. The métro cops made me get my paper ticket fixed at the booth. I only later realized I'd been wiping the magnetic strip by keeping it in my magnetic-clasp wallet. Oops!
@LesFrenchiesTravel 18 күн бұрын
yes they do de-magnetize all the time!!
@iamhandy-man 18 күн бұрын
@@LesFrenchiesTravel I didn't put 2 and 2 together until after I'd wiped a second ticket and had to get it replaced. I no longer use that wallet!
@cavgrey8 18 күн бұрын
@@LesFrenchiesTravelHow are Controllers identified? Badge? Clothing?
@VivianRents 18 күн бұрын
@@cavgrey8clothing, they have a vest and identification
@Teri_Berk 18 күн бұрын
@@cavgrey8 Hello from Turkey. I traveled in and around Paris for about 16 days using the navigo découverte. During that period only once did I come across Controllers while I was changing the metro lines (M6 to M13) They wore dark blue uniforms as far as I can remember but I identified them not by their looks but by their saying "here you won't be using the turnstyles, you will swipe your card over here" They were holding portable ticket reading devices in their hands.
@davetdowell 12 күн бұрын
Nice video, thank you for investing the time to make it.
@sharonfrede6791 15 күн бұрын
I was told that as a foreign senior citizen I could not buy a senior ticket. Why is that? Last year we rode the 94 bus quite a lot. At least four times the ticket checkers boarded our bus checking everyone’s ticket. Once I had given my ticket to my friend to scan for me. She had her own ticket. Before she could get it back to me they boarded the bus. I was trying to explain to a lady that my friend had my ticket. She didn’t speak English and I didn’t speak French. Luckily, one of them did speak English. Whew. It was all good when she showed him two tickets.
@LesFrenchiesTravel 15 күн бұрын
It can be very stressful. The reason the tickets are just available for locals is that they are supplemented by taxes (paid by locals)
@leematthews6812 15 күн бұрын
Very useful, thanks. I'll try and remember to re-watch this before my next trip to Paris, whenever that is...
@LesFrenchiesTravel 15 күн бұрын
It's important to know.
@CKLee-rs4kl 18 күн бұрын
I've had my ticket requested when leaving the metro and these checks used to be (?) quite common so don't discard your validated ticket until you leave the metro (I keep the validated ticket in a separate pocket).
@lavieenfrance5175 17 күн бұрын
When my ticket doesnt work i go to the nearest information booth to check first..to make sure❤
@tassilokarge1281 13 күн бұрын
Which is closed for many stations…
@TheReverseRetirementFamily 14 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing! Lots of great tips. Sure to save us some cash on potential fees!
@walkwithwan 18 күн бұрын
Great video
@LesFrenchiesTravel 16 күн бұрын
thank you
@CB-gc1me 12 күн бұрын
Recently visited Versailles from central Paris and watched DOZENS of people get fined as the RER pulled into the station. Honestly the whole thing felt so scammy and mean-spirited. The control agents were borderline gleeful about fining all the clueless tourists. They make commission on fines, right? That route must be the golden goose. The ticketing system in Paris is so so so so unnecessarily complicated and feels deliberately set up to confuse and then fine tourists. I live in London and TFL do such a better job creating a simple, customer-friendly system. Thanks for making these videos
@stephengraham1153 11 күн бұрын
"TFL do such a better job creating a simple, customer-friendly system" I like the fact that I can use contactless Visa cards on TfL routes. It means that I don't have to queue at ticket machines at rush hour or worry about paying the correct fare for the zone I'm travelling to.
@nox8730 7 күн бұрын
Yes, they have a commission on fines. But it is negligible. And it is not "per controller". But "per group of controllers".
@richardlo4867 5 күн бұрын
Interesting. Over 20 years ago we took the (RER?) train from Paris to Versailles and return. Just recalled a smooth, not too crowded journey - don't even remember anyone checking tickers. Definitely no fines.
@77ladentelliere 10 күн бұрын
Thank you for this video that is useful even for parisians ! One precision : you speak about RER and metro tickets and give for example the station "Versailles" . There is something more subtle : In station "La Défense" and "Issy val de Seine" (may be others ?) if you come with the metro you are in zone 1, but if you come with the RER you are in zone 2 and the fee is not the same ! I personaly had the problem in "Issy val de Seine" a few years ago and was lucky enough to talk to an understanding controller who didn’t fine me...
@Grazilla52 18 күн бұрын
This video is certainly an eye-opener: you’ve made me appreciate my NYC transit system a bit more, if only for the ease of payment! I’ll be reviewing all of your Metro-related videos before visiting later this year & hopefully I’ll stay out of trouble. Merci Colleen et Antoine for another very helpful video!
@LesFrenchiesTravel 16 күн бұрын
You're welcome!!
@shennabay9111 18 күн бұрын
The only thing that happened to me the turnstile in LES COURTILLES STATION doesn’t print the validation at the back of paper ticket. And I bought the t plus 10 pcs ticket ! Your info helps me a lot going around Paris !! Thanks guys !!
@monichat 18 күн бұрын
My husband threw away his ticked, got caught and was fined. He was quite angry. Also, first time we traveled to Paris, we got in a car that was less crowded than the others. Turned out it was ''first class'' car. Someone warned us and we didn't get caught. I wonder if there are still ''first class' 'cars in Paris metro, like on airplanes. In the country of Égalité, Fraternité, Liberté 😘
@thierrydesu 18 күн бұрын
No more classes on the subway since August 1st 1991.
@Lodai974 18 күн бұрын
@@thierrydesu and 1999 in the RER/Transilien
@monichat 18 күн бұрын
@@thierrydesu Merci pour cette information
@monichat 18 күн бұрын
@@Lodai974 Merci beaucoup
@jaydebard 18 күн бұрын
We were very satisfied with the Navigo Decouverte weekly pass. We didn't want to worry about reloading tickets and it seemed the best option for us. We took the RoissyBus from the airport and used the metro so much it paid for itself within a couple days. We also like it because it's valid for 10 years and we plan to be back in a few more years and just have to load the weekly pass on it next time!
@LesFrenchiesTravel 16 күн бұрын
that's the way to do it
@GarthLurvey 16 күн бұрын
We got fined last year for not validating a couple tickets. We sent them through a few times but the machine was broken. The doors were open so we went through thinking that we were good to go. The metro cop didn't believe us but we were fined 35 Euros each. They were nice but still were very firm with us. She ultimately gave us a ticket to get to our destination. We made no attempt to flee. They caught us because we were standing in front of the map on the wall trying to figure out our route. Travel and learn.
@LesFrenchiesTravel 15 күн бұрын
Sorry!
@kristigulley4048 15 күн бұрын
You listened to my suggestion! Wish you had done this video before my trip so we didn’t get that 65€ fine but live and learn! Glad others can avoid it! ❤
@jtstacey83 18 күн бұрын
We always buy the Paris Visite travel pass for our stay. Granted, we could buy it cheaper, but sometimes, just hopping on the RER and not having to worry about buying another ticket is worth it because we decided to go to Disney. It's about 75 euros now. I always like to warn people about going to Père Lachaise Cemetery. It's cool, but the area is definitely rough. Crazy story. We enjoy how quiet the Metro Cars are. My wife and I are heading to the Paris Opera House, and a guy somehow overhears me whispering to my wife about what stop we need to get off at. He loudly proclaims Americans, I love America and starts loudly talking to us about how, in the '80s and '90s, he worked with various rock bands in Miami, New York, and LA. By this time, everyone is staring at us, and we were trying to be polite to the gentleman, but all I could think is these Parisians are probably thinking, "Damn Loud Ass Americans."
@joanreynolds955 18 күн бұрын
Last summer my partner, Andy, and I were on the train to Versailles. Andy, despite his efforts, ended up buying us the wrong tickets. He ended up have to pay a fine. The woman sitting across the row from us was a tour guide at Versailles. She said what a scam it was and the same happened to tourists all the time. You can’t be careful enough.
@nox8730 7 күн бұрын
Feels like the tour guide was pretty entitled. Was she french? It may be unpractical for some, but there is weight behind calling such a thing a scam. That is what rude people are like. Did she never take public transportations? Makes no sense. It makes even less sense since the transportation service went out of his way to translate all the shebang in several languages to make sure foreigners had the all the same informations as us (10 languages it seems). While the system may be convoluted at times, it is the same system for everyone.
@jivprod9871 18 күн бұрын
Je suis parisien mais j'ai regardé ca comme si j'étais tokyoïte ! Je vous adore !
@LesFrenchiesTravel 18 күн бұрын
Dōmo arigatōgozaimasu
@jivprod9871 18 күн бұрын
@@LesFrenchiesTravel 🤣🤣🤣
@Blueulla 18 күн бұрын
Hey Frenchies 😊 Thank You so much for tips and tricks - we have learned so much from you 🙏 we are going to Paris in two weeks. 🤗 we have a question. Do you know where we can buy the book The little Prince in the original language? Thank you so much. We look forward to follow you 🤗Niels and Ulla.❤
@verynormalman 13 күн бұрын
Good advice.
@firesurfer 12 күн бұрын
Thankfully only if you jump the turnstile in NY do you get stopped sometimes. Once you are in, that's it. You can go anywhere in the system. Lots of people try the 24 hour race. 462 stations in 24 hours.
@kylecampion9668 13 күн бұрын
It’d be great if the paper tickets worked… we bought a dozen or so, kept them in a pocket away from credit cards and cell phones, and I think maybe 4 of them actually validated properly. Thankfully the info centers were helpful in replacing them but even those ones often failed had to repeat the process again. No one ever gave us any issue about them not being signed or having our names on them tho! Definitely did not know that until this video!
@mannyreyes9602 18 күн бұрын
I must admit that I've never written my name on the Paris Visite ticket. The Metro ticket sellers never say anything about writing one's name on the small ticket. Thanks for pointing out this oversight in your video.
@dieseldragon6756 13 күн бұрын
Are you sure you're buying tickets from legitimate RATP outlets? I've bought _Paris Visite_ passes both from station windows and machines, and in both cases have received very clear instruction to write my details on the ticket to validate it. ✍
@mannyreyes9602 12 күн бұрын
@@dieseldragon6756 Yes, I've always purchased them from the Paris Metro ticket booth and I've never encountered a seller who instructed me to write my name on the Paris Visite ticket.
@RogerAckroid 12 күн бұрын
07:00 it also applies to La Défense and it's absolutely crazy that they didn't fix it. I think they do it on purpose to trick tourists. If you go to La Défense with metro line 1, you can use a normal ticket. But if you go to the same place in RER you need a more expensive ticket. This is absolutely infuriating.
@aquilegus 10 күн бұрын
To be fair, it isn't (wasn't ?) a mistake. The idea was to allow people travelling in from further afield to use the RER, and encourage those within Paris to use the metro Line 1. But as it was easy to make the mistake, there were suggestion years ago to change it. Not sure that they did though.
@RogerAckroid 10 күн бұрын
@@aquilegus it's way too complicated for anyone who doesn't go there to know. The problem was raised years ago and it's still not fixed because it's a good way to steal money from tourists in the form of fines.
@suebock4680 15 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@LesFrenchiesTravel 15 күн бұрын
Thank YOU!
@garthf9609 18 күн бұрын
Well this video has put me off getting on a train in Paris, why does everything have to be so complex.
@dieseldragon6756 13 күн бұрын
If you think Paris is bad, try London. The Underground is a place where - If you're unfortunate enough to be gay and work for the company - You find yourself getting abused and harmed to the point you lose the ability to work. 🚇🇬🇧💥🙅 At least RATP have the decency to accept that homosexuals are just as human as everybody else... 🚈🏳🌈🇫🇷👍
@Ryu-lz6rq 12 күн бұрын
controllllll slow you down and pay more
@beverlywilcox4349 11 күн бұрын
Making it simple for tourists is, and should be, a lower priority than making an equitable public transport system that distributes its costs fairly between the well-to-do and the people who perform the work we all need. Please go on the Metro at least a couple of times and do some people-watching -- it's an inexpensive, educational, enjoyable eye-opener. I wish we could take care of our essential workers here in the US this well.
@renferal5290 18 күн бұрын
Since I don't speak the language, it seems like taking the Metro would not be a good idea. I would be sure to mess up, get lost and fined
@joelnehl 18 күн бұрын
I’ve been to Paris 5 times and don’t speak French. I think the Metro is wonderful and very easy to use. I’ve only had my tickets checked once in all the trips I’ve taken.
@danielm1383 15 күн бұрын
This happens so quickly. I went to the counter specifically to buy a ticket, only to have problems at the destination because it was the wrong one. Thank God I didn't have to pay. The Navigo easy card with 10 trips is the best card for visiting Paris (only for trips in the city).
@ClarkJ2265 18 күн бұрын
Great info for newbies! My first time riding SNCF in the Nord - straight out of college- I didn’t know about compostez le billet and paid 50 FF - cash! When I took my niece to Paris 5 years ago, I reminded her to keep her ticket when we were going back to CDG. When the control came, she couldn’t find it and had so many old tickets in her pocket. She paid a 40€ fine. Poor thing was so embarrassed.
@honeypath 16 күн бұрын
I was fined as well as I could not find the ticket, but only the receipt. They show NO mercy as instead a raises they keep fines. FYI I contacted VISA and they credited me for the fine.
@dieseldragon6756 13 күн бұрын
Just for reference: 50FF is about 6€25 when converted at the ECB rate (About 8FF per Euro) and the penalty today is 50 *Euro.* Work that out in Francs, and you got off _pretty darn lightly_ compared to todays penalty rates! 😁 Mind you: I live in a country where the money is still named after non-metric units of weight. Back then it was roughly 10FF to the lb, but thanks to « _Un change petit-peut au l'accords Europeén en 2016-20_ 💩 » one FF is easily worth several kilos of pounds today! 💷📉😉
@dieseldragon6756 13 күн бұрын
@@honeypath Err, check they *credited* you for that and didn't *charge back* the fine. If the latter applies, you've potentially committed an offence against a French official body and you might end up with a criminal record in France for it. ⚠
@honeypath 13 күн бұрын
If anyone should be "charged' it's they officials for harassment. I had both the ticket and receipt. I did not have in hard when they came by. They said they had NO TIME for me to look, had another 'offficial' come- they are masters at intimidation.. All to line their pockets. One llady have FIVE gang up on her. A 70+ old woman. Really?
@ClarkJ2265 13 күн бұрын
@@dieseldragon6756 the rate was worse back then. It was a lot for a college student. May have been more
@krismyers4940 18 күн бұрын
My daughters and I purchased the wrong tickets to Versailles. Unfortunately, we were fined 35€ pp, upon arrival in Versailles. Live & learn!😋
@ThomasHarrison-de5ik 14 күн бұрын
Saw you today on top of gallery la Fayette..." There's the chap on KZfaq who helped us sort out our metro tickets" Thanks 👍👍👍 from a British tourist 😊
@LesFrenchiesTravel 13 күн бұрын
Hello!!
@mykellacarter7322 18 күн бұрын
3:09 i appreciate that rule as someone who use to commute via train
@brianmcdonald6519 13 күн бұрын
I visited Paris about 30 years ago, and the Metro system was not complicated back then! Never had any problem purchasing the right ticket for where I was going! This new system seems to have been designed by lawyers!!
@user-jb1ex2lm9l 15 күн бұрын
My family and I just got back from Paris last week, we ended up getting Navigo, decouverte, we took extra passport picture from home and cut it to size, the pass comes with peel and stick backing, easy to attach your picture to it, this pass is good Monday 12 am till Sunday 11:59 pm for one week, if are going to stay longer than a week, then go the service booth and ask the attended to add couple of more days to it (yes they speak English), which we did, we went to all the zones with metro, bus, RER and had no issues, we got checked once and the officer nodded and let us go, easy to use, if you are there less than a week then just buy daily pass, but for $35 euros each person, the pass made sense since we went to attraction away from the center of the Paris
@cheapworldtraveller 8 күн бұрын
I'm probarly really lucky, but I've been to Paris countless times and I've never been checked by control. Didn't even know this was a serious thing. Didn't know about the writing your name on the ticket. So Thank You!
@SteelCityBarista 7 күн бұрын
Hey guys. Love all your videos and have watched all of them at least once in anticipation of my wife and I enjoying our first ever visit to Paris! Quick question regarding the weekly Metro pass that feels like a silly one but here goes!! We are in Paris for 4 days (3 nights) Tues-Fri so are thinking the weekly Metro pass may be most cost effective, but how do we 'attach' a passport photo to the pass as mentioned in your video. Merci beaucoup!
@SkipperJane 18 күн бұрын
I’ve ridden the metro in London, Paris, and Amsterdam. The Paris system just seems willfully confusing at this point.
@thierrydesu 18 күн бұрын
That's because Paris is far smaller than other capital cities but has a huge surburb and as a consequence, it has a big regional train system that must not be confused with the subway system.
@barrieshepherd7694 12 күн бұрын
@@thierrydesuNo different to London.
@thierrydesu 12 күн бұрын
@@barrieshepherd7694 London is much bigger than Paris.
@barrieshepherd7694 12 күн бұрын
@@thierrydesu That was my point! London is as big/bigger than Paris but has managed a sensible ticketing system.
@DayleDiamond 12 күн бұрын
My metropolis, Los Angeles, has a prepaid card that automatically calculates everything between three dozen local agencies, including transfers and discounts. We have our share of problems, but the pricing structure is as tourist-friendly as can be.
@Canleaf08 8 күн бұрын
Tourist friendly pricing. But not so tourist friendly frequency of service. You can wait up to 25 minutes for a train going from Union Station to Hollywood. Bus lines can be looooonnnngggg in LA.
@DayleDiamond 8 күн бұрын
@@Canleaf08 I'm not sure what you're saying. The Union Station to Hollywood subway headways slow down late at night, yes. But aren't the long distance busses a good thing?
@paulfarthing2807 18 күн бұрын
Quick tip. Don't put your ticket in your phone case, the magnetic field can wipe it. This is a known issue and staff may warn you when you buy your tickets. I've not had the problem on the Paris metro (forewarned is forearmed) but it did once happen to me with a hotel key card here in the UK.
@Pidalin 2 күн бұрын
They lie to you to make it your mistake, but it's not your mistake and you didn't wiped it, it just died for no reason. It happened to me also with hotel card several times and I kept it far from my phone and other electronics, so it's not about phones, it's just outdated not realiable technology and they lie to you when they say you wiped it with your phone. BTW, talking about phones, here in Czechia, we already buy tickets in apps, these e-tickets and gates are absolute bizar for me, I saw it in Lisbon and I would buy a car if they installed it here.
@jonb4020 11 күн бұрын
An excellent video and commentary. The zone system, as in many big cities, can be confusing. That said, the best advice I could offer anyone re Paris is DON'T BOTHER GOING THERE! It's a lousy place, dirty, overpriced and unfriendly. If you have the time and money to visit Europe, there are dozens - scores - of far more pleasant and interesting places to visit. Bordeaux, Chartres, Carcasonne, Lyon, Cahors, Amsterdam, Bruges, Berlin, Leipzig, Munich, Heidelberg, Vienna, Santiago de Compostela, Sevilla, Saragoza, Madrid, Pisa, Florence, Rome (but can be difficult), Copenhagen, Ljubljana, Dubrovnik, Lisbon...
@aj.d.9096 3 күн бұрын
Beware. I nearly got fined at Charles de Gualle for taking the RER from the city centre without buying the right ticket. I was traveling alone and nervous about getting on the right train and catching my flight on time. I took the metro to the city centre then followed the signs for RER. I scanned my regular meteo pass at a turnstile and was surprised to see it let me through, giving me a false sense of security. The train was about to leave and I ran to hop on just in time, then panicked that I didn't ensure that is was actually the right RER I was on. We came to Gare du Norde just as I was satisfied I was on the right train, then wondered why I hadn't been stopped yet by a turnstile for not getting the RER airport ticket. I thought about getting off and finding a machine to buy it, but hesitated too long and the doors closed. Then I was on my way to the airport with no other stops or opportunities to buy the ticket. I realized my mistake and started to get worried they would think I was avoiding the fare on purpose at the airport. I really wasn't, I was just confused and then felt stupid I rushed to catch the train. I asked a french couple on the train what I should do and they warned me of the big fine. When we arrived this very nice couple said "follow us" and the lady told me to piggyback with her through the turnstile. They saved my ass 50 euro and a lot of embarrassment. I made a mistake, but I also think treating the RER like a regular metro through paris is very confusing to tourist who are expecting to be stopped when it is time to purchase a ticket for a further away zone. I feel that Paris knows this, and likes to collect the fines from tourists who probably make this mistake all the time.
@melodynelson5595 18 күн бұрын
My husband got a 60 Euro fine because his ticket he paid for didn’t open the turnstile so he hopped it. They were right there around the corner waiting and asked for his passport. Told him if ticket not work then should’ve pushed some obscure button for assistance. They gave no mercy even though had a paid ticket.
@honeypath 16 күн бұрын
It's because instead of raises, they get to keep fines. I got one as well even with the receipt and if was terrifying. Treated like a common criminal- So sad as there is no way to know all the rules in advance.
@noahifiv 12 күн бұрын
Your tips are so true. Once, my ticket got demagnetised. I had carried it my pocket without protection. I was really lucky, I never got fined yet. Now, I use the new rechargable paper card (3 Euro+price of 10 tickets). It is seems to be of a better quality than single tickets.
@maelstrom254 18 күн бұрын
Too many rules☹️. There is only one simple rule: completely ignore ticket controller, there is nothing he can do with you. It is not police.👮
@adelineng7883 11 күн бұрын
Would appreciate more info on riding the metro and tickets available for the Olympic period.
@futurecanadian 13 күн бұрын
i am glad I got a Navigo pass a few years ago. Makes uses the Metro/RER a snap.
@beverlywilcox4349 11 күн бұрын
Yes, as long as you have a local address (even an AirBnB), you can buy a Navigo pass that's good for several years, and just buy a monthly or weekly pass each time you visit Paris. Bring an ID photo that the clerk in the ticket booth can seal into the card. That's what the photo booths we saw in Amelie were for. 🙂
@testman9541 17 күн бұрын
When traveling outsode zone 1, pay attention to the location of your destination. If the whole route is Metro line only you can go there with a T+ ticket. If not you need a "orogine-destination Ticket" a ticket with the name of the depart station/zone and the name of the destination station. Default origine is Paris (meaning here any station of zone1). Also there are some corner cases for odd routes, there you will be asked the "via"(going thri where) to get more precise tarrif. Be sure to get the exact origine-destination withe the right via (and not taking the other via eoute) or you can ger a fine. Last point you can ask for reclamation to try to get your fine away. You will have to explain why you were in "good faith" and think you should not be fined 🎉 I had an issue once where I forgot to have a ticket destination for La Defense via RER, en route, close to aroval, I noticed my mistake and knew I could not exit. I went thru all the station to find a ticket booth inside the RER station to get me the right ticket but none. On one exit I saw some controler and went to them to ask for help "hello I have the wrong ticket T+ how can I get the right one" I asked. The guy answere "control, your valid ticket please"🤦 I explained my mistake and my quest andasked again for help and the guy asked again for a valid ticket🤦🤦 He gave me a fine 🤦 I filled a reclamation describing everything and giving my T+ ticket as a proof of my mistake. Some week later they wrote back explaining the rules but trashing the fine 🎉
@K1OIK 12 күн бұрын
On June 6, 1944 my grandfather did not have a ticket as he came upon a French beach but no problem there weren't any French men around.
@meofnz2320 13 күн бұрын
Various countries ticketing and validation systems have long been a nightmare of overfeatured websites and mysterious payment options. I’m so happy now that many are moving to the credit/debit card option. Although even then it’s often not clear if you need to tag off as well. I’m sure all this confusion is financially beneficial to the operators.
@numismatajaime7974 18 күн бұрын
One time the machine did not validate the paper ticket, but the turnstile was released. No one from security at the turnstiles to advise what to do.
@Slotomnet 9 күн бұрын
I have had such experience. They were literally waiting for the tourists to force them to pay the fine. Legal crime from RATP.
@carryerd 17 күн бұрын
The last one happened to my wife and I a few years back. We were exiting at La Defense and chose the wrong exit for our tickets. Strangely at that station there used to be 2 exits, one was in zone 1 and it seems one was in zone 2.
@LesFrenchiesTravel 16 күн бұрын
ouch, that sucks
@andreyivanov7193 13 күн бұрын
My spouse and I just returned from Paris, and our experience with the ticket controllers was very unpleasant. We entered Pigalle station where the turnstiles were undergoing maintenance, and the doors were open for everyone. When the controllers approached us on the trains, we presented a bunch of newly purchased tickets. However, they began to act intimidatingly, as they were swiping our tickets on their machine and repeating that they were all invalid. Our initial confusion stemmed from the fact that we had just bought them. Despite our obvious confusion, the controllers didn't bother to explain the situation, even though it was clear we were tourists who might not fully understand. Instead, they continued to escalate the situation, insisting that this was a serious matter in Europe. Fortunately, my wife mentioned that the station we entered was undergoing maintenance. They then contacted that station and verified our story, proving we were not lying. We thought that persons who perform public service should have a better people's skills and don't embarrase the esteblishment they represent.
@dieseldragon6756 13 күн бұрын
The issue here is that your tickets hadn't been *validated* prior to travel, as given in the video and in accordance with the conditions of carriage for the RATP Métro. Even if the gates are open you should validate your tickets by inserting them into any gate that displays the message « _Introducez votre Billet_ » (Insert your ticket) as this will mark the ticket with the date, time and station you entered at. 👍 In many countries the acts of _buying_ and _using_ tickets are legally separate functions so simply _buying_ a ticket from the machine at the station doesn't necessarily mean that you _used_ it from that station, as you might buy a ticket at station A to commence a journey from nearby station B where the ticket machines aren't working (Which is the expected behavior where that situation applies). That's why you need to validate your ticket at the point where you actually _use_ it, and is why non-validated tickets aren't considered valid for travel. 👮 (N.B: The above doesn't usually apply in countries like the UK where validation isn't normally used, but if in any doubt it's always best to check the rules *before* commencing your first journey. Staff at any station will be happy to explain how their system works, whether tickets need to be validated (And how one validates them) before travel, and any other important things you need to know as a first-timer. 😇)
@Slotomnet 9 күн бұрын
I had the same experience a few weeks ago - the door not working. The controllers behaved like the Gestapo. My son was crying, they threatened us with the police. RATP - disgusting!!!
@Slotomnet 9 күн бұрын
@@dieseldragon6756 According to your explanation, every tourist should also be a lawyer with a PhD. I UNDERSTAND that they punish people who travel without tickets, and rightly so. However, it is inadmissible and unacceptable that they legally "steal" from people who honestly bought tickets, but due to a confusing and dysfunctional system, they do not find their way and unknowingly and unintentionally commit an offence. There should be a tolerance for these cases. The Gestapo - controller could simply tell us to walk up to the WORKING gate and validate the tickets. That's what I call simple humanity. I hope you understand.
@ianmp1416 12 күн бұрын
Why wont Zone 5 tickets work in Zone1? In Montréal, if you purchase a ticket for lets say Zone D, which is the cities further away from the city (Rigaud St Hyacinthe etc.) , it will work in every zones for every modes of transportation.
@Pammellam 18 күн бұрын
Goodness this is so complicated. The Tokyo metro is so much easier to use.
@garthf9609 18 күн бұрын
Yes agree, its fantastic
@LesFrenchiesTravel 5 күн бұрын
no doubt
@casksj356 15 күн бұрын
All great advice! I watched your Metro video before visiting Paris and everything went amazing! I still have my Navigo Easy card so when I visit Paris again I’ll save myself the €2 euros. :D and yeah I got controlled a couple times. Thank you guys!
@LesFrenchiesTravel 15 күн бұрын
🙂❤️👍
@shughes5725 18 күн бұрын
Might be easier and cheaper to walk! How can you keep all of this straight?
@pamelawing5747 18 күн бұрын
I got the Navigo and it was great. I must say that my friend and I were in Paris for two weeks so it worked for us and then the last couple of days we just got the regular tickets (can't remember what the bundle was called now, it's been a few years and my Navigo just expired. 😢😢) It is VERY easy to research the transportation and types of tickets available AND their cost, BEFORE your trip so if you mess up and get caught? C'est la vie. Oh well.
@PatricioGarcia1973 14 күн бұрын
I hear complaints about the NYC subway, but after using the Paris Metro and London Underground, the metrocard system is great. One price and you can ride 1 mile or 20 miles.
@adamshinbrot 13 күн бұрын
I don't know if it's still the case, but many years ago my wife and I found ourselves inadvertently in a 1st Class metro car, which upgrade we had not paid for. We had no idea there were 1st Class cars. It was actual police who caught us; they were very nice, and just made us move to a different car.
@iamatransporter 18 күн бұрын
What an absolute pain compared to London.
@LesFrenchiesTravel 16 күн бұрын
true
@Mishima505 13 күн бұрын
Or even Tokyo.
@TheJase8566 12 күн бұрын
Not really. Its 31 Euros for an all zone weekly. cheap!
@fuglbird 12 күн бұрын
@iamatransporter Not really. You can have a nice time in Paris without being rubbed. Not so in London.
@hippiemuslim 5 күн бұрын
@@TheJase8566 Which must start in a monday. So stupid.
@laurabrown3785 18 күн бұрын
We almost got fined because we got off one train - I think from the airport - and there was the next one we needed right at the next platform. We didn't think about our destination being in the zone 5. We were supposed to buy another ticket. Luckily we were only warned because they understood what happened.
@greggross8856 2 күн бұрын
Do you have to be a local to qualify for the senior discount ticket?
@LeonHoward 13 күн бұрын
I avoided getting fined in Paris by not going there, thanks but I pass.
@bengt_axle 13 күн бұрын
I think this is great advice even for other transit authorities. In Montreal, we have a similar system, and one thing visitors (and even students living there for some time) do is assume that to go from zone 4 to zone 5, you need a 1 zone fare. This is incorrect. You need a zone 5 fare, even though the distance may be short. Second, is to not validate ("composter" in France) the ticket and use up the fare stored on the card. Finally, because we have no signature system, and enforcement is lax, some people will enter the métro and then hand their pass to someone else to use, while they travel without any proof of payment, or they will deliberately enter on the back of the bus, so as to avoid scanning their fare card. Many tourists see this and do the same, often getting away with it because our enforcement is lax. But surprise enforcement does occur, and when it is there, it is impossible to escape. That's when you see a lot of 16 year olds in tears beside the turnstile, flanked by enforcement authorities. Best strategy is to go with the multi-day passes because driving is not recommended if you are visiting the city and it takes out much of the hassle of knowing the fare rules. You cannot "pay twice" when you scan your card, as the system automatically recognizes the time limit and other restrictions (e.g. boarding the métro a second time after boarding the bus) and charges you accordingly. So you should always scan your card and know the fare rules.
@Canleaf08 8 күн бұрын
Île de Montreal is Zone A, Laval and Longueuil are Zone B, Brossard and St Constant are Zone C, I think Salla de Valleyfield and other places on the reach of EXO bus and Rail is Zone D. Meaning, if you bought a plastic Opus card in Montreal or in Laval, the possible day or other passes are only for A or B. Whilst in St Constant transfers are free, you need another occasionelle card for the EXO service. Here is Montreal’s weaknesses. You need the Chrono app or a pharmaprix which sells Opus cards. Do not bother Quebec City. This is another zone. So I traveled recently with four different invalid cards from Longueuil’s Panama terminus to St Constant.
@maobfh 18 күн бұрын
Who knew? While I would not try to cheat the metro, assuming that there would be systems in place, I would have been caught out on a couple of these things, such as signing the tickets or knowing to bring another passport photo. Thanks for the heads up!
@samwisegamgee6532 16 күн бұрын
For the record, a lot of tourists mistakes could be solved by having human seller instead of machines. In a country with massive unemployment, I am not sure that vending machines are the best choice for a public service. Fining should be reserved for true cheaters, not foreigners lost by the complexity of the system.
@computerfan1079 13 күн бұрын
One thing I just can't understand, is that it is incredibly complicated to buy a ticket from Gare du Nord to Gare de Lyon. I'm a programmer and nearly missed my train because I just couldn't figure it out! Luckily we were helped by an employee
@dailodai9586 13 күн бұрын
I was fined for not having my photo on my 7 day navigate pass. it was so disappointing. please make sure to attach photo right after you get the navigo
@markreid7 12 күн бұрын
So I guess we will get three navago passes. We are going to Versailles once and two of us are going to Disney twice. So how do you put those on the navago card or should we buy individual tickets for these two locations? And if it’s the latter, you must buy them within 90 minutes if the trip?
@davidebacchi9030 13 күн бұрын
Is it possible to do like in Italy (at least Milan and Rome) tapping the credit card at the entrance and tapping again at the exit so the fare is calculated automatically?
@ClarkJ2265 18 күн бұрын
I have a feeling it’s going to be crazy on the metro during the Olympics.
@thierrydesu 18 күн бұрын
Of course it is. It's done on purpose. People have done what it takes to make France look more ridiculous than usually for a few years.
@garthf9609 18 күн бұрын
I bet they are already recruiting more ticket inspectors
@LesFrenchiesTravel 16 күн бұрын
I have the same feeling
@Canleaf08 8 күн бұрын
@@garthf9609 « Operation Titre inspection »
@stevereaburn7626 18 күн бұрын
are there any issues handing over a (used) all day pass at the end of your own travel day to another person? We did this about 6 months ago, to some people that were about to buy their own tickets. I hope it worked for them & they didn't get fined!
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