They killed off Zhaban to explore Picard's relationship with Laris to then not explore Picard's relationship with Laris at all.

Since Discovery takes place in the distant future - almost every Star Trek character has died off screen.

Imagine if on SNW they find Prime Lorca abandoned on a planet where evil Lorca put him so he couldn't contact anyone. idk just an idea

The weird thing about Zhaban dying off screen is that they still didn't really go anywhere with Laris and Picard, and she was also dropped for the most part.

Tasha Yar also had 2 deaths,one on screen and the second off, like Spock 🖖🇨🇦

Crewman Cutler's death off screen in Enterprise hurts when you find out the actress passed away during the shows run.

Most moving off-screen death: Ens. Sito, TNG S7 "Lower Decks" . Another forgotten off-screen death: Robert Picard, ST:GEN.

Spock died 3 times, In Wrath of Khan, with the Romulan supernova (for the original Star Trek Timeline) and the saddest of all, off screen in the Kelvin Timeline when Leonard Nimoy died

I admit, I was very confused by the stardates of Spock's life in the thumbnail until I remembered he died in the past. 😅

One of the off-screen deaths that gave me shivers was Sito Jaxa's. You could also say that "no body, no death" with this one... even if I think that it would undermine her death and the reaction of Picard and the Enterprise's crew...

Sito Jaxa should have been on your list!

I'm going to assume that Weyoun 5 was killed in a failed experiment to get a Jem'Hadar to sit down... :P

In the case of Prime Spock, its just using his birth and death according to the time in that universe, yet he was tossed back in time so his age would be misrepresented by that time stamp.

I am a fan of mirror universe stories and I enjoyed the first season of Discovery. However, my one major complaint is that the Lorca story was resolved too quickly. I hope the Section 31 story might bring it back around.

The i in McGivers is long. Guess I'm one of the few TOS diehards on here.

rest in peace leonard nimoy 🖖

That "no relation" moment with Duncan Rillak took me all the way back to Babs and Buster Bunny's in unison "NO RELATION!" from the opening credits of "Tiny Toon Adventures" back in the early 90s. Ah, to be a kid again, growing up watching TNG and Tiny Toons.

Are Doctor Spock's boot's made from vulcanized rubber?

So how come Sito Jaxa showed up in the intro but not on the list itself? I think she deserved a spot.

I was expecting Trip Tucker to be Number 1! We only saw him die in a holo deck story. If holodeck stories are as unreliable as Hollywood movies that are “based on a true story,” the No body, No Death. Trip survived!!!

Well the thing with Krajenski is, an ambassador is a rather high-priority target. We also saw one shpeshifter impersonate O'Brien during the Homefront-arc, to just tell him how much of a chaos fear can do. But O'Brien was not even in danger at that time. An ambassador is something far different. If someone found him, they'd quickly know that there is some other Krajensky somewhere. And while their means of exfiltration are obviously quite good, given that they managed to switch not only Julian Bashir (a lowly medical officer on some remote dingbat station), but also the General-in-Chief on the Klingon Empire (a highly militaristic nation) and the chief of the Obsidian Order of Cardassia (a super-secret service organisation), I think that this shapeshifter just went the safest route and vaporised Krajensky. I mean as far as we can tell, the shapeshifters clearly stated "No changeling ever kille another changeling". So solids were not part of that deal....

The Spock thumbnail should have TWO sets of dates, shouldn't it?

"Maybe you should go talk to Worf again " 😂😂😂

Can we just admit that mirror universe Kira was Hot 🔥🔥🔥

If someone is going to make another Kelvin timeline movie, I'm pretty sure that the Pavel Chekov of that timeline will be killed off-screen.

Weyoun was a clone...does he really count as far as cheating death?

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We saw a shuttle explode but there's no proof Ro Laren was still on it when it did. (She is alive and well having used her Starfleet Advanced Tactical Training to get off the shuttle before it exploded!)

Totally unrelated to Star Trek in general or this video in particular, but sometimes Seán Ferrick’s affirmations are the best part of my day.

In the episode, the graphic does not state Hoshi's death was due to Kodos. What you are referring is an alternate image that was not used on screen.

The writers and actors handled the death of Leonard Nimoy, hence, Spock, extremely well. It was a brief but meaningful scene.

one of the first characters i thought of was Sito Jaxa

Ro Laren is now part of the group "no Body no Death".

Honestly I'm fine with Spock dying off screen. We've already seen him die in the wrath of Kahn. And I know Leonard nemoi passed away is also the reason why but still.

Next time you’re both on Irish Romulus, please ask Laris if she ended up with Picard.

8:46-9:01...Was this Governor Kodos...or Thanos😂

I just realized: Kodos is an early version of Thanos! Both mad men sought to remove half a population to conserve resources.

What of Sito Jaxa? If Cal Hudson and that ambassador were on this list, she too belongs on it.

McGEYEvers not McGivers

Tasha Yar (alternate) would have been a solid addition.

Potentially Prime Lorca could appear in SNW

I always thought it was kinda crazy that Cal Hudson had such an important posting for a lieutenant commander.

No Trip? :)

So - Ro Laren’s still alive then?

Do a list of space borne creatures

Weyoun 5 was killed by Damar in an transporter "accident".

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I think Amanda Grayson (the TOS one) died off screen and mentioned in TNG.....

I've seen Duncan Rillak in ads more than we've seen Pres Rillak this season 😮😅

I'd never read Hoshi's death details. The idea that it was Kodos . . . well, at least he paid for it. By my rough estimates, Hoshi would have been in her 90s when it happened. In one of the Discovery novels, the Shenzhou and the Buran responded to the distress calls from Tarsus IV, and Prime Lorca hunted Kodos down to his hideout and apprehended him, though he was livid when Kodos was allowed to go into hiding under a new name. It was a good novel. And yeah, I always shed a tear for Sarek. Such a foundational character in Trek lore. And James Frain was a much better Sarek than Ben Cross. When Spock was acknowledged in Discovery's "Unifcation III", I couldn't keep a big smile and a tear off my face.

Marla also got a sort of death scene in the trilogy of novels "The rise and fall of Khan Noonien Singh" (I and II) and "To Reign in Hell", all by Greg Cox.... OK, it's mainly the latter, but it's a good filler for both the Eugenics War (in the 1990s as originally told) and the gap on CETI ALPHA FIVE! between Space Seed and The Wrath of KHAAAAAAN! (Puns very much intended!)

PORTHOS! He dies 😢 in a transporter accident carried out by Scotty -Simon Pegg, according to the 2009 movie.

Awesomeness. I think that if we (I) had seen another "Weyoun" in what ever form we would have gone nuts....I was kida tired of always seeing Weyoun there, backgound in front of or behind always there. I was so happy when Garik shot him , the female shapeshifter said "He was the last" I yelled Yes......

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What about Chakotay?

13:50 So any super Trekkies here understand the Star Date system used in this clip? I’m assuming he was older than 32.96 years old since Vulcans are very long lived compared to Humans. According to this clip Spock was born on Star 💫 date 2230.06 and died on SD 2263.02 a difference of 32.96 Star dates ?? There must be a Galactic version of Zulu/GMT Space time zone that keeps track of the passage of time relative to some reference point such as Earth 🌎. Your thoughts 💭 🤔?

Good to know.

FYI, they recorded this BEFORE they hit 300K subs.

My question is what about Weyoun 1 2 and 3 lol

BTW Prime Lorca was in STO and the Drastic Measures Novel....And he is a surprisingly good captain. It would have been cool if we had actually got Prime Lorca as captain.

Spock didn't die. He went home

Uh, technically the consciousness of Sarek of Vulcan, the katra resides in picard and his son spock

Knowing the Mirror Universe as well as we do by now, I definitely think it's most likely that Lorca killed his Prime counterpart and replaced him once he realized he had gotten stuck there. It still begs the question of what Prime Lorca must have been like and how similar they were to each other, since Mirror was apparantly able to play him convincingly for quite some time.

Anyone notice that Spock life span is from 2230.6 - 2263.2???? He would have been just under 33 years old. Production should have noticed and made the date of birth 2030 at least he would have the average Vulcan lifespan

The Dominion most likely had multiple internment camps, so the ambassador could've been kept at a different camp.

Disappointed not to see Sito (spelling?) on this list.

Lieutenant Ma-guy-vers 😉

The absence of background music is tripping me up.

If we assume Mirror Sisko was the Emissary in his universe as well, it’s possible the Prophets could have saved him

Did Sean just do a ninja turtle.

Zhaban was a pointless "death" since they rather ignored Laris herself for s2 and forgot about her in s3. And s1 had brother-sister incest implied to be not uncommon is Romulan society, so Zhaban was killed just for the audience (not actual *fans*) who didn't want to think about Picard being in an MFM throuple.

Her name is Marla McGivers (mic guy verse)

I hope that Prime Lorca does reappear.

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so sato was killed by startreks version of thanos ?

L. Nimoy was great in Fringe.

Weyoun 5 is in sector 31!!!!

I’d have included enterprise c Tasha tar on the list.

Zhaban didn't have to die because it doesn't change the story of Picard and Laris. Even if he were in the castle

The entire bridge crew of the ToS Enterprise except Kirk.

Jadzia Dax is the most ridiculous one for me. And the replacement character is my least favourite Star Trek character in the whole franchise.

Spock was still alive in the 2370s wasn't he?

I had no issues with Capt. Gabriel Lorca. Mirror Universe counterpart or not, he was the sort of CO a Federation at war would need. Fans resent Capt. Jellico, but he, like Jim Kirk or even Lorca, Understood and Appreciated the need for Starfleet to have and retain a Military role, as proved during the Dominion War. Something those who naively think that diplomacy solves Everything would never appreciate, though in real life, such an attitude proved nearly fatal (ie: Brit Prime Minister Chamberlain naively thinking the Nazis can be reasoned with, and yakking on about 'Peace, peace in our time).'

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RIP 🖖😔🖖🍁

I really liked Lorca! Lost interest in Disco after he was gone

I'm still so, SO angry about Zhaban. I can understand that the actor had a better offer with Wednesday and good for him, I liked him there, too. But ... one doesn't have to kill of a character just because the actor can't be there for f's sake! And sorry, but Laris/Picard not only had no chemistry, they also completely underused her. (Only to, let's be honest, make Picard run back to Beverly, bc Laris was moving to a different planet in the beginning of S3 and clearly, Picard didn't go with her.) They should've kept the possibility open to them to one day make a Laris/Zhaban comedy-ish thing, bc those two were GOLD together.

So sad Spock was only in his 30s when he passed. He did NOT age well.

Ummmmmm….SITO JAXA?

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B4 is revealed to have not accepted the memory transfer from Data, which shut him down. In a way that means Data died twice, then Picard pulled the plug on him, and then he returned as a new Data…and Lore, and B4 and Dr. Soong’s son.

I love your content, but right after Spock, do that sponsor stuff in the beginning. Very bad taste. I know money and all but damn.

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I got to stop watching halfway through too many spoilers I haven't caught up on some of the series yet

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Pour one out for William Boimler. 🫗

I didn't really like picard series he was old and they should have left him dead like kirk

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take the JJ out of star trek!