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10 Things Photographers Should Stop Doing Now!

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KelbyOne

KelbyOne

Күн бұрын

On Episode 231 of "The Grid," host Scott Kelby is joined by famous Aviation and Landscape Photographer Moose Peterson for an episode about things photographers should STOP doing to be successful in photography.

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@elissaboss3809
@elissaboss3809 7 жыл бұрын
As a new photographer, this video is exactly what I needed to see. I'm legally blind and a perfectionist. Lately I've been finding myself getting frustrated with not getting the finished product I imagined. I absolutely agree that this frustration comes out in my photos. Your passion is infectious. Thank you for renewing mine!
@BrianAndersonPhotography
@BrianAndersonPhotography 8 жыл бұрын
One of the best shows you've done to date Scott :) I will share this everywhere I can.
@nickmilton3895
@nickmilton3895 8 жыл бұрын
Great Episode. You're absolutely right the anger needs to stop. Constructive criticism does not need to be harsh. No one who is passionate ever stops learning so we all are part of the same process. Help when you can. My aspirations as little as they are is to get to a place where I can sell photographs. I'm not quitting my day job any time soon.
@lighthousephotographydream3302
@lighthousephotographydream3302 8 жыл бұрын
"...walking down the railroad tracks with a guitar on his shoulder" bahahaaaaa!!! that was priceless! Thank you gentleman for this AMAZING show, it was SO GOOD!
@lloyd76oswald
@lloyd76oswald 8 жыл бұрын
I think the anger you were talking about comes from our competitive nature as humans. A lot of people feel the need to have the "best", make the "best", and be the"best" and can never get past that and just do THEIR best and not worry about the rest.
@marti_flute
@marti_flute 10 ай бұрын
I have two boxes of prints of my family that I recovered from my brother's apartment after he died. I am the last one standing in my family, and those prints (and scans I shared to social media and my family tree online) are the only family photos I have.
@AnVoPhotography
@AnVoPhotography 8 жыл бұрын
All photographers should watch this. So true.
@KelbyOne
@KelbyOne 8 жыл бұрын
+An Vo Thanks!! =)
@stevorider6753
@stevorider6753 8 жыл бұрын
When it comes to gear many youtuber photographers jump on the bandwagon to be the first to make a video about it even though they haven't even used it just for the views omgg. You won't trust a review of a new car if they haven't driven it so why not with photography equipment. All manufactures make fantastic cameras but hey concentrate on your skills and visions rather than wanting the most up to date equipment. Don't compare others to yourself develop your own style and respect other shooters no matter their skill. Great video guys ty :)
@jilliandennis2576
@jilliandennis2576 8 жыл бұрын
Good vid......if i am processing more than 20 shots.....i always go back the next day and take a look, then tweek the images. Your eyes DO become accustomed to something that is over processed.
@toddhumphrey7814
@toddhumphrey7814 4 жыл бұрын
I love what you are saying here. I think that we all have experienced some if not all of these things. Thanks for airing this!
@markharris5771
@markharris5771 8 жыл бұрын
Besides for British WWII planes I don't know one from the other, and to be honest it hasn't piqued my interest to learn anything about them. But what I do know is that I appreciate Moose's skill in taking the photos he does, as for his wildlife and natural history I love them. I love the way he makes everything so easy to understand why, I love the respect and passion he has for his local wildlife but most of all I love the way he has the patience to get "that shot" and then he is willing to show me how he did. Also got more from Scott's studio series than any other on KZfaq, but that's because he fed my way of learning, so I certainly don't get mad with other teachers or techniques, I just appreciate what works for me. Great video.
@mickmckean7378
@mickmckean7378 8 жыл бұрын
Love listening to Moose's straight-talk. And you too of course Scott...
@Moshavnik7272
@Moshavnik7272 8 жыл бұрын
Timur is absolutely right! I used to belong to several photography forums and groups on several sites and would get slammed as soon as I posted my two cents or responded to questions by others. It didn't matter how polite and positive I was and what factual data I would offer from professionals such as Scott, the criticism was unavoidable. I ended up quitting all those sites. I also don't go on any social networks for the same reason. I have eliminated all the hate and anger directed towards me.
@michellewesson4409
@michellewesson4409 7 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing I discovered this video. I was feeling 'insecure' about my photos ( when I see what is out there in Photoshop and Lightroom FB group). I know I am more of an advanced beginner, but I LIKE some of my shots. Deep breath... its ok not to be perfect.....
@prestonlhouse
@prestonlhouse 8 жыл бұрын
One of your best shows! Pro Photogs, up and coming photogs really need to watch this!
@savagefrieze4675
@savagefrieze4675 7 жыл бұрын
Love the comment about changing perspective on our own photos. I have a really hard time choosing photos to submit for the local sports pages within ,inutes of a game.
@larrydalton1127
@larrydalton1127 7 жыл бұрын
Really liked the advice near the end, "print them and give them away", assuming you are not making a living from your photos. As an amateur I must start doing that.
@savagefrieze4675
@savagefrieze4675 7 жыл бұрын
Never have shot on rail road tracks now I feel challenged
@mooinabc1
@mooinabc1 6 жыл бұрын
I love to taking photo. Excellent help me to focus on my heart of taking photos. An on line photo gallery.
@Lordac
@Lordac 3 жыл бұрын
I know this is 2016 but it's still relevant. I know exactly what you are getting at when you say anyone can take a good photo. There used to be 40 now there are 7000! My trade was offset and letterpress printing. It used to be an actual trade, now it's all computerized and anyone can learn in a couple months what used to take years to learn.
@leonardgrant6876
@leonardgrant6876 3 жыл бұрын
Well Chip Litherland, really has great ideas on how to make creative photography. Most of the wedding photographers are taking the same photos where the only difference is the groom and bride.
@jim7953
@jim7953 8 жыл бұрын
Love the your show with 10 things photographer should stop doing, You are so right on and love you show hope to see you at the photoplusexpos in New York
@dianadel5193
@dianadel5193 6 жыл бұрын
I feel photography is about perspective of creativity of who is taking the photo. If they can tell a story about what they are seeing from their perspective and convey it through the eye of the camera it doesn't matter what others may think.
@wilbmoore
@wilbmoore 8 жыл бұрын
Hey Scott great show. would you mind if I link this up to my KZfaq show to share. This info was so down to earth and valuable information.
@richardcooper38
@richardcooper38 8 жыл бұрын
Chris, I haven't laughed that hard in a long time. Even my wife had to come and see what I was doing. Absolutely a great video. I had to share this on facebook. Thumbs UP!!!!
@savagefrieze4675
@savagefrieze4675 7 жыл бұрын
Some great points about the profession and making money. How many awesome photographers now make their lining teaching g internet, in person, and leading tours!
@greysuit17
@greysuit17 6 жыл бұрын
I thought this guy doesn't post process any of his images because he shoots in aperture priority and never gets anything wrong?
@richardcooper38
@richardcooper38 8 жыл бұрын
Haven't seen a layout like that before. It looks teriffic. Can't get over all the storage. Beautiful vessel.
@visualtrace
@visualtrace 8 жыл бұрын
Scott on supply and demand and Verizon raising prices. The effective monopoly granted to Verizon (and other telecoms and ISPs) corrupts the law of supply and demand. If Verizon had to compete on a more effectively level playing field, their prices would go down. The s&d analysis on photographers was correct.
@mohammedkasim9677
@mohammedkasim9677 8 жыл бұрын
the thing that make me made when photographing ,is when i take the time to pose the subject and another photographer start taking shots - my time and effort is now stolen. i also hate when people (in general) unknowingly stop in front of my subject. but i can't yell at them without looking like a psycho.
@DerekCarrMusicPhotographer
@DerekCarrMusicPhotographer 8 жыл бұрын
Great advice, 1 thing I definitely disagree with. You said that people at concerts with cell phones are taking amazing photos. I assure you they are not very good, except in the absolute best lighting conditions. I'd be willing to put any of my shots taken at a concert up against a cell phone picture taken at the same concert. I assure you it would be night and day. Thanks (as always) for the great tips on the show!
@SylvainDuford
@SylvainDuford 8 жыл бұрын
I find this time of anger is common with other technical fields that involve buying expensive gear. When people have finally selected a brand and spent a ton of money on gear, they need to get their choices validated and anyone who has a differing opinion becomes a threat. People don't like being told that maybe they didn't make the right choice. That's really stupid as we all have different needs and priorities, and gear is just gear, doesn't make you a better photographer.
@stevea5985
@stevea5985 5 жыл бұрын
Sylvain Duford Why ?
@KevinCurry
@KevinCurry 8 жыл бұрын
I like to give credence to what Bob Ross would often say, "If it makes you happy and doesn't hurt anyone, it's right"!
@MrMarcec85
@MrMarcec85 8 жыл бұрын
What is the name of the sport photographer kelby talked about?
@GeoffBosco
@GeoffBosco 8 жыл бұрын
"The problem is supply and demand..." Yes, I agree with your basic premise. But, this also means there are more photographers entering the market and driving down prices on gear. I say if it makes harder to make a buck but that buck goes farther, it can have a balancing effect...or, at least the situation isn't as dire as everyone makes it out to be.
@MarcoMoreno5757
@MarcoMoreno5757 8 жыл бұрын
Last year I made a good amount of money to buy all new equipment. However and before to buy the last gadget either from Nikon, Cannon or Sony I have to think first about my business and wait until the equipment reaches its point of depreciation.
@twaksak69
@twaksak69 4 жыл бұрын
Love my Fuji XH1 1 🤩
@shawvercreations9703
@shawvercreations9703 8 жыл бұрын
Great show Scott & Moose!!!
@MrJaynice5
@MrJaynice5 8 жыл бұрын
There is no perfect camera. We all use some type correction like adobe photo shop or light room. a great image can come from any type of camera. I shoot Canon 5D MK III but I like Nikon, Sony mirrorless,Canon, Hasselblad, and Phase one. You have buy the camera, lights, and lenses that fit your needs and budget.
@AndysCuts
@AndysCuts 8 жыл бұрын
Is this something I can listen on a podcast? so interesting
@markcomputertech7997
@markcomputertech7997 8 жыл бұрын
Good topics, I'm a big fan of Moose. You can see his influence in my artwork.
@BigRonRocks
@BigRonRocks 7 жыл бұрын
I agree with most of what was said, with one caveat. Don't post pictures unless you're prepared to deal with negative comments. If you just want a bunch of people commenting how great your pictures are, you'll never grow as a photographer. Embrace the negative comments and learn from them.
@EverythingFilmmaking
@EverythingFilmmaking 8 жыл бұрын
Not only is RR Tracks cliche, it is illegal..Client or not.
@kellygem
@kellygem 8 жыл бұрын
what do you think of Capture One Pro 9
@JesusChristIsLord__
@JesusChristIsLord__ 8 жыл бұрын
Great job!! Thank you! Liked, Shared & Subbed.
@CristiNeagu
@CristiNeagu 8 жыл бұрын
6:30 Partly. The reason why people are so aggressive when it comes to this subject is partly because there are no hard line rules, but also because it's a world of numbers. Megapixels, dynamic range, lens distortion, ISO noise, millimeters, f-stops, and all those other numbers you can find on DXOMark. A camera can be quantifiably better than another. But when it comes to taking pictures... things aren't so clear cut. Sometimes, people use a very sharp camera with a very sharp lens, and then they go and add grain and noise and contrast and kick that photo beyond recognition because it looks good to them. And that is fine. But then they go and bash some other photographer for using lower grade equipment, even though they could probably create the same photos with a phone. I also play guitar, and in music you can see the same behaviour. People will furiously defend their beloved brands because of some reason or another. But i always think of Sigur Ros. On one of their tracks they used a cymbal they found on the street. It was bent and a car probably drove over it at some point. But it was a sound they liked, a sound they were after, and they built a whole song around it. My position is that in this day and age, you can't really go wrong with any camera you pick up. In most cases, even a compact will do. What's important is that you connect with it, and it allows you to take the pictures that you want to take. And that's what's important.
@stevea5985
@stevea5985 5 жыл бұрын
Cristi Neagu Now it seems the " fix it in post " is the save all do all in Photography today .
@alexcarrillo1
@alexcarrillo1 8 жыл бұрын
Absolutely great advice and video
@Macsnapshot
@Macsnapshot 8 жыл бұрын
Great informative show! Can I share on my KZfaq ?
@Aspire2Cycle
@Aspire2Cycle 8 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to hear Mouse speak in Cedar Rapids on 4.23.2016!
@bigstick5278
@bigstick5278 8 жыл бұрын
Learn and master your equipment, the light and compositions one lens at a time. Don't blow off that 50mm.
@azpacfan
@azpacfan 7 жыл бұрын
GREAT STUFF GUYS!!
@nicodimus2222
@nicodimus2222 8 жыл бұрын
Optical media is WAY more reliable than hard drives. CD, DVD, blu-ray...all fail much slower over time than hard drives do. You don't have to back up ALL of your images anyway...just the ones that would be really painful to lose, so odds are you don't need 4TB of storage for them.
@thunderrr0
@thunderrr0 8 жыл бұрын
+nicodimus2222 why not just upload them to cloud storage? better option than optical media and HDD's.
@nicodimus2222
@nicodimus2222 8 жыл бұрын
1) All cloud storage is, is a hard drive somewhere else. It's prone to failure exactly like yours is. 2) Cost.
@thunderrr0
@thunderrr0 8 жыл бұрын
+nicodimus2222 i dont exactly agree with the first point. Here's why, say for example if u r using google cloud storage, their hardware is 10x times more robust and failure proof than an average consumer's computer hardware. Also they have many precautionary measures to protect the data on their servers. like they have multiple power supplies in term of power failures. they have data backup and data recovery when some failure happens etc etc measure which an average consumer would never care of doing. Cloud storage is more safe than an average consumer's pc. Trust me you'll never loose your data on cloud storage. Just choose the right cloud data storage. Every single data/thing on internet is on some data server somewhere around the planet. 2) I dont know about how much does the cloud storage cost. but there are sites like mega which provides free 50GB of storage where you can store your important photos just the ones that would be really painful to lose. My college has provided me with free unlimited google drive storage so i need not to worry about the cost. All my stuffs are backedup in cloud.
@jaymann2076
@jaymann2076 6 жыл бұрын
I take photos only to satisfy myself. If I can capture the scene I see in my mind with my camera and a little post work, I am happy. The money thing - I do not like to contaminate my photography with money, so if I happen to sell an image, I donate the funds to charity. This keeps the photography purely for my enjoyment.
@timur7381
@timur7381 8 жыл бұрын
I've always been amazed at the amount of hostility on photography forums. I saw this in video gaming, or movie communities, but didn't expect to see in photography. I guess it's normal in any social environment where everyone is anonymous and detached from another person behind a computer. I'm shooting with a m43 camera, and I've often seen people coming to m43 forums specifically to crap all over the system, prove their righteousness and their system choice. It's pathetic really, why would anyone care what another person you've never met is buying and shooting with? It's almost psychotic lol)
@shainejacob7101
@shainejacob7101 8 жыл бұрын
+Timur Dzhambinov Joining photography groups is the worst thing a photographer can do...unless he needs it for PR purposes. Otherwise, he can happily shoot without the need to assert his credibility and crave for affirmation.
@stevea5985
@stevea5985 5 жыл бұрын
My favorite are the repeated insults and reasons in the raw vs jpeg argument
@SuperDigitalMe
@SuperDigitalMe 8 жыл бұрын
I live in belgium, we have 100mbit too, but only downstream, upload is a meager 5 mbit..... They said they do that otherwise we would set up servers....
@DiegoSartori
@DiegoSartori 8 жыл бұрын
The one thing I find most "troubling" with the photography community, written as well as that on KZfaq (and other outlets), is that people speak about how to take the picture, not how to see the picture, how to be able make a stunning photo out of what is often the most ordinary things. Imagine for a second, a baseball pitch, as it travels towards the plate, it is a perfect curveball, while looking at the ball traveling towards the plate there is absolutely no way to tell which kind of throwing style was used to throw it, it also does not matter, it is a perfect curveball. I personally do not care if an image is taken in manual or full auto, if its a jpeg or a processed raw file, nothing of that can take away from a wonderful photo, and nothing like that should ever take away from a wonderful photo. If I could add one thing I think some photographers should stop doing, then is to stop thinking in likes when they review an image on the back of their camera, if you think in likes when reviewing your images you run a very high risk of ending up taking images for the wrong reasons, and that is going to end up showing in your images. Great show - look forward to the next one.
@shainejacob7101
@shainejacob7101 8 жыл бұрын
+Diego Sartori Your "how to take the picture, not how to see the picture." doesn't really make any sense with your baseball example. Maybe you can elaborate. Better yet, let's see your pictures.
@DiegoSartori
@DiegoSartori 8 жыл бұрын
+Shaine Jacobs the baseball example, it does not matter which arm angle or what grip you use, a perfect curveball is a perfect curveball regardless, just as it does not matter how the picture came about, if it is a good picture it will be a good picture period. just as Mr Kelby said at the start of the show. So rather than think about what gear you have, or don't have, what stance or grip you are using, one should spend time looking for and finding good objects/subjects to photograph. Often a skilled photographer sees an image where the rest if us just walk by and miss it completely. Seeing my images would most likely ruin your day, they really have "a face for radio" but I try to learn and I with time I hope to have something worth showing.
@simracer1256
@simracer1256 7 жыл бұрын
Avast, I then said to Carruthers "Look, I got the blighter!". And we all went home and had bakewell tart and custard.
@808SHIRTS
@808SHIRTS 8 жыл бұрын
Pure AWESOMEness
@williaminbody205
@williaminbody205 4 жыл бұрын
Love the aviation photography.
@mohammedkasim9677
@mohammedkasim9677 8 жыл бұрын
I am a working photographer . with that said -- I say this -- the day photography becomes a job to be -- i will quit and go work in an office.
@paulmoadibe9321
@paulmoadibe9321 8 жыл бұрын
I still have a lot of old photos in shoe boxes
@deepstagesrt4
@deepstagesrt4 8 жыл бұрын
I was listening to this while doing dishes and not actually watching the video. I got kind of excited, because I thought Scott Kelby was talking to John C. Reilly about photography. Turns out it was Moose! Moose talks and sounds like John C. Reilly. #themoreyouknow
@RonComstock
@RonComstock 8 жыл бұрын
RR tracks, selective color ect if you are saying its cliche, whawhawhaaa. how about on the blind critiques you don't start negative with that statement. I would imagine the person who submitted it is wanting critique on the composition and how well they executed the selective color. Could be some people are angry and or critical by what the person they are learning from , like those giving the critique, and think so highly of them that what they say becomes an absolute. Just as you discuss over processing ect. Now I know I don't like it , but also address the rest of the positive about the image also.
@RockyUA1
@RockyUA1 Жыл бұрын
Your grandma makes great cookies…. She must have an expensive OVEN!!
@srlkngl
@srlkngl 8 жыл бұрын
yeah.....you're the man!!
@miavonni
@miavonni 8 жыл бұрын
seriously, I don't think your content is good enough to sit through all of these commercials I mean I understand you're trying to get paid for what you do but this is ridiculous, I doubt if I'll go back and watch the rest of this
@MarcoMoreno5757
@MarcoMoreno5757 8 жыл бұрын
To me, it doesn't make any difference to work with any brand of equipment. I do my photographic jobs with a combination of cameras. I do have nikons and cannon. Yep. other photographers yell "cannon and Nikon together' is just unbelievable.
@mohammedkasim9677
@mohammedkasim9677 8 жыл бұрын
sometime no paying jobs - have worked major events FW to name one -- i would work 14-18 hrs a day - go home work another 4 editing -- sleep on the rrain -- and then not see a dime
@davidholyoake5256
@davidholyoake5256 8 жыл бұрын
Good information. Its not about the tools its how you use them. Example so called pro photographer here, has the latest and greatest of one brand. However doesn't know how to read light, colour balance. And uses "Professional mode" All the time. Theyre not educated at all. However I use a different brand of camera, I know how to use it. And I'm uni educated. One thing I would wish for is a digital camera that has just the basic controls, I don't use any of the auto modes. Yes I have tried the auto modes. Just saying.
@NorbertTukora
@NorbertTukora 8 жыл бұрын
Trying to fit the title in a tweet I see... :D
@paddykeogh511
@paddykeogh511 6 жыл бұрын
i would like to know if you are and it seemes you are on the books of Nikon or Canon the way you speak
@Sweden2023
@Sweden2023 8 жыл бұрын
That was XLnt.
@AdrianJNyaoi
@AdrianJNyaoi 8 жыл бұрын
Ha ha ha there is the Angry Photographer in KZfaq....his channel is all about "hey listen to me, everyone else is wrong"
@stevea5985
@stevea5985 5 жыл бұрын
Adrian J Nyaoi and people do that his word is gosple
@jasonpakkala9015
@jasonpakkala9015 8 жыл бұрын
I'm going to be angry here.... It bugs me that you have different water brands.
@SuperLumberjock
@SuperLumberjock 8 жыл бұрын
Moose!!!!!!!!!!
@HenryPiffpaff
@HenryPiffpaff 7 жыл бұрын
Would someone be so kind as to list the 10 things they name in that video? Thanks! (1.5 hours, come on!)
@FrankEmil007
@FrankEmil007 8 жыл бұрын
I really miss RC on the show!!!
@eccentricsmithy2746
@eccentricsmithy2746 7 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately even if you find a way to stand out, others will steal your technique the very next day and the next thing you know everyone is doing it and you are once again looking the same as everyone else. Fios isnt that great, I have a different provider and it blows the doors off of verizon.
@brianhudson5807
@brianhudson5807 7 жыл бұрын
Cut the chat. You could say what you have to say in 9 minutes never mind 90.
@eccentricsmithy2746
@eccentricsmithy2746 7 жыл бұрын
Title says 10 things, they did like 5 and got sidetracked.
@williamflynn5409
@williamflynn5409 7 жыл бұрын
I just watched this again for the second time.......I have a whole wall of b\w dead trees shot at the Grand Canyon.....huh.......oh well....I like them........
@mohammedkasim9677
@mohammedkasim9677 8 жыл бұрын
I don't want to be rich or famous - i want to make enough money to be comfortable
@TrailerKeller
@TrailerKeller 8 жыл бұрын
Me to bro I'm trying to be a professional photographer and I do admit I do get angry with my outcomes sometimes but I also realize that I can't always be wining.
@mohammedkasim9677
@mohammedkasim9677 8 жыл бұрын
I JUST WANT TO WIN ONCE IN A WHILE
@RoseKerin
@RoseKerin 8 жыл бұрын
We like our Railway tracks here. Lots of Steam Trains. There is some bull here! Typical.
@macallanvintage
@macallanvintage 2 жыл бұрын
There is no camera brand called Ny-Khan It is NEE-CON (as in con-man) Americans wanting to appear “professional” and authoritative should at least learn how to properly pronounce a brandname.
@jimbugs12
@jimbugs12 2 жыл бұрын
i don’t know Scott …… the guitar folks aren’t innocent either- your strings suck les paul is to heavy for the stage i can’t play that guitar, it’s tone sucks i only use locking tuners etc. 😂😂😂😂
@motoninja2747
@motoninja2747 8 жыл бұрын
far too long
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