Builds shown in this video: Arc: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fKtkmsmTz9S4d2g.html Mjölner: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ZsVmipeAxqioe6s.html Lacerate: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hNyIpsVksrG3h6s.html

Nr. 11.: DO NOT use Atziri's promise when your build has a) Avatar of Fire, or b) brutality on your main-links.

But Yoji.... It took me 3 months theorycrafting that warcry bleed impale max block max dodge armor-stacking CI CoC CwC CoMK animate weapon firestorm dominating blow saboteur build on PoB (work in progress, ofc)!

Let's see. 1 - Flasks; yup i fail to remember this. 2 - Pantheon; lol, in t16 maps and still haven't bothered to even open it. 4 - Upgrades; important to know, but the build shouldn't rely on them, when the build relies on an influenced (or double) mod then the build will feel crap until that piece has been obtained. 5 - Passive Tree; didn't know about the heat map, thanks, this should help me heaps. 6 - Too Many Mechanics; lol all my old builds that failed. 7 - Follow Guide; best way to learn, follow exactly, choose one within a realising budget. 9 - Giving Up and Rerolling; my current biggest issue, there are so many builds I want to try and its so tempting to reroll, but that's not how you get rich or kill end game bosses. Good video. Makes me see my errors. #9 was a big issue for me this league.

2. When divine vessels start dropping again, i'll start upgrading the pantheon

My favorite example of no 7 from a rl friend: Me: Why'd you path all the way to get zealots oath? Him: cause the build I copied had it Me: why do you have zero life Regen? Him: I went es. I don't need it. Me: umm ok.

#7 is great advice. Lots of builds can be completely fucked by changing just one skill point or item. Even after 8 years of playing I still only change small parts of builds for personal taste. People like Esoro do such amazing guides there's little reason to change much of them.

These are good tips, I used to struggle with some of these so I think they will be helpful. I followed a guide and wasn’t exact for Rf and it wasn’t working. It was Demi’s safest lemon. Now after years I have improved it after getting it right. With much more damage and adaptable survivability then even his original build.

I used to have each and every single one of these problems. I fixed it by uninstalling the game!

I remember last league wondering why my impale champion did no dmg then when I got some currency and went to buy some boots and gloves I realize I was using a Hrimsorrow 50% convert to cold and the boots that convert 30% to lightning and btw I was using the gem that says deal no elemental dmg. Damn i was blind

using path of building community really helped me understand where the power/defence come frome. the game doesn't provide enough detail on what's going on when switching items/skills

Yoji: "players modify builds and thats why they underperform" me, thinking: "eh, what could be so terrible to remove on a build for it to be absolute garbage" Yoji: "I dropped impale to invest into defences" me: "OH LAWD"

Some pretty good tips here. Keeping in mind which mod you should be looking for for future upgrades is definitely something I should be doing but wasn't. Looking at similar builds on poe ninja is certainly very useful.

You forgot to mention vaal orb on jewels for things like cannot be affected by corrupted blood, silenced, etc. Makes a huge difference in gameplay and flask selection.

This is really good ❤️. Learned a lot about Bruno Mars

I was "inspired" by an arc build last season. And loved it. I wanted to go a completely different route and tried a strength tectonic slam build. For a lg. Portion of it I was like how does these even get on the list of great builds. I get one unique. And BOOM!! DPS and crowd control is a breeze. Following a guide is key. I agree with you. Thanks for the vid also

Phenomenal video, I definetly had some flashbacks to my first league where I did about 50% of those mistakes xD Good thing I chose to research instead and got a lot better :D

Likes and Comment are good for:algorithm. Yoji is good for:lowering stress levels, increasing overall fun, memes, extended friends and family, PoE builds, KZfaq quality, having a good day, your pet, human psychology... :D

Agree! Absolutely! Thanks for sharing your great knowledge. 😊 Stay healthy and have a great day. 🤗

i played this game for almost 2years and i did 5/10 mistakes every league, except the The Overflowing Chalice . thanks man it enlighten me. double thumbs up

Thank you! Exactly what I needed

Huh, learn something each day. I did not know about heat map feature.

11 DONT RE ROLL 20 TIMES A LEAGUE

Good to have you back :)

This video kinda inspires me to make a few tutorials even though I know I dont have all the answers, but what i do know holds value. I've found most of the videos I search for on KZfaq are made by foreigners or is very easy to get lost, or both. POE education is a hard thing to tackle. Simpler breakdowns are like this is what players need. 💜

good advice ,i came across the same issues when doing build reviews aswell

Yoji, I really hope you see this. I just want you to know the absolutely IMMENSE amount of knowledge I gained from your single video compared to two or three videos of anyone else’s that I’ve seen thus far. I know, I know, this video is two years old now. But honestly, your video was played out like an A+ plus college grad paper. You gave us resource after resource after resource with direct connection to them with relevant links. The information you provided was delivered in a most timely and concise manner and was everything we needed to know and the only things we needed to know. Not to mention your accent is charming lol. I instantly subscribed. Your videos are exactly what I’ve been looking for this whole time. Doesn’t matter if the video is even relevant to what I’m looking for, as soon as it starts I think to myself “Yep, I am watching the whole thing.” Thank you so much for your Content lol. I look forward to further exploring your channel. Cheers, my dude!😊

GASP! Tip no. 1, quality and roll your Divener Strong Box! It just happened to be at the beginning of the video when you said “most common mistakes...”

This helped out more than I thought it would. The points of trying to do too many things at once and giving up too soon im extremely guilty of. Every single league. I started with a penance brand elementalist and felt squishy in maps, so I rolled a rf jugg and felt like I killed too slowly, so I rerolled again to a Generals cry chieftain w/ consecrated path(which honestly feels like a balance of the 2 and is kind of interesting) and I've only been playing this league for maybe a month now. I need to start investing more time into a character instead of rerolling at the first sign of trouble and wondering why im always broke.

Hey thanks for the tips. Really appreciate it.

i was building a Zombiemancer and following TbXie's build guide. Except I was super squishy and wasn't clearing as fast as I'd like. Turns out investing into a large cluster jewel and not Glancing Blows and +%Life, and adding skeletons, phantasms, blight instead of cyclone, and my other ideas for gems was the problem. After watching this video and deciding the follow the guide faithfully, this improved my survivability and clear speed a great deal. Thanks ItsYoji!

Overflowing Chalice is a very common result for the beastcraft unique flask from Einhar. It’s likely many players very first unique flask.

Flasks: taking things a step further suffixes are usually interchangable because they jsut grant an immunity, so jsut go for suffixes you dont have yet. good immunities are bleeding/corrblood, ignite, poison and reduced curse effects (because auras constantly apply the remove curse on use is bad) and if you roll a good prefix you can jsut slap any one of these on at einhart item level matters for what prefixes/suffixes you can get You can buy baubles for 8 whetstones at any blacksmith scour to make white (only ciosts 4/32 whetstone per white flask) i allways do this with high level flasks form the ground, when fixed up they can sell for ~30 chaos. ones with just a desirable prefix I can usually slow sell for more than prefix+suffix because they can get the suffix they need form einhart again, thats 1 scour, 4 baubles,(32 whetstone) 1 transmute,~10 alts for the prefix/prefix+suffix you need then enchant the suffix at einhart, shouldnt take long most high knowlege players dont dally with this stuff, but your average joe and starters can make a lot of chaos early on jsut by doing flasks in downtime while waiting for replies and its a bit of fun cheap gambling.

Fantastic tips, thank you!

The only thing I'm doing right is not having a chalice lol

How to learn tips №1 & №2 the hard way - go underground. At some point every build will encounter hard mods, which can be bypassed via flasks immunities or reduced by pantheon powers. It can be 1ex build or 100ex build, it can be depth 200 or 1000 - sooner or later your "powerful" char gonna be butchered. Delve provides strong challenge, its great a way to explore your weak points. btw, surprised not to hear about ailm immunity - i think its quite strong layer of defence.

Playing the game for 6k hours now. Made a CI COC build like every other league. After i craftet almost every influence item i needed, i still only had 4k es. Took me 4 hours looking at gear/ Tree to figure out that Acrobatics Node on the Tree has 30% less ES..... Even with decent game knowledge you make common mistakes. Great Video :)

Not gonna lie I had no idea about that gemcutter + skill gem recipe. You have changed my life sir.

I think the greatest wall... Is playing SSF, without any deep knowledge of crafting

Made my first char into lvl 70(still getting into the basics). Basically, there was a loud "DOUGH" on the start of most of these tips. Thanks!

Bout to run a magma orb build this league; so honestly this video helped me out really well.

Thank dude, some good info here for the returning player.

oddly enough i seem to fall into some of those mistake so thank you. for the info will fix some areas

5:42 PLEASE do as he says, i am tired of people who come to me and says that they followed one of my builds and that it sucks only to find out that they are not even using half of the items i recommended lol

"Man, 300K boss dps feels like trash." Sees build that 1.4 million boss dps on same budget Having Fun - Feels Better Man after switching "I wish this could be better." Sees build that hit 10 million on the same budget 300K vs 10 M - Feels Bad Man There's a reason certain things are meta.

The first time playing this game, I made a reckoning / riposte / whateverelsechancetohitback just picking up anything shield and defensive related stuff, with molten shield? can't remember it's been so long. I had a lot of fun watching everything hitting themselves and ragdoll away from my character, probably should try something around that again.

I actually was lazy with my flasks until yesterday when my friend inspected them and inspired me to buy cinder flask and unique ruby flask. Which made my build even more viable. I still need to fix my pantheons though...

How to spot a crappy build: 1. Has Rotgut and Overflowing chalice equipped. 2. Has 3 life flasks 1 mana flask 1 quicksilver with no prefixes or suffixes (or ones that don't work for the build like attack speed on a caster), and life flasks cap at lvl 42. 3. Has no life on items and is not an energy shield build. 4. Has multitude of active skills with 0-2 support gems on them and no "main" 5-link or 6-link. 5. Fills out every passive point in the starting quadrant and doesn't branch out. That also leads to having maybe 40% increased life from passives tops. 6. Does not get required stats for the build to function (for example a cast on crit build with 20% crit chance and no cooldown reduction).

I like this video, Alot of others are about 5m dps easy key 10k life, I don't wanna dominate the game I just wanna play and access all the content. Lots of ideas here I can look at especially the item and tree lookup.

Number 9 is so relatable. This league I started playing a miner build without ever playing any mine builds, heck I didn't even know the difference between mines and traps. I still have no idea how some mechanics like traps or brands work at all, but that's beside the point. When I was leveling up I decided to straight out invest into ES gear despite the guide stating that I should go to life gear first and later transform into low life high ES build. I managed to clear the campaing pretty easily after I learned how mines work, and how absurd the dps can be, but I was quite squishy, having about 2k or 3k ES, low life, and chaos damage did go through my ES which killed me quite a few times in many rituals. First bandaid solution I used was CI, but I lost a bit of damage since I couldn't use my health to reserve one aura. Yes, one aura, since I didn't have Prism Guardian back then too. I just kept on grinding nothing but tier 1 maps first so I could have some stockpile of resources to progress forward while I was leveling myself and my gems up. Well at level 74 I dropped a random Void divination card, which gave me Shavronnes wrappings. How goddamn lucky is that? I felt like I've been touched by Steelmage or something... Well after that initial kick of luck, I found multiple exalts and about 200 chaos orbs in 3 days just by running mostly tier 1 maps, and then I decided that it would be high time to take the next step and start buing the uniques my build more or less needed, my ES jumped up to 5k and I probably tripled my damage output so I was able to jump from running t1 maps all the way up to t12. I was able to run all the way up to t16, but my damage was lacking a bit, but just more grinding up levels, learning the build throughly how it works, getting my body armor 6-link and some other minor gear upgrades, and now I'm at 7k ES which is still not much by tanky standards, but the build with those uniques caps out around 8k.. More importantly, the only end game fights that have caused some trouble for me are Uber Atziri and Sirus, but that's just problem with the player, the build can handle anything. Not to mention my build isn't even complete yet, but I'm at the point where the guide kind of ends, and I have to figure out my own how to progress. Well, one last thing according to guide that I'm missing is taste of hate, but to get that I'd need to give up poison immunity flask. I have all resistances capped (including chaos, lulz, Al-Hezmin goes Reeee) so maybe losing poison immunity isn't that big of a deal. Of course there's always room for improvements in gear, for me mainly it's better Crystal belt and amethyst ring, but I'm just stuck because Augment Chaos modifier just isn't showing up in harvests, and I'm not even sure if that kind of modifier does exist.. Still if I get that, I can get chaos res on my gloves which will cause a domino effect on my having gear upgrades one after another. I really don't want to give up on my capped chaos res :D

New sub, I love what you’re doing :)

My buddy had a build that wasn't really working for him so I took a look and noticed the build used a bunch of fortify nodes but didn't use fortify, upon further inspection the build guide had a 2h weapon 6l double corrupted with socketed gems are supported with fortify. Since he didn't have the 50EX for that weapon I told him to put fortify in his 6l. He was kinda set up for failure on that one.

An off topic but i think a needed one, could be possible ti do a tier list of builds based on how much time per day or week one has?not all players are pro and helping casuals it does help the game.Much love❤

Thanks for the video Yoji, as a newish player I appreciate all the help I can get. I am having a much better time in Heist just by focusing on one thing and slavishly following a single guide, but I do have a genuine question. Basically all of my gems will hit level 20 at the same time, how do I manage the transition to 20% quality - do them a few at a time or just take the hit and grind lower maps again?

But Yoji, #9 is direct cause of the huge randomization of drops. When you don't want to trade because you actually want to progress on your own or are SSF, and especially if you are new - you have no idea what to grind, some things randomly kill you...you don't have damage...you just feel like you have no control or purpose. Harvest is the first league I stayed with my first character(first time I killed Sirus) and actually feel I progress. I don't care that it's "too powerful" or "too easy to craft"...it should be. It is stupid that only the top 10% can actually engage in the RNG crafting and all others are just left to the stupid "not AH"...AH Sorry for rant - love the content :)

so im building a necromancer, been following several guides, just a big wonder is aura thing really a must? or is there a choice of afk necromancer? where it might work on all content? idk much, just level 80 and only started mapping

Hey Yoji, could you make updated build for hallowed Pizza Sticks? (Flameblast totems) I haven't seen one done properly in years.

for the gem : a corrupted level 20 quality ~20 is generally cheap. you can buy one for your main spell at around 5 chaos.

thank you, i needed to hear N. 9

The part about the chalice hit a little bit too close to home for me xD PS: but youjji, how else am i supposed to get 40% bonus damage AND consecrated ground? :babyrage:

Lol Mr Miyagi. That's who I think of whenever mentioning focus. Focus Daniel San!

7:20 as a “new” (not actually new but I play VERY casually so im still horribly shit at this game) player let me explain: A lot of new players dont understand the value of flasks. They often also have duplicates (I ran with 2 Health, 2 mana, 1 speed flask for the longest time). Or just not a lot of good flasks. If they DO have good flasks (or follow a guide) they think “well flasks are good but the only weakness is that they migt run out of charge. So ill take this this other flask that helps keep existing flasks up easier so its kind of like an infinite loop of never running out of charges”. Also forgot to mention: we suck at flask Managment because we are so focused on dodging and it sounds/feels ridiculous to mash 2,3,4,5 every 10 seconds. I only learned the value after an experienced player told me to bug an atziri’s promise for a divine ite build and told me to spam it. It instantly fixed both my damage and health recovery problems.

Can confirm, first build was Yoji's flameblast elementalist. Followed it to the last point. Got into red maps, as my first build. FOLLOW THE GUIDES!!!

Apart from the poe.ninja these tips are for mapping level of the game rather than how to avoid mistakes im currently making or working towards. Explaining passive tree bait nodes or how things actually work rather than the descriptions work would be better, the overflowing cup bait was good but thats not easy to get early on when mistakes could be avoided

What's the lightning build in the final 90 seconds of the video? Looks like a lot of fun.

My friend was complaining about his build. No life on half his gear and playing melee. 4 flasks with bleed but no freeze or warding. 2 life flasks but no lions roar or at least a basalt. Using a staff but didn't take any block nodes or glancing blows. 23% phys damage reduction and 6% block attack chance. Says he was following a guide. Guide has way different gear.

I do sometimes mess with build guides but when I do I always tell the guide creator why I think it will benefit the build and ask if I've had an oversight that will break the shit out of the build before actually applying the changed :') You'd be surprised how many (written) guide creators actually respond to open suggestions and questions on their builds. After all, if you did manage to find an improvement they could adopt it into their own guide and everyone gets smarter in the progress. Also usually changes I tend to make are minor stuff like movement skills or budget alternatives and not really keystone passives or ascendancies which are far more likely to actually break the build. An example of this would be Assassins Garb vs Zodiac Leather. Oftentimes if you pick a full evasion base you will already use enough dexterity to make up for the extra requirement on the Zodiac Leather. So if your character is not struggling with movement speed you often pay a lot less and even get a little extra evasion in the process. Movement speed is of course also related to your ability to dodge things and your clear speed, so in the long run Assassin's Garb will be indeed the better investment. But for a player on a tight budget, I really don't think it's worth the difference. If you need the 3 months a league lasts to farm the currency to complete your build, just save the few ex this way and spend them on some more damage or defensive stats (whichever you lack most). You'll be able to clear higher content earlier and you'll make your money back that way instead of clearing content faster. Odds are if you're struggling that much to make currency you won't be using the +3% movespeed (6% total cus I see no penalty in tooltip??) efficiently enough to make it worth your money anyway.

It helped....Thank you!

Thx man, good vid

Good video. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. I'm playing cold DoT elementalist this Crucible league. Don't know almost anything about the game, just reached tier 15 maps but I'm dying so much. Can't even level up (I'm lvl 91) cuz any pack of mobs in the map can just one shot me if i make a mistake. But i didn't know about the pantheon, I'll go after it, perhaps it's what it needs to build to stop fkin dying every 3 minutes damn

Really helpful thank man

so many of these are so accurate it's kinda insane, I started my first character as an ED contagion trickster, then i got herald of agony and though it was cool, i stopped scaling chaos, and went into poison, then got a really good armor unique (belly of the beast, i was new, dont judge) and transition partially into armor, then i hit act 5 and innocence 1 shot me over 10 times in the fight

The moment at 1:43, when you see Taric, you know he's right. Gems are TRULY OUTRAGEOUS!

Got me with n°8. First time I played a few years ago, I got overflowing chalice in like act3. Thought "wow a unique and 40% increased damage, this is some OP shit" and proceded to keep it until I rerolled.

As a newer player I do use a Overflowing Chalice, what seems to be the issue with it exactly? 40% damage feels like it should be something really good

Another tipp i could give is getting multiple layers of defense. (Example: cast on damage taken defensive setup, cold damage, dodge, block, blind, a lot of life/es, etc.) One mechanic alone is not enough modt of the time. It allows you to have failsaves and to run better maps. Oh, and just keep playing around in path of building to see what items/nodes could give you more damage/defense or what is unnecessary. Never trust the ingame damagenumbers! They are horrible.

I usually have the issue of too few life (I like to start with Archer or Shadow) and thus being pretty squishy until i hit a certain benchmark of avoidance. :D

My 2cents to supplement this, as a player that appreciates SSF, but crawls back to traders who are sometimes dead from the neck up: If you have the tabs or tab space in a tab, set aside found flasks and gems with quality there! Misc. quality(superior) flasks and gems can be vendor recipe'd for GCPs and baubles (iirc, its 40q quality TOTAL/minimum for one GCP/Bauble). wiki for more info. Hillock isn't always going to slot into research hideouts, but make that roid-rage wall a boss if so. He's got IMPRESSIVE LUNGS. *hits like on vid*

just updated my pantheon on my lvl 90 ssf hc trickster :)

i rerolled as an ice shot deadeye and had a blast leveling, but i hit a wall in T1 maps and I didn't know why because I had already my endgame weapon and armor, with links. Turns out attack based characters get a good chunk of damage from belt and amulet, i was just too lazy to get temporary 1-3c rares. I also got resistances and life everywhere. Another problem was the passive tree as most poe ninja ice shot characters are using HH, Farrul's Fur or dex stacking uniques.I used all my refund points to get crucial nodes. I went from struggling in T1 to thriving in T12 in one night and now i can do T16 after leveling up.

I totally need to keep tip 6 in my mind... This league I started a champion because I wanted to try out the new warcries with the new impaler keystone and a strong and slow one hit skill... so I went with vigiliant strike. And to do something while the cooldown is active I put in dominating strike, so I also did a minion build and minion builds need auras... Quit early I already thrown away the impaler keystone... cause it is useless crap. You need to hit for sure every 4 seconds with your strongest attack and a high roled damage. Vigilant strike with 3 warcries (ancestral, rallying and intimidating) could do that, but you need to time everything, and if you do it perfectly most bosses already lost half their life with the hit if they haven't killed you while building up the warcries. So I stick to normal impale and played this way up to act 8 with level 66, when i noticed that I haven't yet reached any minion cluster in the templar area. So I decided to screw the whole idea and go with something that works. Now it is a classic and boring impale cyclone champion with a two handed axe, herald of purity, pride, the stance auras and both banners. And I nearly throw away all the warcries except my personal, instant "fortification warcry", and I have fun

my biggest problem in HC POE is that unless I'm playing a Marauder, i never feel like I can get enough damage and life to climb out of white maps. Every character has trouble with metamorphs and with bosses, but ALSO isn't tanky enough to survive those fights. It always feels like launch D3, where I cannot clear T1 unless I already have good gear found in T2.

This video is very true, I couldn't kill uber and blamed the build. Then someone pointed out I didn't have any immunity to being frozen. I made that change and went from unable to do him to farming him.

My 2 biggest issues: Time and not using flasks as often as I should. But when I copy a build I'm too lazy to change it up or don't have the time to but either way I'm not gonna blame the build because I can't remember to push certain buttons.

Number 10 is the single most important tip for new and seasoned players to really push a character to the max.

I'm yoloing a wintertide build without pob rn. Its rocking so hard I was like "this will be funny but wont apply to me" ...I got the right suffixs on my flasks at least... lol. But my tree is just fine ty.

Overflowing chalice shows up sometimes when you search by DPS in pob

Thank you Arnold

Number one got me good. Got my first Sirus kill this league and I'm still running triple quicksilver with no affixes 🤣

It showed up in my notification I watched. And tbh I'm glad to be no concerned about most of these points Still need to finish my pantheon but I started work on it since the main problem of my build is survivability and pantheon is free defensive nodes. And without even finishing upgrading them I stopped dying every 5 maps so it work. Upgrade your pantheon it's worth. (Now my problem is an hardware one since all my recent deaths come from a freeze on a legion or delirium. With 2 fps it's not easy to dodge anything)

Yeah I know people who have blindly copied a build without understanding where their damage or defence is coming from, therefore cannot fix these when they hit a bottleneck. A good list!

You reckon my CI lacerate CoC shock nova endurance charge stacking juggernaut stands a chance or no?

I feel attacked about the overflowing chalice remark. I loved that thing when I was just getting started because I thought the damage was so good, then I realized it did nothing after I learned what the difference between a more multiplier and increased multiplier.

thousand of hours into poe and i cant even kill sirus. anyone would be willing to help?

Tip number X: Be wary of our map mods! If your character lacks damage it's a bad idea to roll enemy damage reduction mods - and if you have a squsihy character, don't roll increased enemy damage mods.

Some low budget tipps. Corruptet 20/20 gems are cheap. Don't craft items until you have enough currency. There is good gear quite cheap in market.

i allways forget divine vessels, because its so hard to see in the atlas what maps i have to run for the boni( they mix it up to often and still dont just point out in the overlay of panteons were the bosses are located) aaand... for example my last ssf session character lvl 92 in trasnition to tier 14-16 maps and only 2 vessels dropped so far...

Jesus, I've played since PoE's pre-Steam days and I'm still guilty of far more of these than I really want to admit. Especially 1, 4, and 6. I'm unapologetic about overcomplicated builds, though. I have a pathological need to make one every league I play. I just understand that the vast majority will fail. (For example, this league I decided that I wanted to see if the stun change to cyclone was secretly a buff, so I have a reverse knockback cyclone, cast when stunned (stun based on ES, of which I have almost none), elemental equilibrium, righteous fire, charge generation trickster that uses discharge for single target damage on weapon swap. It probably says a lot that this is one of the *more* functional results, and that my first target for improvement is cutting a mechanic (reverse knockback).)

What is that purple effect when you crit?

"No. 9: Give your builds more time - Stick to the build and make it work" I todays PoE this is pretty much the absolute mayor reason any build wouldn't work. I stopped counting how many times my friends gave up on their builds when their gems barely hit level 18 (if at all) and then stating their build doesn't work... There is so much power in gem levels these days that literally any build can work if only you fight through those painful times where you feel a bit underwhelming... Many more times I've also seen player giving up on a build just because they don't clear 3 screens at a time - as all those streamers do - and therefore call those builds a fail. Heck, I have a friend that has yet to reach level 90 on any frikking given character....