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No what happens is nobody can go to sleep and are going crazy but the daughter drowns while the event is happening and is revived so she is the only one that can sleep

Plus saying he was the obvious one to turn on the rest basically needs you to have ignored EVERYTHING about Druig

Technically the original plan was to protect humanity. Only he and Ajak knew the truth about the real plan.

Icarus gives me serious amazon Homelander vibes

I agree. I felt bad but at the same time he stuck to his guns lol

Yes he stuck to the original plan but I wouldn’t say the others were turn coats either bc they always have their memories erased and they did what they were told to do create life and watch it bloom

Not really. I mean the Baroness actually was actually Cruella's mother

No. It'd be way more interesting if she earned it, instead of a twist where she is simply (from a legal standpoint, not personal) given it.

REALLY? cause it was REALL freaking obvious from the trailers that was what was going on (at least that she went to prison for protecting her sister the trailer actually impled the sheriff was molesting her sister)

@@WardNightstone I didn’t see any trailers for it. I just heard people talking about it so I decided to give it a watch. I literally went in there blind lol.

I think the scene where it's exposed is well acted, but like the secret evil parent, the wrongfully convicted being punished the whole movie isn't as good as Shawshank, and other movies that attempt fall flat a lot. The premise without the twist was far more interesting.

I didn't see any trailers for it and thought it was a great plot twist.

Yup.

Yea. I felt no way is he already done here.

Aye, When they’re trying to compete with marvel their checks hit different!😎💰

This is accurate. My Mom loves the Village and that movie just ticks me off.

@@arleedennis791 it starts off so good! The atmosphere is great, and then M. Night just decides to kneecap it with the lamest self insert twist. I saw it at the cinema and there were audible groans lol

@@OGTalon it's not as bad as The Happening though....

Hell, even Sleepaway Camp understood this.

Well said.

Yeah but their mission was unethical so that makes him a villain by wanting to carry it out. So he definitely betrayed them by not following the path of righteousness.

@@OversoulGaming Debatable.

Are you suggesting that they shouldn’t exhibit free will and make their own moral and ethical choices? I keep seeing a lot of comments here like “well, he was just doing what he was told to do/what he was built to do” and “he’s sticking to his guns/plan”-ignoring the idea that (hear me out) maybe one can make their own decisions on whether it is right to participate in casing the deaths of 8 billion people.

I mean, their given mission was to protect Earth; they stuck with that. Their secret mission was to destroy Earth, but it was so secret even *they* didn't know about it. Given they weren't assigned that second, secret, mission, given that it was contrary to the mission they were actually assigned, I reject that argument.

@@OversoulGaming I stand with ikarus.

Yeah I liked it

I'm starting to ponder why I keep watching WhatCulture content. Almost every time I disagree with most they say about the movies I personally watched. I thought The Unforgivable was a great movie, with a holy f plot-twist. Maybe their content is written by a Z-generation, without any children or commitments. Maybe it's time to bow out...

I would not say that was a bad plot twist.

to obvious to to a twist.

I think it's twisting from it's original premise, to another type of "wrongfully convicted gets punished for a chunk of the movie" is getting old, and like Star Wars to secret evil parents, doing this usually feels like a cheap imitation of Shawshank, and I've seen other forgettable movies try and not do a good job.

I called it soon as I saw the scene. You don't kill sebastian Stan off screen

yup ironicly the first Mission impossible did that better

I don’t really think they wanted the audience to believe he was dead though. It was too obvious for it to be that way especially since they marketed it the way they did.

@@davionwilliams4011 i called it as soon as I saw Sebastian Stan was in the film. Terrible film

I know right? I hate how they put the twist first then the name of the movie, why not do the opposite?

Just dont watch it

@@023Whiplash do opinions like this add anything to the conversation? They're asking for the bare minimum and your opinion is don't support the channel you enjoy because they might spoil a thing you haven't seen yet or maybe even heard of?

lol bro what did you expect

Same feels on this one. It felt like he was a puppet on strings, he possibly made a deal with his creator (it may not be established that he couldn't) but to save the others, he probably took a pact unbeknownst to be a puppet causing death and destruction, betrayal, and possibly the end of existence. The turn around being, he had to become something he dispised. Aside from the creatures evolving, being one of the Eternals does not come without risk or sacrifice, even for the greater good. Plus what we learn later, everything falls apart within all of them. But a chance to help save humanity, his flight to the sun saves others from a worse fate that he brought unwillingly. Also Arishem is known to manipulate and control within the cosmic universe. Making his creations puppets is not out of the question. Free will is a gift. Until broken.

Yea I thought it was a pretty disappointing movie, but not because of the plot twist. It was just a jumbled mess of characters that tried to tell a little bit of too many stories and ended up not telling enough of any story.

I also thought Druig was going to be the turncoat, especially with the scene set during the fall of the Incan Empire (Yes I know the city has a name but I suck at English spelling, let alone ancient Central American languages!), and his hostile interactions with the other Eternals. Although a small part of me thought KINGO of all people would be the bad guy. Hey, you watch enough horror movies and you stop trusting the silly/harmless guy

I agree as well and there was nothing cringe about it. I stayed away from trailers and was surprised when the villain turned out to be Ikaris. Ultimately, how else was he supposed to die?

Seriously, what's cringe about watching a guy's world be shattered because not killing his girlfriend led to the death of a God? Ikaris was a very faithful believer in their cause, of course he's gonna get suicidal when he just helped such an abomination happen to one of their creators.

I also felt it was well set up earlier in the movie. If you were paying attention, it's not surprising, and follows the breadcrumbs leading up to it.

Yaaaaaas I agree

Terrible movie

@@wallcity318 I can not agree to that but you are free to it

@@bosslogo6948 it had some tone issues, and it didnt set up how the person in that movie becomes the character from 101. Maybe thats what they were aiming for with revealing who her "mom" was and where her hatred for dalmatians came from but i dunno. I could be over thinking it, im 34 judging a movie that i took my 11yr old who it was made for to see

I agree. Too many movies have a twist just for the sake of having one

You didn’t like Unbreakable? Didn’t like that twist?

Fight Club twist is still one of the best plot twist I've watched, like damn they killed it. I also liked the usual suspect twist

This was exactly my thought on watching this video.

When they’re trying to compete with marvel their checks hit different and that’s all that matters.😎💰

I'm just waiting for a horror movie where the 2m tall killer is revealed to be 2 kids standing on each others shoulders under a raincoat

@@matman000000 LOL that's hilarious!

Well the Sweetgirl twist wasn't so terrible, but it's how she was able to kill the villain befuddled me.

That one was a complete garbage

The definition of plot twist is literally "an unexpected development." If you can see it coming, it has failed as twist.

​​@@NickCorbinProductions That's not true. Plus its faulty logic, by your own reasoning good plot twists that highly regarded can't be good if new viewers see it coming. Whole point of plot twist is to recontextlize the entire journey of the narrative. Meaning the twist has make sense not a random asspull. Your exact thinking is why most mainstream movies now have garbage writing.

I hear that. Its like they all think every movie has to have a twist so they always add one whether it makes sense or not. Not all movies need a twist. That being said, a good twist done well is a twist that when you look back at the whole movie it changes perspective. There are WAY too many movies with twists just for the sake of having one, and its either predictable or cheap

This still enrages me

Worst twist of all time

It's not really a betrayal though, he knew how they would react to the knowledge of their mission from the moment he learned about it, 5000 years ago. He separated himself from them 500 years ago once everything was set in motion, to make sure he didn't leak the info, when they might still be able to stop the emergence.

I liked it too

Ya I actually did like it…. Cool concept…. Think they should’ve made room for a sequel…. Make sense of the guy killing pigs…. and how/when the time travel is figured out…. That “Boyd” actor from Logan and Narcos is pretty good is everything he does.

How was it obvious?

I think they killed this iteration of him. In the next movie (if it ever happens...) they will find a fresh version of him in the place they are built / reformatted. The whole "love transcends our memories" stuff they hinted at through the movie. Think this was the setup to a later payoff in that direction. But we will see. You could be right too.

😂😂😂

The trust was predictable but good... it was flying into the sun that pissed me off.

@@CooperAATE I mean Marvel does do those kinds of things usually so I found it kinda cool. I can also see why a lot of people didn't like it.

"Unforgivable" is a good flick, though.

Whatculture lore master?

@@bartekkubicaku-bitsa9802 Cheeky. It's just something I noticed.

I liked everything but him going to get a tan

Twist was fine, him offing himself was super lame

It fit for me because of the Greek mythology to Icarus flying too close to the sun.

It's about 80% successful in movies though, the other 20% is to convey the message that the character trying to revive the dying character can't accept their death, and has to undergo some kind of growing and healing process.

@@markzuckergecko621 true. Also it increases in effectiveness if the character yells “stay with me dammit” or “don’t you die on me.” Ps you got me excited thinking mark zuckerburg was responding to me, but it was even better than I thought, it’s mark zuckergecko

for me is more of a mistery that the military and scientist did every inmoral act they could think of; except trying to reset the brain on one if the monkeys... like ok, don't try killing people but use a lab monkey to see if the EMP had the galnd on a loop and reseting it could help.

@@diabolicpanda That's fair. I suppose the excuse is that they were exhausted and doped up on those stimulants so they weren't thinking straight

I think it's more about the execution.

@@BobbySacamano Fair enough I never watched the movie because I heard it wasn't that good. Which was disappointing because I enjoyed the book.