What do you guys wanna see compete? Crazy to see the difference the diesel Market has made in the last few years!!

Love to see what a 3000 dollar truck does in comparison with 97000 in upgrades. Would be a fun build and test.

For 50x as much money, the results weren’t 50x better 😎

Have had a 1999 F250 7.3 manual for years, still my daily driver. At 307K miles, I’d still trust it across country.

Another thing to consider is the cost of basic repairs once the new truck is off warranty. My diesel mechanic discouraged me from upgrading my pristine 97 Ford 7.3L to a newer truck based on the idea of repair costs long term. The older trucks are so simple with fewer things to go wrong and if a $5 vacuum line goes bad it can all be accessed simply by opening the hood. As my mechanic explained, that $5 vacuum line on a newer truck could cost in excess of $2500-3000 as the entire cab has to be removed to access some locations on the newer trucks. From my perspective, the only reason one pays for the new truck is the prestige factor and the ergonomics and comfort of a new truck. New trucks are quiet, smooth, easy to drive, with tons of cubbie spaces for storage and are outfitted with tons of technology. I ended up keeping the old truck and simply did some sound deadening, added a premium sound system with double DIN head unit to provide an update in technology coupled with a back-up camera and few power mods and I am good to go. Still not as smooth and not as quiet but very happy with the 97. Get tons of compliments everywhere I go.

No matter how you put it, there is never a good reason to buy a truck for $100k when you can get a 2019 for $53k. They RAPIDLY depreciate and are often less reliable than the older models. It’s legitimately proven

Is it better? Yes, is it 100k better? You won't ever convince me it is....

An old man gave me advice one time when I was starting out. Below that is mine. Hope it helps someone. “You can have brand new $100k rig and brand new $40k worth of tools with monthly payments north of $10k, or have used stuff but never take out a loan.” My best advice to anyone starting out at least for construction. The people you want to impress aren’t looking at your truck and how new it is. Buying a brand new truck, rims, extras etc tells everyone “my money goes on my pride and in the truck.” The guys you really want to impress look at 2 things 1: Are his tools kept? Are they clean? Does he throw them around or take care of them? 2: Is his truck clean? Is there trash falling out of it when he rolls up or does he have a nice organizer to keep paperwork, maybe a trash bag too? Now there is something to say going into the upper 6/7 figure market of things sure. There isn’t a whole lot of something though. Do good work, do right by your customers, be professional in ALL circumstances off work and on. Trust me, it’ll take a second to build a client base but you won’t have any issue finding work whatsoever. No one cares about your sound system, rims, how fast it is. They care about the work and if you’re good at it. Me personally, I bootstrapped. All tools were paid off, every truck but the last one I had was paid off, brand new tools, old trailer, older trucks. Not one loan. Took so much stress off of “I need 10k this month to stay afloat!”. Eat your pride, get only what you need, work up. For 2 years I worked out of a single cab 93’ 6.5 diesel. My welding leads were in 5 gallon buckets, my welder was a 02’ bobcat, and I had a grinder, framers square, speed square, 6 total clamps, 1 drill (corded), 1 tape, a punch set, and 2 extension cords that I grabbed out of the trash. All used. By year 3 I built it up to a couple employees, $40k+ in tools, 90% of which were new. This is not a brag, this is me trying to save someone from losing everything if you aren’t careful. You do not need loans, but used. There is nothing wrong with a truck like the ford in this vid as is. You’d be surprised how many people are supportive and will help you out.🤙🏽

I'm a die hard GM fan. However I completely agree with your opinions in the comparison. And yes the old Ford stood her ground and got the job done.

I know I would personally take the old one. To me its really hard to justify the $100k. That and the newer trucks have gotten so big its unreal. Another factor is that if I had a new truck I would be afraid to use it and beat it up. I know I would cry when I saw that first scratch. I like to use my trucks and even though I dont purposefully beat them up, accidents do happen though when working them. My daily is an 86 Dodge D-150 gasser. - Jamie

I drive a 2001 f250 with a manual transmission and a 7.3 diesel . Ill keep That truck until the wheels fall off . Great truck , no payments

A family of 7.3's here. 1999, 2002 and 2003. All with 250-450K plus trouble free miles. Just regular maintenance. I'd drive any of them cross country in a heartbeat. I use my '03 F350 dually to pull our 11K# camper cross country 6 months months out of the year for the past three years and never have an issue. DP Tuner, BTS transmission, Gear Vendors over/under with 4.3 gears. She holds her own!

I have an 02 7.3 Excursion with 357,000 on her. Bought her new off the lot, have kept it maintained and always repaired any issue immediately. I’ve done a lot of proformance upgrades to her over the years as well as replaced all the suspension with F350 Ford factory parts including the 20” king ranch wheels. My buddy’s drive newer trucks and make fun of me for driving an antique. They ask when I’m getting a new one. I tell them it cant be replaced because no one makes anything like it to replace it with. I’ll still be driving mine when there on there 5th new one making upwards of $1000 a month payments. Meanwhile I haven’t had a truck payment in 17 years. Who’s making fun of who when I’m retired at 50 and they’re still working to pay for sh!t. Lol

I’ll take the reliability of an old mechanical 7.3 all day over a new truck

I’m a Chevy guy, but the old ford didn’t do to bad.

The market today is forcing me to consider building a older truck vs being in crazy debt on a new one. I enjoy not having a payment

You'd be damn hard pressed to find a 06 duelie 1 ton for 2k!

It's interesting to see an older truck and how it stacks up against the newer diesel but gotta say the ol 6.0 didn't do to bad.

The thing is what ever floats your boat. If you want a Ford or a Duramax or a Cummins it doesn’t matter, your money, your time, your truck.

This shows they are both worth $2000

Cool video. One thing that should be pointed out is having 10 gears vs 5. That in and of itself is a huge advantage when it comes to putting power to the wheels.

Let’s see what the gmc does after 20 years and a couple hundred thousand miles? For a couple of seconds I’ll put the 100k in my pocket. 😎🇺🇸

You would think the new truck is more reliable but she will still leave you stranded. Lots to go wrong. Def heater, nox sensor, ect. Will limp it out and parts availability is erratic.

Personally, I certainly can’t afford to trade in a $100k truck every 5 years. Anything I own must be easy to work on in my driveway. My old 7.3 Super Duty has been perfect for my needs

For the trailer drop test, it would be nice to see the Ford with brand new leaf springs as I'm pretty sure those ones were original. Denali had brands making you leave springs so more likely it was going to do a lot better.

The brake test would have been pretty much equal if the trailer brakes would have worked on the old one.

I'd love to see this with an additional 40k truck as a mid-tier option to see just where the tipping point is. Does a 40k truck perform the exact same as the 100k truck but just doesn't have 20 cameras and leather seats? Then perhaps a bang-for-your-buck analysis to determine if it is actually worth spending another 60k to get to that 100k truck or even if 40k isn't that big of a difference from 2-3.

Where TF are these $2k diesels being sold?

Gotta be going over 10mph I believe for the trailer brakes on the 06 to work. I thought mine was broken and turned the gain all the way up. Got going down the road and nearly got a face full of steering wheel when I hit the brakes 😂

As long as it has a/c and runs good like that one does. $98K is a lot to pay for a warranty that they can really just decide if they want to cover it or not depends on the cost of whatever breaks

I love the new truck! Ask Taylor Ray about how his warranty worked for his new truck though!

Had a 2004 f350 6.0 for years! 305k miles when I traded her in. Miss her so much. Now I drive 2014 LML duramax. Love her even more!

Perfect Tests, really informative. Would love to see this test with an older duramax and 12 valve vs the 100k truck

Great video! I really appreciate the fairness and the amount of context you put into explaining the differences. Felt very fair and unbiased.

I'm leaning towards the old truck simply because one day the warranty will be dropped on the new truck which then isn't going to justify the $100k price tag once things start breaking after warranty you can find parts for the old trucks pretty much in most backyards it's the complete opposite for the new ones

Used to watch a neighbour drive to work in his F250 for years , always saw him doing oil changes, had the usual patina.He went to trade it in prior to the Covd scenario and was getting offered peanuts for it.I bought it and have never looked back, it owes me nothing they only thing I’ve replaced is a starter, got a second hand one, and a set of used tires off Face Book

I bought a '24 3500 AT4 early May and you'd have to pry it out of my cold dead hands. I've had an '01, '06, and '11 Super Duty along with a '16 Ram. I've like each subsequent truck more than the previous. I enjoy the creature comforts, ride quality improvements, and increased power along with the drivability that comes with it. The increased payload capacities with the newer trucks has been nice to have as well.

The new trucks are beautiful. But as far as longevity and costs for repairs you’ll never ever beat that 06. I don’t see these new trucks going 20+ years like the 06 without major money being put into them. If you put 250,000 on one of these new trucks in a four year span I would think for that money it should do it, but mileage and time are two different animals.

Just refreshed my 07 with new heads, lifters, push rods, new turbo, injectors, gaskets bottom up and she runs absolutely amazing.ill keep it any day over a 1400 month payment

Ive got $25k in my 88 F250 7.3 idi supercab long bed 4x4. Has a Gearvendors OD unit on it, 4.10 gears, and bronco bucket seats. New paint, starts up, stops, hauls, pulls, does everything I need it to. I bought a $6k International Loadstar 1600 for heavier towing.

Those 6.0 never last long but with a few modifications, they are pretty quick. Great video.

interesting what you said about being stranded on a road trip, because a warranty doesn't really do you any good if the new truck breaks. just means you can't work on it yourself and she's broken til you can get it to a dealer.

Amazing how well those ford XL interiors hold up.

I can’t believe people are buying $100,000 trucks🤣

I bought a '99 F350 SD, 4WD, crew cab, long bed, a Warn bumper & winch combo, but a V10...it was sitting for 2.5+ years, past owner died. Bought cheap, replaced a ton of mechanical "Consumable" parts (huge list), serviced everything, stripped it down (glass, bumper, trim, lights, door handles, weather stripping, everything), painted the entire truck, Line-X bed liner, replaced all 5 tires, re-did the headliner, replaced the 7" halogen driving lights with 300W LEDs', replaced the 3" halogen foglights with 3.5" amber LED's, installed a scanner, and put in a head unit with navigation. All-in, my total out-of-pocket? About $20K. It looks good, runs fantastic, and fits my needs- I wish it was a 7.3, but I really can't complain. This truck will be around for years to come, agree with you two 100%. Simple economics

A overview episode of the 6.0 truck with JH recommendation on what to do to the 6.0 to keep it running and reliable. That would be great for anyone looking to purchase one of these. What to look for based on what you guys see at the shop.

What about showing how well some minor upgrades to the ford will help overall in towing and braking performance .. Just a thought .. Hope all is well down in FL , coming from NC .. Thanks for all the awesome content guys !!

We love our 2002 F350 crew cab 4X4 SRW long bed. She was an XLT, originally but the interior is slated for an upgrade, she's black and mostly original appearing other than a level up kit, ranch hand, and some aftermarket wheels in the 16.5 flavor. That said, I can and do work on her. Parts are relatively cheap, and I can easily buy a new engine and trans for her. She is of course modified. Not to the point of being unreliable though, 1400EGT is real bad LOL. At about 400HP these days, Turbo and intake upgrade, EGR deleted, turbo back big pipe, cold air induction, swamps stage II double shot injectors, 7 position Hydra chip. She is plenty fast for a 7.3 and does well on fuel, dependent on the current tune. Yeah, we're running cameras front and rear, new paint and theft proofed to the max. My main concern is how bad they are to steal the earlier Fords. I mean I can jack one in about 30 seconds with no security measures. Mine was stolen a while back before I did all the modifications: alarm with kill, all mechanical door locks removed, outside and inside, electric only keyless entry with alarm remote, Lo-jack, and a club as a visual to go along with the alarm LED just to help deter. I did some serious rewiring to it under the dash as well, so hotwiring it would really be a rough day. The hood is also chained and locked shut. That said, if you have an early Ford, especially a nice one secure it up. And your guy is right about his 6.0 I get a lot of compliments on it, often people ask me if I would be willing to sell it. NOPE

Ford guy here… that GMC is gorgeous! Amazed at the performance and how refined the new trucks are. But I still love my good ol’ 6.0. Keeping her forever.

In my opinion, it’s only a matter of what your budget is. You can always upgrade brakes, add a tuner, fuel injectors, turbo, etc. So, with a few grand in upgrades, you can be well below $100K and have a reliable truck that performs well beyond the new trucks these days without the DEF and DPF, etc.

I’d like to see how a older truck with similar power as new holds up against the new one. I will volunteer my truck lol

That 10 speed helped out a lot! Love the duramax, but all the praise belongs to that 10 speed!

I get it... nice things are nice. I much prefer the piece of mind NOT worrying dings and scratches that will happen when using an older truck as a truck. Now parts are cheaper, there's plenty of KZfaq videos of other guys showing you how to diy repair. My next tow vehicle will be a 7.3 diesel. Not sure what truck I'll put it in. Either 77 f250 or mid 90s 250/350.

I love my 2003 6.0, but I definitely spent more money fixing it than I did buying it. No way I would go to six figures for the little personal stuff I do- I might be a little jealous. Don't leave out the $10,000 old truck! performance is the same, but it makes a big difference when its nice and clean inside and out. I don't see that new truck making it 20-30 years with all the exhaust treatment stuff.

Throw tuner with good tune on it. Bet you the 6.0 performs very closely

For the 97% price difference id say that Powerstroke did very well.

This is a good video. I used an 03 for about 10 years very similar to the one you have except it had a utility bed on it. It only had injectors and I think the turbo go bad on it shortly after we got it under warranty and nothing after that. Always was a really good truck. I would probably buy something similar to that for just trailer duty unless like you said I was hauling across the country regularly.

I cannot see $100K price difference between the 2 trucks. I would personally take the old truck do a few mods to extract a bit of power, upgrade the brakes also and get a AAA membership incase it breaks down.

JH really stepping it up! Love having Justin on the channel full time!

LOOK AROUND, There is a reason why so many contractors (my friend's dad), landscapers, and even municipalities STILL hold onto their classic F series diesels to this day. Saw one that looked like the truck in this video today that had a manual transmission, had the bed replaced with a dumper and hauled a landscaping trailer. Cheap to buy, cheap to repair, and they sound pretty mean too. The proof is in the pudding.

That 100000 plus truck won't beat the longevity of the 7.3.

It's interesting how the 6.0 was 1.1 second slower in the 1/4mi. But 9.2 seconds slower in the 60mph. I'm willing to bet the vgt actuator arm, unison ring, and vanes are worn making it slow to spool because it majorly came to life on the top end which is normal for a old vgt or reman turbo where they don't replace that stuff. Also did you disable trailer brakes on the gmc? If not since they didn't work on the 6.0 that could make a big change there.

Great video! I’d like to see an mpg comparison from the two. Full emission controlled vs basic

My grandpa, god rest his soul, had a 2007 F-150 XLT extended cab 4.6L (well we still have it) that doesn’t have many options on it but I think it’s a nice truck. Granted it does only have 27k miles on it, but it’s a nice truck.

That's a pretty quick truck for that 06 F350. Seemed to be under 10 seconds 0-60. At the least anything faster than 15 seconds 0-60 is plenty quick for a truck that big.

I'm still doing 1000 miles a month average with a thirty-year-old Ford IDI nothing about this truck bothers me it sure does seem to bother a lot of people let get behind me⛽️🇺🇸

Thats a hell of a lot of truck for $2000... Especially with that many miles on it

Great idea brother.. can’t wait to see the rest of the video.

Alot of the speed advantage comes from the new 10spd transmissions making the engines more efficient. As far as the squat once loaded, we're talking worn springs over new springs. My 07 F250 4x4 has little to no squat with a loaded 20ft car trailer. I wanted a new truck but I can't justify the price of a newer truck when my 07 does everything I need it to and throw at it its just not as pretty

I stopped by the local dealership and was shocked at the price. They have 3 2024 3500HD. In stock. All over 120k. $. Crazy nice trucks but wow

The New truck has a ton of safety features built into it! The old truck is a work beast!

I had a similar dilemma a couple years ago. I had a 00 7.3 f350. Loved the truck but I was towing cross country during the summer. I sold it and got a low mileage 2012 ram 3500 with the 6.7 cummins and g56. The cummins is a much nicer, more comfortable truck but it’s a 30k dollar truck versus my 7k dollar power stroke.

6.0 totally works for me Bullet Proofed no stopping it

I wish I could find a diesel truck in Florida for 3k

just left Ram looking at a cummings today. Is this a TRUCK channel or not? Yes we like this kinda content! Much love brother, and dont shine down that GMC or feel like u have to explain it to anyone. The hard work you have been putting in this year on this channel alone. Speaks as to why that truck is there, never mind all the hard work we dont see yall doing.

I would love it if you made a video comparing all new super duty and RAM dually trucks! 🙏🏻

for 10k I bought an 04 f350 srw with a 6.0 freshly rebuilt and tuned. Its clean inside and was taken decent care of.

I got a 7.3 Powerstroke for $4500 and I'm sure that truck will just keep going

Love the video great work!! My only question is on the braking how did the 6.0 stop that trailer in that short of time without having a trailer brake. That tells me that the gmc needs better brakes lol!! Just wondering if I missed something?

I have an ultimate 2500 on order, with max trailer package, they can easily tow what an older dually could. You also don't need the ultimate. You can get one in the 60s with cloth seats with some decent features.

I have had newer trucks I am back in a 04 6.0l and to be honest I love it, no monthly payment being able to work on it, parts are cheaper. If you get a loaded truck in that year 05-07 they are still nice and have heated seats you can get a nice radio and back up camera for 5-600. The new ones a defiantly more capable but really are they 85k more capable. One other thing to mention is that technically with the new trucks being so much more capable depending on truck/trailer combo you need a cdl. For me the old truck works but I like turning a wrench here you guys said it perfect, if you got the coin too blow it will give your business a good look pulling up but if things slow down especially with the economy being how it is you have that payment as over head. Regardless theses truck prices are insane used or new

My 2015 Duramax has worked perfectly since brand new except the DEF/DPF system. I’ve been left on the side of the road 6 times because of emission systems.

I guess what shocked me the most is at the beginning when you explained that you feel like you have to get a new truck (at a 100K price!) every few years for a truck that is used for what I would think these things are built for---regular heavy towing. Surely truck manufacturers can do better! I think I would take a portion of the $100K and maintain a couple of older trucks. And maybe set aside 5K or so in a high-interest account for emergencies like you described at the beginning.

I'd much rather have a 7.3 than any modern truck. My work truck is a '99 f450 with a 12' flatbed dump and. A 2k lb lift gate. I grabbed it with 114k miles from an auction for $12k. I never stress about working it. It's barely broken in at 114k miles ... There's just no chance I'd ever buy a new truck. My daily driver is an '88 landcruiser with a SBC350 swap, and my Sunday driver is a '77 Ford f250 supercab long bed. My bike is an '86 Honda. I don't go by brand. I don't go by features. I go by ease of working on them, aftermarket availability of parts, reliability, practicality, and look.

I bought a 2002 GMC 3500 4x4 for $7,000 and almost immediately had to do injectors, head gasket, replace the turbo, replace the rear end, and do brakes and a wheel hub. I am almost $30,000 into my truck with shop fees, but now it performs very well and more than serves my purpose owning a lawn care and landscaping company. For the cost of a new 3500 I can get a used one and spend a little extra cash and have a truck that performs better than a new truck if I get the right combination of performance parts… and I’d have half the money invested in it.

when your wife asks you to justify a 100 grand purchase so you gotta run outside and shoot a real quick comparison video with a 17 year old parts truck.

I have an 84 gmc with the 6.2 diesel in it. I paid $500 for it back in 1999. It gets 25 mpg, and I still drive and tow with it regularly. There is no way in hell that I would ever spend 100k on a new truck.

I got a 07 6.0 king ranch bulletproofed with gearhead tune and I love it paid 20k 8 year ago and take several long distance trips with better fuel economy than the new trucks and very easy to maintain it

I don't know about in the USA but in Canada warranty only covers once it's at the dealership. I had two hardlines blow on fuel rails, back to back. Still had to pay to get trailer towed both times, still had to pay to get truck towed both times. 2600 town bill first time and 3200 the next time. Both repair were under 600. Warranty isn't everything. Truck was completely stock. 2019 F550 at the time 98,000km on it.

Nice comparison but for less than half you can make the 6.0 perform as well and be more reliable. Something to be said about no dpf and def.

Justin I have enough T-shirts with catchphrases. Start selling the JH diesel mechanic shirt you always wear. I cannot be the first to tell you this. Love the channel

I own a lawncare company. I bought a 86 f250. Best $1400 i ever spent. It's old and hot, but it does the job day in day out

I drive a 2010 gmc it has 105,000 miles on it, it's a 4x4 3/4 ton, 2500HD 6.0 gasser, it does everything I need it to do and drives amazing...

In the promo you said Leroy 2.0 i don't think cleeter will ever give that away. Lol i think you meant to say Leroy Jr. 😄🦅🦅🤘 great vid as always🤘

Dude! This is a comparison video iv been waiting for! I currently own a 2006 f250 with the 6.0 and my dream truck is the gmc duramax! I get to see what I'm getting myself in to! Thank you so much!

I’m starting my own thing mainly on weekends or after work I ended up buying a 95 12 valve 3500 and it’s been solid

Just stumbled across this video. Nice video. I think a question a lot of people ask these days is diesel vs gas. I think being a diesel mechanic you kinda answer that by saying you trade the modern diesel every couple of years. Another thing I think any of the new gas HDs would have outperformed the older diesel or atleast been neck and neck. Good to see how far trucks have come in a relatively short time though.

Squat test on a old n used suspension vs brand new? Little bit of a reach there haha

I would love to see one on like a $20-40,000 truck. Basically newer. But still reasonable to buy outright. Or even a 15-20,000 range. Like a 3rd gen dodge. LLY duramax. Etc

FINALLY, someone tests TOWING old vs new! All these videos I see on KZfaq are all about the truck interior, motor, and lifting it and comfort and all this other bullshit. Tell me which old trucks are best at towing (good at towing AND RELIABLE) vs New ones!