So guys... a Bacta Bath or a Kolto Bath? Which are you choosing? Quite possibly the most important question you'll ever answer!

I am also excited to see Manaan in the remake. Sea planets and water environments were always my favorites as they were super unique and Manaan had this certain quality to it that the other planets didn't quite have.

My guess is that Kolto was somehow powered by The Force; a healing microbe, perhaps, and when so much of it was used for greed, that perhaps soured the force in the area, nearly killing off the microbe and greatly reducing their healing powers.

I’d probably go with Bacta. From my recollection, the Bacta tank was the only time Darth Vader could somewhat escape most of his physical pain. Considering how much he endured, I think I’d pick Bacta as my primary choice. :)

Short answer is kolto only occurs on manaan and bacta is easily mass produced nearly anywhere

Well, my Revan corrupted the Kolto, making it unusable, and ensuring that millions on both sides who might have otherwise survived would die, so I guess it's a bacta bath for me.

If there's anything I've learned from Republic Commando it's "Never say no to Bacta!" So Bacta bath for me it is. Like I said to your KOTOR remake question, I too am really looking forward to Manaan, water areas and environments in games are places I always find to be my favorite, especially with great graphics. Too bad the Selkath never realised the insane market of selling Twi'lek Kolto bath water. The credits they could've made..

This part of the game taught me the importance of not having a critical resources coming in their majority from just 1 source. And some people still think games don't teach us practical stuff that is applicable in real life. (heh)

It depends - many people in SW are actually allergic to Bacta, so for them Kolto would probably be worth the extra expense if it is more expensive. Still, I'd take and store both if I could :)

this is, BY FAR, the smallest yet more INTERESTING detail ive seen of star wars in a long time. I do RP and fanfiction and this shit will stay on my favorites for a LONG time LOVED IT

Whatever the reason, I’m glad it did. Music aside, the only reason I’d ever go back to Manaan is to test the Death Star super laser.

Absolutely loved this planet in kotor. From the music, the city, the endless sea to the selkath speech and great quest. This was one of my highlights of the game for sure.

Playing that 'Empire at War' Footage made me smile. Thank you

I like Manaan as a planet, but the Selkath are one of my least favorite species from the Old Republic. Any little legal infraction and they were totally down to execute you. Honestly still happy that the murder side quest can be done lightside, but still “prove” the guy innocent, mostly due to lack of hard evidence and the sith being completely incompetent in the courtroom lol

Out of all the possible races, I wish most that Swtor made the Selkath playable. Manaan is also one of my top 5 planets.

You should do a video about how the exile weakened Nihilus before the fight because of him attempting to consume her. I think a lot of people miss the fact that he was super weak when you fight him because he essentially destroyed a part of himself or something in doing that and the exile was the only one capable of defeating him because of this. Since she was a wound herself

the ultimate Nerd Question: could Kolto helped Ton Phanan from the X-Wing Books, whom had an Bacta allergie?

Kolto all the way! It’s got that old world quality that can’t be replicated

Those who say gaming can't be therapeutic have never spent time on Manaan in KOTOR.

Cheap, easier to replicate and make, and not vulnerable to possible tampering from a singular source. Just like the telegram over the Pony Express, if I say so myself.

Seen as there was one of the ancient Star Maps close to were the Kolto was harvested on the Hrakert Rift station, I'm wandering if that had something to do with the Kolto (and the Giant Firaxan shark) being there. I'm wandering if The star forge being destroyed had a knock on effect. Seen as Rakatan technology was powered by the force maybe it was the force that powered kolto, (I saw another comment with this theory) and after the star forge was destroyed it stopped powering the Star Map and possibly any other Rakatan/Force technology that was also producing Kolto. Bit of along shot, but that's my theory

This is something I have always thought. Especially watching book of Boba Fett.

Thanks for the awesome video! 100% awesome. I also agree with what you think on Manaan in the KOTOR remake, it is such a peaceful planet and a breath of fresh air, I actually find myself feeling the same about Dantooine.

A really great video on an interesting subject! Far more thourough, well argued and concrete than your review videos. Good job!

i always wondered this. thanks for the vid

There is something i remember reading or hearing a couple years ago that may have been reasons for kolto to still be active on the market. It is hipoalergic, and can be reused. Bacta has the advantage of being able to be mass produced, and one of the main components (a kind of wheat) is easily produced in fertile worlds. However compared with kolto, there need to be variants with different dillution and extra chemicals for races that might be alergic to the base mixture. Kolto was natural, and altough was weaker than bacta on the later stages of the universe, was still used for both the most sensible races and as a cheaper alternative to bacta (since when the Empire conquered Manaan, the price of kolto tanked and was distributed as a cheap alternative). Also, it is described in books that after someone is released from a kolto tank, their full body is cleaned with vacuums, and the tank's used kolto is placed on a barrel to be filtered and reused. NOW! If i remember the pros and cons are... Bacta: PROS -Can be mass produced cheaply; -The mix had been improved for centuries (milenia?), and is still being spiced up; -Relatively easy to use and simple to package/store. CONS -Need variants for some races; -Leaves a bad taste on the mouth for a while to those who are placed on tanks (similar to rotten cereals, or stale bread/beer); -can't be recycled. Kolto: PROS -Can be reused after filtered; -Better for some races; CONS -Can only be produced in Manaan, and is nearly impossible to synthesize; -Lost quality with time (I do believe was the result of overproduction. Seems it started to improve slightly just before the clone wars); Another curiosity. If i remember correctly, bacta is described to be kind of gelatinous, whereas kolto is described to be oily. Kolto could be vaporized to cover a bigger area and give a slow but effective treatment for smaller wounds.

Darth Vader: Bacta is better. Meetra: Kolto is better.

Oooh!! REALLY wanted to know this question. For YEARS! Thanks buddy!

Since Kolto can only be found on Manaan and it was declining then it makes sense that Bacta was the best healing source

Great video. Something I’ve always thought about

loooove ur videos :))

Amazing video.

(On an unconnected sidenote, is it me, or are a lot of KZfaq video thumbnails a bit wonky and mostly out of context lately?)

This actually has a real world comparison a type of bat that created guano used to be the worlds best fertilizer , but the source was so valuable that people kept invading these bat's home into extinction only after the extinction are we now using a second best mineral phosphates . Thus I conclude Kolto was the better , was driven into extinction by high demand , bacta is like the second best but used more often due to abundance.

Fun Fact, if you play the manaan flashpoint in swtor there is a holoterminal that shows the molecular structure of kolto, it's located near the start of the flashpoint where the first group of mobs are. And apparently that same one is the molecular structure of caffeine.

I have a stronghold on Manaan on SWTOR. Had it there for a long time until i moved it back to Tatooine. Now I kinda regret moving it from Manaan due to Manaan being a smaller stronghold than Tatooine. Manaan feels quite majestic but the fraska sharks often terrified me. To be honest, the ocean terrifies me more than any biome on land. Something about it's abyss sends shivers down my spine....I think it maybe the fact that i cant see what's below me and that the ocean feels very alien to me. Or it could be the Jaws movies LOL.

In a present Star Wars setting, I can really only see Kolto being preferred if, say, a character had an allergic reaction to Bacta and so needed an alternative.

I'm excited to see you with koriban and dantooine is going to look like in the kotar remake that's going to be cool

Monopolies are good business ( Honda voice)

Very good video. I'll go with Kolto since it's organic and from the old age

Manaan is the first "water temple" level in a videogame I actually wanted to revisit

In the High Republic, Manaan and the Selkath are theorized as having been responsible for the disaster on Hetzal as revenge for putting them out of business by farming bacta.

I wouldn't mind dipping my toes in a bacta spaaaa.

That whole SWTOR portion sounds like a bunch of writers going back and forth, and doesn’t really make sense. Kolto was on a steep decline, but now it’s important again for the purpose of a new Sith-Republic war, so they’re able to use it for neutrality again, but actually they can’t because kolto isn’t as important anymore, so all their cities get destroyed, but nevermind here’s a new one, also kolto is important again and can be used for neutrality, but not, because they’re supporting the Republic, somehow, and the devastated Selkath species is fine now. Just a whole lot of not much happening, huh. Also, what was with the bizarrely humanoid Selkath in some parts? Human hybrids?

Manaan is basically the perfect opposite of Arrakis

Bacta was in the pc/console game Star Wars: Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast (release 03/06/02) as the portable health canister used to heal on command. the game Kotor didnt come out until a year + later. if anything Bacta was replaced by kolto, so you seem to have it backwards; as Kolto is still active as the defacto healing ability in the current SWTOR mmo.

For some reason I never even noticed two different liquids were used. Whenever I play KOTOR I guess kolto was automatically translated to bacta in my mind.

It's because Revan chose the Dark Side option and destroyed the Kolto supply and the galaxy had to switch to Bacta. Yet another thing to thank Lord Revan for! :p

I have a suggestion for video based on your thumbnail. You could do one about the selkath characters from the 2008 Clone Wars show. This species first appeared in Kotor games and first appeared in canon in Clone Wars 2008 show.

The reason Kolto was used more is like you said. It was cheaper then bacta. That and people will only buy things they know and trust. So since Bacta being new or not used as much meant people stuck with Kolto.

I know this is from an old video, but I need confirmation about something. When you shared a video with Eckhartsladder about The Star of Coruscant Super-Dreadnought, you mentioned the name: Laren Omas. That got my Legends nerd self perked up, because Omas is the same surname as Cal Omas from The New Jedi Order Series, The Swarm War, and Legacy of The Force. Is the guy that created that Super-Dreadnought in The Old Republic-Era an ancestor of that Chief Of State of The GFFA from 28 ABY, to 40 ABY? Much like Cassus Fett is an ancestor of Jango, and Boba Fett, or Admiral Dodonna in KOTOR 1, to Jan Dodonna in The Rebel Alliance?

KOLTO FOR YOUR CUTS🌊

I was literally playing KOTOR on Manaan last night

I loved all the worlds in the Kotor series, except for telos, but even then telos still had some good moments. Manaan has to be a favorite of mine.

The question i have is how long does it take to heal from these and to what damage extent?

I remember that I saw syntetic Colto in the game. What happen to that stuff?

this got recommended to me right after i got to manaan in kotor that's creepy

So what did the galaxy use before kolto and bacta?

Fascinating

I think the Selkath have my favorite sounding language in KotOR

It's marketing but it's beautiful to hear you dance around that

I’ve played KOTOR for years and always wondered that

Pretty that Bactta was still in the experimental stages during this time which it was less wide spread

All I know about the two is based on what game I was in first. I cut my teeth in SWG and there it was ALL Bacta and I never even heard of Kolto till I played KOTOR Many many years later.

During the Krytos virus epidemic, was Kolto ever considered as a mechanism to back up the dwindling bacta supplies?

I think if the healing properties of Koltor could be restored I'd prefer it but Bacta is the ultimate standard by which healing liquids are measured by

Considering my luck, I'd be just as allergic to either as I am to Penicillin.

Wasn't there a line in Kotor about kolto being the best healing agent in the galaxy? I feel like I remember that, though it was just a one off line if it was even said

in kotor kolto medipacs looked like a simple injectable, give yourself a shot and it fixes you right there. Bacta needed tanks and took time. maybe it could fix more problems, but i would think that as long as kolto was available someone would use it, esp considering bacta was always a limited supply

Hey im a huge fan of your channel and kotor, I know this doesn't have to do with the video but could you maybe do a quick short or demonstration of revans lightsaber? Practically it seems entirely unfit for combat and seems to only fit a metaphorical aesthetic build, there's no comfortable way to hold it and I've tried recreating all of his moves with it only to cramp up after each one 😅

Would you say they had a... manaanpoly?

Because it came out after a 40 year old movie! crazy fr fr

Used to love duplicating weapons,armor and lightsaber crystals on manaan,the fastest way to obtaining the best buyable items(and duplicating rare findable items)in the game.

Because of my fear of oceans I was more comfortable roaming the dryer planets. Also Bacta for me because it's cheaper so I'd probably be able to afford it.

The exile killed the fish on mannan to open the starmap which the Jedi had sent meetra and basilica on a secret mission to find all 4 starmaps❤❤❤

Kolto, but my first Star Wars game I ever played was KOTOR so I might be biased

I believe Bacta was found to be more potant/effective hence the replacement

if the Celcath and the Kaminoans had joined forces they could have created a scientific empire.

Kolto, I like my magical healing baths to be organic

When I played this game as a kid I thought Kolto WAS Bacta. Isn't there part of/a questline to synthesize it? Which I assumed back then it naturally was how Bacta came to be. Always figured that the point of Manaan was to show the origin point of Bacta? Thought it was cool, but I assume that was the point and it's been changed?

Well head cannon says Kolto was only available in the one spot, the Rift that was occupied by the Giant Firaxan. So it must be excrement from the big shark.... and once everyone realizes this they dont want to bathe in magic healing poo.. no matter how bad they were injured.

like Kamino, another aquatic planet profiteering over the war by playing both sides

I wonder what the empire did when they saw the Star Map at the bottom of the ocean lol.

Yes that is what caused the first war between the Jedi and the exile and the selkath

I hate Manaan in Kotor...especially on dark side playthroughs....did you know there are so many ways to be executed and fined that you can do? I think there are 5 ways to be executed? Maybe more...lol....why as a dark sider would I give up and go with the authorities? No I'd kill them all lol...especially if I know I'm Revan at this point...I would remove the judge panel....well part of the judge panel....the part right above their shoulders... Manaan was infuriating...and then the people there want to gargle at you all the time instead of having a conversation lol

As long as we don't walk slow under water I'll take which ever

They should have marketed it as "organic" and "free trade"

I like my Manaan SH in SWTOR. Reminds me of Subnautica.

Well, ofc Kolto production was linked to that ("true" canon) giant fish thing which got dark sided in KOTOR 1 didn't it?

Bacta boy myself.. if nothing else won't need to ravage a planet life for for it..

I bet the Selkath taste awesome deep fried

KOTOR hinted that Kolto may be fish crap.

I suspect that Kolto would be popular with the wealthy elites since it wasn’t as common and likely more expensive.

Unfortunately my insurance doesn’t cover kolto, so it’s the bacta tank for me.

So long as this remake doesn't end up with a bug that prevents you from finishing the game, like in the KOTOR 2 remake.

Ayo- to anyone reading this and thinking about getting the KOTOR2 port that just came out on the switch: don't buy it yet. There's a very, very game breaking bug that makes the game essentially unfinishable (kind of. it's doable but you need to use the cheat menu). I'd wait a few weeks until they fix it. Also, the company that ported it is apparently not very good at delivering on their promises to fix the bugs they said they'd fix, so it very well might never be fixed. That said, KOTOR2 has been an incomplete buggy mess since it came out originally, and Obsidian never fixed it either. So I guess it's technically an authentic experience lol. I bought it without knowing and I'd still def recommend buying it if you don't mind buggy games, it's an awesome [yet unfinished] game any way you slice it :) Edit: also, I really love that you took the time to edit in a correction when you said "unreplaceable" instead of "unreplicable" or "irreplaceable". If you hadn't pointed it out, I'd bet less than a tenth of a percent of people would have even realized that what you said wasn't actually a word. That's quite respectable 😂

Either one, as long as I'm not allergic to it.

Id go with bacta, I want to go with kolto bath. But I feel like since its natural it will be slimy lol

I would try Kolto and if it didn't work, switch to Bacta. ^^

Bacta tank even I find Kolto more interesting. Know I get Bacta became the better healing agent, but hell they could have started marketing it as a cheap alternative, Bacta to expensive for you go buy Kolto. It won't heal you as fast but it still gets the job done. Or hell make a hybrid drug imagine a superdrug that has both Kolto and Bacta in it it be twice as good as either of them.