When I saw the video I thought "Re-build the cabin to make it wider and give direct access to the hulls from upstairs" and if you had the space and time might be worth doing....but then I saw the price!!!! Probably worth $15k depending on transport costs and having somewhere to put it

Even if it's free leave it alone

I see the best possible future of this boat as insurance fraud.

This boat comes with a complimentary divorce.

There's a good reason why the price keeps dropping........the layout is completely dis functional. Unfortunately this boat is worth more parted out.

I'm currently on assignment in Romania and watching this... I could literally smell the mold and mildew from here!! Listen to your wife!!

Also why the HELL has someone put two new engines, a new rig and instruments on this thing?!?

Tell the owner , my advice would be to sell the engines mast rigging and sails separately .....and hopefully after the sale have enough money to pay someone to come along and take it to the SKIP ....as a bluewater boat it is the worst one I have ever seen .and iam 124 years old ..😳😳

Sorry I have worked on boat for 35 years and that boat is nowhere near 40 grand it's not a diamond in the rough it's a turd in the dirt run away and don't step in it

RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DO NOT BUY THIS BOAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You would need to buy TWO of them. That one to remove engines and rigging from, and a better one to put the engines and rigging INTO. Wow - a lot of good spare parts, and from the look of it, you would not have to work very hard to cut out the good parts.

Agree with everyone else, especially the part about the complimentary divorce. Run now.

That boat has some nice parts on it... every time I've done glass work the damage has been 3 to 4 times larger than what was originally seen

The best part of this boat was when you watched it get smaller in the mirror as you fled the scene

Dang, somebody pissed away a lot of money on this boat.

Looks good for a single-hander circumnavigation, a quick sprint through the Southern Ocean, and the rounding of the Horn in winter.

The one positive of this catamaran is that it is probably fast sailing. The owner added the 3' sugar scoop extensions to reduce stern squatting and water turbulence to make it sail better/faster. The diesel tanks are midshp for balance purposes as anything further aft would cause stern squatting. The only other possible location for the diesel tanks would be in the aft section of those forward lockers. If this boat is in affluent Barrington RI, the owner had the bucks to add all the new stuff- this was probably a whim toy like a go fast car and now he/she just wants to get rid of it. Agree that the rigging and engines are the valuable parts of this cat. The negatives are many and have been pointed out. Tulas Endless Summer youtubers bought a similar cat and fixed it up, but theirs had a much better layout in the hulls. But even they, in a recent post, liked the space in a more modern catamaran they visited. Adding a robust autopilot would be difficult given the design, only a tiller autopilot would work easily and they are less robust. This cat does not have most of the advantages of modern cats such as lots of living space, storage space, big galley, multiple heads, large cockpit, protected steering helm, protected easy entrance to hulls, engines in separate compartment or a sound insulated area. Cat models I personally like and may be in your budget are Privilege 37 and Privilege 39 from the late 80's early 90's. A 37 sold for $75K a few years back in Mid Altlantic on Yachtworld. A 39 sold for $59K in S Fl 2 years ago on Craigslist and another in Tx for $85K on Ebay. They meet the rule of thumb of at least 35' LOA for offshore sailing and have a beam width that is at least 50% of LOA for stability, and have adequate bridgedeck clearance. So affordable well designed cats do come up for sale. See youtube Taking the Chance for couple sailing Priv 39 in Caribbean.

Just watching this filled me with despair.

Suggestions: 1. Consider relocating the diesel tanks to the centermost portions of the awthoroughtship voids which exist in each hull, then fit out heads where the tanks are now. Fit out your galley on one side and your stateroom on the other. Fit out a watermaker and companion FW tank on the galley side. Clean all interior areas with hi pressure washer with a trash pump to scavenge the bilge water buildup - like your dentist does when he is grinding on your tooth - no big deal. Repaint after full cleaning, drying and repairing as needed.. 2. cover the dagger board voids with a hinged plug - no biggie. 3. First do the exterior work which is required to launch. Second, reposition boat to a highly protected cheap shore birth with power, all of which is very near your residence - then conduct your interior and topside repairs while floating. Take your time - do things right - find an experienced and good natured mentor. The more you do yourselves, the better qualified you will become to operate and maintain your boat. Don't make anyone responsible for anything except yourselves. If you don't know something, learn it . . . You'll be just fine.

Imagine raising the Titanic, putting new boilers and engines in it and then try to sell it.

I guess rose colored glasses work in the rain! I can't believe you wasted time discussing this "boat" after wasting a trip to RI. Look up 'SV Basik'. Teal and Lyhn bought a somewhat similar project, needing a full rebuild, but the hulls and cabin were structually sound, they knew what they were getting into, they had a good enough income duuring the project to never have to skimp on quality, Teal is a very talented and meticulous craftsman, they are now sailing on a beautiful cat-but the project took MANY, MANY YEARS! This owner needs to drop the asking to 20k, and if it doesn't sell in six months sell the rigging, sails and motors, cut up and haul off the boat, and get out from under the yard fees. That should have been the plan years ago.

Ewww... run for the hills! 89k seems like a crazy amount for a boat in such rough shape. Aside from that, the layout is ridiculous!

Really your special Sailboats presentations, just great thanks a bunch, Has

This was fun to watch . New subbie

I nearley choked on my cup of tea when I saw the price hahaha

Randy learn about distilled vinegar and baking soda used together in the proper manner there is no need , your labor of scrubbing , if you let vinegar and baking soda do all the work !!! Truly all that is needed for detoxing the mold and cleaning going in with vinegar 100% spraying it everywhere would clean the mold out in seconds !!! Then neutralize with baking soda with a quick wipe down is all that is needed if you give the vinegar and baking soda the time to work not jump on top of it expecting it to work in an instant give it the time it needs a day or two if need be shouldn't take much longer than that less time and days of scrubbing . Wet stains baking soda first let dry then clean up with vinegar . mold and dry stains I always use 100% distilled vinegar let stand for at least 24 Hours come back in moisten and again with vinegar and then Dust with baking soda let stand at least 12 hours Come Back Inn wipe off clean up with clean water and always 100% cotton cleaning rags do the best job no need for the endless irresponsible use of paper towels. I do not use the disposable rubber or plastic gloves I have some good rubber gloves a couple of pairs for handling chemical and oily messes they are around $10 a pair and they have lasted me well over 25 years over buying rubber disposable nonsense. all I've done to maintain them is wash them in distilled vinegar after every use and they just as new today as they were 25 years ago .

I'd take it. Plywood bulkheads are easily removed and be ones made and glassed in. Noticed the wiring system seems very tidy. Getting down from deck to cockpit... Few grp steps can be made. If the decks are double core it's easy to pump epoxy resin inside. Other than that just some cleaning repainting and minor building work. Definitely could negotiate on the price if your good at pointing out all the negatives...

Wow, that is a lot of work! I would have to pass on that one.

At least no worries about a viewer buying this out from under you :)

This the perfect cat for KZfaq series but not for sailing.

the fact the owner or broker couldnt even make it presentable is all you need to know. that boat is worth no more than 10k if that. More like 5k since the engines and mast etc are basically devalued now

"Symmetrical evidence of damage" What I think it means is the foam inside is saturated, the water has found, or is still finding the lowest point, hence all the rot in those areas. I could just see an enormous amount of work required to fix this thing. It's weird they fitted new gear to it to try and sell it rather than fix the basics first. It's a shame so many people buy boats then neglect their maintenance, but people do the same with cars too. Engines are worth $3,562.00 each or so, so $7124 in engines there, and rigging, maybe $8000, so value sitting there is $15124, the rest of the boat is liability. Better off buying a boat in good shape with no engines and needs rigging.

Run like hell from this boat. Or, offer $10K I’d sell the engines, winches, mast and hardware and anything else of value. Cut the hull up and trash it.

We have sailing plans, and we watch and enjoy all your reviews of all the difference boats We also looked at building a new catamaran from scratch, we have even looked at plans available online From what we saw, we would rather be in a Monohull then in this cat From what we have learned so far, it will be more work to fix this one then build a new one

You can often find "cheap" cruising boats in Hawaii, at the Ala Wai or Sand Island Marinas. These are often fully outfitted, and fresh in from their passage from the Mainland, during which the owners had their dream of islands in the sun dissolve under the repeated onslaughts of seasickness, trying to cook sailing dead downwind and constantly rolling the gunwales under in 8-10 foot tradewind swells, exhausting watch-on watch-off living (most of these are couples, many don't get additional crew to handle the watches or work), and generally the shock to their systems from finding out that cruising is not the same as a weekend out to Catalina Island and back. Depending on how desperate they are, how badly the marriage broke up after the voyage, and how long the boat has sat unsold, you can often pick up a name yacht that would have cost you $350,000 from a brokerage in Southern Cali for under $100,000. Sad but true; I've been an island resident since '76 when I singlehanded in to Hawaii from the Marquesas on a 37-footer I built myself. With Warm Aloha, Tim

The big ticket stuff is all done, it is a pity they didn’t put the fuel tanks above the engines and left the heads in place. These boats are like a rocket ship, I did an oceans crossing on a 55 and we had the boat airborne on a number of occasions. You guys have the skill set to finish this one off.

Run, not walk, away. What a mess. So many hidden dangers

run run. Dont go loosing your charming lady for that Outremer.

I for one think you should really consider purchasing this fine vessel. You could change the name of your channel to "Sailing La Dumpster Fire" Just Imagine the possibilities.

It’s crapola. Run away! Love you guys.

89k, the owner is dreaming, he'd get more money for the engines and mast separately I've seen boats in far better shape for half that price.

This is the worst catamaran project I've ever seen.

Good luck 2 u both on your journey.keep the dream alive

I haven had a belly laugh in a long time.. the advice here is classic.. especially the one about despair 😩 🤪🤣🤪🤣

If you like sailing, don't buy it. If you like fixing and spending, buy it really cheap. On second thought DON'T buy it.

Leave it alone guys, just dont go there you would be buying a nightmare.

subscribed ;) came from Sailing La Vagabonde have a great day:)

Well fwiw, given the amount of reworking needed, the Irwin 52 you dismissed yonks ago would be a better long term home/ life time boat. But it's your life guys 😉

I recon it was an open boat, that has had a hard top put on it... I imagine it would be quite fast... Don't buy it, carry on looking, you have shown us much better boats..

There I hope all you cheapskates who were asking for tours for "everyman" boats instead of beautiful models are happy now.

Former Rhode Islander, Go Bruins! Seriously though, this boat needs to be parted out. Outremer have come a LONG way (La Vagabonde), yet they have always been very efficient and fast boat designs. What I wish for you two, as a young couple hooked on sailing, beyond winning the lottery, is that you find yourself in a position where you can either finance a decent used catamaran (because I think that's what you want) or a situation where you could build a Wharram or Woods design, et. al, to your specs. It's the traditional time vs. money thing... I suggest you keep this business model you now have (because stranger on the Internet), if it offers any surplus of time or money, to work to that goal. Maybe you need two channels, a DIY and broker/rep type? As you probably already know, the Wharrams don't have a meaningful bridgedeck enclosure, they are really twin canoes (channel Lucky Fish), like this boat, but the Woods cats do. Speaking to this boat specifically, the cost to cut away the pilothouse and replace the deck gelcoat or underlayment is absurd, especially because you'd have to relocate to do it, or just as bad, motor the beast to your preferred location and haul it out. Appended sugarscoops are never a good idea. There's a lot of up force on a fast cat's aft end. Outremer's engineers are not stupid, there is a reason they didn't add skinny extensions to the aft of their design. It costs speed and adds weight; their engineers are famous for their quote: to take the toothbrush and cut it in half!

Well - it sold! Be curious to see if it lives to see the light of day.

That's a GREAT boat. (for free) Sell off the rigging, engines and put the funds to another boat. Perfect! (or build a new hull and put rigging and engine on it.)

That boat reminds me of a Rat Rod, more rat than rod. The design is pure sailing, bare minimum living accommodations, not really a live aboard. I love Randi's response.

Just had another thought. I think you guys enjoy showing boats more than sailing which is fine. You need to go ahead and make it legal and get boat brokers licenses if required for your state. Then have a standard contract to give featured boats owners or brokers that they will pay you a marketing fee if it sells after your video. Brokers typically share fees with other brokers so do it. Also, always use the go pro. You need Tue really wide angle to seethe baits. Sometimes you focus on your wife while she talks about the boat and don't show what she is talking about. Good job! I like seeing the boats.

Its a L.M.S.B! Light Match Stand Back. But it could be worth $100,000 if you spent $150,000 rebuilding it.

I would leave this boat alone. She has a lot of issues that would need to be resolved, not to mention the poor space circulation.

Good choice not to buy I can’t even imagine what to do with that boat no room good job guys

Owner of that ship needs to give it some love and care if they want someone to buy it.. Start scrubbing!

That thing needs a LOT of work. If I had a spare $45k or so burning a hole in my pocket, I would: 1) Hire a pro inspector to find everything wrong with it and determine that it's actually possible to salvage into something safe to use 2) Move those diesel tanks into the storage bins above the engines (which are far too small for my liking but no point upgrading until it's confirmed usable) and put heads where they're supposed to go 3) Gut that entire center room and rebuild properly into living(ish)room, including an enclosed wheelhouse. Redo the roof in the process with all fiberglass 4) at least cover that entire rear walk, if not totally enclose. Double tillers would get replaced for getting in the way of main walkway, with more protection when desired at the main steering position 5) Tear off those 3' extensions, there are less makeshift ways to get good easy water access for swimming/etc. 6) Scrub out the front lockers, and convert one or both into small offices, kid's rooms, or similar. Or even just spare pantries for more durable goods. Probably one of each 7) Improve the side railings significantly, and add some flavor of cover over the daggerboards that keeps you from twisting an ankle when they're in the down position. Also rubberized stick-on mats everywhere. 8) Upgrade the berths with some $100 memory foam full size mattresses or similar, with wall TVs and those bed-cushions so they can be used as a hangout area. Add privacy curtains, and upgrade the space around them to actually provide bedroom amenities. Possibly make hatches into the hulls seal if still able to get water to them after whatever walkway upgrades 9) Upgrade rigging to be remotely operated, because sometimes one person has to sail solo because injury/illness, and also because sometimes it's just crappy outside, but that's more a nicety than a necessity. It's kind of a meh layout and needs a lot of work, but if you had a space to put it while you did so you could make a pretty decent house out of it (if you could get it cheap enough). I've heard more than a few stories of people buying a big cheap old ship that's barely fit to leave the harbor but otherwise sound and just using it as a house for college because local marina fees were a fraction of what any rent would be. This looks pretty seaworthy, so even beyond that usage you could get a real nice thing out of it, once it was all said and done

I was thinking buy it cut it up save the engines and rigging, but then i saw 89,000 and I would run!

I"m sorry, but this is the ugliest boat I've ever seen. I cannot imagine anyone living on this boat.

If the hulls are good take the main salon off completely and redesign. Big project but has some potential. Or better yet buy a storm damage boat and use this for the parts.

Looks like it needs a lot of work, but you at least have yourself a blank canvas to make it how you want! Congratulations on your find!

You don't have the time or money to work on a boat that is in the water!! How much work could you have done in the three days it took you to fly up there and back? Not to mention the editing time.

This boat will sink your dreams of sailing for the drudgery of repair. And once done? A great inadequate make-do disappointment.

that man is in love!!

I couldn't run away fast enough!

For the amount of time and money the new owner will have to spend on this refit job, might as well buy a decent 1990s Gemini catamaran...

No way in Hell. I knew she would say that !

Great boat shopping thinking and reviews. I wonder how this one would sail, how fast it would cruise...? I wonder what the thinking with the layout and design was for the originators? Thanks for the video.

In aviation we deal with lots of laminates. To check for delam, we use the coin tap method. Which is exactly what it sounds like. Tapping around the laminate, you will here the difference between good and bad laminates. Very quick and fairly accurate way to check for delam. Just an fyi for future inspections.

This is a day sailor at best! And watching the video, I’d say run, run fast, run far, and don’t look back, that boat will cost 20,000 grand plus! Sugar scoops are rotten, not faired properly, roof is rotten, and it’s just way to much work.

Wow, that's a disaster. I'm glad you had a chance to see it, and even in your wildest fantasy could see you need to leave this alone.

Run don’t look back and make us happy!!

I’d much rather see videos of boats you are considering buying vs. the other boats you have visited. Even though this one looks like a loser, it’s interesting to hear your thoughts and comments as you tour the boat. I always enjoy your videos and look forward to seeing continued work on Freebie or your next project.

No, I can't see why someone sent all that money on this boat, to begin with,( new engines).

How come you guys are always looking at boats instead of sailing your own? Not trying to criticize, just genuinely curious.

Lotta work with this project, but hey, for the right folks, have at it. Would be fun to see it done up. I'm a trimaran lover myself, so the cats don't do it for me. Lookin forward to seeing what you two eventually end up with.

if that boat could be picked up for under 50k, it is the one project boat that would definitely be worth buying.

with the amount of work needed in this thing...it would be years till you would enjoy this..doubt if Randi would like this one...shes pretty open on how she likes things..I would not say to her "honey look what followed me home"...think you spent money on flight etc ...would been used on your own boat..

Nope, I love a good project. But no thank you. This project can easily take you two years to get all that core work done. And that’s not my experience. It’s in any refit channel you can watch. But! This seems more like a racing boat then a cruising boat.

thank you I'm planning to retire and live aboard a sailboat hopefully a cat at least 41' this video is giving me great information to look for when I start looking this October

This is exactly how this boat was originally designed, it's not a lashup. Old Outremers are light because there's not much boat there. The hulls are too narrow to sleep in and just about too narrow to even have a down galley. Here's the thing though, there's any number of Outremer freaks (typically in France) who will pay good money for these things and the structural stuff is solid fiberglass and probably sturdy. If you were looking for a fast short handed cruiser/racer or day/weekend boat it might be a decent choice for a good price or if you're handy and looking for a boat to fix up to sell to a particular buyer this one already has all the big money items taken care of.

That looks more like a racing cat than something for passage.

The person who sold this did a home run.

Watched a few of your boat tours but they stated to all look the same except for this one! Nice job, way to change it up, I felt your excitement, and I get it, but that thing is a day sailer or weekender at best.Thanks for throwing it in the mix. Got my interest.Thanks for flying up to Rhode island so I don't have to.

It could pay off as a work boat. Maybe harbor tours, a party boat for Spring Breakers, or schlepping snorkelers. No one is sleepng on it, no one is going on long trips in it, and the extra storage has a use. You would need a construction crew that is fast and cheap and have a buddy in the salvage business. The new engines are a big plus as they will be pounded into paste.

I’d take it if the owner was giving it away with a $250,000 cheque

Where to begin. First, thank you for reviewing the boat. It is a valuable lesson even though you spent money to go up and look at it. Clearly it is worthless. Bet there is an outstanding yard bill and It goes up for a sheriff's sale. Clearly a stripper. You noted the hull were solid fiberglass...but what kind of glass is it? Again probably worthless. And the boat would probably blow up a moisture meter. The only thing I know about catamarans is what I learned on KZfaq. I am a power boat guy(did own a sailboat for five years).... but is having those fuel tanks in the very front of the twin hulls a good design? Why would someone install new engines, rigging and sails before assessing what it would cost to fix up the boat if possible? From a design perspective it looks like a poorly designed kit boat. The cockpit and hull access are awful. I did find the comments below very entertaining. A boat you will love is out there waiting to be found. Wishing you all the best of luck.

This boat, with her long, narrow hulls, deep daggerboards, light weight and little windage, can sail circles around all production cats. With ease. On all points of sail. As Dick Newick sad about what is possible in yacht design, you have to choose 2 of 3 characteristics: performance - accommodation - price. Outremers definitely picked performance as a priority. (They had many successes in the ocean racing). Gerard Danson designed her for active cruisers. People who don’t care much about luxury. Want simple, functional boat, easy to maintain. Not spending much time and money repairing unnecessary stuff, waiting for spares, varnishing e.c.t. . People who like to sail (very) fast, visit isolated places. Once there, have a fun, going surfing, biking, free diving,spear fishing … Carry 2 or 3, (lightweight), dinghies \ kayaks. I like the main construction bulkhead that completely closes of the bows. It is very strong and rigid, (it takes the biggest loads - main beam and mast). You get watertight compartments - safety factor in the case of collision and an out of site storage space for bulky, but light stuff - like surfboards, mountain bikes … Outremers are built from solid fiberglass and are very strong,. There is a big chance that she is structurally sound. Only add - ons (hull extensions and deck pod are suspect. I think I would chop of deck pod and make a new one from ply/epoxy. Smaller and lower then original one. Just high enough for siting, not standing, Something like this: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q6qZY8p6ntOuiI0.html Cooking in the hull, light, camping stove. I would remove those huge diesel thanks. It is an overkill for such good sailing boat, it slows her down. I hope that propellers are not big 3 blades, they really kill sailing performance. Mould is just cosmetic problem. Few days of elbow grease. As you can tell, I am a fan. Unfortunatelly, at this point in my life, time \ money wise, I can comfortably afford to own and use just Hobie 16. (Not that they are not huge fun J).

The cost to rebuild and making it a safe boat will be more than what you probably estimate. DON'T DO IT! Save your money and apply it towards something better. As someone commented, the only thing worth salvaging would be the engines and mast.

you'd have to go full blown Mads on this thing!

89k?....when you said the price dropped and before i saw the price i figured it was at 20..25k....run very fast back to the airport and don't look back....or buy it for 10k....(edit make that 5k)....salvage the mast , engines and rigging ....then some cement and sink it for a reef

All I see is a mayday call in the future on this boat. : )peace

Okay, I have a surveyors background, and the first thing I would tell a buyer was, pay for the upgraded equip only, cause you will need the money to get it sea worthy. Also, who in their right mind would install all the equipment in those hulls? It looks like an attempt to get rid of it. Someone thought they could make a quick buck, it will take at least another 50k to get it repaired, unless you are capable of do the work.

If I get it for free, I take it. Sell the rigging, sails and engines, burn the rest. That is a BIG problem boat.

This makes the saying bust out another thousand a whole new meaning

These are great boats but only for sailors. Great cruising machines that will effortlessly cross oceans. Not for people who want a floating apartment . No obvious structural problems, rip off the scoops to make it 40 ft. Clean paint and patch. In good condition these boats sell for $80-100k in Europe.

Yep, beat feet, as fast and as far as you can!! :)