Bought Roadshow yesterday. Very, very nice. So much more convenient than Miami. It's ridiculous how many modern conveniences you can get on even a classic Amiga today. Going to try the iBrowse 2.5.4 demo today, and see if it's fast enough on my humble A1200 with 68030@50MHz and 32MB FastRAM. I've read a few places that it's really slow on anything below a 68040, but we shall see. Thanks for providing good Amiga related content :)

So glad I've found this channel, it's awesome! Plus you remind me of Michael Douglas in Falling Down :) Great work!

Excellent Video Doug, Cheers..Mark

Doug, great video! I was totally on board with buying a copy of this for the first 25 minutes of your video. Until you got to the price. Holy crap $60. That's insane. $25 or $30, sure, ok. But $60? Nope. lol

Great vid, & I have to say spot on about the price, it's crazy to think it's going to sell in the tens of thousands, thumbs up with a price drop, also reflecting the true number of Amiga people out there in pure sales alone.

It is fun to see that the old Amiga can be used this way. But a simple Linux machine gives me that same good old feeling of being in control. So much faster, so much better looking and free software :)

Great video again pal! This is something I've been meaning to try for a awhile, so if I get the whole Vampire situation sorted out, I'll give this a go... Should be fun! 😁

As long as you start your network during boot, you can set the correct time in the user-startup using a tool like NTPSync.lha (Aminet) from a ntp server in the internet (much cable/DSL router are NTP servers too)

Don’t really need a new browser for the Amiga, I don’t use the browser much. But would totally have supported if the price was lower. Still really cool that people are still making software! I did purchase 3.1.4 and roadshow68k, coz they were reasonably priced

Another lovely video. Very helpful. (Sorry I’m not very imaginative with my praise but it is meant) Fully agree the price of iBrowse. For what is a hobby for (almost) all of us, 60usd is just hard to justify to our already very forgiving partners, 30usd however and I’d definitely grab a copy. For now I use Aweb and FTP client software that came with roadshow (command line only, although there’s some great ftp software with guis available). I have to say that I’m very happy with my purchase of roadshow definitely a worthy consideration. I got a licensed amitcp when getting my fantastic individual computers network card but find roadshows speed and transparency worth the additional purchase.

Nice review for a great Amiga coding efforts I only tested the demo version of Ibrowse 2 5.2 and it works pretty well on my Sam440 with AmigaOS 4.1 .. its probably the faster browser ever released, however it's hard to consider it a real alternative to other NG solutions such Odyssey or NetSurf until it didn't support any of that pretty needed modern web technology like CSS, latest javascript etc.

crass... I´ve left the shrinking Amiga-universe late, end of the 90's, and did my first internet experiences also at that time with my former A4000... but have to say, watching this clip 20+ years later feels like I would still be at that past era 🤔 What about surfing to any today´s pages, guess more or less impossible?

Great Videos. I agree about the price. I would purchase it if it was 30 dollars.

Great Video Doug, good to see whats possible, I agree with the cost, especially if it's not going to be your main browser. Let's hope it gets resolved soon, small incremental payments for upgrades would be far better, you'd get alot more people upgrading each time and eventually over years, the dev's probably get paid what they asked for and more.

Another excellent video good sir, I was like wow this is amazing But yea the price tag ouch :(

Good video Doug, as always! I agree on the price. They just need to sell os4 and OS3.x singularly for half the price. . The big work was porting the browser to 0s4. But I personally don't want an os 4 version! As now the developers sells Ibrowse and doesn't know what version is the best seller of the 2. That's really stupid! Next version will be aimed to OS 4 even if 90% of customers buy it for the OS3 one?

Back in the day I connected to the early internet using my A500, a 1680 (1200 baud) modem, and Termite TCP, with AMosaic for a web browser. It was painful, but it worked. :) Nowadays I use a 68K version of AWeb and a Raspberry Pi for a "modem" and Miami. It's still painful, but it works. :D

Mui is still developed and I believe the original author is still working on it, mainly for morphos. You could contact him and find out if he can generate a public key.

I brought ibrowse along with magic wb back in the day..nice to know its still going

Great video, agree 30USD seems much more reasonable.. Just checked in waybackmachine what my local store sold Ibrowse 1.0 for (boxed) about 30USDin 98 .. Was another time but still is a more fair price.. But I like to see it alive again, spent so much time with that software over the yeas ...will get it anyway for my very soon coming vampire 1200 card (its sent already, waiting :D) .. Have a great week, best greetings..

True dude... browsing page and "who is that" :D

Doug, you're spot on with your comments about the price. 35 quid is a lot of money and they would do better if they lowered the price. What toolbar/dock software are you using on your 4000?

Hi! Good video. I have a question about AmiSSL. On my OS 3.9 Amiga with 8 mb of fast RAM, Ibrowse can't find AmiSSL. What should I do?

Protip: If you disable JavaScript in IBrowse it will provide a significant boost, especially so on my 030 machine. The crude JavaScript support is so out of touch with today's modern JavaScript that so far in all cases of my testing, I have encountered no difference in the JS vs non JS page

I remember the first time I got my Amiga 2000 online as painful as it was it was still cool. At that time I was using a CBM A2065 network card with an AUI to Ethernet Adapter and at 10mbs is painfull but it allowed me to transfer files on my network. I changed that out with an XSurf-100 with a Rapid Roads USB Board. My A2000 has an A2630 with 130mb RAM. I also put an XSurf-100 with Rapid Road into my A4000/040. I am about to install a network card to the Vampire in my A600. I have PCMCIA Network cards I can use on in my A1200 which has a 68030 and 72mb RAM. So hardware wise I could easily run iBrowse and the money is not the issue but my making use of the software is. Having watched your video and Chris Edwards and the things he has been doing I am somewhat leaning towards making the purchase but I am still on the fence as you can understand and its not an issue of not being able to afford the software. I love my Amiga's and I told my kids when I pass if they just go and sell them off I will come back and hunt them and not in a good way.

hi doug, hope you can help me with an ibrowse issue, I cant get the colours right in the windows of ibrowse where you type in the address of the webpage your wanting to go to, i just seem to get white background and white text so therefore cant read it, ive tried lookingn through mui5 settings and ibrowse settings and cant seem to fix it? have you even maybe got an ibrowse or mui prefs/config you could send me from your if you dont have the same issue?

nice review Doug, for get wifi software for my CD32 I had to paid the Amazing price of 84 € ! hope my wife won't see or I will be crucified ! 13 years ! what a mess ! ok, it's awesome to have new software nowadays for our Amiga's but it's nonsense and made a more decent price will help to make the Amiga a more popular and easiest facility to use his great values, don't make this Amiga to much elitist , they use our passion for these computer for get the more money....... I will test yours tips for get more speed, and I wait my beautiful tee-shirt ! cheers . ps : and I took Roadshow digital and CD version (nice boxe) for 5 euros more, expensive but I have some physical CD that can use on CD32 yeah ! less frustrated feeling !

I absolutely agree with you on the pricing. I would buy it for $30, but not at the current price. Even though I did buy IBrowse back in the 90s, all I can find today is the order number, not the license key, and I don't think that will get me anywhere. So no 2.5.2 for me until they lower the price.

Hi Doug, what version of MUI you decided to install? On Ibrowse documentation it seems that 3.9 is preferred to 3.8. Your 060 and my v1200 can surely handle even mui 5.0 but I have not tried anything above 3.8 version of MUI on my systems

I had been having a lot of trouble with AmiSSL 4.4 and everything web related in both latest iBrowse and even old AWeb grinding to a halt. Downloaded again from the iBrowse downloads page on a PC and copied over to my Amiga and this time installed the 020,030,040 version and not the 060 version and things seem to be working again. NOTE: This is on a A500 w Vampire 500 v2+ core 2.11 expethernet device and Roadshow. I also had to completely power down and restart for things to start behaving. A warm reboot wouldn't cut it.

What device you use for Framegrabbing?

Totally agree... I've thought about buying iBrowse multiple times, but just can't justify it... I would buy it $30... I've used 2.4 in the past and it was OK for what I used it for... When I got my 3.2, I did a clean install and I installed AWeb... Not iBrowse... Yeah, it's better. Yeah, I could reinstall 2.4 with the key that is out there. But I decided that AWeb does what I need OK... Is iBrowse better than AWeb? Yeah, but not worth pirating and/or paying $60 better... IMHO

i sooo agree with you.. they still haven't lowered the price yet tho : (

Hmm with the lha command line utility I've always used it with the 'x' option not the 'e' option. Is there a difference?

i always (in forever) used "lha x filename ram:" to uncompress .lha, i never used "lha e"... what exactly is the difference? and yeah, bundling ibrowse and roadshow for a reasonable price would be really a good idea! btw. does ibrowse 2.5 support "private" browsing without setting cookies, website history and so on?

Here is another Idea (I also think it is a little bit pricey)... I don't know how to do it technically yet, and it would suck Amiga network bandwidth (which is already not that high) but in their Browser (not the displayed HTML page) reduce the clickable icon size (which are huge) to display (I don't know what the image sizes required by Google to get "ads revenue" but why not have a continues ads running under the menubar in between the HTML page? Maybe it technically could be done by running a custom webserver that streams the ads IBrowse? Hell it could be a Android app on a custom server maybe that redirects it's contents to IBrowse? anyway the technical parts could sure be worked out... I would not mind (every mobile app I use has some form of ads anyway) so adds running at the top corner would not bother me... Maybe they could get loads of money and the Amiga users get a superb browser for "free" :-) Ah well just an idiotic idea :-)

Thank you very much. Can you do Ibrowse 2.5.2 vs Netsurf 3.10dev?

What do you think of Netsurf?

Man the inconsistency in your Amiga’s icons is driving me crazy! Defaults mixed with newer icon packs. Man I tried for ages to bug iBrowse 2.4. I actually own a legit license for a previous version. Oh there’s an upgrade path! Sweet! You mentioned not being able to access Gmail through iBrowse, but surely you can still access it through POP3 on YAM. Also... Stop making videos that tempt me to spend money!

Hi doug, i have some trick who irritate me lol ! , I wanna do same you, put the clock on my desktop, right click , leave out , but when I reboot she's gone ! , snapshot also don't make any difference.i'm on classic workbench 3.1 , the commands are little bit different, "leave out" is not on top menu but on the icon (right click), if you have a idea.and I search how to put website on buttons :) edit : ok I find out for shortcut ! awesome !!

Time traveler Doug :)

£19.99 upgrade price. Uk prices always seems to match dollar numbers.

Did you try to use dropbox with it? I wont pay 59 bucks for this update, really. My demo version that I’ve used for years works ok for me, could as well use the 2.5.2 demo. 30 bucks? Maybe. 20? Yes

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... right, they left money - the price is to high. I downloaded the demo version. and I got the 2.4.2. if I realy need to browse longer. Bad, but I would buy it - but 59,- EUR is far to high... The point is correct - the new Workbemch 3.1.4.1. is cheaper ... Will write an email.

Are the developers German I wonder?

I love jou videos. Thx for a lot of known to think of all these things but pl contact me i would like your old a3000 tower just to give my new aa3000 ++ a temporarily place to stay save i gave the busboard for a towwer and i can build parts that are missing but i need a base