I think an injustice has been done. To kill Mark Hamil off from Star Wars. Plus Han Solo. Pretty soon you're not going to have any star characters that made this movie great. Then to replace these actors that with actors no one has seen before. Disney its time to go back to the drawing board !

7:27 Did anyone notice that?

General kenobi!

I know! In the next one, Luke wakes up and finds its all been a terrible Sith Lord mind trick, like the one given to Anakin Skywalker his dad, by the Emperor to betray the Jedi? He wakes up, and the story follows the one originally written by George Lucus, Han Solo survives, and Princess Leia is a political leader of the Alliance, not space Mary poppins.

They really need to do Star Wars The Luke Skywalker Saga

He’s just as invested in his films as his fans are. Mark Hammil is a pretty dang dedicated actor

I can only immagine hes followed with interest the progression of his character and how the broad Star Wars story went over the years after his part and he liked it, then he got super excited he could come back and reivsit it....only to find his character was now an illogical and clumsy plot device that then dies.... I'd be pissed and angry and barely containing it too hah.

666th like skl

@@GG-bj6uy Your A Filipino

It's good to force project into the other side of the Galaxy without dying..

I wanted Luke to be like Gandalf the Grey.

This

See this is the only thing why you hate the movie. Because you can't understand that Luke is no true Jedi and that he has emotions like anybody else.

I was ok with him being a hermit, what really bothered me was the fact he realized how absolute the Jedi were just like the Sith but dropped the chance of introducing an adaptation of Grey Jedi and in the end he just kept being all fussy to die and shit supporting the Jedi.

I wanted luke to be both

What a disservice all this was. Such a missed oportunity.

same, he says it with such a sad and dissapointed honesty... :(

Sadly... it can never be back together with carrie fisher gone...

When Mark said " during the Rey/kylo lightsaber battle..( or just before) when kylo uses his force power to draw the lightsaber taken from Finn embedded in the snow.. " what a magical and awesome way to bring Luke back on screen ,..having Luke catch the air born saber!" and boom!!!! Movie magic! Crowd goes wild! The best part of that is I had genuinely said that same thing before hand! Hey Rian Johnson ..step aside I'll take it from the top you fool! J.J gave the audience a nice gift to be excited about...and you acted like a spoiled punk taken it away in such a cruel, selfish, meaningless way...what the hell? These movies are for us! Not for your own personal satisfaction! And Damm you for stepping on every crew/cast member of TFA! And all there efforts to bring a epic back to life! You suck as a human being man!

Sucks that they all got screen time but not all together in a scene... JJ fault on that...

Yo! He is walking the tightrope cause in a bunch of instances it's so 👀😳😮 WHOA... Dude he is sitting right next to you and you are kindaaaa dogging him, but then he will manage to save it somehow

Sankofa NYC Its okay Rian is too stupid to realize it

Nikko Pikko straight up!!!

From Jedi Master to Master of Passive Aggressiveness

Ruin Johnson really FUBARed the sequel. I say what a buffoon and jackass. He didn’t know much of anything about the saga. He finally admitted it.

Sure! And I pretty sure that time will pass and Mark will tell us the truth.

NoTime Forthis Hell yeah

NoTime Forthis In a good way or a bad way?

The movie made no sense. It was bewildering to watch. Nobody had clear reasons for doing what they were doing, and there was no world building, or backstory to how we got there ( TFA sucked too). It’s militarily incompetent on every battle scene and the movie goes out of it’s way to diminish every heroic act (Finn) the characters might do. Mark was calling that out. Take that for if it’s good or bad. I thought the movie was trash

Hamill is the Master now. Rian devolved into a Gungan.

Solara Solarwind i think he should have wielded his saber on the bitches!!

I mean he is a Jedi master

with tact and diplomacy as how the Jedi speak to people. For all the flag I give the Jedi Order, Mark is a perfect fit for it.

Just imagine Mark Hamill in the KZfaq comment section ;)

He's trying to be nice

aanler Christmas Vacation: “If you believe in your mom and you believe in y...y-your dad...”😂

That long pause says it all.

Rian and his effeminate, beta, soy-fueled laugh.

Who spells Ryan like that tho

@@yoursleepparalysisdemon1828 people who know how the real guys name is spelled

Yup

Big sad ;(

Mark is a boomer with true wisdom.

Obi: Before the dark times, before JJ Abrams.

This will be forever a lesson in film making on what NOT to do.

Daniel Clark Absolutely😱! It’s incredible how diplomatic and respectful he’s trying to be.

There's something about Rian’s condecending smile you just want to punch.

Even Daisy Ridley noticed 😄

@@JDGage And he's directing the new new trilogy, which is why I declared last night I'm never going to see another Star Wars movie again. I'm done with the franchise as a whole, I'll play the new game and that's it. I won't even watch Mandalorian, just hearing about Baby Yoda makes me want to pray that Order 66 comes early in this universe.

not enough

Freddy That whole part of the video breaks my heart.

Freddy :'(

Same :/

biggest wasted opportunity in ALL cinema history

@@codymckibben by people who cannot even comprehend tye opportunity they had

I mean really, is anyone surprised this happened? I knew the moment Disney bought the franchise that they were just going to start cranking out shit Star Wars films because they knew people would go see them. They never needed to be good to be profitable.

Obviously, this man was Star Wars so it is obvious for him to be shocked and disappointed for what they did to his character

Disney is barely the problem. They are doing very well with the anthologies and mandolorian. It’s just bad directing.

Let's not forget it was Lucasfilm and their leadership that's responsible for all of this nonsense. Disney reallt hasn't done much to be involved in the "creativity" of this main trilogy.

@@lvans010 yes they are. In case you haven't noticed that Kathleen Kennedy is directly involved and overseeing the sequel trilogy, unlike the side stories like Rogue One and Mandolorian which turned out really good.

True. Anyone who has seen The Empire Strikes Back can back up this fact.

Luke was a more complicated character than you are trying to make him seem. Absolutely no one - especially one as burdened as Luke - would stay in a a situation where he has completely failed everyone and every thing he loved. You are saying that Luke would just be like “ Hey Leia, I turned your son to the dark side but no harm no foul right?”. Luke became disillusioned with the Jedi order because according to their ways, killing any Sith is the right thing to do and so killing Kylo was right according to their ways and so he discarded their ways and escaped the fallout from what had happened to instead revert to the simple life he once had as a farm boy - quite poetic.

Coding Time yoda and obi-wan list everyone and everything they loved at the hands on Anakin. Like Obi-Wan said, he was like a brother to him. They both went into hiding, but neither gave up. Neither changed who they were. You can have dramatic arcs without completely rewriting the character.

Alex Rydin Yoda changed dramatically and Obi -Wan matured. My point is that this Luke isn’t completely rewritten and his recognizable impulse showed when he tried to kill Ben and his childishness showed in his scenes with Rey. This isn’t Luke rewritten, this is just a different side of him; a different direction other than the archetype hero we started off with and as far as I am concerned, that is great!

Coding Time amazing, every word of what you said was wrong

You can feel the tension between them.

I think if the other cast members were a bit more experienced they would of backed Mark up but they are new to the industry so scared of being blacklisted

Exactly what I said when I saw TLJ... Why would Luke risk everything to save his father but give up so easily on his nephew? That's not Luke.

@@Darkmoon75 yep, or even being a jedi living on an island, remember a young Luke saying "I wanna be a jedi like my father, to there should be no more jedi

@@larrycollinslarrdogg8277 Exactly so.

@LiveTheWildtrue that, still dont c Luke trying to him

Time has the ability to change our perceptions

Can't tell you how many vids I've seen of a band playing a song -and the guitar player starts this amazing solo, and the camera is on anyone BUT the soloist. 'The camera should be on the solo'. Rian Johnson: "Absolutely, so let's not do that."

Rey saying "Skywalker," at the end seems like a cheap way to tie it together and it fell flat

they need to do the Thrawn Trilogy... BUT. I think the only way to do it right would be to do it as an animated series a la Clone Wars or Rebels. 1 season for each book so 3 seasons in all. can't do them as films. too much to condense. it'd lose too much

@@quantanglement ironically the skywalker was the solo xd

Anakin Skywalker specifically

Yeah, I respect that even though he has to say positive things to promote the movie, he still chooses to be optimistic in a genuine way, rather than trying to fake it.

Mr. Hamill is being super diplomatic. He will ALWAYS have the high ground.

the pause was him sucking back down the bile rising in his throat

Poor Hamill, saying that "line" must have hurt his pride pretty badly

Gray Fox no...Nooo..NOOOO!!!!!

Haha it’s funny how he even hesitated to try and say it cause that line made me mad

www.nooooooooooooooo.com/

Hamill isn't afraid to show Rian Johnson who Luke Skywalker really is.

There never was any vision. Ruin johnson lied.

i'm sure the paycheck he got helped ease the pain

@@robzilla730 atleast he was kind of honest

@@robzilla730 thats more then most actors

The people who are ignorant enough to like it are the one's who should be apologizing. I mean, I get you can have your own opinion or whatever. But I've noticed a very common thread with people who like this dog shit film, and it's that they ALSO like other movies that are universally agreed to be horrific, e.g. Sam Raimi's Spider-Man 3. No I am not kidding. There is a relatively substantial group of people on twitter who all suck each other off because they specifically love The Last Jedi and Spider-Man 3. Retards.

@SunTai Not disney tbh. It's the script writers, J.J. and ryan are so fcking awefull

thing is, he DOES like it. all these videos saying he hates it cut out the part where he admits he actually likes it

@@titanium_rocket1505 i saw full interviews so i doubt it.

Mark Hamill didn't like what they did to his character in The Empire Strikes Back and The Return of the Jedi either, does the Original Trilogy suck now?

Well , SW didn't die , we need to forget this last movies

That's right! Just like in Episode 3 lol

While thats a nice quote i feel its more a roar of boos and shouting as opposed to applause lmao

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@@youtubevision6452 Star Wars that died some knock-off version of Star Wars that Disney is producing is dying I don't know why you said Star Wars is dying though cuz I know there's a knock-off show called Star Wars Last Jedi that went downhill and I'm pretty sure Star Wars is suing them to because of how close their name is to the actual Star Wars series

It doesnt seem s , hard to imagine it probably goes . Somewhere along the. Lines of this story is stupid and I dident really have faith but I wanted to make the fans happy =( yeah this entire situation sucks

@@thinktempest7457 The fact that he calls it like it is in the first minute is telling in how this entire trilogy was planned without an outline. Which is apparent with the differences so far in both TFW, and TLJ.

Clearly..and yeah I bet even the director ( sorry his name isn't sticking in my mind) is seeing his respectful tact. I did see him in a late night show bluntly say "I think they are taking Star Wars in the wrong direction." I'm sure fans got the gist of that comment. I have to admit, I'm still hoping Abrams is going to repair the damage and Luke is the Skywalker being referred to in the title.

I know what he would say he would say it sucked like hell. I was so disappointed with the new Star Wars movies

Nah he actually is kind enough of a man to still like Rian Johnson. Your wrong about him he is like Skywalker. His opinion is that of a man who can see the GOOD even in Rian Johnson. He clearly tried to show us all you can disagree and be upset or mad with some one and not let take you over and have still good faith in them. So I think he'd tell you not to bags him and not to give in to all the anger and shit . The man in these interviews is trying to be the luke who gave us HOPE. That is what he's doing here trying to warn us but not drive us into pure rage and anger. He's very good at talking and not getting people wrathful and crazy. Don't hate on Rian as a person. He's probably ok. He just fucked up our childhood movie is all... They say George did the same. (Not nearly as bad mind you ) If luke can see the good in.vader and Rian I'll do the same. The man really wanted to make a good movie he's just ignorant and bliss .. maybe dumb too

RIP Star Wars

When a guy like Hamill (there from the beginning - OT) tells you something is wrong here - you should give it some thought. But, they stubbornly went ahead and just did what they wanted to.

But the movie was funded by woke feminists who wanted to make whamen look good by making male characters look bad or incompetent, so the director couldn't do a damn thing even if he wanted to.

To be fair, some of the blame for these movies also lies with fans who liked what was being done. Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni fortunately are not listening to any fans like them.

I have no idea why Rian decided to shoot that as a gag- it's so awkward and weird and I wonder if he set out to use the property to make a comedy film I.e. Richard Lester with Superman III

Daniel Preece Amen!

I never trusted him ESPECIALLY after The Farce Awakens

ASMR Ross why wouldn’t you just not trust the person who ACTUALLY directed it lol

Because I never trusted JJ either

J J yeah that movie was a dumpster fire

Preach baby preach!

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Mark literaly said that he would work with Rian again.

@Here in the Wired Because Disney would destroy his career.

@@hereinthewired3515 Saying something publicly, yea ALWAYS means he means it.

@@AbsoluteAbsurd He actually hates when fans use his words out of context or say that he was paid by Disney. Mark is a cool guy, his fans not so much.

@@hereinthewired3515 yes, because cognitive dissonance. He's had to convince himself he can trust Ryan because he already trusted Ryan and doesn't want to think about how painful that actually was.

Synyster Goose he was the most powerful and feared Jedi in history, at least in the eyes of the First Order. Why else would the first Order be so hell bent on finding and killing him?

@@livingspaceart7653 Exactly. His Force Projection alone is a show of just how powerful in the Force he is. And he managed to defeat Kylo and cheat him of his misguided vengeance without even needing to throw a single punch.

Aaron Alexander that scene just shows that Luke was a badass right to the end. I could watch it n repeat for hours.

@@livingspaceart7653 While I certainly understand Mark Hamill's reservations and even complaints about Ryan Johnson's take on Luke, the fact Mark Hamill was able to put on such a performance and remind us that even if this isn't the same Luke we knew long ago, he is still Luke Skywalker. And even though his time has passed, he's facing it knowing that he fulfilled Yoda's final wish to pass on what he had learned. Both his successes and his failures. Something no other Jedi was able to do in the long, sadly self-rightous history of the Order.

He wasn't the Chosen One, so he was never gonna be!

Paul Kent Absolutely great comment.

As long as Hollywood studios keep pouring out that kind of content, people will continue to go along with it. You have to understand what is and is not a waste of your time as a moviegoer, or anything else. Because you deserve that quality of entertainment, just like from a musician or a comedian.

I wanted to walk out on the movie, but I just could´nt leave my cousins to be tortured all alone

You get the quality of entertainment you deserve. Despite all the hate - people still bought the DVD. Forget about walking out of the theaters anymore, they are incapable of doing that - forget about not buying the DVD to send a message. They will reboot this, after reboot after reboot - and the people will continue to suck the blue milk from the tit - and still pay for seconds.

Can't walk out. Reason is I want to be able to say I saw the entire crappy product.

Actually he does, but so eloquently that Ryan Johnson and the other idiots don't get it.

Actually he constantly eludes to it and says it in round about ways where people think he is joking unless you catch his little telltale he throws in afterwards to let you know he's actually serious.

To put it in other words: Mark Hamill is REALLY smart.

I agree. Then, to prevent the training from being a copy of Dagobah in V they could make a central point be Rey struggling with the dark side - which would tie in well with 9 with her being a Palpatine.

Bro just that sentence you wrote could have played out a better story than all of what we have. Imagine instead of Rey being OP against Palpatine in 9, Luke brings his new Jedi order and they actually fairly beat Palpatine(given that luke doesn't stupidly die lol)

@@alphax101-gaming2 That would make sense, I also don't think they made Rey OP to beat palpatine, but rather made Palpatine "underpowered" by being dumb and shooting lightning at his own face, Rey didn't do anything extraordinary in that fight. Although I still think Palpatine used the useless-against-sabers-lightning because he wanted Rey to kill him and he entered Rey when she did.

@@Me-wk7dz lol im guessing you watched star wars theory's video

@@alphax101-gaming2 I actually don't think I have but cool to see he agrees, I think it's not just a possibility Palpatine entered Rey but is actually the most rational explanation of the ending of IX.

This is so well put lmfao.

Lol

Meanwhile, inside Rian's mind: *heehee tiddy milk*

What kind of humor is that? I love it

Rian did what was important for Rian, he subverted expectations.

Why not? What are they going to do, kill off his character? All he has to do is be careful enough not to violate any contractual obligations in his comments. I'm sure there are legal repercussions for outright badmouthing the movie due to contracts, but he is getting his displeasure out anyway. Good on him.

Mark has done a lot of other work, but lets be real, his LEGACY will be Star Wars. This is his one chance to publicly get on record to defend himself and perhaps the character of Luke Skywalker. He may have a lot more to say later on, once they won't come after him for contractual obligations. But who knows if the cameras will be rolling or any one will pay attention? He has to say it now.

There should not be social cues against real honesty.

Thatwouldbeme I think the word is ignoring not missing lol

@@Nick-jb4xi a lot of people know him as the joker too...

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Don’t forget Ewan

BUDDYYYYYYY

This aged well

@@elliewilliams9746 It’s good to have you back General

Hired someone who’s an idiot *

Luke doesn’t think they are a hindrance at all The reason he gave up is because one of his trainees turned on everyone

A hindrance to the galaxy? In what way? Even in the prequels the jedi were spread thin and it was the republic and their corruption that lead to more systems joining the separatists and those 2 factions fought in war. Even if you take Palpatine and anakin out the picture dooku and the separatist were waging war across the galaxy. After order 66 the empire took over and the jedi order was no more. How was the jedi the problem here? In the sequels even though kylo killed the other jedi and went to the darkside the galaxy at large wasn't fucked up because of the jedi, or kylo personally, the first order was the chief offender. I don't see how the jedi even in the sequels timeline had anything to do with the shape of the universe.

Basically, he was saying that Abrams wrote him into a corner with his dumbass decision to leave Luke on some island in the middle of nowhere.

Once she kills the Kylo off, there can only be one style, she will finally be the last Jedi and bring order while ruling the universe.

Because she’s a woman😂

Didn't you watch the film? She took the sacred Jedi texts with her when she left and before the tree was burnt down by yoda

well, with the jedi text she took from the tree. the real question is how they are going to make a "skywalker saga" out of this. without copying the original trilogy of course.

Force ghost Luke and Yoda and whoever else could help her.

I honestly would love that cos it would make Disney see at least a shred of sense

He should have torn up the contract when he was handed the script of The Force Awakens.

@@duvaughnkelly6947 of course he can’t just abandon us. But sometimes he has to take one for the team since he’s on our side.

I do wonder how much push back he gave. I think the resulting crap (which to be honest, I've not even watched) could be said to be partly Mark's fault for going along with it even knowing it was crap.

He and Ron Howard.

George lucas should have directed the sequels... we miss you George

Josh Kane yes I don't believe there's any way to turn this around either. Such a cold a premeditated assassination of an Idol it's unbelievable. What did they possibly think would happen...

Josh Kane they really did man. What a fucking tragedy.

I hear ya, I think the problem is that the original films were never meant to be a "franchise", The moment Disney saw this as a money maker, well, then we end up with soulless s*** !

Josh Kane Star Wars fans just don't understand a good movie when they see one. Oh well.

Chris Mcmackin I didn’t say it was a bad movie. In fact, Asa stand-alone its a very good movie. But it’s the absolute wrong movie for the story. Imagine if Someone made a Tolkien follow up to LOTR and immediately killed Frodo off and started toying with the original characters. You’re going to have a new generation that love it, and piss off the generation that made the franchise successful in the first place.

Axiom Ape Amen!

Axiom Ape no like. For real. It actually doesn’t make ANY sense. For real if you explain this story to a 4 year old they wouldn’t get it.

Joe Valenitni Funny you should say that, I watched a critic review of TLJ on a youtube channel and he explained that you can use the child test to see if the plot makes sense. A kid should be able to understand the story if it's sensible (of course extreme detail is not expected for a kid to understand, but the basic story) when you explain it to them. Kids familiar with Star Wars wouldn't understand why certain things happened in TLJ.

Of course we love Star Wars and of course there were good moments in TLJ who can deny that? But the overall story and character arcs were so cringy and out of place that I just can't bring myself to get excited over it. I know this is true because I have the opportunity to buy the DVD and just don't have the normal passion and excitement to.

Axiom Ape beautifully said

That's because she's dressed like a lesbian librarian in that first interview. Also, she doesn't understand what a Mary Sue is. I mean demonstrably so (in various interviews) like she has no idea what it means, but is still offended by it at the same time. She's probably well outside of her comfort zone listening to big words like "reservations" and "radical re-imaginings".

Buck Atoms, because she knows. Poor Daisy. She knows she is being written as the most hated Star wars charcter ever. I liked TFA. They could have done so much better with Rey. Then Ruin Johnson happened.

Could be holding in a fart

Kevin Smith - 🤣

Maybe they talked very harshly to her because she tends to tell stuff they rather not be made public.

I don't doubt Mark would have messed up something, but that's what teams are supposed to be for: to be each other's "seeing eye dogs" as Mark himself had put it.

I wouldn't say he knows what's best for Star Wars, but he does know Luke, and he knows at least some of the expanded universe. And i would love to see something he directed (if he directs at all) Anything would be better than the terrible Action-Comedy Rian gave. It was essentially Michael Bay Transformers, but with Star Wars paint; Actiony-snack, no meat, and some cringy joke toppings/seasoning. Personally, I feel the best thing for Star Wars was to leave it alone, and actual make a new trilogy. Knights of the old Republic style. Set far in the past, or far in the future, something actually new.

Having had Mark direct would have been Brilliant. That is a GREAT suggestion man.

HAHAHAHA ARE YOU SERIOUS

...or Gareth Edwards (sry if i spell his name wrong)

scott b. No. Mark was right. 7 and 8 was not his story anymore because that Luke was not the Luke he had been portraying. The Luke of 7 and 8 was Abrams and Johnson's creation. Mark only portrayed it.

​@@TheRivrPrncesswhat about nine (the rise of Skywalker)? I think that Luke is we all knew because Luke meets obi wan's force ghost and rey finally meet force ghost

And likely rebuild the Jedi Order, likely train some new recruits in safety and secrecy.

That would've meant Rian had an actual plan. All his imagination was used on Looper. I do like that movie though.

It didn't fly over his head but as Mark says at some point in this video (when Hamill was talking about the "Evil Luke" theory for example) Rian Johnson just scorns the idea of doing anything the fans may have predicted already and sadly what you are saying would be far too predictable for the likes of the esteemed Rian Johnson to follow. Like the man scorns the idea that fans can be smart and creative so he rejects all the fan theories for that reason, but if you are going to do something different at least make it believable. RJ seemed to completely fail at that and the interactions between him and Hamill in these interviews seem to make it clear that Hamill saw this train wreck coming and RJ simply is too much of an arrogant asshole to adopt good fan theories and would rather do something with shitty writing as long as expectations were "subverted"

The Chainsaw Squirrel There’s a few huge flaws with that. A: In TFA Han said that he disappeared because he blamed himself for Kylo. B: Even if he were training, he’d have felt that shift from Kylo and Snoke gaining more control and from Han dying, so if he wasn’t disconnected from the Force it would seem like he’s actively ignoring the problem. C: Luke had already rejected the advice of his old Jedi mentors on wether he should kill Vader or not. If Luke got physically involved, he’d have to put Kylo down which is something Luke could never do. RIan Johnson didn’t just decide to make Luke a recluse, J.J. did. RIan had to write a way that puts Luke on a secluded planet for a good reason. To that end, he went the Lucas route and put him In self imposed exile for his failure in order to explain his absence as he did with Yoda

The Chainsaw Squirrel this is my head canon reason. He was there trusting the force to bring an apprentice because he saw it in a vision and that would be the marker to the time to come back!

This is so accurate it hurts.

This hurts deep. But I guess it's good to be pushed out of my comfort zone....

At least Pong Krell wasn't a retarded man-baby.

This was not Mark caring about his art. There was no art to care about with the horrible story. He was just doing what Ryan wanted. When Mark complained to Ryan is when he was caring about his art. And there are some artists who will give fans what they want even though it is wrong so the fans can see(after the fact) that what they wanted was not good and they should have let the actor and creator of the character decide what is right to do. Many fans of TFA and TLJ realized this and now do not like those movies or the third one.

Haha, that was a great and sad joke...

Well, he is the Joker

britbloc123 Yeah but I believe that JJ will fix Luke!

@@skywalkerorder2839 bruv hes dead

Lord Ch3sky 😂👌🏻

Epic cash grab. Dropping hints about bringing back the Emperor, Luke, even a glimpse of Han and Anakin. You can tell JJ and Disney are panicking and pulling out every trick in the book to get people to see the movie. They won't get a dime from me though. But whatever I'm sure the movie will do it's job and make millions.

@@memphisraines8118 hehehe I'm a FaN bOy dIsNey tHinG bAd hehe

It actually happened in SW Legends. Which Disney threw out the window when they made TFA.

@@blackout1406 they threw it out and window, kept a few pages and changed some names around.

A Commando 38 we'll need some explosives to rearrange some of these architecture.

which is why mark really wanted a scene with all 3 of them together...but Rian johnson didnt make this film for SW fans

petersaturday That & putting his milking fetish in the film, as well as a very poorly implemented critique of capitalism. This was his movie with a Star Wars skin & was only done to bolster his career as a dating director prepared to do what nobody else is willing to. Even though nobody else was willing to drastically change Luke Skywalker for a reason. Even JJ had Luke in Jedi robes in TFA with a solem, knowing expression on his face.

I don't have so much as a problem with a director wanting to maintain their artistic vision, be bold, do their own thing etc. but there's a difference between that and doing the same thing with a middle finger waved at the establishment for shits and giggles.

Anything after the events of Return of the Jedi isn’t canon as far as I’m concerned

petersaturday selfish prick honestly. Ya blew it Rian. Ya blew it.

I have no problem with Luke dying, but have him go with respect, dying to save the resistance in person. Have him train Rey, and tell her why she's so powerful, maybe make her a wound d in the force. But no. Rey is a Mary sue for no reason besides "She is a strong independent women who dont need no man!!", and Luke is a pathetic old man who tossed away not just his lightsaber, but his father's lightsaber for a cheap gag.

Yeah, I bet it was even harder after Carrie’s passing

Lol

I still haven't even seen TLJ. It's just SO hard to convince myself to sit in front of a screen for 2 hours to watch a movie SW fans call okay at best. I love the original trilogy, watched the prequels once and that was enough, and TFA while basically being ANH was also pretty darn good. I think I'm just going to wait till Ep9 is released and see what people are saying.

@@StudioBrock1337 TFA compared to TLJ is a masterpiece, they built up so much hype in TFA only to completely F*CK us over in TLJ, watch TLJ and make your own opinion, the story sucks but at least it has the best visuals of all star wars movies so far.

Not me. I LOVED it!

ThAdonis “There’s no such thing as truth serum”

Almighty Supreme Leader Weegee Truth serum is what officials essentially call a range of different psychoactive drugs. It has been used in interrogations since the early 20's. We can't really know if it's a practice that's still used, I wouldn't doubt it though since it's one of the most effective and relative harmless ways to get the truth out of someone. It is very much real, my friend.

LazyMe420 Notice the quotation marks please.

Oops..I spoke the England not very well sometimes, so I didn't get. Point made My bad :P

LazyMe420 Sorry for bad English, I’m from France.

Ray takes the name of Skywalker at the end, even though she isn’t

I Just think that Disney Star Wars don't exist

it takes Leia more seriously than Luke.

robin wells I feel exactly the same, and i wish i could like your comment more than once ;)

Its the reason I feel no more need to watch further films

Robin FPV ..or enter a parallel universe where it was a good film!

That was my view, but my friend got a job on set for Episode 9, so I gotta see it to support her. Also, I’m writing my first ever fan fiction of TLJ that I use what was in the trailers to create an entirely different story that is still faithful to Star Wars. If I finish it, I’ll send you the link to get your thoughts

@@thomaspappalardo7589 I'd be pretty interested to see it too, have fun writing it!

Please

Or a clown as a stand up comedian

Rico Williams he said it because most of twitch thots are doing gaming because most of gamers are horny teens with access to their parents money

lmfao

TLJ has TONS of callbacks to the OT and prequels. You might not like him but he is a fan. Not your type of fan perhaps but he does know SW pretty well.

This is what annoys me. People have cited many (alleged) plot problems but NO ONE has ANY EVIDENCE that Rian hates SW. Can anyone honestly point to me an article or page actually citing evidence for this claim??

Give Disney emergency powers!

Honestly Jar Jar Binks is more trustable in making a trilogy that rian Johnson

Jar jar may be a Sith Lord but even he doesn’t deserve to be compared to rian.

You mean Darth Jar Jar

but jar jar is the best waifu

TBH shoulda had Hamill direct it. Even if he went egomaniac about luke it still would have been better

Yeah, she's fidgeting quite a bit. And certainly looks uncomfortable.

Crawfishies It's like a bitter pill to swallow. He's trying convince himself it makes sense but he knows it's garbage and a Disney should be deeply deeply ashamed.

Oh, I definitely noticed. It made me laugh.

Jose Ssegovia there's a sniper in the back

Jose Ssegovia a contract letting a company control what you say for an amount of time will do that

Jose Ssegovia ... and that is because he is. 😔

Mark is just a generally nice guy and he understands that you can potentially destroy people's careers with what you say in the industry. He doesn't like to come out and slam people like most of the Hollyweird elites.

Egg shells mixed with broken glass

skull222k it would have been amazing for sure

Probably nothing better... just a different kind of mediocre. Look at the crap that he made of the Rise of Skywalker.

Dan Hitchman personally I think the reason TROS wasn’t good is because JJ spent a lot of time trying to erase some things in the Last Jedi. I’m wondering what would happen if we let him have the whole trilogy so he can continue his vision but TFA wasn’t great so I think the trilogy wouldn’t be as good as the PT or the OT

yes he did, he tried to save the veracity of the star wars story which he was one of those who started it, but the new age rian chose to ruin that.

No. He is pandering to ComCon fans, almost regurgitating their comments. This is the same guy who approached Lucas about Luke killing Vader and taking his place and being hurt when Lucas said no. There is a reason Hamill hasn't successfully written or directed in his career. Hamill is bitter and, like I said, being savvy in getting the crowd on his side. I've never understood fans who place Luke above all else: these post RTJ views of him. Maybe if I liked his character and saw him as the savior I'd maybe understand. But Vader or rather Annakin brought balance, not Luke. Vader, as a parent, recognized love and thus an act to save. Luke, as Obi Wan knew, was a piece and part in Annakins story. Those are the nuances of Luke Hamill either missed or in his fan seeking adoration pushes aside. Realize that Luke learned about the force when he was too old. He always had anger issues and was impulsive. His father saves him in the end...the father and son bond. The idea Luke would go on to be this perfect, strong jedi is not only nonsensical but lazy. Rian nailed Luke, and in part played up Hamill's own personal bitterness and the Luke fanboys in a brilliant way. I think Hamill would do well to go back and read some Joseph Campbell.

@@christopherorman5769 meh

@@christopherorman5769 ok boomer.

Christopher Orman ok. Boomer

He fuckin HATES this movie, he just TRIES to be a bit diplomatic so not too much shit flows in the fan haha. But ye he obviously fuckin hates the thing-.

Hes speaking pretty damn honestly and condescendingly.

themccman

His body language shows that

He always look like he’s an inch away from fucking sleeping him whenever they’re within 5 feet of each other

so is the sentence, ‘you have no choice but to trust... Ryan (but you’d rather not).

Just clarify on the topic, I had problems with this film but it still had Star Wars elements to it. I’m still sold on Kylo Ren’s story, but I wish they didn’t kill off Snoke. He should have been the overall antagonist like the Emperor was in the original trilogy. The biggest question I ask is who is going to be main antagonist now, because Kylo still doesn’t seem 100% evil. Anyone have any theories on the matter please let me hear it, because I love talking and debating Star Wars.

Nothing but love for Mark Hamill ❤

@@kellyrobison4624 Im 4 months late but Im convinced Snoke isnt dead. He even hints at his own death before getting cut in half.

Mr SLy You made my day man, true words spoken

Why? Hes rich and played one of the most iconic characters in film history. Hes living the dream

@BalF he probably signed in "blind" because it was star wars and when he got the plot he couldn't pull off.. And tbf harrison ford hate han solo, he probably played 7 only because they killed him while the money was just a bonus...

Ruin Johnson is serving under Kathleen Kennedy, She loved what Ruin did. She killed Star wars

Carrie Cat yep

And another thing I really hated was how they Han Solo. And I really didn't like how they portrayed Leah's character either.. And there's so many questions that we haven't been answered and there was no respect for the characters as they're passing on the mantle to the next generation of Jedi Knights

We waited this long to witness Luke extracting breast milk from an alien sea cows nipple. Thanks Disney 😒

Agreed

Grant Smith Quick somebody gag Mark.

Drama queen

No it was love real love magic joy

Goblintooth it was dumb.

yes and everything around it was too.

Rising Consciousness Awakened Underground you don't know what YOU'RE talking about.

It’s love stupid. Hahahha like French kissing your grandma.

Absolutely. From start to finish, this film was ABUSE to the fandom who care the most.

Call the FBI and the CIA I think we found more Ruski bots.🐸

Stephen Walton I disagree with you wholeheartedly. This was a great Star Wars film. But it’s ok if you don’t agree. That’s your opinion and you have that right. It has its flaws but I love it. Sorry to hear you didn’t feel the same.

Fake news.

Kent Kaliber ahhh the internet. Gotta love it.

Steven Wells s

Subversive Jews gonna subvert.

Steven Wells They can easily change direction and say Luke disappearing was just another force projection not him. Say he used 1 force projection to relay to another one because hee was so far away and people will be fine with it as long as Luke is the hero in the next movie.

They failed as a business too... poor treatment of consumers = backlash. And yet they double down on their anti consumer practices even when losing money

I dont think its Disney. Marvel has done very well with their movies, so Disney clearly isn't the problem. Its Kathleen Kennedy and Rian Johnsons fault for not appealing to the fans, but to themselves.