Don't worry, I started coding in the 1990's, have a degree in software engineering and I always learn something (mostly quite a lot!) from Dave's videos. Never stop learning, there's more to know than one can ever learn.

Don't feel too bad I've been in networking for about 10 years now and still have this issue just about every day when continuing in my studies... it's the blessing and curse of working in the wonderful world of IT and Computer science.

Tbf to yourself, he was in your position 35 years ago. In that time he was exposed to some of the very best engineers on the planet daily, and his brain is physically wired differently. It's hardly a fair comparison. But knowing that you don't know what you don't know so very early in your career is huge and will pay you dividends for many years to come. I wish I had figured that out sooner.

While it is true that Dave could write all the code that chat GTP wrote in this video, there was a time when even Dave was learning this stuff for the first time. When I was going through university they taught us all the different forms of sorting algorithms and binary searches, however these things are now commonly embedded within programming language libraries. Chat GTP is just the next level in tooling. As Dave demonstrated you still need a logical mind to ensure the code is correct and fix bugs.

The replies here brought a smile to my face, very good advice & encouragement! It really is ok to not have a solution to every single thing you face, it’s how you go about finding the solution & learning, that is the valuable part. I’m totally ok with not being as smart as Dave 😊

Awesome, thank you!

They didn’t have dot matrix printers when I was a kid, or was all teletype terminals.

They still have it in my bank

@@kesierzgIn logistics you still see them a lot

​@@waynesworldofsci-techMe too. I hooked one up to a tiny 8bit system. The teleprinter was so noisy it we shifted it to our garage.

@@toby9999 Oh yeah. Those things were epically loud.

You’ll not get a job for sure

​@@abcproduction6819 why does it matter whether chatgpt is your professor vs some human as your professor?

@@abcproduction6819 Yet another anti-ai. Just get used to it already. It's here, it's not going anywhere, and it's going to be used more and more every day. It isn't a creepy monster out to steal your job. It's a great tool that can help in a lot of ways.

Felt like reading myself. You are discussing with other for hours knowing that they also don't know the exact working or cant understand yours question. By the way third year SE student

@@MandrakeDCR it’s not about anti ai. A programmer with chatgpt can do the job of 5 engineers there by eliminating freshers or new software engineer because right now we are shortage of engineers, job will not be replaced it will reduce the number of job opportunities.

Yeah, it has a ways to go - I think only those with a trivial understanding of actual, day-to-day programming think ChatGPT is amazing at this point. There's much more to programming than writing simple little programs... Someday, though, it could be quite useful.

@@JasonBunting True. Yet it is a major leap from wherever we were before.

I have been experimenting with ChatGPT and linux on a rasberry pi using docker just getting my feet wet still learning. Curious what you are having it customize?

@@ChristopherDavis everything. We have our own kernel modules etc. running on an IMX8 and we're updating from an ancient kernel version.

Why tho? What are you people doing on Linux that can't be done on windows?

Very cool, I've never tried that!

@@DavesGarage They're called structured bindings.

Requires C++17

The 68K CPU was nice to program

@@toby9999 I did just enough iAPX-86 assembly to come to loathe it. The 68K's assembly language looked to me quite similar to IBM 370 Assembly, and as you say, quite pleasant to work with. The story I've heard was that the IBM PC got built with the 8088 because the engineers tasked with making the prototype were given a very compressed development schedule, and while they liked the looks of the 68008's specification, they were already familiar with building Intel 8085 systems, and the 8088 used the same support chips.

Yes! I often use it to insert comments in my code. Then I check to make sure the comments are correct. Or I'll use it to even write requirements of some scripts that I had to hammer out. It's a great way to answer my boss when he says "what all do your scripts do?" or "Why do we need your scripts to fix our vendor's output?" Chat GPT misses a few things. I miss a few things that I wanted to talk about. But having a second set of eyes on my code is where ChatGPT really shines.

You DO know it's banned in stackoverflow etc !! - do you know why?!!

Better start using it now, they're going to charge for it starting on Mar. 13.

@@Atheist7 I did not know that. Any idea what estimate pricing might be?

Glad it was helpful!

Augment, yes indeed. Just like visual studio 2022 create a complete working app as a starting place for a new solution. Turbo C wouldn't even write a main() template for me back in the day, hahaha.

It's reasonable to think that... for now. But, the key assumption here is that the AI's abilities are constant. Think of it this way: Today, it can take a simple request, and write a small module of code to accomplish that. (Which, alone, is extraordinary. Like, breathtaking. If this didn't stop you in your tracks the first time you saw it, you're not comprehending just how amazing that actually is.) It is doing this based on information it has consumed from humans, in the often vague and imperfect way that we communicate. If you ask AI to describe the code it wrote, it's often impeccable documentation. Well written, clear, concise but thorough, and accurate. Now imagine what happens when you use _that_ documentation as an input to AI, vs. the man-pages and HTML docs that we've cobbled together as an afterthought. Then, ask it to develop the code that makes up the compilers, interpreters, and libraries that it's using to support the code it writes for you. So now, it not only has better source documentation, but might potentially better understand the source code as well, giving it a whole other layer of insight. After a while, we don't even necessarily care about the libs and compilers and their documentation, since the AI has created them, and the AI uses them to produce code for us. At that point, why ask it to produce code? Why not just ask it to produce a binary? Imagine the efficiency of what it could come up with, if it didn't need to be optimized for human understanding. While all of this is happening, the scale of the AI's intelligence, itself, is increasing in sophistication. In that light, it's not hard to imagine AI being able to craft much larger projects in the future. With today's AI engines? No. But, as AI gets better at writing code, it can potentially start being the tool that's used to create itself. (Not necessarily in the SkyNet sense, but in the "better tools to make better tools" sense.) This will only accelerate the scale of its abilities, as less time is wasted implementing ideas. So. It's not hard to imagine that in a few short years, we could see simple AI-generated applications. Maybe text editors or website generators, or who knows what. It'll probably be a little while before we ask Bing to create a Microsoft Office clone, but maybe not as long as you would think. It just has to get over the hurdle of breaking a large problem into a series of small ones, and then keeping track of how they all fit together. Eventually, it's going to be infinitely better at that than we are.

I have various projects with SQL in stuff like T-SQL from SQL Server, but would like to shift to Postgresql. ChatGPt seems to do a creditable job in translating between dialects of SQL. Lately, I've just been asking for translations to round out SQL Server, Postgresql, MySQL, and SQLite, so I can go almost any which way.

yeah. I've found that it's deceptive. Kind of like getting your answers from stack overflow. There's a lot of "Yes that's right... but not in my case" or situations where the code works but only coincidentally and it's not germane to the goal. This is a fault of the operator(me)... but it's also a fault of the inability to penetrate the spapiential circle of understanding.

Are you sure it was an fx80? I thought so too, but I guess there were many more models of dot matrix printers around at the time. For sure it didn't sound like a Star-NL10 🙂

Neural networks copy and combine. They don't create. It will be able to write something someone else has done (without giving any attribution). But not invent something new. There are no aha moments for a neural net. As for Bitcoin. It was designed to be wasteful. The solution is to simply design another crypto that is less wasteful.

@@RicardoSantos-oz3uj Your own brain is literally a neutral network.

Don’t forget that this thing programs on a whiteboard. Give it a computer to test its own code, and then see what happens.

@@user-nu5ib2ri9o My thinking exactly - give it the ability to actually *do* stuff, and the ability to learn from that, and the results could be world-changing.

I'm interested to see how systems like this can help with early rewriting of handmade SIMD kernels into vector code for the RISC-V V extension; maybe you give it a generic symbolic program that has the same behavior, then the existing SIMD kernels (on whatever platforms they're available for) and then ask for the vectors. I think ChatGPT's current training set has too little RVV code and discussion thereof to do this right now, but a later set might do it quite well.

Lol, You DO know it's banned in the main programming forums such as stackoverflow etc !! - do you know why?!! clue: massive bull + shitter

Don't forget this algorithm is meant to learn, so I won't be surprised if it improves to a point where it can directly spit out optimized machine code. Programming languages will be irrelevant if humans are not involved.

It also was/is? a requirement that your code have that standalone test to make use of the 'multiprocessing' module. That was the case years ago, but I haven't checked it lately.

It's NOT 'AI' - a term that's extremely abused...everywhere today. You know damn well there's ZERO Artificial Intelligence today. Why? if there was, we wouldn't be here. Today's ai is nothing more that an extremely poor pattern matcher.

Yes, I think it will be very strong for creating boilerplates and perhaps the inevitable menial tasks that come with the start of every new project. I still think it will always be good to know how to write from scratch, but it definitely does, at the least, work as an extra set of eyes and can add an extra angle to one's perspective. I just tried an AI art generator for the first time the other day, and I was blown away with the creativity, detail, and understanding of the workings of the real/practical world, but maybe that's just through association, rather than actual full understanding of what it is designing.

@@yourwallet4219 " I still think it will always be good to know how to write from scratch" --> What a shocking, self-damning statement. If this is the general/mass 'level' of programming today, Hell mend us.

@@ChrisM541 Not every statement has to be profound. Go kick rocks.

Obviously it doesn't understand anything...it's a computer. Programmed to do something.

Much appreciated! :-)

You DO know it's banned in stackoverflow etc !! - do you know why?!!

" 'how chat GPT will replace programmers'. Clearly as it stands now it will not. " And it never will. The simple truth is that AI can't come up with new solutions, it can literally only look at what it has seen before and find the "best match" to the input, *IF* it understand what the input means. And understanding what the input means is where most of the programmer's problems are even if you are human and are a million times better at undertstanding text than any AI will ever be. If you can use google, and any modern IDE, then ChatGPT really is just a code generator that makes stuff you can't use without fixing it first. It's nice that ChatGPT can write some code for you, but it's useless if you don't understand what the code does. It's like getting an external programmer to write some code without giving you documentation. But you can make it do the boring stuff? Yes, and if you have any modern IDE there are shortcurts that do all that for you, but then while keeping your currentcode in mind (something AI can't do) TL;DR: just learn how to use the tools that you have, it's faster, gives you better code and makes your life a lot easier.

Even if it was perfect, you'd still have to exactly specify what you want and verify it works. In that case it would simply be a higher level language, still needing programmers.

@@Rakkoonn Exactly