#11: Tektronix Oscilloscope Triggering controls and their usage

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w2aew

w2aew

Күн бұрын

This video describes the Triggering controls on a typical Tektronix analog oscilloscope. Other analog scopes will typically be similar. The video presents the Trigger Level, Slope, Source, Coupling, Mode and Holdoff controls, and how each of them are used and their affect on the triggering capability of the scope.

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@brencostigan
@brencostigan 3 жыл бұрын
If there were Golden Globe awards for KZfaq content then this video would be my nomination. This channel is a treasure chest of concise and pertinent information delivered in the most professional and informative way possible. Many thanks to Mr Alan Wolke from the U.K.
@paolo69
@paolo69 9 ай бұрын
Just got an analog scope as a gift from my school since they were throwing It away really helpful video
@paolo69
@paolo69 9 ай бұрын
Guys i also got a 60 v 5 a Linear Power supply and a soldering station as well as dozens of microcontrollors all of that for free God in so lucky
@usbcd360
@usbcd360 5 жыл бұрын
This is one of the most concise and accurate explanations I've seen of these triggering features. I'm sending this to people who didn't have such good teachers.
@Shaybay922
@Shaybay922 8 жыл бұрын
5 year engineering degree, and I am just learning how oscilloscopes work now.... THANK YOU
@tcroyce8128
@tcroyce8128 7 жыл бұрын
same with me mate.
@ZnSstr
@ZnSstr 6 жыл бұрын
Same we had them just to look at them, I used one like 2 times in 3 years. And what should I know about them in an interview LOL
@tinkeringwithelectronics
@tinkeringwithelectronics 3 жыл бұрын
I've had my 2246 for a while now and just twisted knobs and pushed buttons until the scope gave me a stable signal. Now I can twist knobs and push buttons with more confidence. Thanks so much for the time you put in these videos.
@dave-d
@dave-d 7 жыл бұрын
Been using 'scopes for years and always wondered what the trigger AC/DC coupling was about. Thank you so much. I missed a few lectures back there somewhere in the mists of time. Really appreciate this channel.
@sanjursan
@sanjursan 9 жыл бұрын
Man, that is one CLEAN old Tek!
@TheRadioShop
@TheRadioShop 6 жыл бұрын
Now that I have a working 465 scope I had to watch this video again. Very helpful at learning those trigger controls.
@RickeySmithEric
@RickeySmithEric 6 жыл бұрын
I just found this tutorial and I had just recently purchased an Oscope on eBay. The scope has these controls which I did not know how to use until now. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
@AntiqueRadioandTV
@AntiqueRadioandTV 10 жыл бұрын
Again, another exemplary refresher. Thanks! Tom
@82abn34
@82abn34 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this. I was playing with these controls the other day. Looking at the decay of a hand clap through a condenser mic. It's amazing how slow the time domain had to be set to see the whole thing. I'm learning much from you!
@orwad7916
@orwad7916 7 жыл бұрын
Absolutely great video. Never understood triggering so clearly.
@JohnRaschedian
@JohnRaschedian 4 жыл бұрын
I never understood what the "hold" function did on my Philips scope. Perfect way to explain it. Thank you!
@CharlieTechie
@CharlieTechie 8 жыл бұрын
Well done video, and gained some new knowledge about triggering. Thanks.
@markiemalarkie
@markiemalarkie 12 жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial on the triggering functions. I'm going to go watch the rest of your scope videos now, as I'm reaquainting myself with a scope after being away from EE too long. I picked up an '87 2225 off eBay and I'm hooked!
@mbrzeg16
@mbrzeg16 7 жыл бұрын
Same here done all the labs during Electrical & Electronic Eng degree course and forgot how triggering works! Thanks for this great explanation
@orion2020
@orion2020 12 жыл бұрын
WOW thanks alot i been searching all over the internet for this!!!!. got my first oscilloscope an old trio kenwood 15mhz!!!, was fiddling around without knowing much.., after watching this it all makes sense thank you!!!!!!!!!
@MrBorismans
@MrBorismans 13 жыл бұрын
Best advanced tutorial! Awesome!
@bradshaw106
@bradshaw106 12 жыл бұрын
Great video! I had a tektronix 2246a giving to me by my uncle and I'm trying to figure this thing out... Your video helped a lot! Thanks
@jeremyli2871
@jeremyli2871 6 жыл бұрын
Well done. Good presentation. Thanks for sharing.
@SDsailor7
@SDsailor7 4 жыл бұрын
This video gave me a good idea on how the triger controls work on my tek 2245 Thank you
@sheaton319
@sheaton319 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all your scope vids.
@marmadukespratt
@marmadukespratt 10 жыл бұрын
As a complete 'scope newbie, this was absolutely invaluable. Thanks very much indeed.
@jeremyhanley1363
@jeremyhanley1363 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks you have the best vidoe out there. great job.
@scytales2548
@scytales2548 Жыл бұрын
Very informative tutorial. Thanks !
@poppledirac
@poppledirac 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this! I recently saved a really sweet Tek 7904 from someone's basement and am trying to learn how to use it properly, and (coming from no EE background whatsoever) this is super helpful and explains a lot for me.
@Ozonised
@Ozonised 2 жыл бұрын
Wow that sounds so cool :-) Well it's been 6 years already, I hope you did manage to save it. Hope you are doing great :)
@riccardoiii9882
@riccardoiii9882 4 жыл бұрын
Very very interesting video, really useful
@321reh
@321reh 10 жыл бұрын
Electrical Engineers Make The BEST TEACHERS when it comes to Learning Electronics!!! I Should Know,,All I had Was Electrical Engineers Teach Me Electronics at College, They have an uncanny ability to teach at all Levels!! Thank You Alan for teaching at such a easy to understand level!!!
@jllarivee60
@jllarivee60 12 жыл бұрын
This is very helpfull. You sound very intelligent and made alot of sense. Thank you very much.
@321reh
@321reh 10 жыл бұрын
Another Great Video,,,,Thanks Alan!!!!
@ki4dbk
@ki4dbk 12 жыл бұрын
Yes. This (among others you have) was the best scope tutorial I have ever seen as well. I would love a copy of the "Scopes for Dopes" video. I have thought I knew how to use a scope for about 12 years, but of course there is a veritable inifinity of measurements that can be made, that I have yet to learn how to make. Best 73.
@1959Berre
@1959Berre 6 жыл бұрын
I just picked up a 466, my first analogue 'storage' Tek. This video is really helpful, my other scope is a basic model that does not have all these features.
@celtichongy
@celtichongy 11 жыл бұрын
excellent material, thank you for that.
@Commanderfirstclass
@Commanderfirstclass 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video, really useful!
@michaelmiller237
@michaelmiller237 9 жыл бұрын
i really appreciate you going into the details about the different types of triggering. I was having a really hard time figuring out why I couldn't get 1 Hz waves to show up on my scope. I really appreciate you spelling out the 'low frequency' cutoff for the AC triggering. (Tektronix 2225)
@w2aew
@w2aew 9 жыл бұрын
Glad to help!
@russwentz3957
@russwentz3957 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your experience with a CRT scope. While I do have and use digital scopes, it's important to me to still practice the foundational understanding of measurements. Your video helped me to better understand the various control aspects that I was not clear on, as well as (couple) the functions of the digital models.
@w2aew
@w2aew 2 жыл бұрын
As you've discovered, I have a lot of videos on analog/CRT based scopes as well as digital scopes. I hope you find them helpful.
@Taran72
@Taran72 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video! Thank you so much! I'm happy I can apply this to my digital scope: I got the same controls :)
@mikemiller4838
@mikemiller4838 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Thanks again
@tmc200527
@tmc200527 10 жыл бұрын
Good review of the basic controls.
@TheRangerDale
@TheRangerDale 8 жыл бұрын
Great Alan, Another well explain scope controls, Even I may know what they are it was good to hear them again and pickup refresh The old memory lol.Your very easy to understand and very explainable to what you mean , and of course showing is even Better Trig Hold Learn . Good Job Alan Tks 73's dale
@cbradiomizfit7562
@cbradiomizfit7562 3 жыл бұрын
Great video sir
@hyperboogie
@hyperboogie 11 жыл бұрын
Excellent video and very helpful Thanks.
@naderhumood1199
@naderhumood1199 6 ай бұрын
Great video Thank you very much
@sky44david
@sky44david 12 жыл бұрын
Very clear and helpful, just got a rehabbed and calibrated 2465 in the shop.
@Antno
@Antno 4 жыл бұрын
Love it just got a similar scope today it is a tektronix 465m ocillscope so far I like it
@mfbfreak
@mfbfreak 6 жыл бұрын
This, and the part about delayed timebase, taught me so much about using my ancient 454a, without having to work through the several hundred pages of instruction manual :)
@thirdarc
@thirdarc 12 жыл бұрын
damn, I wish the scope I use at work was that clean!!! Great vid man, vary well explained.
@PICing4fun
@PICing4fun 11 жыл бұрын
Well explained, thanks!
@Kilgore40
@Kilgore40 6 жыл бұрын
That was really helpful. Thanks.
@w2aew
@w2aew 6 жыл бұрын
Glad to help
@yoramstein
@yoramstein 9 жыл бұрын
Another great compact pracktical video for the young(old) players.
@Atacama777
@Atacama777 9 жыл бұрын
Definitely thumbs up, thanks!
@vegadva5744
@vegadva5744 10 жыл бұрын
Very Clear. Thank you
@aliagree8448
@aliagree8448 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting and applicable
@alexabadi7458
@alexabadi7458 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much !
@arunvarghese9015
@arunvarghese9015 12 жыл бұрын
Good tutorial!
@nlimchua
@nlimchua 12 жыл бұрын
@w2aew oh yes! I've always been curious about practical real-world applications of the x-y function on the timebase knob. I saw some in your other videos - but more demos please. Also, the rear of my 2465A have ch2 sig out, A gate out, step/auto ext switch, B gate out and ext. Z axis IN. These are a mystery to me. Would love vids about these! thx.
@Vickysuper55
@Vickysuper55 11 жыл бұрын
Thankx mahn!! really helpfull....
@Musecrafter
@Musecrafter 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@thewii552
@thewii552 13 жыл бұрын
@w2aew ohhhhhhhh. Thanks! (I screwed around with knobs and stuff and fiked my trace). Also, knowing what BW limit does will come in really handy, I've needed that feature before and didn't know I had it.
@avatarcollides2day
@avatarcollides2day 12 жыл бұрын
Nice. Im in my first year of EE and my first lab is on the oscilloscopeBK Precision 2121
@nlimchua
@nlimchua 12 жыл бұрын
@w2aew Watched the Basics video. Pleased to finally meet you, Mr. Wolke!
@mykedindeal
@mykedindeal 12 жыл бұрын
Best tutorial ever. If you ever make a Osciloscopes for Dummys DVD consider me a buyer
@jjock3239
@jjock3239 5 жыл бұрын
I love your videos and review them regularly. I was wondering if you have, or have ever used the Heathkit curve tracer. I would really like to see a video of that. Bob
@w2aew
@w2aew 5 жыл бұрын
I don't have access to one. If I did, I'd like to compare it to my trusty Tek 576.
@thewii552
@thewii552 13 жыл бұрын
On the tektronix 465, is it normal for the trace to be pretty thick? (like about 3mm). Also, what does the astigmatism knob do?
@J4e8a16n
@J4e8a16n 11 жыл бұрын
The time center button is closed and the T = 2 us. The trigger is set at automatic. I setted the coupling to ch1 instead of normal and I got a steady trigger. Thanks for your answer.
@thewii552
@thewii552 13 жыл бұрын
@w2aew sorry, (I'm a n00b) but what does the BW limit do? (I have been wondering that for a while now
@jpommer2
@jpommer2 12 жыл бұрын
Nicely done! 73...
@AB-yu2tj
@AB-yu2tj 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you thank you thank you
@electronicatutorial
@electronicatutorial 11 жыл бұрын
High end digital scopes have special triggering functions like to trigger on specific events like glitches, especific widths periods, intervals,logic patterns, etc, besides Yokogawas do you know of any other analog scope that can do that?
@andrewferg8737
@andrewferg8737 3 жыл бұрын
Seems my old Tektronix 468 may have finally reached its end of days. I've had some minor issues with the buttons and knobs for the past year or so, but nothing insurmountable. Yesterday however, the old workhorse refused to boot-up. The fan came on, and the "beam find" dot indicates the CRT screen is working... but otherwise it appears dead. Any suggestions for a quick fix before I inter this fine machine in the oscilloscope grave yard? Could it just be a blown fuse or something? I apologize for my ignorance. I'm not really knowledgeable enough to attempt a proper diagnoses. Kinda feel like five-year old kid with a flat tire.
@w2aew
@w2aew 3 жыл бұрын
Common issues would be power supply problems - all fixable. The guys over at VintageTek have been doing a lot of 468 restorations lately - check the videos on their youtube channel.
@waynegram8907
@waynegram8907 2 жыл бұрын
When using the Oscope ch#1 to measure waveforms on the circuit under test, mostly the probe will use the frequency of the waveform as the trigger? What other frequencies or pulse waveforms can you use as a trigger for circuits under test? For digital circuits in order for the oscilloscope to be in sync you have to use the clock frequency as the trigger. I'm not sure what other types of circuits under test would use different frequencies/waveforms or pulse waveforms in order for the oscilloscope to display stable waveforms. Can you think of what type of applications of circuits that use different triggering frequencies that the oscilloscope don't sync up unless you use the external trigger.
@michael.mcshan
@michael.mcshan 11 жыл бұрын
Excellent video - I always learn something new about using my scope. 73 de Mike N5JKY
@edwardhughes352
@edwardhughes352 5 жыл бұрын
very good just bought a used 466 textronix
@barn5923
@barn5923 11 жыл бұрын
THANKS VERY MUCH
@rpbale
@rpbale 7 жыл бұрын
This was super helpful. My Tek 5440 has lost its trigger function on the 5B42 timebase and diagnosing it seems impossible without at least understanding how and why each of the trigger controls work. Now if you could just guide me the my diagnosis too!
@styno2010
@styno2010 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@SDsailor7
@SDsailor7 8 жыл бұрын
I don't know the first thing about O'copes but I found your video very interesting and informative. I want to learn how to operate one. Does it take a long time to learn how to use one? There is one for sale just like the one on your video and I am interested in buying it. And hopefully I can learn how to use it so I can find out the problems on my stereo and reel to reels, one has the right channel that is out and the other does not record.Cheers/Rob
@Gringo_In_Chile
@Gringo_In_Chile 10 жыл бұрын
Thinking about picking up a isolation transformer after seeing Dave Jones pointing out potential pitfalls of not using one. What do you think? In a previous comment your response gave me the impression that you rarely use one. I understand what a iso transformer does and how it works, I am just curious if you think its worth getting one to protect both yourself and your scope? Thanks, Ken
@avatarcollides2day
@avatarcollides2day 12 жыл бұрын
@w2aew Thanks. By the way, what are your thoughts on the job market for EEs now and the income they make ? I had a dilemma to study to be either EE or a ChemEng. But i chose this because of the wide span of options it has to offer.
@vtradio
@vtradio 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, nice video. I have a Tek 453 here that I am trying to learn how to use. Checking alignment on a signal generator soon. 73 Paul AA1SU
@FineDayWasted
@FineDayWasted 12 жыл бұрын
thank you
@nivu007
@nivu007 11 жыл бұрын
Do u have any videos on using single sweep and average mode simultaneously?
@Gringo_In_Chile
@Gringo_In_Chile 10 жыл бұрын
So if I understand correctly, what your saying is if both the scope and DUT (both grounded with a 3 prong plug) are plugged into the same grounded power strip for example, an isolation transformer is not needed because both are connected to a common ground?
@ShirtOffLJay
@ShirtOffLJay 12 жыл бұрын
thanks a lot
@kassima9892
@kassima9892 7 жыл бұрын
Dear Sir, I have an analog Tektronix scope 465 facing problem. I want sent you the screenshot of the scope to guess the problem from which section. Is there any possibility to send you the picture of the screen? Or any other option. Thanks in advance
@AlexandreJasmin
@AlexandreJasmin 11 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid. Though, I'm confused as to why I'd use NORM triggering when displaying both channels in CHOP or ALT mode. Just picking whichever channel is being displayed at that time seems like it would just make the triggering random.
@BBMiscerSON1990
@BBMiscerSON1990 11 жыл бұрын
i have mine looking at 12.6V from a step down transformer hooked up to 120V (wall outlet) but its not a perfect sine wave. when i switch to measure the signal coming from the wall, its not a perfect sine wave either, what could be wrong?
@J4e8a16n
@J4e8a16n 11 жыл бұрын
Does the Owon SDS7102 or another new oscilloscope facilitate the triggering process?
@littlepandatravel8915
@littlepandatravel8915 9 жыл бұрын
This machine is ready for museum
@alanspicertelecom
@alanspicertelecom 9 жыл бұрын
F M&M Humans are older that this scope and a lot of us are out here still running around - not in a museum. Um these scopes are very damn well quite still useful. It won't help you use your smart phone though. Smarty pants.
@littlepandatravel8915
@littlepandatravel8915 9 жыл бұрын
Yeah sir I agree, but why don't we pick up the customs from stone age then start riding horses
@alanspicertelecom
@alanspicertelecom 9 жыл бұрын
Riding horses is fun ... you don't like riding horses? Anyway a lot of people use these older scopes just fine. Yah if need a newer digital then buy one.
@krisjk999
@krisjk999 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I have a question on the grounding schemes in scopes. In case of an Analog scope is the scope ground connected to the safety ground? So if we try to measure an isolated load (without safety ground connection), is the load being grounded via the scope? I have many follow up questions related to the isolated scope and isolated probes etc. Would be great to see a video on this topic if you dont mind. I came across a webinar from Teledyne lecroy "Probing in Power Electronics What to Use and Why". They mentioned it is not safe to use passive probes in many applications.
@w2aew
@w2aew 3 жыл бұрын
The short answer to your two questions are yes and yes. The vast majority of scopes have the input/probe ground tues to the chassis/safety ground. So, you do have to aware of this if you are working on something that must remain floating (such as a hot chassis).
@davesdigitaldomain
@davesdigitaldomain 2 жыл бұрын
enjoyed the video. I have the Tektronix 465B and I am in the process of calibrating it. The manual specifies the use of a time mark generator specifically the Tektronix 184. These are almost impossible to get hold of here in the UK, do you know a modern equivalent that I could use?any help from anybody would be greatly appreciated.
@w2aew
@w2aew 2 жыл бұрын
Any pulse or square wave generator (function gen or AFG) that is capable of producing sufficient output frequency and has a frequency accuracy better than the timebase accuracy on the 465B would be fine. I used an AFG3252 function generator.
@ja9060
@ja9060 2 жыл бұрын
I just came across your video series and I love them. I do have a question and it has to do with, in some videos where you are scoping small signals there’s an complete absence of high freq fuzz and genuine high freq interference, spikes, bursts and misc spuria flying through your scope’s display (i.e. cellphone, Wi-Fi - yours or a neighbor’s, cordless phone, active Bluetooth, etc.). When I’m scoping low-level signals on a device or proto board at home I have to contend with what’s “real” and what’s in the air. How do you avoid this airborne trash in your tutorial setups? I have a ~$300 dual-trace + storage Hantek scope and I see all kinds of annoying RFI/EMI stuff. Is it a matter of spending the bucks for something that’s much better as in quiet?
@w2aew
@w2aew 2 жыл бұрын
There are a few things... In many cases, when probing low level signals, I will use the front-end BW limiting feature of the scope whenever the signal's frequency content is low enough. This keeps the higher frequency RF signals from getting in. Also, make sure the probe's ground leads are as short as possible. On digital scopes, I will sometimes use averaging if the signal is repetitive, that reduces random and uncorrelated noise sources too.
@supertruckertom
@supertruckertom 13 жыл бұрын
@w2aew It has one 6121 that came with it and was looking for another. Maybe I can find one NOS but will probably get a new model passive probe from Tek. The Digital Storage portion is fun to usel. I just wish I could find the option 10 GPIB or even option 12 RS-232 serial interface. Tek had an old DOS serial comm program to pull data off of it in the support section. I'll probably be wishing for a long time on those options though. I joined a Tek users group too. Thanks.
@W1RMD
@W1RMD 3 жыл бұрын
Right now I have a Leader LBO-523 scope. Not a bad scope for one that I picked up a state surplus store 20+ years ago for $35. I would love to be a scope pilot behind a Tektronix 465. Is this, or what is your favorite scope for all practical purposes? Thanks for the great video!
@w2aew
@w2aew 3 жыл бұрын
It's tough to pick a favorite. The 465 is a workhorse. The 485 has a smaller CRT, but is razor sharp. The 2467 is super overall, but it a bit larger. I go to the 2467 most often (same as 2465 but with a special fast-writing CRT).
@dennisqwertyuiop
@dennisqwertyuiop 11 жыл бұрын
whats you sugestion TEKTRONIX 2440 2 channel 500 MS/s digital oscilloscope good bad? looking to buy thanks
@nlimchua
@nlimchua 12 жыл бұрын
@nlimchua I would appreciate a video to show practical applications for the following controls: Add, Invert, GPIB(gen.purpose interface bus) and the purpose of a button on my 2465A that says, "INIT@50%". thx!
@nlimchua
@nlimchua 12 жыл бұрын
I've always been curious about many of the controls that come with Tek scopes and the manuals just don't explain them as clearly as you do. Your digital SA video is good too but I'm suffering from info overload! Wish they weren't too expensive so I could have hands-on like you do. B^)
@AB-yu2tj
@AB-yu2tj 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. I wanted to ask your opinion about two scopes. I'll ask the shorter version of the question first. TDS3054 & TDS3034 which one is good enough for a repair shop? Long version: I found a TDS3034B for a very good price. It comes with four probes manuals. But I been looking for a TDS3054B Cuz I was told by others tds3054B is the scope I should get. But I don't have the knowledge yet to know if I need the capabilities or the extra bandwidth of a TDS3054 in the future repairs. Learning how to use scopes is an ongoing project right now. At the moment I have a 100MHz scope w/ 2 probes & component tester. I am trying to get a repair lab going in the shop to complement the field service work that I do full time. The boards I will work on are out of medical and dental equipment or really any boards... CNC machine pcbs,, sterilizers, x-ray boards, chair or table controllers....motor controls, some industrial PC boards..... I can get a tds3034B for 1/2 of what the TDS3054B are going now. Which scope do you think is best for the repair work without over doing it.
@w2aew
@w2aew 2 жыл бұрын
I think you'll be fine with the TDS3034B - the extra bandwidth on the 3054 isn't really going to buy you much for the work that you're doing.
@FullElectronic
@FullElectronic 10 жыл бұрын
Hi,just a small question: Can i use 475 200mhz crt in a tek 475A 250mhz? Or change the vertical atenuator array in the same order? Or all that in the inverted order? Thank you.
@w2aew
@w2aew 10 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I don't know enough about the specific changes between the 475 and 475A to answer this for you. This is a good set of questions for the experts on the TekScopes group on Yahoo! (groups.yahoo.com)
@FullElectronic
@FullElectronic 10 жыл бұрын
the difference between these scopes are basicly 50 mhz, I think the rest are equal. Ok thank you.
@dariodraiman6339
@dariodraiman6339 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Great job! I have a digital Tek TDS1002B since 2008 and I'm happy with it. Recently I run into the opportunity of buying one of this used Tek 465 (not the B version) for $150. Is it worth buying and having it nowadays?
@w2aew
@w2aew 3 жыл бұрын
the 465 is a nice analog scope, but $150 seems a bit high for it, especially since it isn't the B model.
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