It really is and it really does.

I love the older trial dramas with this kind of dialogue. Inherit The Wind is another one I'd call a masterpiece, along with To Kill a Mockingbird.

I wouldn't go that far

@@jasonvoorhees310You can be wrong. It's your right!

@@sydhamelin1265 its better than to kill a mockingbird.

That and the room was made smaller as the movie progresses. Not noticeably but enough to get the feeling of tension.

Thankyou for the info I didn't know that

we need brandon to watch DOG DAY AFTERNOON !! another sidney lumet classic and it’s a great movie all around he would love it

@@andrewstephens5885 hey I admit I have only watched a quarter of his films but the one I highly rate is a film called the hill. A war movie unlike any other. Must watch

@@andrewstephens5885 And Failsafe

Yeah, I think it actually adds to the play/movie that the names as well as the actual guilt of the boy don't matter and stay unresolved (except the two jurors in the end)

@@JonathanMandrake because they could be anybody not just particularly the men that are in the room right now

Very well articulated, this movie is old, but it never "gets old".

Adding a 13th person didn't hurt either.

Truly gripping because of the plot, acting and direction. All around fantastic movie

Movies based on plays tend to rely on script and performances, no fluff at all. "Glengarry Glen Rose" is another example.

@@pablom-f8762 it was originally written as a television show in 1954 then adapted to the stage in 1955. It was released as a feature film in 1957.

Whether he's guilty or not isn't the point of the movie. Then again, a modern version would probably make the mistake of tacking a reveal of that onto it.

@@Wiley_Coyote that’s what I’m saying. I’m glad there’s nothing that definitely says “he really was innocent the whole time” also, in the play/book we don’t ever even see the kid. Everything starts and ends in the jury room.

@@Wiley_Coyote A 'modern' version was remade in 1997. I don't believe it had that reveal either... and it was a damn fine version as well.

@WikeyCoyote69 Thank you for saying that whether he did it or not was not the point of the movie. I've seen people posting videos and comments trying to dissect and argue why the 12 jurors were wrong and why the boy did kill his father and I'm like, "Clearly, they missed the point of the movie"....SMH!!!

I wonder if Brandon will cover Rashomon (1950).

I always thought it was so funny how obvious it was just by listening to him talk.

And he was still doing Piglet until his passing in the 2000s

He was also on The Bob Newhart Show in the 70's. Great actor.

He went to my high school!

Juror 5 was Jack Klugman, AKA Oscar Madison from the Odd Couple TV series, and made several appearances on The Twilight Zone. Lee J Cobb was Juror 3, and among many other famous appearances, was Detective Kinderman from The Exorcist. And of course, Henry Fonda was Juror 8 (Mr. Davis). He's Henry Fonda. XD

I get misty myself 😢

Same here

I've since watched many of those actors in many movies.

I watched it in school as well.

I watched this in school too! I had a 10th grade Government class that we watched this and then went over a bunch of related things. Great class.

I'd seen it long before my English lit class, and was probably one of the few that was excited to see it again instead of doing the usual work.

I *knew* there was a reason I loved him and his voice so much! Piglet's a favorite character of mine.

​@@AJPwny I can't believe I couldn't recognize the voice I feel like an idiot. Man I wish I could meet John Fielder and thank him for the memories.

@@brilicusgaming6922 Oh, me too. He was a _huge_ part of my childhood, I would have loved to meet him.

He also played on Star Trek episode Wolf in the Fold. 1:55

By far

So accurate

Agreed. So many others are annoying or say empty comments.

Definitely one of the most prolific. "Best" is subjective though I enjoy his reviews.

Facts

12 Angry Men is one of my favorite films as well. I remember I watched it for the first time in Civics class when I was in 7th grade. My teacher told us that we were gonna be watching a movie called 12 Angry Men and she said that it was an older movie but it’s really good. I remember thinking that it sounded dumb and that it was gonna be boring, but boy was I wrong. The movie had me interested from beginning to end, and I learned my lesson to not be so closed minded and to not judge a book by it’s cover. 12 Angry Men is a masterpiece.

True… But other movies are masterpieces precisely because of those things as well (like LotR). It’s like comparing a freshly baked baguette to a bowl of curry: one is simple, one is complex, both are delicious.

@@jordinagel1184 True. That's why the Lord of the Rings series is my most favorite fantasy series of all time and RotK is in my Top 10 as well. I just really love 12 Angry Men BECAUSE of the fact they use little, yet they use it wonderfully!

@@IsaacLikesGames same here, excerpt it was my 9th grade social studies

What you do need is a great script, a great director, and twelve great actors.

He had just won an Oscar 6 years earlier for supporting actor in On The Waterfront……he’s great in the exorcist too

Huh! Until I read this comment, I never made the connection that he's the detective in The Exorcist. Now it seems obvious. Great actor.

@@kdizzle901 He was only nominated for an Oscar, actually twice. Never won though.

That's awesome. I think everyone should see this movie. A great lesson also.

Same with my english teacher. Wonder if we where in the same class? Haha

@@zackbellegarde6923 I don’t recognize your name but what was your teachers name?

​@@justarandompeep8945 My English teacher showed this to my class during 9th Grade, I don't think we had the same teacher but her name is Mrs. Iachini.

I'm shocked he didn't even recognize his name.

@@circa81 maybe because Brandon doesn’t know many classic actors from Henry Fonda era

@@musicalgenius02 I get that he wouldn't know his face or his filmography, I don't really, but just the name Henry Fonda, I mean he's up their with Marlon Brando in terms of all time famous movie stars.

@@circa81 He didn´t recognize Brando either in The Godfather, had heard of him beforehand, but not seen him. Henry Fonda is almost a generation before that. For Brandon´s generation, he and his contemporaries are far from being household names...

@@circa81 you mean Marlon my brotha and yeah your right on that

Me too! I made a point of showing the film to my teenage sons

There's a pretty solid remake with Jack Lemmon that came out in the late 90's that was good too.

@@michaelgamble2848 yes I've seen that & he done a good job as the one man against the 11. The film was much longer than the original. Some scenes were extended discussing the case in more detail as well as all new scenes adding more depth in the case that did not arise in the original.

Good stories don’t age, hence the Classics.

Lee J. Cobb has a great acting here. He also play a older state owner cowboy in a film with Burt Lancaster (also a old law man), great scenes by both of them. Martin Balsam, besides Psycho, enters in a film with Sidney Poitier and Richard Widmark (The Bedford Incident), also good. Henry Fonda, beside several also have one great film, Hitchcock one, that I think is based in a real life case, of a person that is similar and also write in the same way of a wanted criminal. Quite good film also.

In addition you had Jack Warden, EJ Marshall and Jack Klugman three great actors. The rest were character actors who had worked in film and television from the 30's. If you watch old movies and TV you will see them often. I grew up watching them

Another great yet often unsung film of Lumet's is 2007's "Before the Devil Knows You're Dead," his final film and arguably one of his best. Pretty impressive that a director with such a long career spanning so many different eras of cinema managed to evolve with the times and consistently put out top quality work for the entirety of his working life.

How can a movie that takes place entirely in one room keep me riveted for 90 minutes. It shows you that people don't need action and CGI, they want characters and dialogue.

@@gunman462 Watch "The Sunset Limited" and "The Man From Earth." Both are in one room.

Brilliant said. Yes the film is in my top 5 & have seen it many times. Did you ever see the remake?:like to know what you thought.

@@garyclarke9685 saw bits of it, but not the entire thing. From what I saw though, it was still very well acted, the script is practically word for word the same though and even though I love the original script I felt like the remake didn't do enough changes to modernize the story in a way that made it stand out if that makes sense?

JonGon Productions - I agree absolutely. It is my favourite film as well and for the same reasons you described. And unfortunately with the advent of cgi we are unlikely to see its like again. It is like they have just decided that plot, dialogue and characterisation aren't necessary anymore ... just throw lots of effects around and you have a film, and most of them are complete dross. I'm just hoping that cgi becomes a toy they get bored of and they eventually remember how to make real films again.

You could almost feel it drying the sweat on their shirts. I love old films

@@selinakyle3194 Me to. Before my wife passed away she would walk through the room and with a beautiful smile and she would say " I see your watching another new release " It's was a running joke we had. I miss this.

@@tbrackett9344 Sorry for your loss.

they literally showed a five minute clip of the knife scene in school and that is literally it, not like anyone my age appreciates movies like these anyways...

It's an ideal we should strive for and identify with America, even if it isn't presently reality.

Except now, EVERYONE is "bigoted" unless they support Leftism and anti-White, anti-West narratives.

my guy. Americans will always be a beacon of light no matter what. Don't let outside influences shake your sense of America. Ppl are trying to destory it by dividing us. I have never before ever seen something like this. The principalities are way active to destroy us

@@dontgiveinfo Dear friend, first off, I would like to truly thank you, for your kindness, and the positivity of your comments. There seems to be a need for certain people these days to point out their superiority through arrogance, and snide remarks that have become so common place these days. There exist a certain type of person, in our country, but also worldwide that seems to lust over things that make of different, then use things like unity, reason, and friendship, to learn about and understand each other. Your simple comments make me want to be better, so with that, I hope this finds you well, and that your future days are filled with peace and happiness. Your friend Pete.

@@petercastaneda5338 Agree

Henry Fonda was a leading man, not a character actor.

I mean, piglet was in this movie. How could someone not like piglet.

Ed Begly, Jr, (son of Ed Begly, Sr. who is in this movie), is also an actor, best known for the series St. Elsewhere.

@@Myrdden71 and Better Call Saul too

I just have to add E.G. Marshall to your list of names, because I thought his performance as juror #4 was fantastic in this film -- one of my very favorite portrayals.

Excellent choice, loved the movie as well as the novel

@@tessesmom I liked the novel much more but the film is really good too.

I've been suggesting To Kill A Mockingbird to many reactors. So far nobody has watched it. Brandon could set the trend ;-)

I'm going to second the call to react to this wonderful film. One of the truly great court scenes of all time.

You know how people say things about great casting, like, "no one but Robert Downey Jr. could be Tony Stark, RDJ = Stark," right? I feel that way about Gregory Peck as Atticus Finch. I can't imagine anyone doing better in that role. Absolute icon.

What is a Rolodex. Haha. JK

The Twilight Zone is a good start. lol

@@StCerberusEngel Klugman alone was a fourpeater. Best. Leo.

@@MessOfThings A portable cost-effective database for finite number of records using a paper-based firmware storage system. Best. Leo.

@@michaelbastraw1493 That’s the most complicated explanation of a Rolodex I’ve ever seen in my life. 😆

and important to note that the jurors elect the foreman amongst themselves

@@rumble7382 Did not know that.

Network has some of the best acting. I’d second that recommendation!

Peter Finch, amazing actor. His performance is fantastic. I’M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I AM NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE !!!!!!!!!! Amazing!

Of course they got it "right". And by "right" I mean they didn't convict even though they had reasonable doubt.

@@josephmorneau4339 Not what I meant, but I get your point. Henry Fonda bringing the alternate knife and using it to debunk the 'unique knife' theory would cause a mistrial though haha. It really would.

@@josephmorneau4339 Yes, a lot of people might not understand that reasonable doubt doesn't mean innocent. But that there were problems, holes, questions; with one of them being about the guy's defense, to which he was entitled and didn't get.

Not guilty doesn’t mean innocent.

@@sydhamelin1265 Yes, that knife move is actually problematic in terms of being on jury duty.

there is a lot of show in this, but it is all people's faces and body language as well as voice tone.

@@jeffreysmith236 One can put on a blindfold and still follow most of the details. But a ton of info would be missed while watching on mute. Especially since the story largely concerns testimonies. Other films such as The Breakfast Club are the same way. Try imagining both as either radio dramas or silent movies.

@@jp3813 I dunno; seems kinda 50/50 either way. With a blindfold, you'd miss a lot of the interactions that explain the changing relationships between the characters, as well as most of the mood of the movie. I think the point of "show, don't tell" is less a strict dichotomy and more an instruction to fully use the visual nature of the medium and to trust your audience, as there's an inherent tendency in humans to fall into the "and then" style of storytelling that we observe in young kids. A movie should ideally be conveying information in many separate ways at any given moment, using the full "bandwidth" available (eg. lighting, colour palette camera movement, score, etc). You're right, though, that the saying on its own is not overly clear on that point.

@@michaelccozens I'd agree that certain visual moments would be missed, but it's 20/80 at most by my estimate. One would have a way better chance of understanding the case w/ a blindfold as opposed to muting the film. Hence, an adaptation into a radio drama would be a much better fit than into a silent movie. Can you imagine Mad Max: Fury Road as a radio drama? I can easily imagine it as a silent movie. Cinema does allow many different ways to tell a story, but the percentage of each way is up to the filmmaker and that choice is completely valid.

@@jp3813 Fair points, but I'd argue that it's possible that viewing 12AM as a silent film would give a better understanding of the changing relationships between characters, which is arguably more central to the film than the case itself (worth remembering, too, that silent movies usually had text-cards for speech). It's true some narratives lend themselves better to visuals or audio than others. I'd never deny that a good movie can still be made while violating the "show, don't tell" instruction, but I think the point still stands that it would likely take a deliberate effort by a skilled filmmaker to do so, because the tendency of novice visual storytellers to fall back on sub-optimal direct audience instruction would still threaten the quality of a non-"show, don't tell" piece. I'd also note that, if "show, don't tell" were completely invalid, you'd expect a description of a movie to be as compelling as the movie itself, which it clearly (in almost all cases) isn't. So I'm not sure I can sign-on to the "all choices are completely valid" part of your argument. I'd agree that they *can* be, but that, in the vast majority of cases, "show, don't tell" still holds. Not to preempt a response, but I wanted to say thanks for the interesting discussion! It's nice to be reminded that KZfaq comment threads don't have to devolve into personal attacks, and that reasonable people can disagree/discuss reasonably.

Yes, I came to point this out! That is why it’s one set and all that. Just love it.

Film reactions are relatively new. I think it started booming only last year (2020) and the reason for that might have something to do with copyright laws being more lenient now. Before that, there were plenty of TV reaction channels out there, but I don't think movie reactions were a thing. If there was, they were being taken down because I couldn't find them before and most of the movie reactions I see now are from 2020 to the present. So, yeah, give it a couple of years and KZfaq will be filled with reactions for many different types of movies.

There is a reactor named Mia Tiffany and she watches many old classic films. You should check it out. Great reactor.

@Darkstar I saw it with my younger brother about a year ago and my god is it so beautifully amazing

also Jesus

@Darkstar The big factor is the nature of recollection, especially over time. Not to mention, the human ability, if not propensity, to rationalize and massage memories, often unintentionally. Best. Leo.

And they're so different from each other too. To Kill a Mockingbird is more of a slice of life with a courtroom drama near the middle, Twelve Angry Men is a super tight stage play adaptation, and My Cousin Vinny is one of the funniest movies out there.

My Cousin Vinny is fantastic and really highlights what a talented actor Joe Pesci is. He’s HILARIOUS and Marisa Tomei deserved that Oscar!

I'm surprised Anatomy of a Murder isn't on the list.

Funny that the Bar Association would rank 12 Angry Men so high. It is a fantastic movie, but if a jury actually did what was done in the film, it would be declared a mistrail. Jurors are not allowed to make suppositions about witnesses (eyeglasses of the woman) or bring in their own evidence (a second knife).

@@taddy_mason4197 It was number 4. ^-^

Omg that is so good. So much acting skill and intensity. And it exudes empathy. I was heartbroken through the end. All reasons why I prefer that over Dr Strangelove. Some other Lumet films are Pawnbroker, Serpico and Dog Day Afternoon

yes, the 1964 version, not the remake

He has an incredible filmography. His final film, Before The Devil Knows You're Dead, is fantastic.

Everything Sidney Lumet for sure

@@acdragonrider Can't go wrong with Dog Day Afternoon and Serpico. Both essential viewing.

I think Hateful 8 is coming soon! And I second Rear Window,

What about that film where a sniper had that guy pinned inside a phonebox for the whole movie. That was a thrilling movie.

Plus Reservoir Dogs and Glengarry Glen Ross! I have a dreadful attention span for films and one-room, no special effects idea is the only thing that keeps me attention throughout.

Another great movie that shows that you don't even need to change the location a story is set in.

One of my favorite movies!

Hitchcock's best movie

@@Theakker3B Agreed wholeheartedly.

I second this suggestion! Rear window is high in my top ten films ever.

I recently discovered this movie ,now I wonder what other amazing films I'm missing out on

This film should be mandated viewing before you ever get called to jury duty lmao

Big thumbs up for that recommendation.

Oh, my goodness, YES!

phenomenal suggestion!

I only have one thing to say about this recommendation ... Put the coffee DOWN!

👍👍

Robert Rossen directed The Hustler. 12 Angry Men was directed by Sidney Lumet.

@@jamesoblivion shit you're right. They just sound so similar because of the same composer, but they are different directors. My bad, thanks for the correction. Still watch the movie though

@@bigtubbz100 yeah it is a great film. Also, Paul Newman is always a delight to watch.

@@Bjjbhcoa86 Yeah he is. Cool hand Luke, Butch Cassidy and Sundance kid are some of my favorites

True. I really didn’t like Virginia Woolf though. I’m not a fan of family fighting dramas to begin with and Taylor and Burton’s arguing was like nails on chalkboard for me. I just couldn’t keep going.

Both directorial debuts too, for Sidney Lumet and Mike Nichols, both legends.

I didn't care for who's afraid of virginia woolf. It was successful because it made me feel uncomfortable, which is what they were going for, but I didn't like feeling so uncomfortable.

Great catch!

I guess still too much for Brandon, I´m sorry, he is already hesitant to react to Wolf of Wall Street, because he heard about the explicit scenes in it...

It would require a lot of editing, LOL.

Once Upon A Time in The West is such an underrated film. You can see how much of Quentin Tarrantino's films were inspired by it.

@@cluster_f1575 It is still my favorite western, and the use of Henry Fonda was great. Plus it is worth it just to see the shot of the Spanish Arch with the bell in Monument Valley.

OUATITW is definitely a good idea, might be my favorite movie of all time, can never go wrong with Sergio Leone and Ennio Morricone though. Shame it's so often overshadowed by TGTBATU and the rest of the Dollars Trilogy since I think OUATITW is the superior film out of the 4 Leone Westerns (5 if you count 'Duck, You Sucker!'), all are fantastic though.

So Pulver how long have you been on board ? Fourteen months.....

@@bluebird3281 Cagney was great in that movie.

That's such a great movie, arguably Kazan's best.

Oddly enough, that's showing on TCM right now...

Amazing film especially in light of recent politics

Arguing. Phone speller?

You beat me to it!! One of the all-time great films, and Lorre’s performance is amazing.

Definitely! I was gonna recommend M too. Though maybe you shouldn’t mention plot details...

Oh, yes. Great movie and historically important to the progression of genre cinema.

Would love him to do Metropolis too. That film’s mind-blowing to consider that they accomplished it in the ‘20s.

Oh hell, I had forgotten about, Garp! It too, is a masterpiece.

@@ole9421Binky

Yes! I can't wait until someone finally reacts to Garp!

Of all the movie gin joints in all the towns in the all world you had to pick that one

@@mohamedashian604 “Your w, Sir” ( so I don’t spoil for people that haven’t watched Casablanca yet) first saw that when I was 10 years old, awesome movie!

Casablanca is a fantastic film, but I'm going to be the radical in the room and say if you want a Bogart movie, go with The Treasure of the Sierra Madre. I dare say I think it's Bogart's best film, showcasing his range as an actor.

@@StCerberusEngel And let us not forget The African Queen. It's even in color.

How about the Maltese falcon? Another bogart classic

Hitchcock’s films all deserve to be there too

@@acdragonrider Absolutely, and I believe he has already watched Vertigo on his Patreon (looking forward to seeing that when it drops here on KZfaq). It's an exhaustive list of films from the 30-60s that Brandon should check out, and Hitchcock's films are obviously a part of that. If Brandon happens to read this, I want him to know that what he is doing, dipping his toe in the classic era of films, is very unique and worthwhile because he is going to discover amazing films, but also, other popular KZfaq reviewers like Stuckmann and Johns do not review much of anything prior to the 1970s. This opens up a wider audience to Brandon--allowing him to discover amazing films but also allowing his audience to do the same!

Fine choices, I believe he has seen Psycho already tho, before he started the channel.

I’d add Casablanca and On The Waterfront to your good list for him too.

@@td811 i’ve managed to still not see casablanca or on the waterfront

@@maxis5650 oh that sucks it would’ve been cool to see his reaction especially if he was going in blind to it

Or Serpico

@@mohamedashian604 or Fail Safe

Or Network

@@acdragonrider Or Before The Devil Knows Your Dead.

@@BluRayAddict1 I second that it would be cool to compare his first film and his last 12 angry men and before the devil knows you’re dead