12 Purposes for Pain
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25 күн бұрынFather Josiah Trenham
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@BrasingtonAssociates 24 күн бұрын
For some reason the fact that father Josiah laughs at his own stories makes listening to him a joy. Anyone else?
@mik569 23 күн бұрын
Yes
@electronicsafrica 23 күн бұрын
@@mik569he is a joy to listen to
@blabbergasted4380 21 күн бұрын
Enthusiasm. Confidence in God's grace.
@basedorthobrofren3724 15 күн бұрын
He's a real human being 🤍
@mia_aa05 23 күн бұрын
12 reasons for pain under the hand of God's providence: 1. Life is a training ground 2. Trials are the path of purification 3. Sufferings glorify the righteous 4. Suffering served for the advance of the Gospel 5. Suffering magnifies the grace of God in our lives 7. Pain separates the hypocrites from the true believers 8. Pain reminds us that things can go bad so that they can go good (ex. St. Joseph) 9. Our faithful endurance of suffering shuts the mouth of the devil 10. Pain in our lives is the education of unbelievers 11. Suffering can come to us to prove our authenticity 12. The endurance of suffering is the splendor of the Church May God bless you Father Josiah.
@Guillermojorgemiller 23 күн бұрын
Thanks for typing these out, Mituta... God bless.
@marsian7028 20 күн бұрын
Thanks
@reneehouser2925 16 күн бұрын
#6? 🤷
@reneehouser2925 16 күн бұрын
#4 is for the conversion of men. Witnessing faith in persecution leads to the conversion of men
@charlotteturner1011 13 күн бұрын
Thank you for the recap!❤
@OrthodoxLoner 24 күн бұрын
Jesus didn't come to end suffering but to show us how to suffer!
@utubebob2000 23 күн бұрын
@OrthodoxLoner why?
@OrthodoxLoner 23 күн бұрын
For all the reasons from the video.
@ChristIsRisen33 21 күн бұрын
@@utubebob2000Because He needs strong soldiers, not weak ones.
@FatherGapon-gw6yo 24 күн бұрын
My dad thanked the lord for the struggle against the cancer that took him. True story. Lord be praised.
@VaninFoley 21 күн бұрын
I clicked on this immediately when I saw the title, because pain is my constant companion!
@sooperdt 24 күн бұрын
Orthodox for 3 years and a deep trial, sometimes i feel despair but i haven't given up yet, where would I go? I'm grateful to Christ the church ,my priests and deacons and my friends for keeping me going. Bishop Irenei also wrote a book on suffering called "strength in weakness" that i recommend to everyone.
@user-yv1dk2om3w 23 күн бұрын
I think I understand how you feel . I am also in a deep despair and weakness . But the thing is , I got nobody to talk to.
@sooperdt 23 күн бұрын
@@user-yv1dk2om3w that's also why I joined the Orthodox Church, to find God AND someone to talk to. It worked.
@abogdanoff9049 18 күн бұрын
@user-yv1dk2om3w I hope you find a community of people to talk to. I found a community at my local Orthodox Church, if it’s possible that’s a great place to start. Remain patient as well, these things take time.
@Segsman100 Күн бұрын
I downloaded your app the day it released. This and the Orthodox Calendar are my go to apps, every day! Thank you father for the wonderful message, Father, bless us all with your love and humility. I will bring this up on Saturday's Vespers!
@ProphetGreg94 24 күн бұрын
Even though I am not an orthodox or catholic, I just want to say that I am deeply enriched by your videos. I appreciate so much depth from your orthodox priests. So much wisdom. Thank you for these uploads.
@NFS0038 23 күн бұрын
Unfortunately, for most of us, pain is necessary to teach us how true Jesus Christ is. Otherwise in our arrogance and ever deepening spiral downward towards self satisfaction, we would not see any truth or reason for God's gifts of grace and eternity to us (which takes the spiral downward and flips it around, making it a spiral upward towards purity and Godliness for all eternity). This is the moral of the story of Revelations, by the way. The increasing scale of severity eventually culminating in cataclysm is necessary to reach the wicked, who otherwise believe they do not need God to exist, and in their hubris must be taught the very real weakness of the human condition. Eventually even incomprehensible suffering and death are attempts by God to save us from ourselves, and some people even after all of that will refuse His sovereignty. Lord, have mercy on us.
@ZBielski 9 күн бұрын
The amount of wisdom and truth in orthodoxy is what has led me to the church. Looking into the saints and what kind of people they were and how they worship. I fell in love with the saints. If you like this you will love their writings.
@tuck-brainwks-eutent-hidva1098 12 күн бұрын
As one who has lived with chronic pain of several kinds for some time, this is very encouraging to me! Keeping it for future pain "episodes"! 😉🙏🕯️☦️
@denverrandy7143 24 күн бұрын
Thank you Father for these daily teachings,I really do enjoy them.
@charlotteturner1011 13 күн бұрын
This was such an incredible teaching!!!❤🙏🏾
@Emmalynrosie 23 күн бұрын
I suffered a lot the last year and a half. And I finally found God at the end of it. I am saved. It was for God’s reason
@WillieUnvlkan 23 күн бұрын
Hi Emmalyn Good evening. I hope my comment didn't sound as a form of privacy invasion your comment tells of a wonderful woman with a beautiful heart which led me to comment I don't normally write in the comment section but I think you deserve this complement. If you don’t mind can we be friends? Thanks God bless you….🌺🌺🌺
@Emmalynrosie 23 күн бұрын
@@WillieUnvlkan awww hii💖💖😊😊
@WillieUnvlkan 23 күн бұрын
@@Emmalynrosie Hi Emmalyn good morning ☀️ how are you doing, it’s amazing to hear from you. Where are you from?
@henrydobson3527 23 күн бұрын
Thank you father Josiah for this inspiring message. May our wonderful God bless your ministry!!
@carolflower9672 23 күн бұрын
Father Josiah: Thank you for this Excellent video on PAIN & SUFFERING LORD HAVE MERCY ON US
@7robynm 24 күн бұрын
Thank you Father! Such a beautiful discourse/reflection.
@WillCharge 24 күн бұрын
Lord Jesus Christ have Mercy
@metamentality9818 19 күн бұрын
Thank you father, for such engaging talks
@jacobharrod6688 19 күн бұрын
Thank you for this video father + PNP team. Excellent resource.
@georgioupeter 18 күн бұрын
Beautiful, thank you Fr.
@adelinacod5683 23 күн бұрын
So proud to be romanian orthodox! God bless you!💖
@rise4rumtheeashes987 10 күн бұрын
Thank you
@angelachiorean5151 22 күн бұрын
May God , all Saints and Angels deliver us from Suffering!! Amen
@meangreenmememachine2890 21 күн бұрын
thank you father ☦
@Metoches 20 күн бұрын
Amen Father
@adamsmith-fp2fk 24 күн бұрын
Thank you father . And thank you also for speaking about the genocide in Gaza
@gameboygrill9353 24 күн бұрын
Wow, so good. Was great to hear and meet you at the conference, thank you Fr. Josiah.
@grunerteedaughter3298 24 күн бұрын
God bless! ☦
@UnworthyBranch 24 күн бұрын
Glory to God☦
@IfbbProMartaeRuelas 24 күн бұрын
As a professional bodybuilder and athlete the metaphors hit hard and deep. Thank you father! I have this on repeat today. Deeply edifying...
@WillCharge 24 күн бұрын
I've found much satisfaction with going to gym recently, seeing the body adjust and get stronger is a great image of how the spiritual life can develop if we trust in the Lord. Definitely grateful to God for the ability to have a body capable. Hope you find the gains your looking for material and immaterial brother.
@KayKayClaudette-mh4wc 24 күн бұрын
Thank you, Father. I needed to hear this today.
@angelachiorean5151 22 күн бұрын
❤ God bless you father for all your work ! THANK YOU !
@JesusTheOnlyGod 19 күн бұрын
Im a new christian and I love ur content
@mickyguy157 24 күн бұрын
Well timed. Thank you, father
@Golden_writes550 23 күн бұрын
Very encouraging...
@JustinaRoxanneMiller 23 күн бұрын
Thank you so much Father for this reflection, in particular. I am struggling deeply with the path I am on and am so thankful to hear these words of encouragement, reminders from our holy fathers that this life is to prepare us for glory. God bless you and your service. In Christ, Justina
@bisonvalplissken8501 24 күн бұрын
Love this! Praise God!!
@sandi9546 24 күн бұрын
I downloaded the app and it's great. Thank you.
@DChristina 22 күн бұрын
Can you please say the name of the app? Am rather low tech and missed this. 🙏🏼💕
@NFS0038 22 күн бұрын
@@DChristina patristic nectar publications
@DChristina 22 күн бұрын
@@NFS0038Ah of course- the obvious escapes me. Thanks!
@WORKOUTSOLUTIONS 23 күн бұрын
❤✝CHRIST IS RISEN ✝❤ ❤💪🙏✝GOD BE WITH US IN OUR FIGHT AGAINST EVIL AND TEMPTATIONS ✝🙏⛪🕊
@danielleericaclark55-11 24 күн бұрын
Love this!
@WillieUnvlkan 23 күн бұрын
Hi Danielle how are you doing
@blabbergasted4380 21 күн бұрын
Thank you! God's grace saves.
@perrymeyer752 24 күн бұрын
Thank you Fr Josiah
@ArchangelIcon 22 күн бұрын
Excellent video. It's one of the subjects that atheists use to question the existence of a God of love.
@ZuniPuebloChavezAnasazi 21 күн бұрын
Like a cool drink on a HOT day. Thank you. Cristo anesti.
@Kreiger27 21 күн бұрын
Thank you for this I need it
@hrvatskinoahid1048 23 күн бұрын
The very fact that people in the world still experience pain and suffering is due to the mystical truth that God's Divine Presence in the world, the Shechinah, is still suffering along with us in our temporary condition of spiritual exile and the continuing destruction of His dwelling place, the Holy Temple in Jerusalem.
@ZBielski 9 күн бұрын
My problem is if i let this truth take my pain away then i feel as though i lose that humility and am unworthy. When im happy i feel ashamed.
@jodiekohut9443 23 күн бұрын
My trials and tribulations have filled me with hate. I have not become a better person . I’m not pleasant to be around . I don’t know how to change
@Guillermojorgemiller 23 күн бұрын
This is common to many, God can still reach you and open your eyes to His love despite such hurts. I will be sincerely praying for you, Jodie. From a sympathetic hurting heart.
@maxvarjagen9810 22 күн бұрын
1. Dont try to change yourself to please those around you. That will make you hate them more. 2. You can’t change yourself. If you try you’ll just build up your ego and become insecure. Have faith in Christ and he will change you. 3. Follow the hate back to its source, and you’ll find the devil. Hate him, not your neighbors. He is the ultimate cause of your misery, not them. 4. Use the hate for the devil to fuel you to good. Recognize that there’s nothing that pisses satan off more than being humble and treating people with kindness, especially when they don’t deserve it. Thats how you get your revenge. Good luck.
@DChristina 22 күн бұрын
Helping others works wonders. Look to see how you can do this in your sphere, and if nothing reveals itself- volunteer at your church and in your community.
@tinakarras7571 22 күн бұрын
The Bible says " submit to God, resist the devil, and he shall flee from you." Start reading the Word of God, it is Holy Spirit filled that gives us supernatural strength and inspiration from above. Take every bad thought captive, bring it to Jesus, and be joyful and sing a new song to the Lord. Lean on Jesus He came to set us free. God Bless you.😊
@qparxiii 10 күн бұрын
A very hard saying. The only thing that I ever wanted is purportedly only in this life. It's fine if my story is dismissed. I don't want to be bad leaven or a distraction. I was always alone my whole life in a dysfunctional home full of misery and eerieness that even catalyzed sleep paralysis. I always dreamed of eventually being a good steward of my dream girl. I inadvertently obtained Her randomly, not being ready, and on very prodigal terms and setting. Losing Her finally seared into me the value of virtue. I have no idea what in the hell I could possibly contribute to God or even myself now other than survival and burning in regrets and worry of tomorrow. I don't think I'm innately eligible to trust God even though things have gotten better. I know who I naturally am.
@codygraham2713 22 күн бұрын
Father I have been exploring orthodoxy for about a year now, strictly in the online sphere. I can feel my heart growing hungrier and hungrier as time goes on. I am 27 years old with a wife and three kids, we both grew up Mormon. My wife is now growing more tired of this and I want to bring my family to an Orthodox Church but I fear my wife will be shocked by the imagery and style of worship that is present in orthodoxy. Chants, icons, prostrations, etc. Do you have any suggestions on how I can prepare her for this? Thank you!😊
@sadgreeneyedbrunette 23 күн бұрын
❤️🩹☦️
@atiikam 3 күн бұрын
u r amazing
@nesildomusic 21 күн бұрын
Is it wrong to hate summer?
@MDBYSL 22 күн бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="699">11:39</a> the "wrestling school" and this topic of suffering coincides with Jacob wrestling with a Man who is God in Genesis 32: 24-32. Jacob ran from Esau, deceived his father and ran from Laban. God was teaching Jacob to stop running. Face your problems to receive the blessing. Do not let go of the Man who you're wrestling. Instead, continue to wrestle, fight, don't give in. In the process, you will suffer greatly (Jacob's hip socket out of place with one touch and walked with a limp for the rest of his days) but; your reward will be great! Jacob the supplanter whose life was struggle, was then blessed and named Israel, one who prevails with God. His character was completely changed then on.
@wrongsquirrel9520 24 күн бұрын
What are those books behind your left shoulder labeled 1-5? Thank you father!
@7robynm 24 күн бұрын
@wrongsquirrel9520 I’m willing to bet/guess they are the volumes of the Philokalia.
@twaho 23 күн бұрын
What happens when we fail these trials and give in due to mistrust in God?
@atomicsnowflake 23 күн бұрын
We're expected to pray, confess, pick ourselves up and carry on 🙏🏻☦️🤗
@twaho 23 күн бұрын
@@atomicsnowflake And if we keep failing and it gets worse, more dark and more quiet?
@thedreadtyger 22 күн бұрын
@@twahoforgive me. we can only get up, immediately asking for forgiveness, and go forward from there. beg for God's help, the prayers of the Theotokos and of your namesaint and of the Holy Martyrs. beg for help to be faithful. i am just an old man who lives in the country, not overly bright or of great wisdom, but i have lived for 64 years and still fight the devils and the world and my own withered and failing flesh every day. i cannot compare my suffering to yours, but this is the only way i have seen to belong to Christ. please pray for this ridiculous old man, Andreas.
@twaho 22 күн бұрын
@@thedreadtyger ❤️
@tinakarras7571 22 күн бұрын
Start reading the Word of God. Start with the Gospel according to John. Those Holy Spirit filled words will encourage you and give you supernatural strength to overcome. The Holy Spirit, the Comforter will come upon you.. You will experience such joy that is not understandable in the world. Keep reading the Words of Jesus, they are Life, God Bless you 😊 Submit to God, resist the devil and he shall flee from you.
@seta2382 23 күн бұрын
What is the title of the book Fr Josiah read from?
@Resurrection_society 20 күн бұрын
Ibrahimovic became an orthodox priest?
@turner373 22 күн бұрын
What about animal suffering?
@kodiakcopper1095 19 күн бұрын
I understand about being tested ,I hear what you’re saying , but I was wondering if I could get a week off from it. I’ll fill out whatever paperwork for the vacation time.✌️thanks!
@serenajackowski5891 20 күн бұрын
But why should children go through these trials?
@hermitageofthesandpiper 23 күн бұрын
Why doesn't the Orthodox faith believe in substitutional atonement?
@reeckstar6625 23 күн бұрын
The orthodox don't have any particular dogmatic view of the atonement.
@kanellossyrmopoulos7132 19 күн бұрын
The whole creation was designed to suffer. Since the beginning of time. Struggle and suffering is the staple motivational power for creation to sustain itself. Unfortunately.
@Nenad-ICXC-Shuput-GFAMMA 20 күн бұрын
Did not have to take that drink, that was horrible
@diagramo 22 күн бұрын
The teacher hits the student harder and the student accepts as he can see the finality - being a champion. It is something that is palpable but suffering without a proof that your suffering leads anywhere is just suffering in vain. Probably believing in something beyond us, like God, makes the suffering more bearable than vice-versa. I'm still baffled by this subject and to simply accept this version, based on some unproved ideas of some long dead people, does not work for me. Still searching....
@tinakarras7571 22 күн бұрын
Jesus came to teach us how to overcome the evils of this world. Suffering for Truth. God doesn't make us suffer. Sometimes he allows it, like in Jobs case.. He shows us how to be more than conquerors over evil. Read the scriptures and you'll see the big picture. He also says " I discipline the children I love". We suffer the evils of this world because we defend Jesus's name and Truth.
@roshandacummings3423 7 күн бұрын
Father Josiah, isn't that abusive? The painful discipline... imposition... whatever you want to call it, of a God who's intent to hurt you immensely so you can love him and thank you for it? No matter how many times I hear it or read it, the insistence of pain on the children of God sounds a bit unhinged and definitely scary. He is the God of the universe and there's nothing you can do about it. He will hurt you on purpose and we're to be grateful? I think Mother Teresa was quoted to say, "If God treats his friends like this, it is no wonder our Lord has so few of them." And......I'm want to agree with her! Help us understand, Father.
@dystopian-future 8 күн бұрын
""why does God CAUSE this pain"" Sounds like God is evil
@user-hb1yo5ep9y Күн бұрын
Suffering is NOT "SELF- IMPOSED", DESPITE the RECOGNITION sold by the ELITE❤ I am.DAVID, and I also witnessed this "THING"😊 So far, after THOUSANDS OF YEARS OF EXISTENCE,... "I" finally UNDERSTAND the "VALUE" of the word " *NO* "❤ (Will "USE" this realizatiin SOON)😂❤😂
@freedomhouse7348 22 күн бұрын
Nice to listen, but to see what happened in Ukraine 🇺🇦, where rissians bombed children hospital.... is it normal to watch suffering today and do nothing???
@ambientapathy777 20 күн бұрын
You mean the Ukrainian government that pulled a false flag and blamed Russia 🇷🇺
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