12 things I DIDN’T KNOW about TGTB HIGH SCHOOL Language Arts & Adjustments We Made // Next Year???

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Even though you research, you don't always grasp all parts of a curriculum and such was the case with THE GOOD and the BEAUTIFUL HIGH SCHOOL LANGUAGE ARTS when we purchased this for my 9th grader:
When you purchase new homeschool curriculum, you may have an IDEA of how its supposed to work, but the reality is many times, you just have to dig in and see for yourself. When I purchased The Good and the Beautiful Language Arts for High School, I had a little knowledge because my sister in law had used it for her high schooler the previous year. Apparently, I didn't ask enough questions! But that's life...you live and you learn!
So I'm going to share with you 12 things that I think would be helpful to know and understand if you are brand new to this TGATB high school course....or even if this is your 1st year using it!
This video is a collaboration with Colleen from "OUR BLESSED LIFE" I reached out to Colleen because she had experience with IEW, Lost Tools of Writing, and also The Good and the Beautiful high school language arts. Knowing what she knows now....having a senior high school homeschooler, would she do anything different with her language arts choices? Check out her video here:
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The backstory of the conundrum…should we continue with TGTB or go back to IEW/Lost Tools?
Collaboration with Our Blessed Life!
3:01 12 things I didn’t realize when we purchased
3:34 #1 confirmation email
4:07 #2 storage for Mom
4:28 #3 20/20 vision
4:46 #4 lots of extra helps
5:18 #5 grading the unit booklet
6:17 #6 unit schedule
7:19 #7 “extra” projects
9:14 #8 Mom’s engagement
12:00 #9 checklist for writing papers
12:48 #10 spelling dictation
13:43 #11 high school credits
15:18 HOW should we use this curriculum? What if you can’t finish all 10 units?
16:53 #12 How to grade & tailor the grading
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@simplejoyfilledliving 2 жыл бұрын

I always had Katie turn in a rough draft and I would give her things to correct without actually correcting it so she had to think through it. So I would say, "your grammar needs work", without telling her exactly what to fix. She was able to take it from there. We also continued using the LTW stand IEW skills. They help so much!

@OurHOMEschoolPlan 2 жыл бұрын

My dream is to get to the point where I can say, “your grammar needs work!” 😂 We aren’t there yet. But it’s slowly improving, which is WHY I had to add in the IEW checklist, specifically. The reminders there are invaluable until it becomes habit.

@simplejoyfilledliving 2 жыл бұрын

@@OurHOMEschoolPlan that's a great point. I love the idea of adding in those checklists.

@vickih5405 2 жыл бұрын

My teachers in high school always had us trade rough drafts with a classmate to edit. They didn’t look at our writing at all until we turned in our final draft.

@MYfriendsknow 2 жыл бұрын

Nice, but for my son that would not be 'teaching' That would actually be one of the reasons that we took him out of public school. When I find mistakes in my son's work I explain it to him in detail ... so that he understands clearly - this is how he has improved so quickly and is a year or 2 ahead of the neighborhood kids here. I saw that in the online public school during the pandemic, the teachers would opt out of teaching and just presented the work and assigned an assignment, then graded it and moved on. I would stop to ask the teacher in a parent / teacher email and got little to know info. If that is what we were getting for our tax dollars, then it was NOT good enough for our son. My son was typically the youngest in the class and always near the top of the class. He was in AP classes. He is happier and knows that he can learn more at home because his questions are not ignored anymore. Teachers in Pub schools don't have enough time for all the questions and everything else they are required to do.

@simplejoyfilledliving 2 жыл бұрын

@@MYfriendsknow I did the same when necessary. Generally though, my daughter made careless mistakes and was able to correct them on her own with just a little guidance. If she truly didn’t know, then of course that becomes a teachable moment. Part of the beauty of homeschooling is that you know what they know.

@Michelle-sl9gj Ай бұрын

We just finished the HS year 1 curriculum. She liked one of the books, but the rest were just ok. She prefers fantasy. She really enjoyed Patterns on the Wall. I really likes that they have you read Up from Slavery since it is written by Booker T. Washington that lived during that time. I have read one of the books she will be reading next year, and I loved it! It is now one of my favorite books!

@OurHOMEschoolPlan Ай бұрын

What did she think of “Up From Slavery?” I know kids that loved that book and others who didn’t. I loved it!

@sjones9944 2 жыл бұрын

This is by far the best video I've seen for tgab highschool! You did such a great job breaking everything down.

@OurHOMEschoolPlan 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I barely scratched the surface of what this is!!! ;) But it’s always helpful to point out the things that are not necessarily on the website.

@AbrahamsBridges Жыл бұрын

I’m subscribed to both of you gals now. Thanks so much!

@OurHOMEschoolPlan Жыл бұрын

You’re welcome!! I’m so glad you’re here!

@cottingtonmae Жыл бұрын

I wanted to comment that I sooo appreciate these videos even a year or two or three later!! Thank you so much for doing them! I am excited to move my daughter on to the HS levels, as she has so far liked TGTB from levels 3-6 so far. I know the HS levels will be slightly different for her, and I want to make sure to challenge her while still keeping it fun. And good to know about the grading for completion, so, I will need to change that up! You are so good that you pulled out the checklists anf whatnot from IEW!!

@OurHOMEschoolPlan Жыл бұрын

Yah!! You are so welcome! Regarding the checklists….the thing I’ve noticed about homeschooling, curriculum’s teach things differently. But that doesn’t mean you throw away what you’ve learned. Why not take the best of everything and create your own way?!?! 😉

@melissacapps8453 2 жыл бұрын

I can’t thank u enough for this video. This is the only video about the HS TGTB that really gets into the nitty gritty. I’ve been on the fence about their HS for a while. It would work for one of my kids but I have one that struggles and it just doesn’t seem like a good fit. Thanks again for this!

@OurHOMEschoolPlan 2 жыл бұрын

You are welcome!!! I don’t even know if I scratched the surface on this program!! :) it does have a lot of grammar practice exercises in the booklets that I didn’t show. I figured I’d do a formal review at the end of the year, but I’m glad it helped you!

@CalmintheChaosHomeschool 2 жыл бұрын

Great video!!! Thank you!

@OurHOMEschoolPlan 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you and you’re welcome! 😉

@ourthriftyhomeschool 2 жыл бұрын

This is so helpful! High school can be so daunting…I’ve been so curious about TGTB language for high school, so this was hugely helpful!

@OurHOMEschoolPlan 2 жыл бұрын

Yea, the thought of high school can’t be intimidating. I’m so glad this was helpful to you.

@simplejoyfilledliving 2 жыл бұрын

Those additional videos were so helpful!

@OurHOMEschoolPlan 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed!

@JoyfulNoiseLiving 2 жыл бұрын

Ha ha! The magnifying glass! 😆 That’s awesome, Rachel 👍🏻👏🏻

@OurHOMEschoolPlan 2 жыл бұрын

😜👁it’s so tiny!!! 👁😜

@HomeSweetHomeschoolLife 2 жыл бұрын

This was so helpful!

@OurHOMEschoolPlan 2 жыл бұрын

Yah! Glad it was!

@homeschoolingthroughhighschool 2 жыл бұрын

Presentations with an audience is a must. We do it about twice a year. I'm thinking of doing it more often.

@RockSimmer-gal4God 2 жыл бұрын

My God sister loves TGTB language arts for her kids and it got me interested and when I pulled my kids out of school their reading wasn’t grade level and TGTB got them there. I’m loving the grammar work in TGTB language arts!!! I’m planning on using the high school levels when we get there but unsure. The answer pdf in the email I doubt I would find on my own. The videos sounds awesome!!! We add extra time for the lower levels as my kids are below grade level in language arts!!! I’m already engaged on the independent work.

@OurHOMEschoolPlan 2 жыл бұрын

Now that I’m using TGTB for elementary, I love it. I love the variety, the incorporating poetry and art, all of it. It makes learning more interesting in my opinion. So it does not surprise me that your kids reading levels have improved!! Good for you, Mama!!

@kgn61 2 жыл бұрын

I agree 100% in regard to tayloring the curriculum for your student!! We used TGATB for middle school and now 9 th grade. We love TGATB! Very thorough, although we may look into IEW after listening to your input!! Thank you!! Our Blessed Life has been so helpful to us as well!!

@OurHOMEschoolPlan 2 жыл бұрын

I mean If TGTB is only going to have 3 years for high school, right? I actually just added in IEW got my 6th grader bc the way TGTB was teaching how to write was confusing her in some places. So knowing how IEW works, I figure we can add in a unit here and there WITH TGTB. The step by step IEW is so helpful while you’re learning to write. Thank you so much!!

@kgn61 2 жыл бұрын

We actually used level 6 TGATB LA for 8th grade, due to gaps coming out of public school. We are using level 7 now for 9th , which is considered advanced 8th grade or regular 9th grade per TGATB website! WE LOVE IT!! So much important information and the accompanying course companion is awesome!! So much more comprehensive than level 6. We’ll be finished by December and will either do book studies or begin TGATB HS year 1! We will add novels and book studies every year!! We do Easy Grammar/Daily Grams for grammar , it’s a great supplement! Thanks for the great information!!

@OurHOMEschoolPlan 2 жыл бұрын

@@kgn61 I actually wish I would’ve considered your route. We also did level 6 last year (8th grade). I didn’t know level 7 was also considered 9th grade or we mig it be done that. But it’s good to know for my 6th grader. :)

@karenposselt8275 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks that was so thorough! I have all 3 levels but you mentioned a couple of things I hadn’t thought of. I used level 1 for my son last year and we had mixed feelings. This year I’m mixing up levels two and three as they go with our world history curriculum. So we’re using the Middle Ages and Shakespeare sections, for example, and we’re going to save anything American for next year when we do government for history so we can do an American lit credit. We aren’t using most of the lit that comes with it. I’m doing other books that go along with our history. For the issue you mentioned with the tiny print, what I do is I don’t print it. I correct it using the computer, and on the computer screen you can easily adjust the print size.

@OurHOMEschoolPlan 2 жыл бұрын

The computer screen is a good idea. I just get weary of screens. I’m a paper girl! (Hence my paper planner videos! 😜) I don’t know if would’ve ever thought of buying two levels and mixing them!! Do you think the other years are very different than year 1 in terms of the overall “structure” and projects of the curriculum? (I don’t know if that makes sense) like spelling dictation on both? PowerPoint presentation?

@gayemarianesfox2405 2 жыл бұрын

You bought 2 and 3 and are pulling from each for one year? Is that confusing or do you have it simplified?

@simplejoyfilledliving 2 жыл бұрын

This video will be so helpful as people get started with TG&TB! Another thing I have seen moms miss is the reading challenge. Sometimes they don't realize that you are supposed to add extra books to the program.

@OurHOMEschoolPlan 2 жыл бұрын

Ummm…yeah…what are you talking about??? 😉 I might have seen it. But our history program also wants to add in books. And our church gives us books to read. Is the reading challenge just “add some additional reading?” Or is it adding books for another purpose?

@simplejoyfilledliving 2 жыл бұрын

@@OurHOMEschoolPlan it says to add 2-3 extra novels for additional reading. That’s it. So you could possibly count what you’re doing for other things. Whenever they refer to spend a certain number of minutes on the reading challenge, that’s what they are talking about.

@jdowis1561 2 жыл бұрын

@@OurHOMEschoolPlan in the front of Unit 1 are the Course Instructions where on page 2, under Course Reading Challenge, it refers you to the website goodandbeautiful.com/hs1 where you can download the PDF which gives you a list of books and asks you to choose 3. I think there were 12 books to choose from. I just found your channel. Great content! Thanks!

@OurHOMEschoolPlan 2 жыл бұрын

@@jdowis1561 Thank you!!

@mydaughtersbeautifulmind 2 жыл бұрын

One blessed life sent me. Thank you!

@OurHOMEschoolPlan 2 жыл бұрын

Wonderful! Thank you for watching!

@sheilasepulveda9758 2 жыл бұрын

This is our second year using TGTB for high school and so far so good. We only got through 8 units last year and I was totally fine with that. I do have a struggling learner that I sit with when she works on LA so nothing was really a surprise to me per say. My kids seem to like it but we don’t really have much to compare it to. I think someone else mentioned this but I don’t print the answer key, I just pull it up on my computer and ZOOM until I can see it 😆 It is super fine print!! Thanks for your video, I always like to see how other people do things in their homeschool ☺️

@OurHOMEschoolPlan 2 жыл бұрын

I wish I could sit with every kids for every subject. Then yea, no surprises!! My son likes to work independently though. :) zooming on the computer is good idea!

@sheilasepulveda9758 2 жыл бұрын

@@OurHOMEschoolPlan I sit with my struggling learner out of necessity…I have twins. One of them does it totally independently and the other needs me a lot!

@SevenInAll 2 жыл бұрын

You're right that it can be confusing to figure out where the answer key is! Love this collaboration idea and video! One of the reasons we put the 10th grader on TGTB Language Arts is because she has very solid grammar skills as far as the nitty gritty of word choice, punctuation, capitalization, etc. (mainly from Abeka) and she is naturally good at organizing and putting together compositions (I don't really think she learned that from anywhere in particular)--Abeka pretty much does the exact same thing for all 4 years of high school, so we just had her do one year, she learned it, and then moved onto something a little more 'fun' for her. For us, she does it 100% independently, and just asks questions whenever she has something she's not sure about, and goes over her writing assignments when she's done with mom or me once she has a solid draft (and I am also the pick it apart type. lol! My mom is not as tough as I am on writing...) You're reminding me that my mom wants me to print out unit 8 for her...when we finish it I'll probably make a video reviewing my thoughts on its strengths and weaknesses.

@OurHOMEschoolPlan 2 жыл бұрын

I’d love to hear your thoughts on the strengths and weaknesses. I do love that they still drill the grammar. But what we’re struggling with, is definitely the application into the papers. It’s not necessarily punctuation, although commas with the quotes….😕 but more like subject verb agreement on more complex sentences…or like when listing items in the the same noun form or verb tense. Just as an example. But like you and I know….we pick those papers apart and hopefully our editing reviews will stick someday. I remember my dad picking apart my paper and being frustrated. But I also remember after awhile, adopting some of the style that he ALWAYS added. (I can remember editing papers when I was in high school, but don’t ask me what I did yesterday!! Lol! 😜😜😜) So Abeka is kind of the same throughout all 4 years of high school? Is that what you’re saying? I have some friends who think Abeka is the end all be all. And others with experience with Abeka who can’t/couldn’t wait to break away from it. (It’s the only curriculum used in one of the Christian schools here). I guess my impression of it for high school is that it never moves onto to more critical thinking and analyzing. It stays in the “grammar” stage, which can be frustrating for teens who are ready to be “dialectic.” (Those are classical education terms. Grammar meaning learning facts, dates, definitions… dialectic meaning questioning and reasoning, debate, and see how facts etc relate to one other, even across “subjects”)

@SevenInAll 2 жыл бұрын

@@OurHOMEschoolPlan Yes, I would say that your impression of Abeka is correct. It's excellent at the nitty gritty of grammar...but it never really moves on into nuances of strong argument, persuasive writing. Grammar + Composition (their big workbook) pretty much goes over the same points again and again through all 4 years, maybe the sentences to diagram and analyze get trickier as you go. It teaches everything that gets tested on the SAT/ACT English portions (I always say I credit Abeka with my perfect scores)....but it doesn't really get to the heart and soul of writing.

@jennajadeg7010 2 жыл бұрын

I love this. Seriously thinking of switching to TGTB for high school, 9th grader next year. She is a struggling learner though. Your ideas on a struggling learner going into TGTB. As a mom who struggles with Lang Arts, are there other ways to edit the papers, right now I am using Grammarly to make sure I have zoned in on what needs work. Phew! So much to consider. I feel like time is rushing by and I am just standing in the wind lol! Love to know your insights!

@OurHOMEschoolPlan 2 жыл бұрын

I feel you about the time rushing by!!!! 🥲 Let me give some thought because I’m trained in IEW and honestly it helped ME PERSONALLY with my own grammar. IEW does have a program that you could easily incorporate now called, “Fix It Grammar”. It’s about 15 minutes a day. You could do that together with your child if it’s general grammar you struggle with. Or, you could look at IEW for the basics of writing a paper. Im adding IEW into my 6th graders coursework now bc it’s sooo good at teaching a process and making that process attainable for any learner, IMO. TGTB does teach some of these grammar elements and some on the style. I just feel like the “process” isn’t as straight forward as IEW. So I think IEW is a solid foundation to have for ANY writing going forward. That’s my suggestion. But maybe Colleen has other ideas. I’ll ask her.

@jennajadeg7010 2 жыл бұрын

@@OurHOMEschoolPlan we do Fix Grammar with her on Fridays and even added Wordly Wise so she can have the tools for more words to use in papers :)

@OurHOMEschoolPlan 2 жыл бұрын

Colleen also suggested grammarly. So sounds like you’re doing all the right things!

@melissacapps8453 2 жыл бұрын

U r in the same boat as me. My son struggles and I’m not strong in this subject either.

@OurHOMEschoolPlan 2 жыл бұрын

@@melissacapps8453 I didn’t emphasize this very much….but, on the helping videos for each booklet, there are several videos to help with the grammar. So Mom could watch those also. Like help with sentence diagramming and other elements. So maybe you could learn it/reinforce it together. :)

@OneMamaToAnother Жыл бұрын

This was really interesting to watch. We've used TGTB Highschool 1 & 2 and like them. We don't do credits though, or a ton of grading so that's not an issue for us.

@OurHOMEschoolPlan Жыл бұрын

Thanks! I’m curious. Why no credits?

@OneMamaToAnother Жыл бұрын

@@OurHOMEschoolPlan there are no provincial requirements/reporting/graduation options where I live. Also, high school is only grades 10 through 12 here so the credit assignments of US programs don't fit.

@crystalkurtz1309 2 жыл бұрын

Ouch my head hurts😩 We started this and have kinda stopped because I felt like we were always missing something. I think we’re going to work more on IEW and LTOW because he only did a year each with both. His grammar is solid! He rocked 2 years of Essentials at CC. I really wanted to like this curriculum but I feel like there is so much hidden info kinda like “ but wait there’s more!” 🤣😅 We’re doing Shormann Algebra 1, Thinkwell honors biology, David Raymond’s American History, Dave Ramsey’s personal finance. He is doing great in all those classes! I love having someone else teach 😅 All my attention goes to his younger brother who is dyslexic.

@OurHOMEschoolPlan 2 жыл бұрын

“But wait! There’s more!” Lol!!! 😂 Yeah there is a lot of extra. My son follows the directions in the booklet. A lot of these surprises were because I can’t sit shoulder to shoulder with him and know every detail of all his curriculums. It’s not feasible (like you said). And honestly, he doesn’t want his mommy near him all day either! 😜 So yea….there’s always a little extra. But I do feel like after our third unit, I knew what to watch for. ;) My son seems to have forgotten what he learned in CC Essentials which is why I’m questioning. If your child rocked it… 👏 👏 👏 I am curious what IEW’s high school course is like. If that’s what you try, please let me know how different it is from Essentials IEW! How are you liking Shormann Algebra?? I’m fortunate to have several “math geniuses” in my family to help my son. I couldn’t figure out some of it on my own. 😳 and I was in advanced math in high school. Didn’t use it. So I lost it. 🤪

@homeschoolteenswithjenny Жыл бұрын

We're in Unit 3 right now with my 9th grader. Honestly, I didn't give the grading any thought when it came to just a completion grade. I check his work EVERY DAY though, so he is working WITH me and correcting his work as we go. IMO, they aren't going to just jump into independence their first high school year. I work towards that, but I don't mind partnering with him on key core subjects to make sure he is understanding. I also use Homeschool Planet as my homeschool planner, and I schedule one unit at a time for him. So he gets a checklist of assignments every day. I will let him start navigating how to break down assignments maybe next year bc I wanted him to get familiar with it first before I just hand him a unit book. Otherwise, he would get way too overwhelmed. --- We do geography as an added bonus (I don't count it on his transcript), but we don't do any art assignments in the back of the unit.

@rrichards1210 2 жыл бұрын

Is there any chance of a video flip through of the writing and grammar guide? I don't think TG&TB is for us but I am wondering if the guide would be a useful addition to our resource shelf. I will be looking into Lost Tool though, that sounds promising.

@OurHOMEschoolPlan 2 жыл бұрын

I may do a video on how it works. Bc I also didn’t really show what all was in the booklets. But I don’t see me doing a vid on just the grammar guide unless it was part of that. Can you buy the grammar guide separate? I get confused on what’s bundled together vs separate pieces. ;)

@ourfamilyvideos7283 2 жыл бұрын

Just bought, and you popped into my head..lol so I printed out 97 pages and 57 pages….the books are on the way(hoping they’re not in there lol). I agree answers are tiny

@OurHOMEschoolPlan 2 жыл бұрын

😂 ooohh…I’m in your head! Lol! TINY ANSWERS….SO TINY!!! 😂😂😂

@ourfamilyvideos7283 2 жыл бұрын

I would totally separate out and give a credit for geography. We haven’t used…been on the fence but middle of high school now..soooo

@OurHOMEschoolPlan 2 жыл бұрын

Sooooo….😂😂😂 😜 I think if the overall grade is an A, you wouldn’t need to separate out. Either way, it’s 2 credits/year. But if it’s not, then you might consider if 1 part COULD be an A.

@ourfamilyvideos7283 2 жыл бұрын

@@OurHOMEschoolPlan what I mean by separate is give the “A” for each, listing on report card grade for each.🥰

@kristyplatt6233 2 жыл бұрын

I have a son who started out using TGTB Year 1 this year. We dropped it after 3.5 units because he wanted a more rigorous literature plan, he didn't like stretching a thin novel over several units. He was frustrated with the unit checks requiring him to write about the same book repeatedly. I also wish that TGTB separated out the art and geography. Generally, we don't care for programs that incorporate several subjects. I'm sure that is just our personal quirk. If TGTB sold a separate art history program I would purchase it in a heartbeat. I also wish that there was a better teacher manual and a syllabus/course schedule. We have a CC background too. We use Janice Campbell's Excellence In Literature; and love it.

@OurHOMEschoolPlan 2 жыл бұрын

For somebody who loves literature, I could see how stretching the books out would be frustrating. It’s fine for my son, who doesn’t enjoy reading. But Colleen definitely added more literature to Katie’s routine also! CC definitely requires a lot more reading. How many books does excellence in literature include? I agree with the art history!! I bet a lot of people would buy that. They do such a WONDERFUL job with the art instruction and incorporating the history in. It is probably the thing that made me even look at TGTB in the first place!

@kgn61 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, our son does not love LA either so TGATB works well! He’s a math/ science guy! We looked at Intro to Literature, it’s very comprehensive, I know he would just shut down!!

@kristyplatt6233 2 жыл бұрын

@@OurHOMEschoolPlan Excellence In Literature has 10 modules per year, but the author is clear that you can choose the number of modules to complete. Generally there is one book per module with 1-2 honors books that are optional. What I love about EIL is the online context resources on her website. There is poetry, historical context, period music and art, as well as context material about the author. Grammar/spelling/vocabulary are not included like with TGTB; but the author recommends using a good writing and style handbook; she has one available that is extremely thorough and she even recommends a few others on her site as well. We pull vocabulary from the novels (you can easily google vocabulary lists from each novel if your student isn't able to pinpoint words to learn).. I also like that EIL incorporates an American, British, and World Literature year into the curriculum. That is something that you need to piece together with TGTB (although as Colleen did with Katie it can be done through online literature lists for high school).

@cottingtonmae Жыл бұрын

Ooh! I haven’t heard of this excellence in literature! My daughter has so far loved TGTB, and we will complete level 7 and level 8 book studies by the end of 8th grade. She does love to read and writes well, so, she often does several lessons at a time, but I know that may not work with those two levels. I need to check out what you used.

@OurHOMEschoolPlan 2 жыл бұрын

If you’ve used TGTB languages arts for high school, was there something else you didn’t realize until you actually started to use it?

@ReyDayami Жыл бұрын

What an amazing collaboration. Thank you both for doing this. We have been using TGTB and my daughter loves it. The L/A is amazing. I can’t wait to start the high school levels. The Level 7 FAQs asks: Can I count Level 7 as high school credit? A: The instruction in Level 7 is comparable to 9th grade work. My question is: Would it be okay to give a 9th grader Level 7 plus the Book Studies (level 8), then Y1 in 10th and so on? Would that be sufficient?

@OurHOMEschoolPlan Жыл бұрын

We never did level 7 or any book studies. We went from level 6 to high school. If I had to do it over, I’d do level 7 rather than go to high school. You could also add 1 book study and see how it goes. But if they say level 7 is high school level, to me, why add more? 😉

@ReyDayami Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much. This information helps me a lot. I also commented on Colleen’s video and went into a bit more detail of the situation I had. Both of you have helped me incredibly today, and I feel more confident about what I am doing. If you have a little chance I would love for you to read it, The LORD tells us that, “out of the mouth of two or three witnesses every word is established”, so I would love your input on it. Thank you so much, you are truly a blessing for so many of us.

@MYfriendsknow 2 жыл бұрын

love this video!!! I will not have my son do any art. Art appreciation is OK - but not something he hates doing. He studies music and sports and foreign language on top of all the core learning classes. We combine call our Bible class "Bible / Ethics" I don't weigh down my son on anything. I do NOT want him to learn to hate learning; I want him to enjoy learning. Just like I do not want him to hate cooking; I want him to find joy in as much of life as he can, even in the mundane - you can have joy in your heart. ** Actual learning vs just saying you completed a book. THIS IS ONE REASON THERE ARE LEARNING GAPS IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS. It is more important that they learned what they studied, and not that they just got through a book. Whose homeschool is it - The company you happened to buy the book from or YOURS? Whose kid is it - who KNOWS that kid better; who loves that child! Even in college, they do not go through every assignment / chapter of a textbook!

@trurenu8nelz944 3 ай бұрын

Looking for a foreign language for my kiddo's. Which program has been successful for you? Thx!

@kayegenin123 2 жыл бұрын

I’m in undergrad right now, and I will say all of the rubrics I have seen for my papers don’t emphasize grammar a lot. Most assignments prioritize the content and structure above grammar.

@OurHOMEschoolPlan 2 жыл бұрын

I remember that also from college. But that’s because they also expect you to know grammar and aren’t going to teach it, right? From a business standpoint, in the corporate world….when I saw emails, slides, or documents with really poor grammar, I couldn’t help but have opinions about the ideas they were trying to present. It definitely undermined their credibility a bit, even if it shouldn’t. It’s definitely a balance. I understand prioritizing the ideas over grammar on the insights journal. After I already made the video, I did have that thought, also! 😉

@kayegenin123 2 жыл бұрын

@@OurHOMEschoolPlan those are all great points! Grammar comes naturally to me so I forget about how some people need a lot of work with it!

@ourfamilyvideos7283 2 жыл бұрын

Ok, just rewatched and looked on their site. TGATB is. 1)English credit, art history.5 art appreciation.5, geography.5. That helps when building the transcript up. Ps you’re so funny..love your happy ways.

@OurHOMEschoolPlan 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!! 😜

@valleyhavenfamilyschool8951 2 жыл бұрын

I'm watching too many YT videos...Trying to decide between IEW SSS 1C and Fix-It Grammar or TGTB HS1. He has never used either. He has a history of dyslexia and ADD. I had settled on the IEW route but I'm seeing more and more videos loving the TGTB... He' will be in 10th grade. What do you think? Ugh, I hate FOMO...

@OurHOMEschoolPlan 2 жыл бұрын

Homeschool curriculum FOMO…I’m convinced it’s a real issue these days!! 😉 I hear ya! I don’t know anything about dyslexia. I will say…TGTB is two credits because it includes a lot more. The writing instruction is as good as IEW., IMO. So just depends on what the focus is.

@JuliaCantley 2 жыл бұрын

Glad I saw this because I don't think we'll be using it now. I know I'll already need to help my boy because writing is not his strong point, neither is research or studying or anything like that.... so, yeah....

@OurHOMEschoolPlan 2 жыл бұрын

I’m glad you found out! If writing is what he needs help with, I’d suggest IEW! It’s very manageable!! You can take a look at their free lessons here and see what you think! IEW.com/affiliate/280966/lesson2020

@jenniferharley8987 2 жыл бұрын

for printing larger, did you try changing print scale? its under other options on my menu when i print.

@OurHOMEschoolPlan 2 жыл бұрын

It comes as a pdf and it’s laid out two pages per 8.5 x 11 page. And it’s meant to print front and back so it’s a booklet. So I’m not sure how to change that if it’s pdf. I don’t have a pdf editor.

@jenniferharley8987 2 жыл бұрын

@@OurHOMEschoolPlan Ohhh. I had problems with my TGTB level 1 that I downloaded not with size but with that double side printing. My printer won't do it.

@OurHOMEschoolPlan 2 жыл бұрын

@@jenniferharley8987 😕

@ashleylindsey1829 2 жыл бұрын

So, what did you end up using this year, IEW, TG&TH, or LTW? I have a 15 year old who is crazy good at storytelling, speech and debate, and his vocabulary is amazing. But he needs help with structuring his essays. I was thinking IEW SSSC or Write Shop. But now I am so confused!

@OurHOMEschoolPlan 2 жыл бұрын

We did TGTB but next year we’re going back tonIEW for a year. IEW is good for structuring essays. TGTB isn’t as strong there. Lost Tools level 1 (I can’t speak to level 2 bc we’ve never done it) is also good for structure but more for specifically persuasive essays, not storytelling. :)

@ashleylindsey1829 2 жыл бұрын

@@OurHOMEschoolPlan do you think IEW SSSC will prepare my child for college? He is also doing Notgrass and will have some essays there.

@OurHOMEschoolPlan 2 жыл бұрын

@@ashleylindsey1829 I think IEW is good for the process and structure of writing. Some think it’s not as strong for creative writers. For college essays, it’s better than any writing instruction I ever received. So yes. I think it’s a good program college oreo

@thewordrules Жыл бұрын

I'm confused about the high school Language Arts Course Set, High School Cards Per their website:"These cards are used for memorization of poetry, Greek and Latin roots, and geography (countries of Africa and Northern Europe, Canadian provinces, major rivers and deserts of the world, and much more)." Are the same countries above studied for all the high school levels as this is the only geography set shown for each of the levels.

@OurHOMEschoolPlan Жыл бұрын

I can’t find my sons later units for some reason but I looked through units 1-5 of LA 1 and they barely scratched the surface of geography. I know he did Canada. He learned some European countries and rivers and also some US geography. So I think they just continue on. I don’t remember him doing Africa (but we also only did 8 units) for example. So I think they just bundle it all together (kind of like the grammar and writing book). I’ll see if I can find units 5-10 tomorrow bc I can’t remember which maps he studied and we did not buy LA2 this year. We are doing IEW for writing and progeny book studies.

@gracegreenwell2657 4 ай бұрын

watching this video 2 years later....has anything changed that you know of or been improved? especially with the grading.

@OurHOMEschoolPlan 4 ай бұрын

I actually do not know. I don’t remember seeing that they’ve updated anything from high school. But it’s possible I could’ve missed it.

@staceyfraker6222 2 жыл бұрын

What would you suggest for an upcoming ninth grader that does very poorly in writing? I don’t feel like Abeka covered that well enough for her.

@OurHOMEschoolPlan 2 жыл бұрын

Institute for excellence in writing. That’s actually what we’re going to be adding for my middle child next year and maybe also for my high schooler. It’s SOOO good for struggling writers bc it explains the process in steps. And it teaches how to add “creativity” through steps. I have a video explaining IEW in more detail (it’s the first video of my IEW vs LTW videos). But I think it’s excellent! Www.IEW.com/affiliate/280966/shop/all

@staceyfraker6222 2 жыл бұрын

@@OurHOMEschoolPlan thank you! Which level would you begin with if they are going into high school and never used IEW? I’ll check out your video!

@OurHOMEschoolPlan 2 жыл бұрын

@@staceyfraker6222 do you want to teach it or do you want a video to teach? When you check the link, you’ll see they have links for 9-12 grade. If you’d like the instructor to teach your child over video, there is a style and structure for high schoolers. Or there are videos to teach the teacher…..(that’s what I explain in my video) or…if you prefer no video…the theme based writing courses. Choose according to grade level (although it’s ok to choose a lower grade level your first year. They all start from the beginning, “easy + 1” (I also explain the theme based writing in my video - and I plan to do another IEW video in the coming months explaining how to choose, also. But it probably won’t be before June/July. 😉 They have guided on their website to help you choose which product.

@staceyfraker6222 2 жыл бұрын

@@OurHOMEschoolPlan I’d like to look at both options (me teaching and videos) I just didn’t know where to start since she’s 13 and has very weak writing skills. I’m going to watch your video today when I get a chance. Thank you!

@OurHOMEschoolPlan 2 жыл бұрын

@@staceyfraker6222 you’re welcome!! In my video, I’d don’t necessarily bring up the option of the videos teaching the student directly (that program is called “Style and Structure for STUDENTS” and it’s fairly new bc in the “olden days” 😜, the only video instruction was to the teacher and that program is called……”TEACHING writing style & structure”. That’s what I talk about in my video. If that’s confusing, let me know and I’ll just give you links to the different products. 😉

@ramblinghomeschoolers Жыл бұрын

Where can I find the Year-At-A-Glance for helpful scheduling on their website?

@OurHOMEschoolPlan Жыл бұрын

Did I mention the year at a glance? It’s been over a year since we’ve used this curriculum, but off the top of my head, I don’t recall a year at a glance. I think when I ordered it, I wasn’t sure what was in it until I flipped through all the units.

@ramblinghomeschoolers Жыл бұрын

@@OurHOMEschoolPlan at approx the 6:15 minute mark you talked about year at a glance and suggestions of pacing the 4 or 5 day a week schedule -- i was just curious where that was on website-- I'll keep looking on the website ;-) for it

@OurHOMEschoolPlan Жыл бұрын

@@ramblinghomeschoolers ok. I wondered if that‘a whT you were talking about. I was thinking a “scope and sequence”. I’ll see if I can find it, too! 😉

@OurHOMEschoolPlan Жыл бұрын

@@ramblinghomeschoolers I actually did find a scope and sequence for all of the courses: (linking it just in case) www.goodandbeautiful.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/High-School-Language-Arts_Scope-and-Sequence_3-Year-Program.pdf I couldn’t find the schedule. I’m wondering if I found it on the Facebook group. Sometimes people put files out there they create themselves. I DID find this, under the FAQ section for the HS LA1 course: “Because the focus, reading speed, and experience of each students is hugely different, the time needed to be spent each day varies widely. The average student will need to spend 45-60 minutes a day + time spent on the High School 1 Reading Challenge for a 4-day school week (determined by the student and teacher, usually an average of 15-20 minutes a day) 35-50 minutes a day + time spent on the High School 1 Reading Challenge for a 5-day school week (determined by the student and teacher, usually an average of 10-15 minutes a day) Advanced students should be able to finish the course in less than one school year by spending the times listed above. However, students that are slower but still want to complete Honors Units Studies can simply spend more time each day. Average advanced students that spend the maximum time listed above are expected to finish High School 1 in 1/2 a school year. Average advanced students that spend the minimum time listed above are expected to finish the course in 2/3 of a school year.” Hope that helps. Check out the Facebook group for TGTB middle/high school!

@ambers4524 Жыл бұрын

I was wondering if you would give me your honest opinion. I’m really not great at writing. I’m not great at English Language Arts. That said, I have a blossoming 5th grader who is still learning to write but when it comes to more complex and advanced writing, I’m afraid I won’t be able to help them. The thing is, this child doesn’t do well with computer courses. They have been in EIW5 this year and we’re behind and I’m not much help. Do you believe that the IEW video course, along with the parent training, can teach children how to write well-even if the parent isn’t great at writing? My husband is good at writing but I need curriculum for homeschool and then I can utilize him as a “tutor,” as needed. Your input is greatly appreciated. I’ve been HS for over 6years and this is the first time I’m feeling I am unable to prepare them to be successful.

@OurHOMEschoolPlan Жыл бұрын

First of all, I’m humbled that you think so highly of my opinion! 🥰 and that’s all this is. I think that if you wanted to get the IEW student style and structure with the videos, and you watched them with your child, YOU would learn a ton! BUT- If you didn’t want your child to have to learn from the video along with you, and you wanted to learn WITH them…. You could get the TEACHING style & structure and a themed unit to do with your child. Here’s how that work. The TEACHING style and structure would teach you the concept so that you could relay it to your child and be able to help him. Let’s say you get the themed unit, “All Things Fun & Fascinating”. You’d follow that book….you’d already understand the concept, so working through the teacher portion would be much easier for you to understand. Then that themed unit Teachers manual would ALSO guide you in how to teach your child the grammar element that they will be adding into their paper….like adverbs, like different openers. This grammar elements aren’t really addressed in the TEACHING style & structure. That program sticks to the structure of writing only. I hope that makes sense. Please let me know if doesn’t, but also….hint, hint….I’m going to be doing an IEW video at some point bc I just ordered my materials. And I am going to be teaching my younger two from themed units bc my middle child also doesn’t do well with the video teaching. :) I’m. It sure how quickly that video will come out and when you want to decide….but that video IS coming. If you want to know more details about the themed units….this video is where I explained better about how those work. (And also the teaching style & structure). kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mKpjfsuo0cm6pas.html

@ambers4524 Жыл бұрын

You are obviously well versed in this curriculum and I feel like you have children who are relatable to my own. I also greatly respect your Biblical view and appreciate your wise teaching (I watched a few of your other videos and they ministered to my heart). 😊 So, if I understand you correctly, Teaching Style & Structure is just that- how to write for each structure given (like a letter). And themed units teach them grammar concepts and how to use them within the writing? Do the video lessons do all of this for me? I feel like I may need to do video lessons along side of her, in addition to having a teacher’s manual. In using BJU press English, it was very good for having the grammar concepts and teacher notes when I needed them. I bought EIW to help with writing but it’s taking forever and I feel at a loss sometimes when I don’t have a teacher’s manual to look back on, when needed. I need something that will teach the concept, like this is an adverb and this is how to use it in a sentence and now you’re going practice this as well as observe it within we’ll written literature. I feel like other programs just cram all these terms and sentence diagraming down their throats and then expect them to remember it and know how to write a well developed paragraph including everything all at once. 😣 I’m also having my child tested for dyslexia this year. So I will be waiting to order anything until after that testing is completed. Thank you, again for all of your Godly wisdom and insight. 🥰

@OurHOMEschoolPlan Жыл бұрын

@@ambers4524 you are so kind! I’m happy to be able to share truth and thankful that the Lord can use me to encourage you. 😉 ok now that you’re asking these questions about the videos, I’m not sure. It’s been awhile since I’ve watched them (I need to rewatch and see bc I DO remember him teaching (for example) the -ing opener. For example, “Sitting, the young child ate his dinner.” I remember Andrew Pudewa saying, “the thing following the -ing should be the thing doing the -ing.” 😉 and that’s on TEACHING style & structure. So maybe he does also teach all the grammar elements. So the themed units reiterate the writing structure that TEACHING style and structure teaches. You’ll get the same teaching in both. You’ll just get more details from Andrew Pudewa on the why and how to teach it to your students. You could watch those videos with your child also. Even though the audience is teachers, your child might enjoy the video instruction with you. 😉 But I will say the teachers manual for the themed unit is also VERY good and very clear. That’s the thing about IEW and why it’s so popular. It starts easy. And it just adds one element every lesson. So you’re constantly practicing all the things you’ve learned. Paper 1, you write using element “A.” Paper 2, you’re using “A & B.” Paper 3, you add on “C,” so you use “ABC.” And you just an element every new lesson. Does that make sense? That’s why it’s so effective. And then the checklists remind you to check in your paper, all the elements you’re trying to use. And if you missed one, add it. And then check it off! The student style and structure and videos will teach it all. And you could definitely do that alongside your child. And then just help her through the assignments. Andrew Pudewa is an excellent teacher. Have you tried the free trial? It will give you and idea of what it’s like. I’m not sure if there’s a sample of the teaching style and structure videos. I hope that all made sense. 😉

@michellechannell1219 2 жыл бұрын

Would you say a child that has never used TGTB , that also aren't good writers begin with US level 1? Or in Level 7.

@OurHOMEschoolPlan 2 жыл бұрын

We never did level 7. But if I had to do it over again…now knowing that level 7 can count as high school, I might have started there. HAVING SAID THAT…. They say that in high school, they repeat all of the concepts learned in previous levels, just at a faster pace. So they say you can start there with no precious experience. The helping videos are very helpful, indeed!! You could always just take extra time for the papers and work through that process more closely with your child. So I guess my answer is, you could do either. 🤷‍♀️ if I were you, I’d look on their website and do my best to research level 7 and see what’s in it. The reason I might have considered this for 9th grade is knowing that TGTB only has 3 years of HS anyway. So adding level 7 means you can do 4 years. But like I also said….IEW is EXCELLENT for teaching the basics of writing and would do an excellent job in just 1 year. It’s very systematic and straightforward in how it teaches. But I think it would be too much to add together with TGTB. I might have been able to add IEW with TGTB level 6 though and skipped some of TGTB writing assignments. So maybe that combo could work for level 7. Just ideas. I hope it helps and didn’t confuse! :)

@yolacintia Жыл бұрын

We unschooled for 6 years, just read tons of books and focused on 2 extra languages (Spanish and Italian) Then we started with level 7, our first curriculum ever, and it tells you all you need to know. From what is a noun, to independent clauses, to the parts of an essay. We love it (haven't finished it yet) so we are going with TGTH for high school.

@colesonamission 2 жыл бұрын

I just found your videos as I was researching tgtb LA. I am a little hesitant because of our strong beliefs and reading that the creator Is Mormon. Is there anything hidden in the program that would slowly lead a child to Mormon beliefs? Everyone has an agenda nowadays it seems. Even others like masterbooks, they make it clear that Jesus is God and we need Him and I love them for that but their books can be boring. Tgtb la seems amazing but, does it push any beliefs or ideas about Jesus?

@OurHOMEschoolPlan 2 жыл бұрын

I understand your concerns and I had the same questions and avoided TGTB for many years for the same reasons. I also agree with you on masterbooks. I wish their approach was more creative like TGTB. So I personally, had friends from my own church use TGTB curriculum before I did….the high school curriculum in particular and I asked the same thing. So this isn’t just me saying this….there isn’t Mormon doctrine in the curriculum. Their isn’t a lot of deep theology at all (and their couldn’t really be if it’s going to satisfy so many denominations AND Mormonism. What it does have is: 1. Belief that God created the world 2. we should strive for good character (this is emphasized in Mormonism, but also Christianity….it’s just the “why” is different for the religions (it’s a result of salvation vs. being good earns you a higher position with God) but I’ve never the “why” addressed if that makes sense. I’ve been done several language arts with my younger kids also, as well as science and flipped through history (and done a couple of this lessons). I’ve never seen anything strictly Mormon in anything. There are many Christian’s who’ve used this curriculum and said the same thing. I view their curriculum as a resource for a subject, just like books at the library (I don’t look up what their authors believe, but I can tell by the content of the book if we agree.) I haven’t researched every author for every book in my home…..but I look at the content to see if it’s beneficial for my family. Same for this curriculum. They do have a doc on their site that even says where they may have quoted a Mormon, which curriculum it’s in, etc. if I remember correctly, it’s only a few quotes across all of their curriculum. The content of those quotes is what I look at and if it’s problematic. I mean if a scientist is explaining the water cycle, and they happen to be Mormon, does that make their explanation wrong? Thomas Jefferson said many brilliant things, yet I would never endorse his “religion”. He made his own “Christian” Bible, cutting out the parts he didn’t like. But I don’t go to Jefferson for theology lessons, Ultimately, you should do what your conscience allows you to do. I never fault anybody for not wanting to use the curriculum bc of their reservations about it. If your conscience won’t allow you, you shouldn’t use it. My conscience was eased when we tried the free science unit when my oldest was in 8th grade. I saw first hand that it was very high level faith in God’s creation presented. And then somebody I knew and trusted, used the high school curriculum and also said, there was nothing suspicious in it. The books are well known. The poetry is well known. And they ask you to do your own research in some cases. I hope that helps. 😉

@gayemarianesfox2405 2 жыл бұрын

I always get a rough draft even when she thinks it's the final draft lol. The problem is I don't always know if things are wrong, not punctuation or grammar but the other stuff.

@OurHOMEschoolPlan 2 жыл бұрын

I guess the point is communication, right?? Did the paper make sense? If so, success! “Answers May vary” means YOU decide! That’s my motto!

@gayemarianesfox2405 2 жыл бұрын

@@OurHOMEschoolPlan I guess so! :)

@kgn61 2 жыл бұрын

We don’t do Art, just grade what you do!

@OurHOMEschoolPlan 2 жыл бұрын

“Grade what you do “ meaning in the booklets??

@inkyangel 10 ай бұрын

Why didn't you pursue the higher levels of the Lost Tools of Writing instead of using The Good and the Beautiful for high school? I do note that TGTB does give extra credits for art and geography.

@OurHOMEschoolPlan 10 ай бұрын

Grammar, art, geography….. Plus we wanted to go back to IEW and relearn the structure of papers that way.

@HomeSweetHomeschoolLife 3 ай бұрын

First thing I did was delete the email😂They had to send it to me again.

@OurHOMEschoolPlan 3 ай бұрын

Email is easy to be ignored! I’m not sure why they don’t just make it a link and give you the “secret link” attached the books! That seems safer! 😂