$13,000 Sony 600mm f/4 GM lens review: MIRRORLESS WILDLIFE!

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5 жыл бұрын

We review the Sony 600mm f/4 GM lens (sdp.io/sony600) at $13,000, when used with a Sony a9 and 2x teleconverter. That's a pretty typical price; most people buy a 600 f4 because they want top-end wildlife performance. Sony's 600mm lens keeps up with the Canon and Nikon versions, and it's worth the price of entry... but there are a couple of big problems.
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@LodiVet 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for pointing out the issues with the mirrorless viewfinder and wildlife. My greatest pleasure in wildlife photography is watching the subject through my camera between shots. I'ld rather see my subjects directly, as opposed to an electronic rendering.

@paulinefollett3099 4 жыл бұрын

A great real world review. Keep them coming.

@brucehargrave4837 4 жыл бұрын

Despite 'all' the shortcomings of the A9, I have just bought one. I currently shoot the Nikon D850 and D500 with the Sigma Sport 150-600. From the videos I've seen (lots!, including Mark Smith's fabulous BIF work), the A9 and the new 200-600 zoom (I've preordered) will be the new combination of choice for those of us who can't justify a 400mm F2.8 or 600mm f4.0 prime. Yes, I could wait for the A9ii or for Nikon to make a Z series that can handle BIF, but I'm not getting any younger. At some point, you have to buy what's available out there.

@MBrady1970 4 жыл бұрын

How you getting on? Did you switch to Sony?

@omarsaad1575 4 жыл бұрын

Hey Tony and thank you for the video, can you please try the new lenses on the A 6400 and the A 6500 to see how they would preform generally in the APS C realm. thank you

@sionglooi8170 4 жыл бұрын

Have you tried using the Olympus Dot Sight EE-1 to help track fast moving subject?

@oneduelist 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the quick review Tony! Interesting hearing about the downsides of (even very slight) EVF lag when shooting at longer focal lengths. You might want to get that text-balloon-mouth checked out though. That's a serious medical condition, and also a little disconcerting.

@bertsteenbergen6729 4 жыл бұрын

Good and fair review. Just a question...how do you keep track of a fast moving subject in wildlife photography with an SLR?

@andywork8062 4 жыл бұрын

Lots of practice.

@TomReichner 4 жыл бұрын

Love your reviews, Tony. I also REALLY appreciate the way you interact with your subscribers and respond to the comments that people leave here on KZfaq. Thank you. I can't wait to see the upcoming video when you test the 3 different 600mm f4 lenses side by side.

@cmaciasjimenez 4 жыл бұрын

Most of the issues with the A9 (memory card speed, EVF resolution, Shutter lag) should probably be addressed with the A9II. The future is gonna be amazing. Thanks for the video!

@brentbalken9966 3 жыл бұрын

So I just ordered my Sony 600mm f/4 and I have the A9ii. If you could only get one tc, which would you prefer? the 1.4 or the 2.0?

@mynameisihv 4 жыл бұрын

Very nice review, looking at it as a whole not only focusing on the lens. There is the good and the bad. I agree with all the critics too and who knows maybe the rumours getting the A9-II in the autumn is true, at least it makes much sense in the light of gearing up for the Olympics by Sony as seen from the sports-oriented lenses.

@rolandtarr7686 4 жыл бұрын

Any chance of doing a detail comparison of the 400mm Sony GM with converters compared to the bare 600mm for wildlife?

@JCBShortFilms 4 жыл бұрын

I would love to see you guys make a video on finding the nodal point and using nodal sliders ;)

@rockmann88 2 жыл бұрын

Good info and comparison with Canon and Nikon. I even got the buffering error on my Sony a6000. I'm thinking about getting a used Canon 1DX MK 11 for wildlife and sports photography. New gear is way out of my price range now that I shoot for fun and not for commercial ad work.

@z4294967296 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for having more data in your videos. They’re super helpful!

@mith.8343 4 жыл бұрын

Nice review Tony. Thsnks.

@b93kda 4 жыл бұрын

“Long hikes like this” then walk in a park lol

@mikaelschulin4315 4 жыл бұрын

Nice review but I doubt that EVF-lag is relevant to more “down to earth” focal lengths than at 1200(!) mm. I mean it’s almost impossible to follow a bird in flight with what is practically a telescope.

@whereisramou 4 жыл бұрын

Hey, could we get a comparison between the 200-600mm and the 100-400mm GM ? That would be nice 👍🏻

@wildlifebybrianhoule 4 жыл бұрын

I'd love to try the 600 at 1200mm. I've yet to experience lag with the shutter. I"m only shooting the 100-400 GM however. Love my A9. He's right about weather sealing.I had a situation where a great grey owl was sitting nicely. Shutter was at 400. It suddenly flew my way. It was snowing gently. I cranked my shutter up as fast as I could. Managed a wicked shot, but in the process, I cranked some snow in on the shutter button which damaged the motherboard. it wasn't covered. :( Waaaah. So now I have a raincoat for negative weather. But I love everything else about it. The 600 looks great, but I think I might opt for the 400 2.8 because with the 1.4 and 2.0 TCs, it would provide some longer distances at F4 and 5.6 yet providing a 2.8 for situations where light isn't the greatest or when a subject is closer. I shoot wildlife only so not worried about sports. The ultimate would be a 100-400 f4 with the built in 1.4 tc like Canon or the Sony 200-600 f4. BUT until then, maybe the 400 2.8 would do the trick. I could always sell it at a good price later I imagine. I know one thing - I love my 100-400 GM, but there are recent situations with foxes and owls where I'm in heavily treed forests with tons of leaves (great to see after the horrible Canadian winter/spring we've had), but the lighting isn't always the best.

@GetOutsideYourself 4 жыл бұрын

A9ii coming soon. Sony guy confirmed it'll have a higher-resolution sensor and other "advanced features." As for me, I'm ordering the 200-600 to stick on my does-it-all A7R3.

@duncanwallace7760 4 жыл бұрын

A lot of the time for tracking fast moving birds, I could only do it with both eyes open, one watching the viewfinder and the other in the real-world. Its hard to do at first, but once you get used to it, you get more frames in focus. Haven't tried with EVF though.

@alanerpington5698 4 жыл бұрын

Have you guys had a chance to test out the A7R III's tracking for this sort of thing since the 3.0 firmware came out? Curious if it's much better than the older firmware.

@TonyAndChelsea 4 жыл бұрын

Check Chelsea's recent Sony vs Nikon Wildlife video

@scottcameron393 4 жыл бұрын

How does it compare to the af tracking on the Nikon d500?

@simianinc 4 жыл бұрын

Since the Rugby World Cup is in Japan for the first (and most likely last) time this year, it'd be a good time to release an A9 II

@ClassicalPan 4 жыл бұрын

Tony: "Here's an extensive list of everything wrong with Sony cameras." KZfaq commenters: "He works for Sony."

@paulbarnard5267 4 жыл бұрын

Nope this is a lead in to the A9ii release. He’s outlining all the issues with the A9 so he can say how they are all addressed by the A9ii.

@shareemibitsfala5534 4 жыл бұрын

Paul Barnard lol, ok

@99unclebob 4 жыл бұрын

Tony , this is awesome info, from you and other photographers Sony can now take the information and go back to improve the A9 in these areas and you know Sony will make it happen in the A9 mk2 ,maybe even a better sensor and 40 megapixels, mirrorless is great and still has a little way to go to be as good as the Nikon or Canon equivalent , Sony has done amazing things considering they only entered the dslr market place in 2005 and will catch up with Nikon/Canon in time.

@kailherc 4 жыл бұрын

I appreciate that you give us the positives and negatives. Great video. Mark Smith has a KZfaq channel and he uses both Nikon and Sony for birding. If your thinking.about the A9 for birding you should check him out. He doesn’t seem to have an issue with the EVF or lag that I can remember. His work is stunning.

@TonyAndChelsea 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah we love Mark! He has only been shooting at 400mm, though. We only discovered it was a problem with fast-moving birds at really narrow angles of view (which is exactly when lag would be a problem).

@njrtech 4 жыл бұрын

Mark just tested the 600mm f4 and 200-600G. His work is outstanding

@wassimal-malak2591 4 жыл бұрын

Honest as always .

@robwazny9416 4 жыл бұрын

Just wondering if you tried turning off the picture review function. I have a much slower FPS A7R and this allows me to track the subject without the lag issue. You can look at the pictures later and may give a faster frame rate.

@TonyAndChelsea 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's not reviewing the photos in the EVF

@manny75586 2 жыл бұрын

I'm watching this 2 years hence. It's funny how all of the issues are so far in the rear view. The a9ii was a massive improvement and that is likely about to be on version 3 in a few months. The a1 is light years ahead of the a9. It's crazy how fast camera technology improves and responds to areas that were lacking.

@barracade24 4 жыл бұрын

At the 9:44 mark what or how did you side mount the insta360 with?

@jaimeduncan6167 4 жыл бұрын

Great review.

@half-decentphotography6544 4 жыл бұрын

I'm intrigued. What's the black gadget you have in the hot-shoe of your a9?

@FabioEV 4 жыл бұрын

Impressions Photography seems like an insta 360 camera. That’s what allows tony to capture those very rounded videos you see sometimes in the review :)

@half-decentphotography6544 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks @@FabioEV, I googled Insta 360 and it definitely looks like that's what it is.

@rcquinn1 4 жыл бұрын

What hotshoe ball mount are you using for the Insta?

@Strengthoftenmen 4 жыл бұрын

I have an A9 and twice I’ve been caught in the rain and twice it effected the camera (shutter button wouldn’t work and black screen) if Sony release an A9 mark 2 with more megapixels and fully weather sealed then they’ve won.

@TonyAndChelsea 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for adding that, it's good feedback. Weather sealing is one of those things where it's really impossible for us to test.

@altonmarsh 4 жыл бұрын

Strengthoftenmen -Agree. Where’s the weather sealing, Sony?

@sadenb 4 жыл бұрын

I don't see why they do not do the weather sealing specially on these high end lenses and cameras that will be used in adverse situations.

@keithgoreham1463 4 жыл бұрын

@@sadenb They haven't done it yet because the body design would have to be fundamentally changed. I expect that Sony will eventually be forced to release a real pro-quality body to get real weather-sealing and better heat dissipation (see Panasonic S1/S1R). But whether they've begun that work yet... who knows? If they're smart, they have. But they may also dither on that for up to a year until the LMA gets its first two dozen L-mount lenses out and Panny becomes an actual threat.

@JoeMaranophotography 4 жыл бұрын

@@keithgoreham1463 Panasonic have always been a threat with M43 but fortunately people have been too easily influenced into thinking its not good enough when in reality its more than good enough.

@EmoEmu 4 жыл бұрын

The A9 always struck me as sort of a beta version of a really awesome camera when they launch the A9ii. Some things it does REALLY well, but then there's also these flaws here and there, that makes it seem like they just patchworked around the really awesome parts and got it out there. I suspect they'll have improvements on many if not all of your complaints on the next version.

@user-ym6lc7pk1e 4 жыл бұрын

The Emo Emu Sony has been innovating their mirrorless cameras so fast that it comes as no surprise that most of their first generation series are bit rough around the edges. Look how long it took them to release a7iii - a superb budget full frame that is still without a match a whole year later. I’m sure we are going to see a9Mk2 and a9R this fall with Japan Olympics coming up next year. Sony has long stated that they wanted to conquer Pro Sports shooters by summer 2020 and they are well on their path to achieve it.

@jenky1044 4 жыл бұрын

Great video. Thank you. So glad you shoot with both eyes open. More people should get use to that. *This way when an object goes by your lens you can still see it to chase it. If you close one eye you have shut down half of your vision. The other eye really isn't half either because it's in the viewfinder. *NOTE:. The eye that's in the viewfinder, you can still see past the lens if the subject goes by your lens the other direction. That lens is way out of my budget, unless it came as an accessory on a vehicle. Again thank you for the info and the test you did.

@JS-wz3km 4 жыл бұрын

Next time your in Jersey, go to the Great Swamp near Morristown, great place to get wild life photos.

@dannygo4230 4 жыл бұрын

I shoot sports (soccer) using Canon 7D with 300mm f4 with 1.4x. Got a chance to shoot with an A9 (with 70-200 f2.8) and looking forward to check it out, as it seems like this system just much better. However, I find that constantly switching from looking at the scene live to "look for the action" and then looking into the camera EVF to start to shoot to be tiring. I think it is because the focus for eyes is much different looking at the live scene, then having to look through the EVF and the constant readjustment becomes a burden throughout the game. It is just more transparent using regular mirrored DSLR. I am very near sighted, shooting while with my eye glasses. Your comment on the "lag" of the Sony may make things worse.

@Biker_Gremling 4 жыл бұрын

Tony, the resolution of an Optical View Finder is not infinite because the focusing glass does blur the image some. However, the image is is still more detailed than an EVF (so far).

@777sib 4 жыл бұрын

What was the maximum distance to your car when you shot with this gear? I would say. Not for wildlife or overseas.

@stanleymarcellussimons 4 жыл бұрын

I live in Jersey about 10 mins away from where you were shooting... Would have loved a meet and greet.

@johnnottingham1310 4 жыл бұрын

So far the a7r mk3 and a7 mk 3 in terms for focusing have performed roughtly the same, dispite more focusing points on the a73. Is this still the case when these longer lenses are added to the mix?

@edlazor6698 4 жыл бұрын

Which monopod is that?

@dima1353 4 жыл бұрын

A9II will be new platform camera i believe. Maybe bigger, with deeper handle and xd+uhs ii memory cards formula. But for now there is no even a7siii, so Sony is not ready for release new platform.

@quin7092 4 жыл бұрын

heyyyy does anyone know the name of the background music that starts at 2:13

@drewdaviesphotography6515 4 жыл бұрын

A7iiiR has a different AF system to the A9 and A7III. Lag on the A7iii has seriously decreased after the last 3.1 firmware and only seems to be improving. In regards to other lenses of this range, Im getting better results than the 7dmkii with Canon fit sigma glass on the A7iii. No requirement for focus tuning and far increased speed. I has anyone actually tried the A7iii properly for wildlife or sports or is only me getting good results? Not that I care, but Ive had people online slamming the MC-11 Sigma 150-600c and Sport version, saying they are going to show in a video why Sony glass wipes the floor with them but I don't see anything to show for it. Ok it might not be to professional standard for some. Isnt it the end result that counts?

@michalstoch 4 жыл бұрын

Would be great to have such a monster lens !

@DmitryBrodsky007 4 жыл бұрын

Tony your shutter lag quotes from imaging-resources for A9 is for Single AF (AF-S mode). But everyone knows that A9 works faster in Continuous AF mode than Single AF mode. What makes you confident that shutter lag for A9 if using CAF is same as when using SAF?

@TonyAndChelsea 4 жыл бұрын

As I say in the title, I independently tested it.

@DmitryBrodsky007 4 жыл бұрын

This made me go to Imaging-Resource site and research the shutter lag of popular DSLRS and Mirrorless cameras. Interestingly the fastest shutter lag I've seen so far on imagine-resource was on Fuji XT3 (0.064 with Mechanical Shutter) which beats both D5 and 1DXII. Also D5 shutter lag is 0.132 but D850 is 0.076, which is almost twice as fast as D5!

@beosmuinh956 4 жыл бұрын

Im wandering if we attach the 2x from sony and adapted with the canon ones with the 600mm. It would be 2400mm f4 :)))))

@beosmuinh956 4 жыл бұрын

Maximus Surrealius but it wont darker or brighter right. Or use dual 2x zoom :))

@TheExtraTerrestrial 4 жыл бұрын

Any chance you can do a comparison between this and the 500PF from Nikon?

@ozmid40scouple 4 жыл бұрын

Extra Terrestrial just buy the 500PF if you have a Nikon body.........its a KILLER and with the money you save over the Sony 600 you could buy a D5 or a D850 and a D500!

@TheExtraTerrestrial 4 жыл бұрын

@@ozmid40scouple I do have it, and it's awesome =) I was just curious to see how it does against the Sony 600mm. I bet the Nikon is just as sharp.

@dimitristsagdis7340 4 жыл бұрын

Can’t wait for the 600mm f/4 comparative video.

@rghurst 4 жыл бұрын

Not sure I understand your comments about the a9 AF vs a7riii AF. For BIF, I don't find either one of them does a consistent/adequate job in tracking mode unless the bird is in a clear blue sky or other very simple/contrasting/distant background which doesn't seem to happen that often. With close/complex backgrounds, I find I most often get better results using an M or L Flexible Spot (non-tracking) and depending on myself to keep the spot on the bird. Maybe I am missing something with the tracking setting, but ... I haven't tried 1200mm yet :-)

@TonyAndChelsea 4 жыл бұрын

yeah, the a9 with the latest firmware and the 600mm does a fantastic job of tracking small flying birds against complex backgrounds. It's by far better than any camera we've ever tested.

@zigmarsromanovskis 4 жыл бұрын

How this lens preforms a 6000 seris bodys?

@Rollergold4 4 жыл бұрын

Do u think the A73 would do any better with these big telephotos compared A7R3?

@TonyAndChelsea 4 жыл бұрын

Not really

@billslatteryjr6558 4 жыл бұрын

Wow! Thank you very much for an honest review of the a9. You may want to tell Chelsea to stop picking up those big lenses by the camera grip. I recently had to have the lens mount replaced on both my D850 and 400mm VR because I accidentally picked my kit up wrong while in a hurry. The giveaway was that for some reason the fine tune had changed radically and Nikon had to replace the mount on both body and lens. And did I just see you put that new Sony 600mm into the case with no rear lens cap on? With those kinds of habits it's no wonder you have those bad sensor dust spots. But not to worry, Roger will fix it all up.

@sadenb 4 жыл бұрын

They should release the Sony A9 R and the A9 Mark II now along with the 500 mm f/4

@jonvar333 4 жыл бұрын

Hi, I'm new to photography. I want a full frame camera, what do you recommend the sony a7iii or the nikon z6, I do not have glasses, I've only had one sony a6300. I want to throw pictures to my son who practices judo and to my daughter who will be born soon, in judo there is never good lighting, thanks for the recommendation.

@bigrod359 4 жыл бұрын

Sony

@fifty_mile_riffle 4 жыл бұрын

you had me at the get-go. if you ever do make it to Montana and don't holler at me my feelings will be hurt. i'm taking you guys down the Madison river. target rich environment.

@jhn011100 4 жыл бұрын

I feel like Canon and Nikon should offer a hybrid viewfinder to offer both a DSLR and mirrorless experience with their next flagship dslrs. Use the OVF in action or dark situations and EVF in other situations.

@TonyAndChelsea 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I've been pushing for this forever. It's feasible!

@ajschot 3 жыл бұрын

just a thought.... if the resolution of the EVF increases.... wouldn't the lag in the EVF increase too?

@JohnPaul-ts8dq 4 жыл бұрын

Does the Sony 600mm have more plastic than the Nikon 600mm?

@lyfandeth 4 жыл бұрын

Zero lag would be an ideal goal but I suspect it would double or quadruple the price of the storage and all electronics. Leading the action and anticipating the shot was, and still is, a skill every photographer won't have. Like manually focusing at a soccer game, or with moving wildlife. Maybe in 15 years the cameras will eliminate lag.

@enrightdigital 4 жыл бұрын

Does anyone make a teleconverter for the Sony 70-300 f/4.5-5.6 G OSS Lens? I want extra reach without having to buy giant glass.

@--.-- Жыл бұрын

damn, you're truly professional.

@TrueToad 4 жыл бұрын

Congrats to Sony! For me, I will hold out for the Nikkor 600mm S lens. Agree with the EVF Lag on current mirrorless cameras is limiting, irritating and is exacerbated when using super telephotos such as 600mm. I tolerate it with my Z7 and Nikkor 600mm only because I know Nikon will deliver a Pro Mirrorless and a 600mm S which will be a major improvement. I am not in a rush to chase other camera brands incremental improvements.

@davidlewis5929 4 жыл бұрын

So is the EVF lag on the A9 worse than the DLSR shutter blackout or this an issue with expectations? I have used many cameras with the blackout and tracking small birds like swallows after about the 3 shots is basically a guessing game.

@8020Alive 4 жыл бұрын

No blackout. Stacked CMOS sensor. World's only. Read up on it.

@TonyAndChelsea 4 жыл бұрын

I *definitely* love the no EVF blackout, but I never had problems tracking moving subjects with DSLRs.

@greatpix 4 жыл бұрын

We can hope that if there will be a Sony A7R Mk IV it will have AF the equal or better than that of the A9.

@brucesterlowden140 4 жыл бұрын

Interesting video and beautifully sharp looking shots... but a touch of unconscious bias in the FPS graph. Canon and Nikon 10 fps score shown below the 10 line on the graph while the Sony 20 fps score matches the 20 line on the graph! (Don't think perspective of image is an excuse either)

@thisis5123 4 жыл бұрын

Yea the bias is always fairly hardcore whenever Sony comes out with something new. Most people wont know better either. Most people wont go out and buy an A9 + 600f4 and a Canon 1DXII +600f4 to compare. But myself and people who I know switched back because the tracking in extreme situations with the A9 was getting distracted by random things. Not to mention they don’t even go over AF settings when mentioning these results. It’s basically a Sony advertisement.

@terrydanks 4 жыл бұрын

Great review. I am a former Canon 600mm f/4L IS user. What I take away from this review is : 1/Sony copied the ergos on the Canon lens right down to the color! 2/ It's a fantastic lens but using it really sucks! :) Bring on the a9II! Oh, BTW, some really nice bird shots!

@nhancao4790 4 жыл бұрын

Canon copied Canon?

@terrydanks 4 жыл бұрын

@@nhancao4790 Whoops. Corrected in edit. Thanks . . .

@AyoolaBoyejo 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks to you and thanks to Sony.

@aussie8114 4 жыл бұрын

$17,000 in Australia 😲 Next please.

@MichaelMa 4 жыл бұрын

I think it's more of an IBIS issue than an EVF lag issue. IBIS will get in the way when tracking with a super tele.

@DmitryRudoy 4 жыл бұрын

First time I hear from Tony what I always thought about EVF - it ruins the experience, it lags, and it's not like looking through optics

@MrStevegibb 4 жыл бұрын

Especially important when you have a super nice lens that can double as a telescope on a DSLR.

@ernreeders1487 4 жыл бұрын

VF image is a tenth of a second behind and that caused you to lose thd bird? I don't think so. The tiny AoV at 1200mm is the problem. Nothing else can track a tern against a busy background? You need to dust off your D500.

@DavidStella 4 жыл бұрын

I would like to see someone test this lens on an APS-C body, like the a6500 or a6400. And maybe even on an A7III.

@jeffmarston8586 4 жыл бұрын

I can't seen to find anything with the newer Sony telephoto lenses and the A7III nor with Sony aps-c cameras either. I would also love to see how the A7III compares to the A9 with the Sony telephotos.

@DavidStella 4 жыл бұрын

jeff marston I have since come to find out that Kai W did his review with a Sony A7III.

@robertbohnaker9898 4 жыл бұрын

Would the lag be less if you were shooting at 600 vs. 1200 mm ? That’s seems like a very extreme shooting situation.

@TonyAndChelsea 4 жыл бұрын

The lag would probably be the same but it wouldn't be so hard to keep a moving subject in the frame because the angle of view would be 2x more.

@gur262 4 жыл бұрын

"you can't necessarily tell if you achieved autofocus"... 1.when times critical and the a9 af is awesome, how does it matter? 2. You can't either with a ovf, else manual focus would work much better than it does

@JS-tc3kt 4 жыл бұрын

Does Sony have a “sports” view like the Fuji XT3? This makes it easier for me to track very fast sports as you can see your subject even before it enters the frame. Hope this is helpful.

@Didaskalos49 4 жыл бұрын

You said two things I wonser about. 1) A9 + Sony 600/4 + TC2 is better (in resolution or speed and ability to focus because the actual aperture is f=8 or what?) than Nikon D850 + Nikkor 600/4 (latest version I hope - E FL lens) + TC2. Nevertheless I will argue for a less optical quality on Nikon's TC2 compared to Sony's TC2 and Canons TC2 as well. 2) You said that A9's 24 Mp sensor isn't enough when using the lens + TC2! I will say that you on the contrary get more blur problems when shooting with such high focus lengths as 1200 mm if you use a 45 or 50 Mp sensor compared to a 24 Mp. As a nature photographer you certainly don't need a high resolution sensor what ever high technology there is in the camera as a whole, the sensor or in the camera computer. And that is if you only look at the resolution and the ability to get pin sharp pics. Not to speak about dynamic range, bit rate maybe and color range. Otherwise a superb information from you, thanks. You are brilliant. Maybe a little too fast talking for a foreigner ... ;-)

@callumbutler2126 4 жыл бұрын

Do the 200-600mm next please ?

@davidGrainger 4 жыл бұрын

What's that on top of your cam on the hotshoe at 0:49?

@davidGrainger 4 жыл бұрын

Is it an Insta360 One X? At first I thought it was some kind of optical viewfinder, or a shotgun mike.

@TonyAndChelsea 4 жыл бұрын

@@davidGrainger Yeah that's it

@Thevikingcam 4 жыл бұрын

If you are looking trough EVF the LAG dont make you fall behind, it dont matter to you if things happen 1 sec later cos time is relative and is observed in lag anyway. The eye lag, light travel, reaction time of the person is the key . Ok ok it is science thingy but true.

@TonyAndChelsea 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah the lag definitely makes you fall behind

@saudi4us 4 жыл бұрын

Great review Tony ... Thanks 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

@DuckMisty 4 жыл бұрын

As a Canon wildlife photographer, I'm wondering how Canon's forthcoming "Pro Mirrorless" offering will compare at these focal lengths.

@thisis5123 4 жыл бұрын

Same I have the canon system and 600L II. Kind upset about the version 3 to be honest. It doesn’t look as good to me image wise.

@Noealz 4 жыл бұрын

did they send that through the mail?

@robertcudlipp3832 4 жыл бұрын

Really, taking a global view of photography, as has been done on numerous occasions on this channel, how relevant are lens in this price bracket?

@aaronharper444 4 жыл бұрын

Gonna have to clear out my kino coffin to haul that around. Maybe I’ll stick to the dead M43 800mm Leica

@J-Sno 4 жыл бұрын

It's Chris from TheCameraStoreTV at 3:20

@kyokuten 4 жыл бұрын

This means Sony has to release an A9II

@Falcrist 4 жыл бұрын

A9ii wishlist so far: More resolution! 40-50Mp probably. Brighter, faster, higher resolution EVF 2× UHS-II SD card slots Slightly faster framerate (24-30fps would be amazing) Improved touchscreen functionality Lossless compression Weather Sealing Global shutter?!

@kalali462 4 жыл бұрын

- 48MP sensor lacking AA filter - ISO invariance - 14bit raw available in all drive modes - lossless raw compression - prerecord buffer of variable duration & frame rate - 50% greater resolution & refresh rate of EVF & monitor - same 20fps or even, with all of these features, 18fps - two XQD card slots employing the greater write speeds - ND filter built in - flash transceiver built in - larger battery for all of this - true weather sealing - sensor shielding during lens changes - three more custom buttons - nearly identical form factor - recessed slider to lock all settings - on/off lever moved away from shutter button & front dial - mode dials whose lock pins can be disabled - Sony's picture profiles including logs and HLG - touchscreen menu - strap anchors that don't jiggle - some focus aid like the EOS R's arrows

@Falcrist 4 жыл бұрын

@@kalali462 The Sony cameras are already ISO invariant except for the gain step at ISO640. You don't want them to get rid of that step, since it would necessarily reduce low light performance. Reduced ramerate is a bad idea. Faster is better. The battery is fine currently. If they can improve the capacity, that's good, but don't make it larger. 2× XQD slots is a hard no from me. UHS-II SD all the way!

@TheElderOne28 4 жыл бұрын

Why am I even here ? I can't even track a bird to keep it in the frame on a 200mm aps-c lens....

@mgsxmike 4 жыл бұрын

Because you love hearing Tony's voice

@octaviomoran8475 4 жыл бұрын

Same, and only have the sony 55-210 🤯

@andrewhillphotosvideos2909 2 жыл бұрын

That pic at 0.50 into the video.. can be done with my Sony RX10 iv no problem... 24 to 600 lens,,, Boom what a camera...............

@user-ym6lc7pk1e 4 жыл бұрын

The title of this video should have been ‘My rant about Sony a9’. I get it that no lens exists without a matching camera and Sony a9 is not an ideal companion for certain situations. But I could rant as much about Canon or Nikon cameras as they also have plenty of very serious drawbacks when it comes to super zooms. Yet, I don’t remember Tony transposing his reviews of Canon or Nikon lease onto the respective cameras.

@TonyAndChelsea 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, anytime a body limits the performance of a lens, we bring it up. We almost always review body + lens as a cohesive system. But this was also the first time that we discovered the problem with EVF lag on the a9; we've reviewed the a9 before and it wasn't a problem because we weren't ever able to shoot with such a narrow angle of view. Would you rather we not mention a potential deal-breaker to buyers of a $13,000 lens?

@user-ym6lc7pk1e 4 жыл бұрын

Tony & Chelsea Northrup No, no - it was a very good thing that you brought up limitations of EVF in A9 for this use case. You just did not have to spend half the time ranting about it. A9 is a great camera and 600mm f/4 is a superb modern lens, that just happened to come up a bit ahead of its time. I wonder if Sony should have kept this lens in a stable until revealing A9Mk2, which would have faster processing and reduced EVF and shutter lag.

@kennethwilliamsinc 4 жыл бұрын

A couple of questions Tony: 1. You said there was a noticeable viewfinder lag when you shot at 1200mm. Did you have the Viewfinder frame rate set to "high"? 2. Which sd card did you use? 3. Were you shooting compressed or uncompressed raw + jpg?

@TonyAndChelsea 4 жыл бұрын

1. Yeah 2. It's tough to say because we each had two different cards and we both had the problem. We've had it in the past, too. It doesn't seem to be dependent on the card, but they're all UHS-II pro cards. 3. Always compressed raw

@kennethwilliamsinc 4 жыл бұрын

Tony & Chelsea Northrup 🤔 I wonder if something is randomly bugging out internally when using two cards. I’ve always used just one slot and have never encountered the indexing issue (A9/A7r3). Thanks for the reply!

@Trigger-xw9gq 4 жыл бұрын

@@TonyAndChelsea Did you format the card in that particular body before shooting?

@stephenmatera9579 4 жыл бұрын

@@TonyAndChelsea I've experienced this card indexing issue in all my Sony a series cameras (a7r3, a73, and a9). I've searched online and not found anyone else discussing it so I'm glad to hear you bring it up. It's definitely a problem but I've not lost any images when it happens, only not able to use the card in camera until I reformat, but all the images are present when I download. But oddly it's become worse over time. I have been using all Lexar 128GB XC II cards and have experienced it on all of them. I was actually beginning to wonder if it was a bug or virus because it only started after using them for a year or more. Until January, I hadn't ever had a problem then suddenly that problem was showing up in all three of my Sony cameras. I've been using the Sony cards for about 2 months now and haven't experienced the issue at all yet.

@chantaljacques7664 4 жыл бұрын

Great review Tony! Very useful information for those on the fence regarding a switch from Canon to Sony.... I will keep my Canon stuff for a little while longer!

@ytr8989 4 жыл бұрын

Oh man, this was an a9 review. I watched it when I got home; earlier I thought this was a lens review.

@TonyAndChelsea 4 жыл бұрын

It's a review of how the lens functions as part of the entire Sony infrastructure. This lens revealed problems with the a9 lag that we had never before experienced, and I'm not going to hide that from people spending $13k.

@ytr8989 4 жыл бұрын

Ok, I get it. I love these lens reviews. Amazing stuff they put out today. 👍

@hemantkharkongor5433 4 жыл бұрын

Evf lag will always be an issue with mirrorless....in OVF however you are catching the action in real time ..basically at the speed of light ...evf will never be able to do the simply because of the physics involved.

@sadenb 4 жыл бұрын

Yes. But the point is not seeing with your eyes, it is to capture the element with tracking speed as fast as possible. If you really want to just view animals and not interested in the camera, buy a binocular instead.