So many r&b albums feature pictures of the singer with that same pose. It's not copying nor stealing, it's just a marketing strategy that many artists used at the time including Luther Vandross, Teddy Pendergrass and Lionel Richie.
@jerrywoodson18564 ай бұрын
And all those albums were spectacular...
@Nimonjeua-Ndiangang4 ай бұрын
Yeah has everything to do with marketing and the era!
@Musicvegan015 ай бұрын
There's several covers with that Scott Baio & Michael Jackson pose, before and after those records. Here's a few of them: Teddy Pendergrass - It's Time For Love / Bunny Sigler - Keep Smilin' / Alice Dona - Vivre / Tino - Por Primera Vez / the inside gatefold of Lionel Richie's 1982 self-titled album / Adamo - Si J'Osais (this one is from the early 1960s)
@stephenjohnson96325 ай бұрын
I read all about it on Bob Loblaw’s Law Blog.
@red.aries14445 ай бұрын
It's a style of portrait photography that was in fashion at a certain time. Together with a similar looking font, which also has to do with fashion, it looks like someone took inspiration from the other. But it's just a tempory style of fashion in photography and graphic design. It's maybe the same with the avocado. There is a whole series of album covers from the classic Naxos Label "(Name of composer) for Meditation" which feature apart from the Name only a highly polished photo of a object from nature like a pine cone, a leaf, feather, chestnut... I see more similarities in the style of the photography to the avocado in the Pearl Jam cover, than between the two avocados.
@Yanks10055 ай бұрын
Lee Greenwood's I.O.U.
@jimmiesmith58115 ай бұрын
It was a guy in the early 80s name Alfonso who even sounded like Michael his cover was almost like triller i think his album came out before triller maybe that's where they got idea for the triller cover
@doloresbriseno25674 ай бұрын
Scott - Looks like one of my 1981 senior high school photos. Hmmmm.
@LarryMarsh5 ай бұрын
Peter Frampton had a cover like Baio and Jackson before they did.
@fumoffuyou5 ай бұрын
I thought the same thing, the "I'm In You" album. But so many of these are likely coincidences, because if you want to show a solo artist on a cover, a "reclining figure" pose is one way that's cliche. The pose has a name because it's literally centuries old and you can commonly find it in paintings.
@doriclogosmg5 ай бұрын
That was the pose. Look at Teddy Pendergrass as well.
@Framos164 ай бұрын
Lionel Richie tpp
@tommylitz45434 ай бұрын
Luther Vandross, too. And Ice Spice is also reclined, -- except doggy style.
@ccculture96814 ай бұрын
Common pose in showbiz.
@thepeterchannel32305 ай бұрын
" Thriller:" -78 million copies and counting. "Scott Baio" : 117 copies . His mom bought 30 of them.
@davestang54544 ай бұрын
They make good coasters for your drinks.
@Tasosjackson4 ай бұрын
😂😂
@jaiyabyrd41774 ай бұрын
And Thriller is still famous 40 years later
@AmySue2804 ай бұрын
😂
@mechajay33585 ай бұрын
Dope video. I'm pretty sure that cover pose was common to do at the time, it's just that MJ's album became a global hit that people began to associate the pose with him.
@mightymikethebear5 ай бұрын
I see very little similarity with the Huey Lewis cover and the other band.
@williamgainford9332Ай бұрын
two album covers with band members in bars - no similarity!!!!!!
@joannemcmillan92015 ай бұрын
On the Michael Jackson/Scott Biao cover. Lionel Richie has one in that pose as well. I actually thought that was who you were going to say to begin with.Richie is also wearing a white suit.
@curtismichael47035 ай бұрын
I was going to say this but first wanted to check the comments to see if others made the connection. I agree, so I’ll just like your post!
@CBail955 ай бұрын
Thanks for the shoutout Frank. Dig this series! I've learned a lot!
@andreamck45214 ай бұрын
The poses of Scott and Michael are really typical body-poses of the 80-ies!! They really are....No kidding! I"m from that era and it looks very familiar to me....👍🏻 Greetings from Germany......🙋🏻♀️
@mortenriisberg5 ай бұрын
Deep Purple's "Burn" album from 1974 is heavily inspired by John Lee Hooker's 1961 album "Burnin'", not only in the fire theme but also the writing of the titles.
@ediblehorse5 ай бұрын
Huh? Please explain.
@mortenriisberg5 ай бұрын
@@ediblehorse What do you mean "explain"? Look it up on Google. The 2 album covers definitely have similarities not only in the title.
@SmokeD-dl2ju5 ай бұрын
Michael cover is better church ❤️❤️❤️🌹😊😅😮😮😮😮
@shortfuseartstudio5 ай бұрын
The Huey Lewis one is a bit of a stretch in my opinion. But some of these others are spot on homage.
@tl11105 ай бұрын
I thought that as well.
@williamgainford9332Ай бұрын
their almost identical - bit of a stretch lol
@allirogorilla5 ай бұрын
These are not ripoffs, tributes, or coincidences at all - as a professional photographer I can state that these are simply "Normal" common poses used by most photographers for this type of photo session. The editors simply chose the photos in a line-up because they looked good and that's all. There is nothing more to it than that.
@davestang54544 ай бұрын
Good point but I would only consider that in the case of a photo, not another type of image, like a drawing, painting, graphic image, etc.
@RC51Legend4 ай бұрын
Or maybe they were taken by the same photographer.
@jayfry-tv5 ай бұрын
Love the channel Frank! You are very good!!! Video/Audio editing - the content - always look forward to your releases! ⚡️⚡️
@Channel33RPM5 ай бұрын
Much appreciated!
@blazingskull655 ай бұрын
Peter frampton im in you predates Scott baio and Jackson
@joannemcmillan92015 ай бұрын
Lionel Richie is the latest one I believe.
@mistertoyou15 ай бұрын
The pose is totally different
@blazingskull655 ай бұрын
@@mistertoyou1 think the concept was in mind.
@LambentOrt5 ай бұрын
That Peter Frampton album cover has always haunted me... what does he mean by "I'm In You"
@blazingskull655 ай бұрын
@@LambentOrt I believe it’s about a bond beyond the physical. Soul mates . Lyrics should be available as well.
@shadowchateau5 ай бұрын
Olivia Newton-John's "Physical"" (1981) and Madonna's "True Blue" (1986), both photographed by Herb Ritts, were similar.
@Akumaten15 ай бұрын
Meh, the Thriller album cover copycat thing is a stretch. because ALOT of albums feature artists posed like that. Before Thriller and After Thriller. It was a common pose for album covers of that time.
@austindolan71825 ай бұрын
i've always thought hardwired looked more like alice in chains' facelift.
@mickschnabel5 ай бұрын
Yep was gonna say the same!
@jables92294 ай бұрын
And facelift looks like that king crimson album
@tomfurgas28445 ай бұрын
Would be interesting to explore album covers that have no graphics on the front cover, just an image. Such as Led Zeppelin's "IV" and "Houses Of The Holy", Bob Dylan's "Blonde On Blonde", The Beatles "Abbey Road", the original "Blind Faith", etc.
@Koffieleuter5 ай бұрын
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@familybettencourt76505 ай бұрын
Hi Frank Love your channel Check out these album covers BILL EVANS - UNDERCURRENT - 1962 GHOSTLY KISSES - HEAVEN, WAIT - 2022 Keep up the great videos
@Epoxinator5 ай бұрын
I think Baio claiming his as the progeniter is silly. It's a look that became popular at the time. Jackson's cover, coming later, is still superior in layout, color and design. I sure that there were other albums even before Baio's that had the same basic blocking and position.
@dandeluxe87314 ай бұрын
You're right about other albums existing. Teddy Pendergrass has an album with the same pose. I think it came out in 1975. Could be wrong about the date though.
@recordholicsanonymous4 ай бұрын
This is freaking awesome! I see this more as on influencing or inspiring the other, and in those cases at the end, they are clearly pointing directly to the other album cover. I think this is all cool however it's done. The Huey Lewis cover and the Dr Feel good cover don't really seem that similar to me. MAYBE a similar "vibe" but definitely not the same. The Lars thing, he could have very well had that experience that gave him the idea, and he could very well have had that other album somewhere in the back of his memory that helped connect the wedding photo to them doing the album that way, and not even be aware that he did that. Either way, while it is the same idea, it is done differently, and that is kind of the way art in general has always been. Art exists because as artists, we all borrow from each other, and get inspired by each other. Sometimes we know we are doing it, sometimes we don't realize it. If something is an exact ripoff, especially if it is the actual music itself, that tends to be cringy, but no matter what, all music as we know it, is inspired by and influenced by some other music. That is actually how it evolves.
@jodywoodruff64735 ай бұрын
Wow that was interesting. I can't wait to see more of these. Awesome video 😊👍
@Channel33RPM5 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed
@TheMovieCheerPodcast5 ай бұрын
Wow, Thriller definitely took some inspiration for the cover. I've never been a huge fan of the Hot Space album, but I do like that cover. Great video Frank.
@AidenSwords-md1do5 ай бұрын
Pat benatar wtde awake in dreamland is quite like anthrax among the living
@jopp37865 ай бұрын
Maybe. However, this is a very common pose for teen magazines in the 80s.
@TheRockinDonkey5 ай бұрын
@@jopp3786 Yeah, I'm sure Jacko stole his cover from Chachi
@theflipside-vinylcommunity5 ай бұрын
This series is so great bro
@Channel33RPM5 ай бұрын
I keep thinking it's over... yet here we are again. Thanks JC!
@TKRVideoCentral5 ай бұрын
Frank - when it comes to Queen's "Hot Space" album, check out 1987's self-titled album by New Monkees - clearly the Hot Space cover was the inspiration, because except for the white borders and the titling its similarity is striking, right down to the why the photos of the band are stylized and positioned...just my two cents, great video as always!
@Channel33RPM5 ай бұрын
I will definitely check that one out. Thanks!
@bltvd5 ай бұрын
@@Channel33RPMit is much better than the what the original Monkees were doing at the time!
@melchiorvonsternberg8445 ай бұрын
I would even go further and cheekily claim that Queen was inspired by the album cover of "Let it be"...
@ihaveinsomnia15 ай бұрын
I never even knew Scott Biao had made an Album.
@PetesCDVinylWorld5 ай бұрын
I think the most obvious VH one is OU812 which copies Meet the Beatles
@Channel33RPM5 ай бұрын
Yes, that's a good one. I mention it in this video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qNaGi5Rozri-oas.html
@ollyhal5 ай бұрын
and the story behind it is funny too: just a reply to David Lee Roth´s "Eat ´em and smile" after the breakup, which reads: "Oh, you ate one too?"
@maryelms59485 ай бұрын
Here's another to check out. The Moody Blues - The Present and Dali's Car - The Waking Hour.
@Channel33RPM5 ай бұрын
Will do!
@JWD19925 ай бұрын
Weird but true: I own the Scott Baio album, but not Thriller. Bob Loblaw!
@davidmitchell68735 ай бұрын
Why would anybody own either of them? Sad.
@graemeking73365 ай бұрын
Yes, you are truly weird 😂
@melchiorvonsternberg8445 ай бұрын
There's nothing strange about that. Jackson is completely overrated anyway and his personality was massively disturbed (no wonder given the family), to put it nicely. And about the other disc... Don't worry about it! Not everyone can have taste...
@chercurry5 ай бұрын
THAT'S BOB LOBLAW FROM THE BOB LOBLAW LAWBLOG??!
@JWD19925 ай бұрын
@@chercurry You, sir, are a mouthful.
@machupikachu10855 ай бұрын
More great content. Keep it up! I thought 'Hardwired' was so terrible that I made my own cover for it. It is an homage to the famous Sally Mann 'Candy Cigarette' photo. Yeah, I had some spare time that day LOL. Cheers!
@thejoojooman65385 ай бұрын
Loving this series.
@Channel33RPM5 ай бұрын
Thank you
@xanxander70495 ай бұрын
Surprised that not included is the late photographer Herb Ritts using his cover photo of Madonna for True Blue as a “tribute” to his own previous photo of Olivia nearly five years earlier on the cover of Physical. (Incidentally, both are the best-selling studio albums of each of their careers, based on worldwide sales - although they each also had a mega selling greatest hits album and/or movie soundtrack that outsold them.)
@briangoldsmith87095 ай бұрын
I know the album covers are different, but this makes me think of Slayer’s live album Live Undead and how, in response, The Undead titled their live album Live Slayer. I always thought that was clever.
@GoonSquadLifeMember5 ай бұрын
"Live Undead"...Jeezus, that takes me back!!
@Figures.Horror.Music.5 ай бұрын
Love how you displayed a few of these albums behind you! I had never seen that Kiss Creatures of The Night album cover.
@Channel33RPM5 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@buckster25754 ай бұрын
With the makeup that was the original cover.
@BioFactory15 ай бұрын
6:15 - These would just be coincidences cos it was a popular 60's - 70's portrait studio style. We as do other people we know have family and multi shot photo styles sone this way.
@jkidd19825 ай бұрын
Even if a million ppl did it before Michael Jackson, I guessing his is the most memorable. 😏
@urmom7774 ай бұрын
Real
@raymondbohn28524 ай бұрын
Check out the final artwork showing Jackson in a red leather jacket. The original photo image has zipper tabs in a different position (open?). We moved the tabs on one of the first SciTex workstations just because we could.
@stenchaholic5 ай бұрын
On the topic of Danzig. LL Cool J’s album cover for Mama Said Knock You Out is the same as Danzig’s Lucifage album cover, both released in 1990, so I’m not sure who was first. I think the LL Cool J album was a few months before. I was probably the only kid who owned both.
@adamkramer89205 ай бұрын
Elvis Presley's first self titled album and The Clash's London Calling. :)
@guitarzan734 ай бұрын
Lady Gagas album cover for "The cherry tree sessions" is a complete rip off of Missing Persons "Spring session M" album cover.
@grahambiggs98225 ай бұрын
Wow Frank, who would of thought that the king of Pop - MJ, would take inspiration from Chachi in happy days. The mind boggles ?? Keep on spinnin !!
@bobdavis48485 ай бұрын
I have both. I'm a big Michael Jackson fan, yet these days I'd rather listen to Scott Baio. I have both his albums. My Michael Jackson fan music store coworker insisted I file the five CDs we had of him under Pop / Rock because he was called "King Of Pop." I protested they won't sell there, but did so anyway. For three months, none of them sold. I moved all five to the Soul section and they all sold within a month.
@urmom7774 ай бұрын
@@bobdavis4848yeah because pop/rock is overwhelmingly white. We all know why it didn't sell there lmao
@bobdavis48484 ай бұрын
@@urmom777 Yes; I'd love to hear you debate my coworker.
@Rob7745 ай бұрын
If I'm in MJ's camp, I may not even be aware that Scotty B even had an album out. I just found out today that he even released music.
@stevencoffin3285 ай бұрын
The Metalica album cover looks more like the cover for Love's Forever Changes
@Luke-12965 ай бұрын
The cover of hot space is very similar to the series of compilation albums ‘flyback’ from fly records in the early 70s featuring compilations of T rex, the move, and procol harum.
@susietorres86004 ай бұрын
There’s always the ubiquitous peacock chair covers.
@dindog225 ай бұрын
as for the Scott Baio/Michael Jackson cover, Peter Frampton struck that pose in the 70's
@davestang54544 ай бұрын
So did Elton John.
@gaillaffer75795 ай бұрын
Dr Feelgood were tipped to be huge in the 70s but for some reason never took off as expected. My Dad used to rave over them and went to many of their early gigs. They are from SE Essex ,UK. There’s a documentary on a tour they did, here on KZfaq.
@ProfessorKenneth2 ай бұрын
Its like this in the comic book industry. I guess that's the way it is in all the arts.
@willowwale20005 ай бұрын
Scott Baio is nuts. Your so-called album cover looks nothing like Michael Jackson's Thriller...you dreaming
@collegeman19885 ай бұрын
Just how many ways can someone pose for an album cover photo?
@magicworld32424 ай бұрын
There are dozens of albums, with pictures "similar" to the Michael Jackson cover. That was the album cover every (wanna be) recording artist was putting out in the 80's.
@twiceonsundays4 ай бұрын
In case anyone doesn't know, the industry uses the same graphic designers and photographers to do promotional materials for many different artists. Plus, every designer and photographer "borrows" hot trends of the current times they are in.
@jasonengberg15834 ай бұрын
On your last entry don’t forget to include the Mother’s of Invention We’re Only In It For The Money
@gieselats5 ай бұрын
Another one. John Lennon & yoko ono - double fantasy. vS Suede - animal nitrate vs depeche mode - question of lust.
@iluvj505 ай бұрын
"Heaven And Hell" and "1984" have angels smoking cigarettes.
@pschiptunes644 ай бұрын
probably one of my favorites and the most direct I've seen is "Glad Music" by R. Stevie Moore (1986) and "A Hard Day's Night" by The Beatles (1964). the cover of Glad Music is a direct pastiche of A Hard Day's Night, and considering just how much influence R. Stevie took from the Beatles... it's no surprise lol
@CookieMusic435 ай бұрын
I always thought Hazel O'Connor's Cover Plus was a rip off of Bowie's Scary Monsters
@dennisneo16085 ай бұрын
You're pushing it!!!
@Channel33RPM5 ай бұрын
😇
@jamesriley722815 ай бұрын
Never thought I'd see Macabre here. Good stuff :)
@tomfurgas28445 ай бұрын
I'd never seen that parody of Sgt. Pepper before. Or is it a parody of The Mothers Of Invention's "We're Only In It For The Money"? A parody of a parody?
@NateB19765 ай бұрын
Yep Macabre is one of the best metal bands of all time. Other bands wish they could play that technical.
@dariusbautista22475 ай бұрын
Jeff Goldlum "hold my beer..."
@adventureawaits36465 ай бұрын
love that Huey Lewis album, bought it way back when it came out in Germany, and incidentally just drove past the 2AM club today on the way home from Mt Tamalpais, fun coincidence, now I wanna check out that club! Too bad it's 1.5 hrs away from my home, clubbing and driving don't mix. But fun trivia!
@jonathanaguero8844 ай бұрын
Please check Physical by Olivia Newton John and the complete picture of Madonna’s True Blue covers. Both pictures were taken by Herb Ritts. And both have the exact same pose.
@gregoryagogo5 ай бұрын
It took a lot of effort to clean those avocado halves!
@jeffthevideoguy235 ай бұрын
James Taylor's Apple album was well before baio.
@7DD9Music5 ай бұрын
Scott Baio and Michael Jackson took it from Roger Voudouris. From the album "She's Too Cold (1981)".
@yusufAA75 ай бұрын
I think that's the way it went back then, most of the pictures were the same back in the '80s
@mitabpraga74875 ай бұрын
Re the Queen & Blur covers, I'd also put Talking Heads' Remain In Light with them. The cover for the single Cross-eyed And Painless, from that album, is also similar.
@fronts31655 ай бұрын
Probably all three. As someone who worked as a graphic artist, I have seen a lot of “serendipity.”
@prettyboy19704 ай бұрын
Nah, that was a common album cover pose in the 70s ,80s and 90s. MJ had no reason to copy friggin Scott Baio. LOL!!!😅😅😂😂😂
@maxpayne73125 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t necessarily call these rip offs, I would say they took inspiration from the original cover and tried to duplicate it
@rodinowright65915 ай бұрын
Nothing weird about it: that standard protocol to sell to the masses.
@sirapos65505 ай бұрын
Exactly, they copy themselves actually.
@user-mp8hi2id2u5 ай бұрын
On the copy of The Doors album cover with Danzig & The Stooges, you could put the The Black Crowes first album too.
@MG-jp5ij5 ай бұрын
Both Scott Baio and John Phillips albums peaked at #181 that is kinda a story in itself.
@chrizmarkdeasis77614 ай бұрын
My favorite album cover of all time would be Linkin Park's Meteora. I don't think that there are any other album similarities on that cover. Unique on its own!
@augmentedhat165 ай бұрын
Frank Zappa and the Mothers did their own “homage” to the Beatles ‘Sgt Peppers” with the album “In it for the money”
@davestang54544 ай бұрын
If an album cover has the faces of the band members on it, the album cover is unique in it's own right and CAN'T be a "rip off". Each person has their own distinctive look and unique face. There really are no 2 human beings who look exactly alike. They would have to use the face of exactly the SAME person found on another album cover to be considered a "rip-off" album cover.
@Lastkingof335 ай бұрын
I'm probably the only one who noticed this one: Aaliyah self titled album and HIM's Razorblade Romance. Came about near the same time.
@carolhart86964 ай бұрын
I'm not an M.J fan. But fair dues. It's a common pose.
@BaldPerspective4 ай бұрын
This was a fun video; loved the last album cover. You mispronounced, "Rammstein," btw
@debbylou57294 ай бұрын
How many poses do you think photographers have?
@andree.b47235 ай бұрын
You forgot Frank Zappa and the Mothers," we're only in it for the money" that was a great parody of Sgt Pepper.
@tallguy8105 ай бұрын
Frank Zappa and the Mothers also did a parody of the Sgt. Pepper album cover with the cover of We're Only In It For The Money.
@jaydensvhsarchive3.0955 ай бұрын
Another parody I have accountered is the Residents first album which parody’s the Beatles meat the Beatles album
@MrBdiddypop5 ай бұрын
Scott Bao taking credit for one of the best albums of all time.
@Wilboe664 ай бұрын
The jokes write themselves. 😂
@MrBdiddypop4 ай бұрын
@@Wilboe66 out of morbid curiosity, I looked up Bao in Apple Music. Good god, it was horrid. Back then they didn’t have auto tune and he’s off key a lot. It’s obvious they mixed the music to play louder than his vocals to try to cover for his singing. I’d rather listen to Corey Feldman than this and that’s saying a lot.
@Wilboe664 ай бұрын
@@MrBdiddypop oh my oh my , you’re a really brave soul for going down that rabbit hole. I would sue Bao for a free month of that online therapy service (BetterHelp). I’ll testify in court on your behalf. 😉
@seabreeze92968 күн бұрын
Those of us who love Disco music know that Lipps, inc - "Pucker Up" cover looks identical to "Chanson" by Chanson
@rofilquijanobello11104 ай бұрын
Bjork’s debut album cover and britney spears’ baby one more time. 😂😂😂
@loweffortproductions19855 ай бұрын
A lesser known one that kind of pops out to me is how "Lover's End" by Moon Safari looks a little like Rio by Duran Duran. Although, that one's a bit more of a stretch imo.
I thought the same thing. Then again, I pay little attention to album covers, though I used to as a young-blood (Maiden's Powerslave). It was fun then, but the ubiquity of streaming/downloads made album art almost irrelevant.
@JoeOrber5 ай бұрын
The cover style used in those three albums by the doors, Danzig and the stooges was also a little bit (not completely) present in Queen’s Queen II 😅
@kirklarson13165 ай бұрын
Also, I read pearl jam claimed the 🥑 album was simply "pop art" probably not dissimilar to the velvet underground and nico banana album.
@Ernasto4 ай бұрын
Redman: Dare Iz a Darkside homaged Funkadelic: Maggot Brain
@Riazor13705 ай бұрын
The four faced image of queen first seen in Bohemian Rhapsody videos and its singles cover (with dark background) was also almost similar to the Beates album cover "With The Beatles".
@davidnetterwald18465 ай бұрын
I don’t know what is more shocking to me the fact that the album cover for Thriller one of the most iconic albums and album covers of all time was not an original design or the fact that Scott Baio actually made an album. I’m going to go with option B.
@Channel33RPM5 ай бұрын
Ha! I still need to hear Scott Baio's album. I'm going to be on the lookout for it.
@tyrone42ful5 ай бұрын
That was just THE POSE much like the duck lips
@firouz2564 ай бұрын
Madonna repeated the pose on the cover of her iconic bestselling "True Blue" from Olivia Newton John's "Physical" album! Its photographer Herb Ritts recycled the same pose!
@juancarlosgonzalezmartinez87935 ай бұрын
About the Metallica/Crowbar album cover, I think you could have put "The Miracle" (Queen) album cover too.
@metaprecise89355 ай бұрын
Good video. What about The Mothers of Invention and their, We're Only In It For The Money album. It's a parody of the Sgt Peppers cover also.
@robpierce47125 ай бұрын
Lordi didn't try to disguise the fact that they were copying the KISS album style. Even the font for the titles is identical on both albums.
@Channel33RPM5 ай бұрын
A most definite tribute, as were all those last few.
@Hecatecrossways4 ай бұрын
Manowar has at least 3 album covers that look like KISS - Destroyer. Venom - Black Metal is the exact duplicate ( but a close up shot) of the Baphomet drawing featured on the album cover of Witchfynde - Give Em Hell.
@sovietonion725 ай бұрын
Theres no way Hueys cover looks anything like that other one, not even close.