When I first watched Cam’s storyline I thought it was genius that they made Maya angry at him. It was raw and real and didn’t romanticize any aspect of suicide.

I think an important thing Degrassi did with Cam's storyline is that he wasn't the bullied/outcast kid bc that tends to be the go to when it comes to stories where a character commits suicide. Not to downplay the effect bullying can have, but it showed that anyone can struggle with the kind of mental health issues that can lead to suicide or just thoughts of it. Also the handling of the aftermath of the suicide is one of the best I've seen, as we continued to see how it effects those most closely impacted by it, Zig and Dallas both putting blame on themselves for different reasons, the way it impacted Maya, her mental health and some of her relationships in later seasons, like her one with Miles (it even greatly impacted stuff for her in New Class, which was years after the suicide), and Eli, who didn't even know Cam but was the one to find him and his realization that if he hadn't gotten the help he needed the year prior that that could have very easily and likely been him.

Tyler’s assault scene is still, to this day, one of the most disturbing, horrendous and exploitative ones I’ve ever watched on screen. There was absolutely no need to show it to that degree to ‘get the message across’.

Don't forget that Degrassi also held a live discussion after the episode aired to give resources and talk through what happened. I think it may have been shown during the american airing too (can't remember since it was so long ago now), but it was hosted on the Canadian channel Much Music. The writing on Degrassi was cheesy sometimes, but you gotta love how the writers/directors/producers tried to handle stories in a responsible matter

One thing I appreciated with Cam is that it never stopped discussing the impact that suicide had on other characters. Eli is disturbed by finding Cam's body and starts up a recreational drug habit which ultimately exacerbates his mental health issues and leads to a break up with Clare. Dallas blames himself and ultimately contemplates suicide while drunk due to his guilt. Zig also deals with his guilt over what he said to Cam, blaming himself and feeling like he was the cause. He ultimately decides to be a good friend to support Maya. Maya. Maya has the most in depth reaction to Cam death, that lasts for seasons. She first tries to avoid her feelings, acts provocatively and rash (for her character) and ultimately breaks down saying she doesn't want to think or feel what Cam did. She describes that she hates him for "breaking up with me by killing himself", and that she doesn't want to miss him anymore. In late seasons she struggles with her love life and eventually develops mental health issues that are shown to spring from her trauma. She has nightmares about her ex Miles acting in ways similar to Cam and fears he might be the same. She eventually develops depression. The show's handling of Maya's depression is brilliant. She pushes people away through her behavior and laments about how she feels she cannot do anything right. When her mother questions her and says she's worried Maya responds that the old Maya is gone and she "can't find her anymore". She describes her depression not as sad but as numb. But the best thing I think the show ever did was show how she acted after she made the plan to commit suicide. She was joyful. She apologized to her friends and family. Made heartfelt gifts, and had a fun slumber party with her Mom and Sister. This was so deeply accurate to how mental health professionals depict people acting after they've made their choice. The relief of deciding resulted in an upturn that people assumed was "her getting better" but she ultimately attempted. And all of this, is related back in the show to her mental health and trauma issues that began with Cam. It is realistic and brilliant and I just had to rant about it.

Yep, 13 Reasons why is trash. Cam’s storyline is one of the best story arcs in Degrassi. Even 80s Degrassi High handled suicide better than 13 Reasons Why.

Yea because degrassi would never try and mentally scare me the way 13 reasons did...Degrassi opened the door for a healthy conversation to be had ,where 13 reasons just unlocked people's trauma

degrassi was way ahead of its time. watching it as a pre-teen definitely shaped my world views and kept me aware of bad life choices. it's iconic and can't be replicated

Degrassi did something that 13 Reasons why didn’t. Degrassi never showed the actually act of Cam killing himself but you still felt the pain that Cam felt. He was such a loved character and as Stefan Brogan said “it’s so hard to see a character try and try and still lose”. Cam was an unexpected death if you didn’t watch the show super closely but after they had the proper response and showed everyones’ point of view. 13RW didn’t do that, they had a blame put on people while Degrassi didn’t and they also didn’t give a triggering scene to get the same reaction

The reason why Degrassi is one of my favorite shows is because they discuss teenage issues without shock value. The episode about Cam demonstrates that you don't have to be graphic and still have an important episode done right.

I think something to remember is that Cam's death wasn't Degrassi's first suicide. In Degrassi High (the 1989 series), Claude committed suicide in the school bathroom. Throughout the season, he is an outcast, is taunted, and when he tried to reach out to his friends/ex girlfriend, he's ignored. His depression and downward spiral is shown and he does *technically* plan his suicide. Claude buys a gun, brings it to school, and then goes into a bathroom stall. He's found by Snake, a guy who didn't necessarily bully him, but actively stood by. The following episodes of the season, and the rest of the series tbh, shows the affects his death had on the school. When it aired, it was definitely shocking. It's considered one of the first on screen suicides on prime tv and it was a minor. You knew the method, you saw his body. Even though was saw the build up to the episode, literally no one expected that. It was almost unheard of. Even with those same factors as 13 Reasons Why, Degrassi still took the subject of suicide, during the 80s no less, and was careful with it. It wasn't some revenge plot. Claude had mental issues and it was actively shown throughout his story. They showed how some students vocally blamed Claude for his own death. They showed how some people defended him. It was a nuanced topic and the creators knew that. The affects of his suicide carried on until Snake, Principal Simpson by the end of Degrassi: Next Class, left the series. Snake was originally a pretty upbeat, although passive, guy until he found Claude. And his mentality was hurt by it. This isn't even including the shooting of Jimmy and the death of Rick during Degrassi: TNG. Both of who are shown being shot. Rick's mentality is shown all throughout his story, as well as his bullying, and again, no one saw his last episode coming. But the show was done so well, with crafted care, that other shows copied it (One Tree Hill) within a year, to continue raising awareness. How could a show like 13 Reasons Why have multiple blueprints at their hands, been given professional advice from multiple sources, and still get it wrong? Money.

I loved Cam so much, he really suffered in silence

Degrassi is a great show that depicts real things that happened to real teens. There are so many tough subjects that Degrassi brings awareness to and they mostly do it right. Campbell's story is so heartbreaking, but it's a great representation of suicide. When "13 Reasons Why" came out, Degrassi actress Aislinn Paul, who plays Claire Edwards, slammed 13RW and there horrible depiction of suicide.

another brilliant element of cam's storyline is how it lead into maya's for literally the rest of the show. it's so subtle how they built it up but they show the lasting trauma that situation has on people left behind. literally my favorite degrassi storylines are cam's and then maya's afterwards they were SO well done.

Degrassi will always be my #1 show when it comes to truly capturing pre-teen and high school years in an authentic manner. I was hooked since Season 1 of The Next Generation. R.I.P Jahmil French♥

The thing is, when Degrassi had everyone dealing with Cam's death, they even had it pointed out that it was no ones fault that he did what he did. Zig was feeling awful about it and acting out because he blamed himself for telling Cam to stay away from Maya. It's the teacher who said that anyone could've set him off. Degrassi also acknowledged and showed us how unhappy Cam was and how he truly didn't want to be and how he couldn't comprehend WHY he was. I also loved everyone's reactions to his death, especially Maya's. It felt real for her to be angry, She was a young teen and this was her first ever romantic relationship. It wasn't supposed to end this way. Even later down the line, we see how it still affects her. See how she wants to protect Zig or her reactions to Miles' behavior. 13 Reasons Why was also extremely graphic with Tyler's assault compared to what happened to Darcy or Paige. Those, you didn't really SEE what happened. We saw Darcy be led into a room or Paige be pushed into the pillow and hear her trying to get Dean to stop.

The one thing 13 reasons why touched on that happens in too many schools is the guidance counselors always thinking kids are seeking attention. That happens all the time and since the show was so controversial for other things no one noticed it

Cam’s suicide hit hard but what effected me more was Maya’s storyline soon after when she breaks down.

I couldn’t agree more with this analysis! Cams story was so heartbreaking for me as a young teen and comparing it to 13 reasons why while also an okay show it just didn’t get to me as much as Cams did.

13 Reasons why is a dangerous example of style over substance that has emerged over the last decade with the increasing popularity of taking YA content and making them into t.v. shows and movies.

Degrassi is the best teen show because it is for teens. It's not adults in their late 20's playing 15 year olds, most if not all actors are close to their ages in the show. There's a million details in Degrassi that keep to the realism, while also being an entertaining drama. The use of A, B, and C plots shows what everyone is doing, and some A plots are very dramatic, while the C plot will be funny and non consequential, except in instances like the Cam plot where there is no room to put a light heartedness. The whole school doesn't care about the dramatic A plot of a break up or whatever, but this plot line would reach everyone. Degrassi is just so real, and it doesn't sugar coat things, but also doesn't dramatize things to the point of being unrealistic. And as a teenager that was developing bipolar depression and watching degrassi, it really honestly helped to see this show. Eli especially, since he has a plethora of issues from bipolar depression to OCD and hoarding, but at the end of the day he does learn healthy coping mechanisms and lives a happier life. Given all the pain he went through, I've never seen a show give a character with this much baggage a slow, gradual happy ending. And then Craig, who relapses several times into destructive behavior, and he does see real consquences for it, but also he has a support system that stands by his side while also being conflicted on what would be best for him. I wish netflix renewed it for another season, because I was really relating to Esme songs character, and how the typical 'mean girl' ended up having horrible mental illness and trauma, and her actions were a cry for help. The way the show was unafraid to depict mental illness is such a rare and unique way really moved me. Esme did horrible things and would easily been written off as a psychopath, but built into a complex deep character was so fresh. She truly was never black and white, and I've never seen a show humanize such a flawed character without just erasing her malicous behaviors when they decided they wanted her to be liked. God, this series man. I wish it were still going on, I want my neices and nephews to be able to watch it with issues that effect them currently

I also love how even tho we never get much of a Cameron mention after his suicide, he still has an impact on the characters waaaay past season 12, specially for Maya. Whereas on 13rw, having "Hannah's spirit" roaming around Clay after her death is incredibly outputting and bizarre. Even if it's technically his imagination.

As a fan of the original Degrassi Jr High/ Degrassi High I am in love with the fact that Principal Simpson witnessed the aftermath of a fellow classmate taking his own life and was able to use that to bond with Eli who found Cam. Elite connection ❤

The stuff that happened in degrassi is stuff that happened to either me, my friends, or our hs/peers. It’s very realistic subjects but degrassi handles things very delicately. Even the cheesiness I can appreciate because it softens what could be extremely triggering topics. 13 reasons why was none of that and they sacrificed any realism for unnecessary shock. Rewatching degrassi after hs was nice because i was able to reflect and process stuff that happened in hs. Especially cams storyline.

The fact that they didn’t say how cam did it or show how he did it is a big difference on how 13 reasons why and degrassi handled it. I haven’t watched everything yet but I assume you’ll get to it, but it’s just that, it would cause more suicidal ideation seeing an actual suicide and it bewilders me as to why the people behind 13 reasons why would actually show a fucking suicide so graphic. Basically, degrassi did a better storyline overall and I’ll stop my was from explaining why because I know you’re about to do so.

Degrassi was always ahead of its time. One of the many reasons why I love it and will rewatch it. It shaped me into who I am today. It also brought a lot of topics up that I didn’t know too much about because I was so young but made me so opened minded of people. A super side note but I fell in love with cam too. I remember crying.

i always cry when watching cam's episodes :'( it's still so heartbreaking to this day. not to mention the degrassi next class suicide storyline with maya herself. cam's suicide continued to affect her for years after but she doesn't blame herself / cam never put the blame on her which is a lot more than 13RW can say.

Degrassi walked so shows like these could run

I remember knowing Cam committed suicide before I watched his arc and it didn't stop me from absolutely falling in love with him. It was so heartbreaking.

Something that struck me about Degrassi's storyline (and this is something I think only one would pick up if they'd watched OG Degrassi) was that Simpson is consoling the students, especially Eli and Maya (please correct me if I'm wrong, I've watched only bits and pieces); Simpson had found Claude (character from OG Degrassi) after he'd killed himself in the boys bathroom, and I thought it was fitting (even if not intended) that Simpson knew what Eli was goin through, had seen how Raditch has handled the situation with Claude's death, and I'm sure wanted to make sure that all of Degrassi had been not only taken care of, but made sure that they had the proper resources

I remember a couple of Degrassi's former actors tweets with criticism of 13 reasons why going "viral" where Degrasssi thrived was their use of nuance, you didn't have to watch a rape scene to KNOW that a character got raped

Proud to be Canadian!! Degrassi has been one of the most popular shows since the 80s

I hate to think what would have happened if he didn’t. Maya and cam were such a cute couple and there was sweet innocent lover between them vs the confusing love triangle with zig and miles. Also the effect of his suicide is so long lasting the degrassi next class it’s obvious dying Maya’s attempt that even years after when everything seemed to have passed, it still had some kind of effect. I just hate how they killed him off because they were so happy that night and then he was just gone. I felt like it wasn’t a good enough goodbye to someone who meant so much to the season

Degrassi itself has some faults, but it’s a great series of shows in general. I had to bail around season 9 or 10 of degrassi. It just got less interesting to me and grounded.

Agreed. 100%. I also thought that they did Maya's suicide attempt in the Next Class well. Overall I didn't like the Next Class, but her character and story line were great. They had so many risk factors in there, like how she had lost someone (Cam) to suicide, how she went through trauma (the bus crash), and how she had a family history of mental illness (Katie's ED and drug addiction). They also showed her seeing a therapist and attempting to get help.

I’ll never understand how amazing season 12 of degrassi is and then season 13 and 14 were horrible.

degrassi is the best high school show of all time. eli’s character made me feel so seen as a bipolar teen, it still does.

I think the difference is that Degrassi was a teen show that had a suicidal character. Meanwhile, 13 reasons why was a show based around one's suicide. But I agree, it's so graphic and unnecessary. When I saw the unedited version, I literally had a panic attack and couldn't sleep that night.

I love this! Thank you so much. I have been looking around for another take on Campbells suicide storyline, just to see how other people felt about it and how it was received. This was a really well thought-out video.

I remember rewatching season 12 over and over and over again because i was super suicidal and not in control of my emotions at the time so it gave me some weird sad comfort but also reminding me that i should stay here. I will forever love Cam. I do wish they would’ve at least had him for one whole season until the next one so we could’ve learned even more about him but regardless with the small amount (in my opinion) of screen time he had he was able to squeeze himself easily into my top favorite characters on degrassi.

degrassi actually had a psychologist on set advising on cams storyline and they said yup showing cam actually committing suicide or saying how he did it was not a good idea cams storyline was honestly done very well

Also, unlike most teen dramas, Degrassi producers casts teenagers to play teenagers, they do stories that teenagers can actually relate to

I’ve been wanting to read the book! But this video showed up in my feed and I didn’t even know I needed this in my life. But I agree. Degrassi handled SO MANY THINGS SO MUCH BETTER.

I'm so glad to hear someone else say that it didn't need to continue after season one. I felt like it was done after season one

you can't even compare these shows at all, degrassi was made to help teens and 13 reasons why was made for drama

Couldn’t have explained it any better 👏🏼

I would of liked to see more of a comparison to how rape was portayed e.g darcy and paige v Jessica and hannah

i struggle with suicidal thoughts and personally 13 reasons why was what helped me realize how many people would actually care and what I would leave behind

Degrassi was the best show I’ve ever watched! It helped me a lot and showed things that happen to teens in real life like suicide (like Cam’s suicide attempt and Maya’s suicide attempt, abuse (like Alli was abused by Leo), or gun violence (when Jimmy was shot)

I haven't watched 13 RW since the first season. Never finished the series and never plan to

THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO!! It is amazing to me how 13 Reasons Why can have a whole freaking show about said suicide and fumble the ball whereas Degrassi always has multiple character plots in each episode and nailed Cam's suicide storyline throughout his time of the show. As someone who has made multiple suicide attempts and deals with anxiety, depression & PTSD, Cam's story is MUCH more impactful. It's the scattering of little things that you wouldn't notice unless you were in Cam's shoes 1) Rage is a common side effect of depression (beating up Zig, kicking the desk in the room Alli's in, etc) 2) Him admitting to Maya and Alli that he's sad which is a huge step but not getting the response/answer you need 3) Trying to 'solve' your sadness by getting rid of what you think is making you sad (drinking milk to stop hockey, breaking arm, etc) but then having the harsh reality that it's not the things around you; it is YOU 4) Being tearful is also a common side effect of anxiety and depression (Cam in the girls bathroom, locker room, etc) I could go on and on, but bravo to Degrassi and a big fart noise to 13 Reasons Why!

Brilliant video. Cam's storyline was really well thought through accompanied by amazing acting. Dallas' reaction was oscar worthy.

I love Degrassi, I watched it at a young age and taught me so much and I loved it because I could relate to the characters it will forever be one of my favorite show's

this was an amazing video, glad to see someone who loves degrassi as much as a i did, i loved cam so much as a character

I love this video essay, I love your pacing in speaking, I love your jokes and references, I love your ethos, I'm obsessed

13 reasons why annoyed me so much. They really romanticized suicide. I dont know how else to explain it. Especially in season 2 when Clay kept having visions of her as if it was possible to still be around. It's not. When you kill yourself, you're dead. You don't get to tell your loved ones you love them anymore.

I absolutely understand the discourse around Hannah's suicide scene. For me, it was important because it showed how agonizing, lonely, and flat out graphic suicide is. And how a parent's true pain when they find their child. I lost someone to suicide in high school whose parents found him. I have also struggled with suicidal thoughts/ideation for most of my life. I do think however, Netflix did suicide a disservice in the aftermath. They didn't do right by Hannah's character and made it more about Clay. I also think they should've had a warning before the episode and before the scene if they were going to put it out there. Degrassi handled Cam's suicide well too, but again, made it about Maya. Not Cam that much or his family who was far away. Then they put Maya and Zig together. Anyway, no one is going to do all of the right things. I appreciate both shows.

When you said Degrassi was your favorite I was like "I can relate" because it used to be my favorite show. Then when you said it wasn't up there with Westworld I was like "omg!!!" because that IS my favorite show. Lol

When my friend committed suicide, I was so angry at her. I hated her for a while cause I was in pain and felt guilty cause I thought I could've done more and it was easier to be angry. So I do the depiction of Maya after Cam died cause it's very relatable.

love analysis videos like these

When i first watched Degrassi i would read the comments of each episode and got spoilers that Cam would die. When I watched the actual episode when Cam died it hit me extremely hard. I knew it was going to happen but actually seeing that cam do it and what it did to others was extremely hard for me. I was twelve when i watched it and although it taught me a lot about suicide, it was very heartbreaking for me. Cam’s death was unexpected and realistic and that’s what made it so sad.

Degrassi ran so 13 Reasons Why could trip

13 Reasons Why was a good book at the time, but at the time I read it, Go Ask Alice was the closest in genre that I had access to at my school. Now, there are much better options for kids in school to read about this type of subject matter.

Oooh I’m so excited to watch this

Degrassi is just on another level with realism

Goldi from Degrassi next class said “one suicide can lead to another” and 13RW led to a spike in suicides pretty much predicting the affect the show would have on teens.

Degrassi first depicted Suicide in it’s previous incarnation “Degrassi High” back in 1991.

Can you imagine if Hannah showed signs of severe depression? Like not leaving bed or showering and not leaving bed

It is such a relief to hear someone else mention that they had to look away during Hannah's suicide scene. I am a lover of horror movies and gore doesn't turn my stomach. Yet when I saw the scene in question (by accident while watching a compilation scene on KZfaq), it made me physically ill. For months after seeing it, I would have nightmares about it and I avoided watching videos on KZfaq out of fear that I would see it again. It was definitely way too much and after finding out that Hannah uses a different method in the book, it made me wonder if the writers and creators weren't just going for shock factor.

Cams story helped me to realize I had depression, i was so sad when he passed away

This is so good!!!!! Subscribed!!!

I am so glad that I gave up on 13 Reasons Why after like 6 episodes, because as someone who has struggled with depression/suicidal thoughts for a decade, if I had seen that graphic suicide scene with no warning it would have seriously fucked me up

I didn't mind 13 Reasons Why but it didn't get to me as much as Cam's storyline did, especially how it affected Maya and her suicide attempt. Degrassi did an amazing job, I respect the hell out of Dylan Everett and Olivia for their portrayal. Katherine was amazing, but the writers could have done a better job.

I remember reading 13 Reasons Why in Health class in high school.

During the early 90s, Degrassi High also had a suicide episode. It was made to raise awareness for suicide much like a lot of the other episodes which raised awareness for things such as AIDS. However, this episode made a lot of the same mistakes that 13 Reasons Why did. In the same vain though it did have a lot of the same elements as Cams storyline. Degrassi: The Next Generation/Degrassi calls back to this episode when they discuss the effects that Cams suicide had on Eli as Snake/Principal Simson had gone through that exact same thing in Degrassi Highs suicide episode. I don’t have much more to say on the topic but I thought I should share my knowledge about Degrassis history of suicide episodes.

I remember when it came out and my friends all watched it while I avoided it on purpose after being a survivor of an attempt by not planing it through enough and failing. I watched it with a friend later on after she offered me comfort and according to her Hannas su/cide made be shiver. Long story short I hated how suicide was presented and how it almost seemed like it was shown to be this act that clears you off your sins and passes it on to others even not to mention all 13 offenses being treated on the same level. The presentation of suicide was just sick

This is such a great video! 👏👏

great video although to me at least the degrassi suicide that feels most similar to hannahs at least in my opinion is claudes back in degrassi high. both suicides come off as revenge suicide or suicides with the intent to hurt the most people ie. hannahs tapes and claude doing it at school and sending caitlyn roses and a note saying he forgives her which comes off as guilt trippy

Stopped watching 13 reasons like 5 episodes in. But currently bingeing Degrassi on KZfaq and it's just overall better at representing everything

I really like the repercussions with Maya about Cams death, the anxiety and depression and even the situation with Miles it makes perfect sense i think Degrassi did all this in the best way possible

That book was actually really good

OMG, THANK GOD SOMEONE FINALLY MADE THIS VIDEO AND I AM ACTUALLY WATCHING IT RN BECAUSE I JUST CAN'T STAND 13RW I-

Not me sitting here crying over Cam's death. This was a great video. :) I also stopped watching 13 Reasons Why after the first season. It was clear that the story seemed more focused on shock value than properly telling the narrative. I love Degrassi. I'm in the midst of rewatching it now. It truly was ahead of its time and is a real treasure.

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I wholeheartedly agree that Netflix was after shock value and I agree that Hannah's scene was GRAPHIC (I'm not squeamish but that got to me as well) but there is one detail that I think you're a little off on. After Hannah makes the first 12 tapes she feels better and changes her mind saying she's going to give life one more chance then tried to seek help from the guidance counselor about her assault, it's only after the counselor basically victim blames her that she changes her mind and goes home and does the deed. Just saying, to me at least, it seemed like the incident with the counselor was the catalyst similar to things going well for cam and then zig making him snap. I hope I'm making sense, I did enjoy your video amd agree with your points otherwise, that's just my two cents on it.

THANK YOU! OHHH I LOVE THIS VIDEO. THIS IS IMPORTANT

Thank you for this video.

i feel like after i rewatched the show from the first time i did, like andrea said, other than bryce and justins second tape (which also included bryce so imma just say bryce overall) the rest of the reasons were just something like 'cry a few days, now im okay'. Losing friends, rumors spreading its all a phase, and sure as a teen it feels like such an impact but other than the rape nothing else should have been a reason. i, personally am a suicidal individual (well ex idek how to explain but i had attempted and almost went into the light but got saved) and it was due to the fact that a really close friend who was my rock, passed away so suddenly that it really destroyed me and i was like 15 at the time. So when i rewatched the show, sorry to say so, but hannahs other reasons were kinda stupid to me, because if they werent then, i should think since education started the whole human population should have killed themselves. I too degrassi is an all time favourite and Cams story line really made sense, the burden of having no one to talk and no one who is around to understand and pretending to be happy for everyone else is what i felt. if anything Hannah could have a lil big scream meltdown and moved on in life and again for eternity i say, she is the reason for the fuck up Clay is in season 4, she mentally destroyed him with anxiety thinking he was a reason and how the other characters changed forever just because she was petty.

I love degrassi and every time I watch that episode I cry 😭😭 it’s so sad especially every episode leading up to it

Degrassi also had a great s*icide storyline in degrassi high where a character is rejected by his ex gf and he shows some signs but it wasn't obvious or over a long period of time. It was like he acted out and the next day shot himself in the bathroom. I think that's also an interesting storyline

The 80's Degrassi they had a suicide arch but it was not handled well I think that's why they recreated one in the later season. Degrassi sometimes showed a very extreme version of mental health while 13 reasons why felt like it was exploiting it .

Degrassi also puts in the effort to make a character more then just a label You feel for the character 13 Reasons is a short release format and based on a book so they had to follow the basic plot but it also glorified what happened

I think the suicide depiction was a necessary shock value. Suicide is not pretty, it’s not glamorous it’s not fun. It’s finite, it’s the end. I think Romeo and Juliet did more damage to the depictions of suicide than 13RW. I do not believe showing suicide in that graphic a detail, would encourage suicide in the same way that a graphic murder would encourage murder for that matter. However, I do believe the show DID do a great job of explaining the hopelessness that one may feel in a system where people are apathy to problems that teenagers are going through. We’re supposed to have visceral reaction to her suicide, because she was failed, by everyone she sought help from.

Degrassi: The Next Next Generation coming 2025.

The first two seasons of “13 reasons why” , were great because it showed not the after affects of suicides but it also showed the many perspectives of the people who hurt Hannah . However, seasons 3 & 4 were completely trash !! . They tried to make it a murder mystery and make a evil character ( Bryce walker) seem forgivable.

I can never forget that season two scene with Tyler. It literally haunts me to this day. I really had a hard time finishing the series after that.

I just felt like Cams storyline went way too fast, it just made it seem so dramatic

I had to fast forwarded Hannah's suicide scene when I watched it.

Catcher in the Rye, The Perks of Being a Wallflower and Speak are the quintessential contemporary YA’s, in my opinion.

Degrassi is my favourite show I love it and they delt with Cam's stroyline so well they didn't romancised it (like 13RW) They were careful and wanted to show how it affected people like Maya (who deserved better than the hate she gets she's 14 guys), Dallas, Zig, even Alli, Tori, Tristan and Eli who found the body