Hope you guys enjoy this one! I also wanted to let you know that this will be my last pre-Scarlet and Violet video, and I will begin covering the games with my next upload on Saturday!! There's gonna be so much exciting stuff to talk about, so I hope you'll tune in over the next few weeks for lots of awesome videos! :) I will also be giving out spoiler warnings where appropriate, so you won't have to worry about getting spoiled while watching my content either! So I'll see you then, and I hope everyone has an amazing time with the games when they pick them up! :)

Technically, the first regional variant we ever encounter is Exeggutor, since they were originally native to Alola and imported to Kanto

The animal that Corphish and Crawdaunt are based on ( Red Swamp Crayfish) naturally lives in the Southern United States and Northern Mexico. So, if we ever get a region based on either of those areas than that would be the perfect opportunity to give us the original forms of Corphish and Crawdaunt.

I'm really surprised you didn't talk about the ancient dragon that split off into Reshiram, Zekrom and Kyurem.

About Corphish: Being originated from another regions doesn't always mean there's a regional variant in place from the get-go. They're definitely invasive species, like Yungoos, but there's no way to indicate if Corphish itself has a different form based on their native region. We've had this happen before, where a certain Pokemon is obtained through rare means in a given region and then we discover they're endemic to another one and can be found in the wild, like Lapras, Kangaskhan, Tauros, etc. This is most likely the case for the base Corphish. Crawdaunt could be the regional variant judging from this. Kind of like an Alolan Marowak situation, where Cubone doesn't change but the evolution suits the new region. Of course, we've got yet to see what it comes out of it if anything.

The funny thing is that there is actually a slug Pokémon that used to have a shell in ancient times. It’s just that it’s not Gastrodon; it’s Sliggo and Goodra. Makes you wonder if there are any connections between the two lines.

I think Poipole's dex entry is referring to the Ultra Recon Squad choosing it as a partner. It's mentioned throughout the game that Pokémon battling isn't a thing in their world, which is why they needed outside help subduing Necrozma.

With the introduction of paradox Pokemon, I'd love to see paradox forms for genesect. A past form, showing what genesect was originally, and a future form where it's become fully synthetic would be really cool!

It would really cool to see some of these incorporated into a potential Scarlet/Violet DLC. The original Magikarp/Dreepy/Genesect forms in Scarlet, and the successful future evolution, de-corruption and curing of Magnezone/Porygon-Z/Parasect respectively.

The interesting thing about Magnezone is in Legends Arceus, it's the only one of its line that spawns outside the distortions. This can lead one to believe that Magnemite and Magneton are a side effect of the existence of Magnezone and environmental changes. It also means evolving it could theoretically be possible BECAUSE it originally didn't evolve from the Pokemon they do now.

One other interesting form (if it counts as one) that has been mentioned in the Pokedex is 3 headed Weezing. "Though very rare, triplets have been found" according to multiple of its dex entries. That'd be cool to see.

Dunno if it’s been mentioned already but the Magikarp entry makes me think of the alpha Magikarp in PLA, because it is far stronger than regular Karp, but still easy to deal with. Thus only being slightly stronger.

If you take lore inspiration into account , there should be a kind-hearted dragon type Gyarados.

For the next video, you should include the "Original Dragon," which is the mix of Kyurem, Zekrom, and Reshiram

Sizzlipede's and Skorupi's ancient ancestor could be Anorith and Armaldo! Anorith looks somewhat close to your interpretation of the ancestor's first stage.

I kind of hope Scarlet and Violet explore this type of stuff in DLC given what we have seen so far in game thanks to Scarlet with a few select Pokémon.

I love the theory that all of the fossil Pokemon are only near approximations of their original forms. The reason they all have rock type is because they are still partially still fossils. I would love to see true forms of them via some sort of time travel mechanic. As Scarlet and Violet seem to be trying to do both past and future, I doubt they will dive too deeply into ancient Pokemon as it would favor Scarlet over Violet. Now, if they do another Legends style game, we could see a time rift with new forms of the fossils.

For the Arbok forms, they could implement it by the pokemon's nature. There are (currently) 24 different natures that a pokemon can have, and the pokedex entry says that there are 'over twenty' different variations, so it could line up nicely with the pokemon's nature. It could also encourage breeding to find all the different types

Was really hoping to see Cubone on this list. Cubone is so intriguing because the entire concept of the Pokémon is the trauma of its parent dying. What would this Pokémon be without that traumatic experience? The Dex entry implies that such a thing exists. Of course most of us think that goes into Kangaskhan. But still we don’t see the baby in the pouch as it’s own Pokémon and would be nice to finally have that connection more cannon.

It would be nice to see them further explore the ancestral forms of Pokémon like they did with the Hisuian forms of some of the modern Pokémon like Voltorb

In the anime there was an episode where all of Kanto's/the city's (can't remember which) Magnemite joined together to create a giant eye-looking hive mind. Leading up to the conclusion of the episode Professor Cerise theorised they were about to evolve into something before being halted, that could link to the magnezone evolution somehow

You forgot dunsparce. In its Sword dex entry it says "This Pokémon's tiny wings have some scientists saying that Dunsparce used to fly through the sky in ancient times" this suggests another form

I don't think it's official canon, but there's a cool theory about Graveller/Golem swapping DNA with Machoke/Machamp when they trade. Hence Machamp having Graveller's extra arms and Golem gaining Machoke's lizard head. So I wonder what a un-spliced third evolution for these lines would look like?

In addition for Dreepy (since I know this video was released before SV came out), its Violet dex entry states "It has a habit of biting at Clauncher even though it doesn't feed on them. This is said to be vestigial behavior from when Dreepy was alive." Meaning that it was a predator that preyed upon Clauncher (and likely its evolutions hunted Clawitzer). This also means that Clauncher existed during the same time period as Dreepy's prehistoric form.

If Poipole is a starter, the most likely scenario is that its counterparts are Grass and Ground-type to make a trio. Poison beats Grass, which beats Ground, which beats Poison.

I'd love more "side evolutions". Like how Scizor and Scyther have the same BST, just differently arranged.

With Magnezone it’s more likely they tried to make it evolve beyond the natural limits of Pokémon possibly by making into a new subspecies or mega evolution.

One thing about Mikon (Baby Vulpix) Is that it's three tails are growing out from a single tail, so it still fits that early pokedex entry.

16:56 HE CALLED IT! he predicted paradox forms

Not only did Gastrodon have a huge shell, but it (and Shellos) only ever diverged into two forms when Mount Coronet divided them, so historically there was a single variant of Gastrodon with a shell, which may or may not have lost it before its descendants diverged

For the Paras/Parasect entries, I took it as baby versions don't have mushrooms just like how baby vulpix has 1 tail. The mushroomless Parasects sound like it dying/shedding and leaving behind a husk. This could mean a 3rd evolution where the Mushroom comes to life or a ghost version of Parasect.

In the Journeys anime there was an episode of a ton of Magnemite combining together and was going to create a new evolution. I mean 1000s of them! It was nuts. It didn’t happen but it was cool.

What about the ancient Tao Dragon? We know that Kyurem, Reshiram and Zekrom were originally one Pokemon. When the brothers it followed grew apart, it ripped itself apart to follow them both, leaving it's body behind in the form of Kyurem. We also know that Kyurem can absorb Zekrom and Reshiram back to regain it's powers. But we have only seen it absorb one of them. I personally hope that we get to see it in the Gen 5 remakes

I think the PLA entry for Parasect is referring to Parasect corpses, with the soft mushroom having been eaten by other pokemon or withered/rotten away and leaving only an (empty) exoskeleton (hence unmoving. They could even still be twitching or otherwise moving depending on how their nerve system works). Mushroom-less Paras might be a thing, if there was a way to prevent the mushroom spores from infecting the paras egg/embryo/baby. And I see Poipole more like an early-game bird/rodent/bug or Eevee than part of a starter set. Compared to the rest of the known ultra beasts, Poipole is a cute, easy to handle and relatively safe option to start with.

I feel like a Porygon3 (coming out of Porygon2) could be really cool. Whilst still keeping the same colour scheme, it could look like a regular animal (duck?)/pokemon, perfecting what it was originally meant to be.

THANK YOU for bringing attention to Gastrodon!! I have always had that entry in the back of my mind! I wish we could get a variant OR. A 3rd evolution! It’s one of my faves! 😍

I'm thinking for the poipole one, the other starters types are grass and ground, poison-->grass-->ground, they are the only type matchups I could think of so it's interesting to me

Interestingly enough you can see Paras remove their Mushrooms in the first Anime Season, alongside several other flopped over Paras with their Shrooms already removed. This suggests that despite the Pokédex often depicting the relation between the Tochucaso and Paras/Parasect as parasitic, it actually appears that the Pokémon fully depends on the Mushroom to survive and reproduce, making the relationship more of a symbiotic kind.

The Magikarp would even predate Hisui since we saw regular Magikarp there. Would love to see a Porygon 3 but it would need to be of similar stats to Porygon Z to be fair. Maybe a more defensive version

Along the lines of “ancient form pokemon”I was really hoping we’d get “Prime Pokémon” which was their ancient or original forms like the fossil Pokémon without the rock typing (or like Gastro) and see what they were like back when they roamed the world

Poipole is probably not a traditional 1-of-3 starter, based solely on the typing and fact that it is a two stage evolution Pokemon. It's more likely that Poipole is like the Pikachu of its world, where it wasn't the normal starter but is very popular and counted among the starters due to a special circumstance.

Unfortunately, the Paras situation would be a much harder situation to fix. Even if in the earliest pokemon game chronologically the baby-est Paras don't *seem* to have mushrooms yet, that's because the spores haven't yet grown. They are still there, just haven't become visible to the human eye.

Here's another thought. Since Poipole is a starter, maybe where it's from there's an item meant to help it and its other starters to evolve to a third state.;)

In a really cool episode of the anime, magnemite almost evolved into a new giant sized pokemon that required fusing hundreds of magnemites together who had to first charge themselves with an entire city of electricity.

I'd like the idea of there being a "Paradox" magikarp in some future DLC with features of Mega Gyarados

There's also the original forms of the other Prehistoric Pokémon (and I'm not just talking about the _Sword_ and _Shield_ shenanigans). Tyrantrum and Aerodactyl's Pokédex entries indicate there's a glitch in the resurrection process that results in the clones not appearing exactly as they were in-life.

In a similar vein to Arbok, one of the pokedex entries for mantyke states that they have different back patterns depending on the region where the mantyke is found.

Great video! Another thing to consider are the Gen 8 fossile fragment pokémon (I hate them so much). There are 4 Pokémon (I think it were 4?) hidden right there and mutilated beyond any recognition.

I really hope that we're getting more paradox Pokémon in future DLCs. There are so many Dreepy in Area Zero, I was so disappointed there was no paradox form of it.

I will never forget in Pokémon yellow/red/blue when that random dude in Misty's city tell you that Raichu you traded him went off and evolved.

I feel like the paras prevo would have been a great way to show a Pokémon using a parasitic mushroom as a den that eventually takes over the host. This could be seen as a pure bug time originally and when it evolves and is taken over it gains the grass typing to reflect the internal change.

It's hypothesized that the reverse-fossilization process adds rock typing to prehistoric Pokemon. If so, Kabutops and Genesect could share an original forme as well. Also, where did you get the prehistoric Genesect art? It looks sick.

The mushroomless specimens lying unmoving on the forest floor are probably either dead or molted shells.

Surprised you didn't mention Complete Kyurem, the form before Reshiram and Zekrom fissioned off from it

I think the Paras dex entry isn't meant to imply a fungus-less Paras, and rather that other Pokemon eat the fungus (likely Stantler, which inhabit the same areas).

Makes sense about Dreepy, it's form greatly resembles the giant prehistoric salamander Diplocaulus.

You missed the point of the Magnezone and Parasect entries. The Magnezone entry is just their way of reinforcing the "3 stage is max stage" rule. The Parasect entry is just stating that the mushroom has moved on and left behind a husk/corpse of the adult paras. Either due to being eaten by something else, or the host dying outright. The Paras entry doesn't state "IF" just when. So the real story behind the Paras line is that they're entire species are just doomed to forever sprout mind control mushrooms and die.

I’ve wanted a porygon-3 for years, would be such a cool mon

I think that the idea of a whole game utilizing the Ultra Beasts as an entire Dex would be amazing. Maybe it could have a futuristic look to it mainly with the region or World you would be exploring underwent a cataclysm centuries earlier that mashed all the Ultra Worlds together into the region you explore. It would be a messy idea to organize, sure but I wouldn't expect it until at least Sun/Moon/US/UM remakes come out, it could be their Legends Arceus title, Legends Necrozma or something, maybe make the big light dragon the centerpiece of why the world is the way it is. Hell it could even be Ultramegaopolis or whatever it was as the main/starting town

My favorite is the stuff pertaining to Drowzee and Musharna line. From Drowzee in Stadium and FireRed it states: The drowzee line are descendants of a legendary animal named Baku. In addition for Drowzee in Sun: It is considered to share common ancestry with Munna and Musharna. So this implies there is a pokemon, named Baku, like the same one from yokai myths, that might have existed long ago.

Paradox Pokémon from the past interest me more because there’s a chance to see these lore entries and current fossil Pokémon in their true forms

Maybe Magnazone was an early reference to Mega Evolution.

Can't believe... The true dragon wasn't mentioned in this video, it's really one of the other most commonly known secret pokemon since it is a huge plot point in B/W/B2/W2

With the Dreepy line it could actually imply 2 possible alternate Pokemon. What it was like in the distant past, but also a possible Fossil Pokemon variant. Probably Rock/Dragon if following the classic Fossil Pokemon trend. With that thought process you could maybe include all the Fossil Pokemon on this list if you follow theory that the reviving process isn't perfect and alters their appearence. (Most noteably woth Aerodactyl) Also facinating going back and watching these months or years after they were originally uploaded. Seeing what predictions come true or not.

Drippy line is IMO one of the best pokemon ideas ever: It's a combination of an EXTINCT amphibian fused with B-2 "SPIRIT" bomber. It self explains itself

Toxicroak and Seismatoad were mentioned to be similar species in the Sword and Shield Pokedex entries, which kinda implies that them and their pre-evolutions are likey more closely related to each other than they are to other amphibian Pokemon, such as the Poliwag line or Mudkip line( which mostly based off of Axolotls), their ancestors could have even diverged into the Pokemon that would eventually become them or at least co existed alongside each other.

Dreepy was definitely a diplocaulus and that’s cool as hell!

If the alternate universe also has 3 starter Pokémon, with Poipole being one of them, and if they also form a rock-paper-scissors relationship, then we can assume the group consists of a Ground type, a Grass type and Poipole. If they are also equal in power level and evolve just once, then we can deduce there is an evolution for these implied Pokémon that may or may not add a secondary type. Considering Naganadel's secondary Dragon type also having an advantage over Grass type, then the Grass type's secondary type (if any), might be Water or Ice for the offensive advantage over Ground starter; Bug or Flying for the resistances. Though I think Ice is unlikely because it would give Grass starter an advantage over both other starters and, while that isn't unheard of (Sinnoh starters, for example), I think it's not a good idea. The Ground type starter's second type (if any) would be Psychic (offensive advantage); Rock, Steel or Ghost (resistances). We know Naganadel is part Dragon type, so we can also use that to deduce any other type that may be added when taking Naganadel into account. That would add Ice as a possibility. The hypothetical starter trio would be: 1- Naganadel 2- One of the following: Grass Grass/Water Grass/Ice Grass/Bug Grass/Flying 3- One of these: Ground Ground/Rock Ground/Steel Ground/Ghost Ground/Ice

you talked about corpish being the first regional form as it is imported from another region, but I'd like to add two things: the first is that it may not have changed form after being imported, and the second is that this has likely happened before. in gen 1, there are pokémon that can only be found in the safari zone and nowhere else. this indicates that those pokemon are not originally from kanto, and were brought over and kept in a nature preserve, to not disrupt kanto's ecology -- like they do in real life zoos. so those may very well be the first regional forms, or at least the first pokémon that were introduced in a region that's not their original region, just like corpish. pinsir is a pokémon that gives credit to this theory, since it's based on a real life bug that lives in deserts and there are no deserts in kanto. scyther, in its turn, exists in hisui and has a different evolution, so we can assume that's its original region.

I think there’s a chance for dreepys past form to be seen in scarlet/ violet. They have been confirmed in the latest trailer, and they did reveal the past / future forms of pokemon.

The pokedex entry for magnizone can be explained easily by them referencing the next game's generation's gimmick bring mega evolution. We know gamefreak plans these games years in advance so it's not out of the realm of possibility that, they could have originally planed a mega magnizone but ultimately scraped it in development leaving this as the only reference.

Maaan, they really should've used that Magikarp entry when they made Legends Arceus. Hisuian-Magikarp with beefy stats, then turn Gyarados into a proper psuedo-legendary.

Some of these are a stretch. The dex entry for Magnezone says the attempt to evolve it failed, so there is no evolution that ever existed. Corphish just got imported from another region as it is and it spread its numbers. There’s no suggestion it’s a different form. It’s like taking a Bulbasaur from Kanto and putting it in the wild in Sinnoh - it’s not native to the region but there’s no regional form

Seeing Corphish and Crawdaunt having “hidden” forms makes me happy, as those two are among my favorite Hoenn Pokémon.

I would honestly like to see a lost world region full variants for these but also for the fossil Pokémon that man have been altered by the fossilizing into a rock type

11:00 It could also be that the series does actually acknowledge the concept of Pokemon evolving naturally and growing more gradually rather than just magically transforming from one form to the next.This could imply that evolution as we know it is either merely a narrative device or that Pokemon can do both

One more. Scarlet and Violet have past paradox forms, they should have made an ancient Magikarp. Boosted stats, good typing, even make it good competitively! It would have been awesome!

Never knew the Pokedex has so many secret Pokemon

a lot of these have really good potential for scarlet and violets paradox theme, especially since we're getting a dlc along with a future verizion and past suicune that we saw in the scarlet/violet books

I mean, genesect has the basic body shape and head shape as Kabutops. Especially with their mention of it being ancient, I’m fairly certain it is meant to be a Kabutops.

I think the Corphish line and its regional variant parallels invasive species irl, especially with the line about it greatly increasing its population. A lot of invasive species have to change and adapt to new environments they’re brought into, mimicking evolutionary traits of species around it. I’d be curious to check their catch rates to see if similar to irl they overpopulate areas and start killing off native species either by predation or more commonly food competition. Little swamp nerd rant there but it’s an interesting concept to bring up in Pokémon

For what the Legends Arceus entry implies, more than a "Mushroom-less Paras evolving into a Mushroom-less Parasect", it's that the Mushroom-less Parasects are dead, just corpses. So the mushroom goes to inhabit other specimens (probably splitting into smaller ones or something to invade baby Paras) and leaves the original host rotting.

I'm pretty sure the Hisuian Pokédex entry for Parasect "lying motionless" is saying that if you remove the tochukaso mushroom from its back, it goes brain-dead and stops moving. Earlier dex entries for Paras say that the spores are scattered on it at birth. The juveniles without the mushrooms probably still have a mycelium network growing through their bodies.

I always viewed it as in the distant past (prehistoric maybe) magikarp had a much stronger form aka gyrados. And it essentially devolved over time into the weak thing it is today, but luckily it can still evolve into its strong form again with training and experience

I remember in an episode of Pokemon Journeys there was a million Magnetons gathering in the air and the Professor said that the Magnetons were about to make a hypothetical "rare and long lost evolution"

If none of those pokémon come out on the next DLC wave, at least Gamefreak got a whole lot of ideas for new pokémon/regional forms from this video.

For magnezone maybe they were hinting at a possible mega evolution that got scrapped? It would also be cool to see “regional variants” of porygon, where you can get different “upgrade” items for it depending on what region you’re in. Region exclusive items to evolve or change the forms of Pokémon like rotom and sinistea would be interesting too.

I think the dex entry of Poipole is trying to say it's like along the lines a pigdey or rattata. at least that's what I'm taking from it.

Hopefully in the future we get a mega evolution type of mechanic that makes Pokémon robotic like the future Pokémon in scarlet

I think a cooler concept would be another game set in the past but in ancient times, and instead of any technology you had to "befriend" any pokemon you wanted to join you and you keep like cave paintings of what the pokemon do as pokedex entries

imagine a very strong prehistoric Magikarp that cannot evolve in Scarlet, and a stronger futuristic Gyarados in Violet

The magikarp now feels like a missed opportunity for scarlet and violet

I love that you predicted the ancient form Pokémon from Scarlet and Violet right!

The poipole entry was what I expected this video to be not a video about possible other forms or non-existent evolutions

Since Magikarp is based off a koi that became a dragon I think the stronger version of Magikarp and it's evolution should be dragon type to be a bigger nod to the inspiration to the pair, and maybe have this unseen Magikarp and it's evolution have different colorations if it's found in different areas as a nod to koi fish having so many colorations themselves.

If there’s anything I want to see, it’s the original Galar fossil Pokemon. We were SO close to having 4 new dinosaurs, but they just had to mix them 🥲

Genesect does look a lot like Kabutops but purple and armored. Plus Kabutops is a fossil Pokémon so the 300,000,000 year old thing makes sense

I don't wanna hunt to see if someone has mentioned this already, but I've always postulated that Paras is a parasitic-mushroom-infected Nincada since both are derived from real-world cicada nymphs. I imagine the "unmoving Parasect" is just the chitinous remains after the mushroom has decomposed.

I've never really been a fan of the theory that Genesect is an altered Kabutops, because a lot of people seem to gloss over that one is a horseshoe crab, and the other is a Hymenoptera of unknown species.

I mean… all of the signs we have point to Kabutops. People like to cite typing as being against this, but odds are that Kabutops wasn’t always a Rock-type, instead originally being Bug/Water.