Fantastic!

Good catch. I saw that and it looked familiar but I forgot to look it up!

Yep. I've been a "2001" fan since it's release at the theaters when I was like 12 years old. When I saw "First Contact" at the theater, I said to my wife "Open the Pod Bay doors, HAL" and she nudged me and told me to shut up. LOL.

NICE!

Does that mean 2001 is Star Trek Canon?^^

"Its both incredibly obvious"... I mean, I've been looking at the paused screen and still don't see it. WHERE THE FUCK IS THIS INCREDIBLY OBVIOUS REGISTRY?!? (And since two vessels are shown on the panel, are we sure its not the Vengeance or whatever?)

I'v been doing the same thing, and I still can't see it!!!!!!!!!!!

It's on the left side of the image, smaller ship, next to the port nacelle, incredibly faint. Tilt your head to the right, it *does* say NCC0514.

@Michael Bravo Much effort, appreciated. So not only is the highlighted thing so faint all that has to be done to read it, it's not even correct :P

Yeah, this right here.

It's not even that noticeable. I had never noticed it before.

As a filmmaker, can confirm. Polaroids were still used well after camera phones, as earlier cell phones caused audio interference on recording devices when left on and roaming. They are still used, but smaller, less "secret" productions use digital cameras now, but are a risk factor for leaked stills.

@@8Biit SCTV also used Polaroids to get recurring characters right.

I was gonna say, we didn't see them actually _landing_ in the pods, only after. It's not unreasonable that they'd change into the, likely more durable and practical, away mission uniforms if they had time.

sure. you can even see them equip their stuff after landing. i guess they changed to the away mission uniform shortly before that. no mistake here...

yeah I got to agree, we mostly see the top of the pod on the bridge, its not impossible there is some storage at the bottom

Or teleporter buffer that changes his clothes for him using beam tech

I was gonna say that they changed as well, aye.

YES THANK YOU. It is not even a far stretch, but quite obvious. We see Chekov picking up utilities in that seen. It is obvious that these escape pods are loaded with survival gear: tech, rations, weapons and of course: suitable away mission uniforms. If anything you could argue that they are lucky to have uniforms that fit as well as they do but come on....the uniforms are in the pods.

If there's anything wrong about those scenes than it has to be Scott if I remember correctly he doesn't use a pod he uses a torpedo and I don't know but I doubt that torpedoes are equipped with survival gear 😉 Just saying 🇧🇻

Yup, that seldom gets mentioned but you remember correctly. It's silly, just silly.

Yep i wanted to say that but i thought other trekkies would have done so, i was right

@@mamasnightmare1 - It is one of the most not mentioned of all of the goofs and, for the life of me, I have never understood why. Also, why aren't rocket boots standard equipment for all away missions?

And people thought the recent Tardis Tubolift/shaft scene in Discovery was bad...

That entire movie was a mistake.

Well, the Borg are known for aggressive expansion :D :P

No 5, it's just that decks 27, 28, and 29 aren't mentioned until Nemesis in dialog

While 5 is a little harder to explain, I can share my headcannon for 2 extra levels. The lowest deck on naval destroyers is just the sonar dome. I went down there on rare occasion, but it was inaccessible 99% of the time and only really mattered to one division, so most of the crew could be forgiven for forgetting it existed. Unless they were studying for their ESWS board, most of the crew probably wouldn't think of it if asked how many decks the ship had. Could be a similar situation with the enterprise. There are two decks down at the very bottom that house some sort of machinery and humans normally don't go into, so, unless you owned some of the gear down there, you probably wouldn't even consider them if someone asked how many decks there were.

@@achristiananarchist2509 Hi ACA, Thanks for your answer, but the Person in First Contact who is mentioning the amount of decks is noone less, than the Captain, bragging with the size of his great ship. And a Captain always knows the exact size of his ship.

@@achristiananarchist2509 Hi ACA, Thanks for your answer, but the Person in First Contact who is mentioning the amount of decks is noone less, than the Captain, bragging with the size of his great ship. And a Captain always knows the exact size of his ship.

But what about floor 29 and the abyss below in Nemesis? Nothing in the deck plans can explain THAT 😂

Well, he was possessed by an evil alien who then took over Tuvok for 100 years, so I bet that makes him invinceable? :D

I feel like the writers of "Flashback" didn't watch Star Trek VI so much as look at production skills. In Trek VI, Spock mentions the Praxis explosion happened several months ago. Yet Tuvok tells Janeway the Klingon attack on the Excelsior was days later. There are other inconsistencies too.

Maybe it was a pilot episode for the new series: Weekend at Valtanes! See the hijinks as dead Valtane goes on away missions w his goofy lower deck sidekicks!

And Kirk was wearing a different design of spacesuit in that clip from the one we see him wearing when he catches Spock, in particular the helmet.

well and the extended TV cut of David Lynch's "Dune" had scenes with the Fremen without their blue glowing eyes. Extended TV versions had no standards at all... they only had to be longer. No matter how.

I caught that as a kid, and naively assumed it was a part of the ship we didn't recognize for whatever reason. Now, the matte painting when they walk out of the Enterprise that looked partially melted on the other hand, I had no explanation for.

@@thomasloney612 I recall seeing hanging stage lights in that scene as well, which were totally out of place on a starship. :)

Oopsie

Bit late, but I think I have some answers. About the Federation being an armada: this could very well just be a colloquialism. And, about the Elders in the Katric Ark and Amanda: Vulcans may suspect or even know that a human could at least carry a katra for a short time. It was probably a "desperate times and measures" sort of thing. That, or Sarek was permitted to take her with him as his wife, and he definitely would want her close to try and protect her as much as possible.

Actually by the plans they use both, which is a common nautical practice, with each numbered level being divided into lettered sections. On some vessels these lettered decks will be consecutive across the ships levels and often denote specific tasks and uses, on others they will repeat on each deck.

Maybe that's where the 26 decks came from. 26 letters = 26 decks?

More than 26 decks? "Deck Double A....MCO."

... which is a change from the series, where the decks are numbered.

@@neilwilliams2907 Too bad they didn't read _On Beyond Zebra_.

He also wasn't acting, and the burned hand isn't makeup. He got too close to the pyrotechnics in the console. Ouch! They had the camera rolling, and since nothing beats the real thing, they left it in.

@@Terminator484 that’s crazy... I actually had never heard about this before.

@@Terminator484 I heard he had some kind of protective layer of fake skin, but that it burned through.

Thought the same thing watching him back in Heroes.

@@ChristmasLore I came here to say that! 😆

@@ChristmasLore when he and Kirk got into that tussle on the bridge, I half expected him to go all Sylar on his ass and telekinetically split Kirk's skull open lol

Makes sense - it’s quite common for people to become long-sighted as they reach upper-middle age. So Kirk might need them to clearly see the display on his watch close-up but not to see the room around him.

If I am using my reading glasses rather than my varifocals, I have to take them off when not needed, because they distort my distance vision so badly. I'm not alone in this, my cousin has recently started wearing reading glasses and is the same. This is why some people look over their glasses at those they are talking to

Like the Dos Equs guy, Captain Kirk entering the Mutara Nebula doesn't shake him, he shakes it.

Either that, or Captain Kirk is just a really tough alpha male!

I thought it was as good as the other 2 Kelvin movies. Nemesis will always be *THEE* worst trek movie of all time anyway

I did not like Star Trek 09 or Into Darkness so I avoided Beyond. About a year after it came out I finally sat down to watch it and was blown away by how much I loved it! And now I always think of how I wish I took time to see it when it was in the theater. I've probably rewatched it more than any other blockbuster in recent years.

@@jonathantefft2902 I’ll have to watch it again soon myself.

Enjoyment of a movie and criticism aren't always on equal footing. I enjoy lots of movies that technically are rather inferior or problematic movies.

@@imkluu I certainly can agree with you there. I’m sure there are critically poorly received or technically poorly made films I enjoy and vice versa.

I mean, there is a significant emergency equipment cache inside military aircraft ejector seats, and these pods are significantly larger than one of those.

Technically, both rifles were specially designed for the movie and never seen before, they just didn’t seem to care for the first design and replaced them during filming.

They ran out of charge on the way and swapped for new charged ones at the armory deck offscreen?

@@warrenrudolph4475 "Fuck,i forgot the batteries...Sorry Sir,i will be right back"..comes back with a new rifle instead :D

*Sulu

I didn't see it either it's barely visible but take a good look to the nacelles, next to the one that is closer to the bottom of the display is almost not visible (like set with 90% opacity) NCC/0514

It's not the moon!

@@nagash303 I know..it´s a giant egg^^

exactly, ear lobes are hereditary in humans, but maybe not Vulcans? Who knows

Not to mention the fact that Spock is half-human.

My thought exactly.

Whenever a young vulcan runs riot someone will tell him: "Now you'd better let your earlobes grow attached first young man!"

I never noticed the differences in the two actors' ear lobes, so I am willing to guess it was an oversight vs. not caring about the discrepancy.

I was raised ranting about that! 😡

@@ShatnerLover 😊

No, don't mention it. You'll get Walter Koenig fired.

@@wearwolf2500 we wouldn't want that! 😊 Of course, firing Starfleet officers was inwented in Russia... 🖖

@@syntrilliumc.e.p.9326 That's brilliant. Good old Walter! Thanks for that! 😊🖖

😂😂😂😂

Sometimes the historical documents get damaged, and the repairs aren't perfect.

That was changed for TV broadcast. If you watch the DVD or blu-ray she says 'f--- that' ...

@@philiprhoades3139 I clearly recall "screw that" on our DVD copy. I'm pretty sure that if the line was originally "f--- that" on a DVD release, they then released a later run with the line altered.

I just love the fact you thought that was a _Star Trek_ movie. If only….

Bloody hell! Yeah I can see it now! They were really scraping the bottom of the barrel including that one 😳 Someone must watch these films frame by frame looking at every millimetre of the screen 🤓

Yeah I can't see it either myself, but I honestly see it as more a little easter egg to the first Star Trek with the reboot cast, as the NCC-0514(USS Kelvin) was the ship from the very beginning of the game that Kirk's father was on(and temporary captain of)

The Easter Egg is to JJ Abrams’ Grandfather, Henry Kelvin born in May of 1914 - USS Kelvin NCC-0514

"Incredibly obvious"

@@Jimmy_D_82 That's what Star Trek nerds do. There's a reason they parodied that so heavily in Galaxy Quest. ;)

Star Trek The Motion Picture: Spock and Doctor McCoy’s arm band colors switch jackets

@@kellyweingart3692 They actually switch jackets. Look at the lengths of the jackets. Once the jackets switch, Spock is wearing a much shorter jacket.

If you think Uhuru's earrings colour change is small, go rewatch TOS. Her stockings keep switching too. But I look for those things

I'd also expect the bottom deck of the ship to be much more cramped than that, and not have trash chutes leading down to even lower catwalks, with 10 story drops into the abyss below them...

Guys, it is the *WORST* Trek movies of all. pointing out that error is like trying to point out which turd has the most sweetcorn in it.

At least they didn’t do a “RoboCop”, and give the Viceroy 6’ arms!

As I hear it, the Remans beamed in at the bottom of the ship and made their way up where they ran into Riker. The doors are marked with Deck 19 or something. The long shaft is the computer core.

@@andrewshouse9840 This is no place for logic.

I believe the TV show was written before the movie and I guess no one went back and changed the script between movie release and the episode being filmed and aired. The worst mistake about it is that the person that wrote the movie script also wrote the TV episode.

Well, Scotty did drink a lot ...........

@@sam21462 Scotty had also been stuck in a transporter buffer for an extended amount of time that buffers are categorically not designed to function over, who knows what sort of problems that could cause, not least temporary dementia and/or memory loss. This would also make his later depression and sadness displayed on the holodeck all the more poignant however.

@@berthulf Wow, most excellent point and you will have to pardon me as I think I have something in my eye ........ damn.

@@imkluu Also, the parts in Generations were originally written as Spock and McCoy, not Scotty and Chekov. Nimoy and Kelley declined to be in the movie, so they brought in Doohan and Koenig, but they didn't bother to change the script to reflect it.

i don't understand

Good point

@@noizW Easy: The entrance Water level ratio would of course become bigger and bigger the more water is drained

They just "walked in" the holographic ship. They must have a "bridge of some sort" from the ground to the ship. Now when she ran out... Where's the "bridge"? The ship was then far away from the ground... and she fell into the water.

Uhuru!

That's alright, as long as they got Nichelle Nichols spelled right.

70's grasp of computers

@@RichO1701e now it's "shoot the screen!"

@@joermnyc Gibbs (NCIS) shooting monitors to stop terrorist supercomputers. That'll work :)

I have never understood this in VI. Sulu's Captain's log:.... we are heading home under full impulse power. That's sub-light speeds. In other words they are going no-where fast at all.

Shatner didn't think the Excelsior should be the hero and that the Enterprise should save itself. So they took dialog originally written for Sulu and his officers and just moved it the Enterprise.

What about STAR TREK (2009) all the way through to the end of BEYOND?

@@bheast86 how about not. For years now I see the opposition to the new star trek line. And though it's a shame it was nescessary as the one onwilling to continue had the rights, the cast is better then every film before. And it's a shame that their salaries are now the reason no films are made. So how about every Star Trek fan feeling the need to kill the enterprise because their favorite spacesoap have gotten some action in it, just... shut..... up.

Fun fact: Before he became our beloved mellow painter Bob Ross was a hard nosed military man with the nickname of "Ballbuster Bob".

@@sam21462 yeah, I knew that, it is so cool! I am a Bob Ross fan also!

@@morrisgautreau6704 - Ya know (ok, so obviously you know) he was one fascinating individual that most people only know, as, basically, a meme, but a very very beloved meme. I think a nice Hollywood biopic might do very well.

@@sam21462 A biopic would be interesting. I grew up watching Bob. I know a good deal about Bob Ross!

@@morrisgautreau6704 - Now all we need is a script, one hundred million dollars, and Tom Hanks.

Also we don't "see" them climb out of the pods do we? Could they have climbed out, opened that bulkhead compartment, and retrieved what they would need?

Now I have to go find this ... thaaaaanks 😂😂😂

I hadn't noticed that, and since they have multifunction wrist mounted communicator things in TMP I just presumed it was something similar. Nice catch.

That has always bugged me too mate ;)

Especially blaringly obvious when they threw the Romulan out into space through the wall ...

@@seajaye9540 but that romulan was phased as well that's why he was able to go through the world

@@FrankAnzalone yes, but shouldn't all 3 of them have fallen through the floor? That was my point of mentioning how easily he went out into space.

Maybe the gravity plating in the floors acted as a barrier.

i didnt really like Quinto in the first Abramsverse outing ... his acting felt very stiff and had almost an amatuer-ish quality to it ... but by the sequel he seemed to fit into the role a lot easier and his acting had improved significantly

Look alike? Um, not really.

Same thing happened in "The Cage:" the transporter techie is seen wearing black-framed eyeglasses in one shot; in the next, they're inexplicably absent. Obviously the actor removed them between shots.

Yeah but that one is too easy, I mean is it a continuity error or are they showing that Vulcan earlobes change as they mature? 🤣😂🤣😂

"Or maybe the filmmakers just didn't care." Does ANYONE?

@@marlaerwin3610 - If you knew just how much some people care about such things you would sleep less well at night. 😱

@@marlaerwin3610 clearly you’ve never been to a convention. Some of my fellow fans scare the shit out of me. Check out the documentary Trekkers and Trekkers 2. Should give you a clue.

Creepiest thing to my young teenage brain .. A smiling Vulcan ...

Deleting a reply to someone else to add here since I see you made the same point HAHA ... Shouldn't he have just landed on the outer hull like a couple feet down??

Clearly when the borg added the extra decks in First Contact they simply just Tardis'd the ship, cause it's already established they must have added 5 decks for there to be a #29 ... The rest has got to be it's also a Tardis, not just the pods.

Of course, it was important to have a catwalk on the Enterprise, where else would they hold their fashion shows! ;)

I can't help but think of the MST3K of "Space Mutiny": "That's a railing death."

Yeah, I was wondering what the Nexus was doing in TUC. :P

Exactly. I was going to mention this one but you beat me to it.

This is true, the only explanation for it would be Enterprise had it from a previous mission and no one removed it. Excelsior and Enterprise could have been doing the same mission, but in different places in the Alpha quadrant. Someone definitely dropped the ball here for sure, either leaving out explaining dialog or firing the damn thing from the correct ship ...

@@seajaye9540 Well, since we already established that the Enterprise and Excelsior were at one point the same ship... ;)

Or maybe phasers have laser sighting, and this is only the first time anyone noticed.

@@imkluu It would be a logical and helpful thing, since they obviously never got any physical aiming assistance. Then again, TNG-Style Hand-Phasers have been used thouroughly TNG, DS9 and VOY and often at close ranges, one should assume that you'd have catched a glimpse.

@@imkluu That would be highly practical, considering the anti-intuitive way hand phasers are held, and the total lack of any type of sights on anything smaller than a phaser rifle. The tiny little pocket versions occasionally seen in TNG (the ones no bigger than a keyfob) are by far the worst offenders for this problem. It'd take a TON of practice to develop the muscle memory needed to get marginally accurate with one of those things... but if they had a laser sight that flicked on when you simply held it correctly, aiming would be almost dummy-proof easy.

Or upon being fired at "Computer end program!" *dude falls* Aaahh *splat*

STV was just plain bad.

The dialog itself suggests that it is not, and since it's not impossible (Chekov may well have been on the ship during the events of "Space Seed," just not assigned to the bridge yet), most Trekkies don't consider it an error. Still, it would have been better if Sulu and Chekov had switched roles. Walter Koenig has jokingly suggested that Chekov and Khan ran into each other in the restroom, which would be a nice excuse for why it didn't appear on 1960's T.V.!

@@DAOzz83 That's been my theory all along: just because the actor wasn't on the show does not mean that the character wasn't on the ship...Chekov was probably working in the exobotany lab or something.

@@willmfrank He could have been on the bridge during the night shift. Someone's got to steer the ship while Kirk & co are sleeping.

Holoship, so you mean ST: Insurrection, right?

@@theJF7 You're right. Fixed ;)

They're avant-garde clock hands. 😁

I thought Insurrection was another dud as a film.

The Kelvin's warp nacelle was on its dorsal side, the stardrive section was under-slung. The opening shot was inverted.

@@sarahscott5305 Hi Sarah, I had a second look and googled the ship after your post. All the movie reference shots, blueprints and models I see confirm my post. Please have a look yourself.

@@noslack68671 Well, I've just had a look too. And yes, you're absolutely right. I'll quietly slink away now... ... .. .

@@sarahscott5305 LOL- Well I do appreciate you young lovely lady fans Trekkin' on. Nice to know you are out there! :)

@@noslack68671 From one lovely Trekkie to another, it's nice to be appreciated!

Maybe he was beamed to the Klingon Ship and instead of rematerialization there, they only took his Combadge and send his stream down. So he can't call for help or be beamed up again.

@@Isador he wasn't. It the beam came from the Enterprise.

@@Andrew-zv4fm Didn't the Duras said, that Picard has to be beamed to their ship for beaming down, because only they know the exact locations?

@@Isador maybe but the transporter beam is not Klingon it is federation.

Well, the episode aired first so this is the fault of the Generations writers for not remembering that bit. Or just blame it on long term transporter storage giving him the brain-fuzzies. LOL

Scotty could have simply assumed Kirk was found alive and well. Ya never know!

@@juunidesu12 My theory is that Scotty's "fuzzy memory" would have had him remembering or conflating some event further in the past than the Nexus event. It still fits in with the long-term transporter buffer theory, but might also make his claim a bit more credible.

Probably just Q

@@RocketCouch most likely

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