i have one of them escort sluggers and had no issues with it the whole year ive had it you do have to rack them back a little harder then most shotguns to get that shell to eject right when slam firing but itll hold up i love mine

Just Purchased a Smith and Wesson, .38 Special, M&P, Blackout, colored with a rubberized gray grip. Love it! I have to take Concealed Carry Classes though, for Self-Defense, because where I live, there are Laws that have to be abided for Carry Pistols. Mostly, the reason I bought the Pistol, was for Self-Defense and Concealed Carry. There is no cocker on the .38 Special, which I really like! Brand-New, as well, for 470 Dollars. Nice, small size, very pocketable. Thanks for the awesome videos, hickok45! Stay safe, now!

Hickok, have you ever thought about doing a review on the JC Higgins model 20? they are extremely affordable and very well made shotguns.

@@gamefreak8503 oldman rocks brother! lol

Mr Hickok which ones .45 ACP pistols you would keep for himself if you had to sell the rest?

@managerial conclusions the maverick 88 security and field combo is $220 on rk guns. Pretty sweet deal for a good gun.

Government intervention and market manipulation sucks...

I love my Maverick 88 Field. About 1000 shells through it in all weather conditions - I've never cleaned it or oiled it and have never had a single problem with it. It always fires, ejects and feeds. I think my father paid $149 + tax (CAD) in 2015 for my Christmas gift... I'm going to clean it and oil it this week now that I think of it haha

@@joakey77 yep. My dads two are both dirty as can be and never have any issues. Can’t beat them for the price, even in todays market.

Yup

Hahaha!! Hey tho!!! The escort can take the ass out on a trip🤣🤣

Pump and dump! 🤣

Hahahahha

And you know what? She'll get the job done until you can get something a little better.

The expensive one should be called the "wife". And it would only work when it wants to.

Take it apart, clean it, oil it, then cycle the action a few hundred times to break it in. My guess is that the internal parts are not as precision fit as the Mossberg or Remington so the action is not as smooth or as reliable from the factory.

@@PassivePortfolios For that price, they certainly don't have the budget to polish or fit any parts. They just take them out of the machine and assemble the guns.

Or oil and clean it put 200 rounds through it oil and clean it again.

I speak as a local and a escort owner. In low-budget Turkish-made rifles, lubrication is thick at the factory. It will fit better when you lubricate it normally after shooting for a while. They produce much better weapons with a little more budget.

Do you have any other shotguns that you could give us a comparison to?

@@commongunner it’s all the same lol. Just break it in properly , and lube it well, polish the action if need be . Most guns run fine

@@commongunner if I only had $500 to spend , I’d get the cheaper one & a big selection of shells

@@sincitychris This is the way

Better to have one than none at all.

Ha ker

How does this say it’s from 6 days ago lol

@@aiden7354 Marty we did it!!!

Time traveler!

@The Revolver Den I believe they are talking about the comment we are all replying to it says it was written 6days ago when the videos only been up for like half an hour haha

88s run forever and refuse to die. Probably the best inexpensive shotgun on the market.

Clean it and it'll last eons

My first thoughts were 'why no mention of the Maverick in this video?'

Me too.

In Ukraine, a Maverick costs 88 - 550 bucks, a Hatsan Escort costs 300. I read the comments and became sad. I think that every person should have something like an RPG 7 at home or at least a 122 caliber mortar, but first it would be nice to stabilize the arms market and saturate it

Picked mine up 7 years ago for $189. It's a tank.

I just wish it had a better finish on it. It just doesn’t hold up where I live so it’s not really worth it unless you plan to get a nicer finish on it. At which point it kind of defeats the purpose and you might as well get a better 500 or 590.

Picked one up on sale earlier this year for $190. That pretty much ended the budget shotgun discussion for me - really happy with it.

Maverick 88 was my first shotgun, bought from Kmart for $120 (a long time ago) Still got it, still works fine!

I have both and I say the Slugger is better bang for the buck. Was shocked at how smooth it cycles and recoil management even with high brass was impressive. 88 looks better though.

Agreed. Mr Hickok45 is a great teacher. I’ve admired Mas Ayoob and Jeff Cooper since the 1980’s. I only recently came across Hickok45 and really enjoy his channel. His videos remind me of hanging out with my husband, brother in law and friends, shooting and grilling out; saving the beer until our ammo ran out and the brass was picked up.

Agreed!!!!

How does a receiver wear out??? It's just a solid piece of steel or aluminum. It's not a moving part.

@@Jigmaster55 The bolt guides on cheap shotguns are what wears out on them, they are generally cast out of cheap material and friction wears them out.

Check out Derya shotguns; they seem to be some of the best turkish made ones. As for my own experience, I own a Salix Arms "less lethal" shotgun with a 4140 chrome-moly steel barrel and 7075 aluminium for the receiver, and while I had some hang ups when I shot it for the first times, after 100+ rounds it's gotten a lot better, it could be much better, but here in Colombia, a basic mossberg 500 without a stock goes for $1600, which takes me to why I said "less lethal"; it is marketed as such and at least for now it's legal to own it, but I still tried it with 2 and 3/4" birdshot and then 00 buck and it worked like a charm

@@Jigmaster55 It has rails that the slide rides in, ejectors that wear out. most likely it is cheaper because they don't polish the moving parts as well as a more expensive shotgun. Tarus had a problem with that in 1970's, and they were using Smith&Wesson tooling for some of their pistols. Spending the money with a competent gunsmith would fix the issue.

Get a maverick 88 they last better than that Turkish junk shotguns TFB tv did a review on it where it ran like a top where as the Turkish, black aces, etc shotguns struggle in it or outright fail and they are also priced pretty decently

The bolt looks like a Remington 870. I wonder if replacing the extractor with a machined replacement like a Volquartsen would work in this and get better extraction reliability. It's what I ended up doing to my Remington 870 Tactical to make it extract reliably as the MIM part was causing failures to extract numerous enough times to be a concern. It runs great now.

Better reliability, outright. Turkish Pistols are awesome. Turkish Shotguns?.......Meh. Usually "good enough" but way too many lemons.

The 88 is a good gun at a good price .....sure beats any low priced gun I can think of

i hope this guy is not too old because i know when he passes away its going to hit all of us hard, really hard. no more shooting videos.

hopefully this guy is not too old because when he passes away its going to hit everyone hard, really hard. no more shooting and testing videos.

That Blueline is basically a Norinco version of Remington 870...good choice!

Mine blew the front bead off the first time I ran buckshot thought it. I agree spend few extra bucks

​@@jayofalltrades7082nothing a little JB Weld can't fix

Yep I have a couple of the Maverick 88's. I'd find a used quality shotgun before I'd buy a Turkish or China shotgun for protection use.

I got a Turkish shotgun in a trade a while back and it’s not bad. It’s got like 550 rounds thru it and only a few misfires but I assume it’s bc I used some really cheap range ammo. Remington and Winchester run well. Although I do want to buy a maverick 88 I had seen at a gun show with a step stock. Looks super dope

I like the crossbolt safety on the 88 better than the tang on the 500, especially with a pistol grip stock.

I bought a Maverick 88 28 inch barrel quite a few years ago for $129 brand new. I bought a 18 inch barrel for it for $150. Great gun "for the money." I have just over 2k rounds through it and never had an issue.

Yeah was thinking the same thing

And…….??

That’s what I have. Except I bought one used for $100 about six years ago. It was all tacticooled but underneath still a decent mossie

I had a maverick and won some family skeet shoots with it , it was lethal and reliable

@@chadhelms4907 in regards to cheap shotguns? Do you have a brain deficiency bro

Just got the Maverick 88 20" 7+1 security for $254. Helluva gun for the money. Cycles great right out of the box.

He seems to be in good health.....

@@charleyjohnson4823 You never know when it’s someone’s time.

I think videogazer is referring to being blocked by the woke police...

I bet he loves these comments. Sorry for pointing out the inevitable Hickok. I hope you keep shooting 12 gauge into your 120s : )

@@Great_Wall_of_Text Hickok45 videos are awesome!

Had a mossberg 500 for about 10 years it’s been awesome

It's that short throw that was causing his issues with the escort it seems to me

@@kevinboaz317 thanks for you reply Kevin. I'm not sure the throw distance was shorter. It was mainly the position of the slide that was designed to be closer in towards the shooter's body. The Mossberg youth 20 ga shotgun is designed that way with a shorter stock and slide closer in to the shooter, but with the throw is same distance of the adult version. Also, Hickok is used to the normal throw of the Moss 590 and Rem 870. With practice, I would bet the hung up shells would be fewer with the Escort. Just guess'n however. Cheers, bro, rocket

Check out getting a 20 gauge instead of a 12 gauge! It doesn't kick as hard. And hits almost as hard. Still a great Home Defense shotgun

I agree 👍

@@mikieiacono8362 the 88 would destroy the competition

You will love the 590. I jkust recently upgraded from the 590 to the 930 Tactical autoloader. Love it.

@@floundergearjam Lol. I already own a Mossberg 930 SPX. It is my bedside shotgun :) I have a maverick 88 and a citadel PAT and a Tavor TS12. The maverick and citadel are low budget pumps. I wanted a military grade and higher quality durable shotgun so thats how i decided on the 590A1.

88 is $199 here. Agree, a much better option.

Same one I have, minus the pistol grip, and also very pleased with it.

Mossberg's are nice, but they're more city boy then any Winchester or Wesson thatll do for you. I could outshoot any fucki ng millennials

@@geoffkanbal7932 😆😆😆😆😆

Yeah kinda funny aswell how such a old design that dates back to about 150 years stood so consistent

No $600 is not a lot, when you consider that a good English side by side is around £ 50,000 (basic)

@@mayogamer2800 old is gold sometimes

Speak for yourself yuppie

@@mayogamer2800 Right? Like lever action rifles, bolt action rifles and 1911 pistols.

I’d go with the maverick 88 from mossberg. 200$ made in USA and I’ve heard many bad reviews from owners of this brand of shotgun.

"Pot Metal" don't rust!.. Ha!

.410 buckshot might make your single a close up coyote gun.

My Stevens 320 is made in China and sucks. It does not eject (she’ll rotates backwards on last round) and pump seizes at times and needs to be mortared. Also, the Stevens/Savage receivers are made of Chinesium and most likely will crack if dropped.

@@itsjustjoe3790 My Maverick had issues with stuck shells - specifically the Winchester ones. I found little red curly cues of plastic on the receiver and grooves on the hulls - it turned out to be a burr in the barrel. I worked that out with some sandpaper, then followed it with a 12 gauge mop attached to my drill with some polishing compound. Worked wonders.

My stevens savage broke in the first 50 rounds. Got an escort days later and its still working. Although i get light primer strikes every so often. Own a 870 for home defense, cant rely on the escort with light primer strikes

They now have the Shockwave in 590s model. That model was made for reliably feeding the Minishells to 3 inch without a hiccup.

Yeah, you got to break some shotguns in with some heavy load shells. Especially if it's semi auto. I bought a bullpup mag fed semi auto shotgun that would fail to eject constantly. Bought some 3" inch heavy loads and it never jammed again. That being said, I'm ready to go back to the Mossberg as well. Bullpup mag fed shotgun was fun for awhile but for reliability sake, not the best.

Buy right and buy it once. Cheap out and buy over and over....

The "buy quality, buy once" advice is not one size fits all. I have a six figure income now, but I started with nothing. My dad was dead and my mom unenployed. I had very little money when I was a kid, and less when I moved out on my own. I mention this because I know what it is like to be seriously poor, and I know what it's like to be securely middle class. Trust me when I say there are times you should buy the cheap one. And, having bought the cheap one more times than I can count, sometimes you get a quality product for very little money. You just need to know how to research until you find the sweet spot. Like your friend said, spend the money on the one you want, but first you need to know what you want and reseach until you know which option fills that role. Often, the right choice is the cheap one. My general rule is this: If you use a tool every day, pay more for quality. Still, you have to research until you know which of the expensive options actually provides a quality product. If you are going to use the same tool once a year around the house, the money might be wasted if you buy the quality tool. If you don't need a precise cut or incredible durability, why pay extra for it? Even if you have some money to throw around, maybe buy a cheaper tool to use once a year and spend the money you saved on that Stratocaster you've been eying? You can get quality cheap, and you can get a cheap product for lots of money. It just takes some effort to sort through the garbage : )

@@Great_Wall_of_Text I have been in the same boat. And I agree research is everything. And I agree with most everything you said. I will give one additional point, sometimes buying used better quality makes a lot better sense than buying new cheap. I've seen yard sale and pawn shop deals that beat anything new you would buy. I think I paid $300 for my "newsed" Remington 870. Deals are out there, do your research

Some have reported poor heat treating in some Turkish shotguns leading to early failures. I think in one case some bolts were found to have poor heat treating. This reports were not with Hatsan shotguns but they too do not have the same reputation as Mossberg and others.

You need to be stocking up on ammo. You should never say "I can't find ammo" You'll be a victim to the market when you do an pay double.

@@bldontmatter5319 I do, when I can. However, it's nice to have a 12ga, when the skeet range is out of 20ga, and vice versa. I also load a lot of special stuff in 20ga.

my m88 was $188 new less than a year ago and ive had 0 problems with it

Thanks for the info, as I was looking at the Escort for cheap truck gun with some mini shells. Guess I'll stick to standard buck, bird, and foster slugs. 👍

Take a look at Mossberg's 590S, which shoots minis as well as larger shells - in any combination! There's also a Shockwave 590S.

You are correct. The open bottom and lifter design in the 500 are straight from the 31-a beautifully made old shotgun.

They sell guns at Walmart?..

@@nateb9346 yes, in some areas, a few years ago most of Walmart stores stopped selling them. I'm not sure if the store where I live still does I haven't looked lately I do most of my shopping online.

@@jamesg9068 that’s awesome LOL

@@jamesg9068 I live in California, so excuse the snowflakness.

@@nateb9346 leave that dictatorship, or vote red. It's changing republican and hopefully will mean less authoritarian laws but I doubt it

That’s not always the case most of those Turkish shotguns are not worth squat they’re often made the same you just need to know what you’re shopping for and do your research

The shell failed to eject in the first 4 shots. It's worse

funny you mention that; my first shotgun was that exact walmart stevens and my friend got the escort slugger. the slugger has a much more snappy and decisive feeling action but both have been gone bang every time so far. i imagine quality control between specimens is going to be the most pronounced issue with rock bottom shotguns like these. also, with my stevens, before i had even gotten to shoot it i somehow managed to make it double feed while loading and unloading it, but it never happened again. i think it was from babying the action and not racking it assertively.

Stevens 320 is almost a exact make of a Winchester 1300 barrel and almost every part fit …. Winchester top model for yrs!!!

But a Maverick 88 was abused, and kept running.

@@brettbaker5599 As I said tight budget if you don't want to go the used route.

Try getting a 20 gauge. It doesn't kick anywhere near as hard. And almost hits as hard as a 12 gauge. Still a great Home Defense shotgun

Are they still in production? I have one with the Shockwave Raptor Grip love it but not sure who owns them after the freedom group buy out.

They do still sell them, but i am not sure if they are still making them. From what I have heard they are made mostly from 870 parts that are assembled in china. I believe Hawk industries bought them out years ago. I am not an expert though so take everything I am saying with a grain of salt. Lol I have had mine for about 6 years now and it functions beautifully. I paid $189 for the shotgun and upgraded it with 870 parts over the years. In total I put about 200 into it for an overall total of under 400 dollars. I also have an 870 which I paid 600 for and the H&R actually functions on par or better than my 870. Its been a great budget bedside shotgun that I would trust my life with.

@@evilnineteen I've got one. It's ugly, but it runs without issue. I think my favorite part is how loud the racking is. Every pump makes that sound, but the Pardner makes more of it.

Could be this exactly. Mossbergs are usually pretty sloppy out of the box.

@@Shoot_and_Scoot I should have added, I've got a 500 and an 88 & they both rattle... I also have a Hatsan MP which is very tightly fitted and has zero slop... no jams or misfeeds so far.

@@jetranger47 they rattle a bit. I’ve shot several cheap shot guns that work fine H&R pardoner and ati pasimax 12 etc they are all tight. So mossbergs on to something with the loosy goosy approach

Uncle Bob was a cop in the Bronx. Started sending His Guns to me. One is Remington Ranger 16 gage pump. Dependable! American made. Adios from the Ozarks

870s used to always be good. I haven't heard about the quality control on newer ones though.

Yeah until the extractor breaks every couple hundred rounds lmao