Damn intel fanboys cope soo hard-“your chip is on fire and crashes”.......”all is good bro 0.1% lows bro”😂😂😂😂😂😂

buy a 14900ks and then turn it into the cheaper 14900k so you can use it. Great product!

I love the way you interact with your cat. I had a cat too he was a Good boy as well.

My i9 13900k dropped 20c in Cinebench(stock) with a Aric Freezer III 420mm AIO and a KtyoSheet. The upgrade was because the rig was too loud on the desktop with an EK 360mm AIO. It never crashed and temps in games were fine. My other i9 13900k rig did do the game crashing thing but I was using a Silverstone 360mm AIO. I replaced the Silverstone with a EK 360mm and no more crashing. This build is under a desk so it will not get the 420mm upgrade. The down side to the 420mm is that it did not fit in any of my mid tower cases so I bought an Lian Li 011 EVO XL. The XL is fantastic but pricy.

Roman from Der8auer tried his own Mycro Direct Die block on the 14900KS with liquid metal and it was performing really well

Update to the crashing 13th and 14th gen CPUs. I got both my 13900K and 14900KS chips running great on 360mm AIOs. Following Intel's advice and using some of their settings and some of my own, I'm running my 14900KS just fine except for another problem that nobody's talking about. I'm talking COD games and Blizzard. I set my CPU up to where its running at 5.9 to 6.0 on 8 P-Cores and 38 on the E-Cores because really don't need them for gaming, but still want them to run background things so didn't disable them. what I found is that Blizzard software will analyze your system settings when you try to boot up into a COD game and if it thinks your set up is not going to run the game you will get Direct Issue crashes over and over. Even though temps are perfect it might crash your game. What I did was rebooted into bios. Reset everything to stock and then went back and loaded up COD and it let me in the game because it accepted my stock settings. The Blizzard Software will remember that you successfully got into the game so that's when you go back into the bios and crank everything back up to where you want them. I'm talking about on the cutting edge. and then go back and boot into COD. It doesn't notice the change and will let you boot up your games. but it you crash due to high temps or an unstable overclock you will have to go back into bios and reset everything again to get back into the game. Just do it once and then you can start overclocking it again. I did it many times to figure it out and it works. I'm boosting to 6.2 gigs on several cores with a Kraken 360 mm radiator and temperatures are not exceeding 85C and that's only for a second or two then it comes back down. Note, I cannot run Cinebench and get all the way through but can run all COD games with no problem. Just don't push it too high and don't run all core. Run your cores by usage only. 6.1 6.0 6.0 5.9 etc. I have all the bios settings I use if anybody wants them that has a 14900KS or regular 14900K.

Funny, I just picked up a Mystique 360 and a 14900KS paired with the Z790 APEX and some DDR5 8000 ram. Took a little while, and some tuning, but I set an all core 5.9ghz, and a power cap on the short and long term duration to 275w. Games have been running great, even the ones that hit the shader comp hard. Before the cap, I was not crashing but I saw 340W of package power at 101c. INSANE. As far as the upload issue, I believe this issue is currently being worked on, keep an eye out for an update on the software!

To gain 10°C, you need to buy a water cooling system with 3 fans and a 240 radiator. You buy 3 additional fans and you will attach them above the radiator. These fans should bring fresh air directly onto the radiator from above. The other fans need to be reversed and set to exhaust the heat inside the machine. This will significantly increase the airflow, making the cooling more effective. The hot air sent inside the machine should be extracted by the front fans of the case towards the outside. With this method, I gained 10°C with a 120 water cooling system with 2 fans originally on my 9900X which went up to 97°C overclocked to 4700. It dropped to 87°C under heavy use and to 70°C in-game. Try this :)

That frozen notte at 60$ is a killer deal, that leaves you lotsa money to replace the fans with some nice noctuas and still be under the price of the Arctic. Plus maybe get some PTM7950 on there instead of paste.

Cache and v core are not equal. Tune the all core sync/ optimism slider and manually entered cooler score until under voltage protection engages w cache down bin. Then set max cache to this value without the undervolt protection. Then undervolt the higher core ratios till you reach best core ratio . Using v/ f set points 7-12

11:38 that snap back to business voice haha

In Europe Arctic Freezer 360 is on sale on their website for EUR 76,15 (non RGB) and the Thermalright is EUR 73. So I would probably just choose arctic :/

@framechasers, did you test the AIO's 100% out-of-the-box default settings, or did you configure a fan and pump curve?

I had a Thermalright Frozen Edge 360; cost $65 CAD. After having their Phantom Spirit 120 and seeing it destroy or be equal to a lot of 360 AIO's, I had to try it. Was very satisfied for a sub-$70 360mm AIO I have a P3 case so swapped it for a Liquid Freezer II 420, but overall highly recommend anything Thermalright

had an issue with my i9 14900k with a asus board. It would boost that thing to the MAX. constant thoteling and would heat up my room so fast. Ended up undervolting it and dropping the clock speeds a bit. No more heating. maintains a temp around 80-90 c full load and only minimal performance drop

My man, the more I've been watching alot of these KZfaqrs the more I see most of them are just frontin! They can't even keep it straight up from one episode to another. They must have some of these kids running out to buy what they're saying on one episode is the latest in greatest and then a few episodes later talkin shit about the same product they just pushed a like 5/6 episodes back. I never seen anything like it No pride whatsoever in what they're doin to consumer! It's so obvious a blind person can see this shit that they're sayin just whatever for that dollar coming in at the moment💩 Thanks alot for what you do and bein who you are. I'm glad I found your channel Where I know you say what you mean and stick by it!

Using the contact frame with an AIO on 13900K at 5.5GHZ "auto", my temps never go over 80C. So the stock ILM is garbage.

How would you say the Freezer III compares to the II in terms of intermittent load spikes like the Overwatch menu and so on?

Thank you for these videos. I gotta say that once I bought my new PC last year after watching gazillion reviews, all my interest to hardware stuff faded, which is natural. But your videos are just fantastic and your measurement methods are very well thought out and put together. Maybe, if you want, you can increase your production value to attract new viewers and/or customers - but this is definitely top notch.

I have the frozen notte, and it works perfectly fine, I do have a frame on mine from DerBauer, but it is not delidded. I see some spikes into the 85 range, not overclocked at the moment, just seeing if this motherboard can handle the new addition.

With all due respect a 420m-AIO is the only solution for these chips regardless of brand. Anything else is a waste of time.

This is the video I need, this things run sooo hot. Can't even launch dragons dogma and recompile shaders without hitting 100c. Have lowered my max to 90c by lowering my wattage to 200 though. Can't seem to control volts with my msi b760 tomahawk. Just has a offset for pcm or cpu + or - on each. Thinking I need to change it for a z790 and upgrade from my h100i capelix elite cooler, please let me know what you think. I'm used to my old 6900k with x99deluxe mobo, never got anywhere near these temps

Thanks for content!

SuperCool Direct Die with a Hardware Labs GTR 360 rad (HwL GTR series is the highest performance rad in the industry) with at least 3x Phanteks T30 fans, if not 6x (push/pull). With that setup, I've seen 14900K, not even KS, run Cinebench stable at 6.1 (or 6.2, can't remember) GHz all-core, e-cores OC'd high too, and with p-cores only in the 80-85 degree mark.

I just recently got the 14900ks. It is definitely a spicy cpu,but not totally unmanageable! In my tuning thus far I've found that I can keep the temps under control, even with Asus MCE enabled, so long as I set power limits in accordance with Intel's Extreme Power Profile. So, amps limited to 400 and watts limited to 320. Im using Corsair's H170i LCD Link in a push/pull config with QX fans. I experience thermal throttling after hitting 350+ watts. But seem to be ok within the 320 watt limit.

BRo that beard looks incredible gg

13th and 14th i9 users are having stability issues on stock settings. The issue seems to be caused by the silicon degrading over time. I guess pushing 250w plus on these chips will do that.

Great Review Jufes, really made my day keep up the great work.

I like this Video Format. AIO testing to chill the KS

Those are caseless test though, you need to put them in a case to get true consumer numbers

If I understood correctly, the thermal limits that Intel CPUs apply to 14900 are not working properly ... If they were , they will stop it from crashing ... Right ? Intel has gone nuts with voltage last couple of generations .

I’ve cooled my 13900ks with 280/360 LiquidFreezer II. No problems. Edit i used to play WZ too at the time without issues.

Would a 420mm AIO perform any better?

Have you tried the direct die EK Aio im debating in refunding mine as recent news has me worried it'll not make it through lol but its first durect die id be willing to try the 14900K even delidded liquid metaled and copper topped still has 20c+ difference between some P Cores.

The best 360 aio ?

You explained what the issue is way better than most articles I read about it. Am still on 12900KF but these issues kinda have me thinking of waiting to upgrade.

Well fuck. You just explained what's going on with my Arctic Freezer II 280 and 13600K.

I have a Frozen Prism 360 by Thermal right and it works great. Thermalright makes some of the best price to performance coolers. The Thermal Assissan X120 is the best budget air cooler for 125 watt or less CPUs.

can you please test lian li trinity perfomance ?

buy a 14900ks and down clock to a 14900k = win. Gotcha.

What about the Corsair ICUE LINK H150i LCD? Could it performance well?

but is it okey to have the voltage at 1.47V under these loads? I have a 14 900K too and sadly its crashing in unreal enginge games like fortnite tremendously but yeah the voltage questions interests me a lot, thanks for your video and would appreciate an answer for sure if you find the time!

Can you test the lian li performance aio please 🙏🏻 ❤

I burnt a KS already and on a LARGE rad, it no longer boots and crashes on stock bios

I've found r15 to be the tru cpu stability stress test; dunno why r23 workload seems so much more manageable and coolable compared to r23, but loads in 15 will cause a crash where 23 would run fine.

So I guess the AMD dip is not so bad after all

The Fans on the Freezer 3 are holding it back

if you lap it, wouldn't that create gaps in between your IHS and cold plate?

Wish you threw the EK Nucleus Lux/Dark/White 360 into the mix.

It reminds me RX Vega 56 & 64. Both were overclocked out of the box with too high voltage because they had to compete against 1080.

I am so happy to see @11:48 the real host appears. Here is Kitty.

The Frozen Notte for $60 is my choice. Cheap and does the job. Might change out one of my systems from air cool to it. Thanks!

deepcool silently released the ld360 aio that is a budget version of the mystique with the same pump.

Based on past videos, these chips “don’t scale past 5.1, 5.2ghz” so why run 6.0 I have upgraded from a 12th gen i9 to a 14th gen and turned it right down, disabled 1/2 the e cores. Now it uses no more than 150w and 80/90w in games. I tried, and you were right, very little difference as you turn the chip down….or up as you were doing in previous videos.

I like how he let them run for 33 mins. That’s a great 👍 number. See yall at the lodge

Someone needs to invent dice cooler with auto loader and auto mixer with little pump for aceton to cool this thing :) If dice would be enough, LN2 is not practical for every day usage :)

Are all of the radiators aluminum?

With the big GPU’s and thus bigger cases and also the enormous amount of cooling modern day CPU’s need I would really like to see 420mm aio’s compared. I feel like we’re at a point where 420mm should really be the go to for high end cpu’s

AMDip, Intelcrash?

Just tell me which bundle we need to buy 😂😂😂

im looking to build a new PC soon but i dont want to build a heater for the bedroom either, maybe i should go one step down from 14900k? worst case scenerio i could delid i guess

Using the EKWB AIO 360 Basic + thermalright ILM, I get 83c max with r23 ( 30mins run) and this is with an ambient temp of 27-28c

I installed my new 14900KS and Asus z790 Dark Hero few days ago. CPU has SP rating 109, P - SP 124 points and E - SP 81 points, MC - SP is 84 points. 7600MT/s seems doable on this Dark Hero motherboard (over 1 hour Karhu stable after one day tweaking). My goal is 8 hour Karhu stable. Maybe 7600MT/s isn't common for this motherboard? I've tweaked some primary, secondary and tertiary timings. I'm just torturing my AIO cooler some days before delidding CPU 😄

I'm not a fan of the Artic LF III, loved the LF II though... I kinda wish I didn't sell my DeepCool LT 720 for it, that thing minus the extra RGB cable, claims 300W TDP and kept it about 2-5C more cool than this. I think it's for the contact frame though rather than the actual cooler

Kitty at the end is always based!!

had a 14900ks couldnt even stay in the bios how unstable it was from 600 series board to 7. refunded that pos immediately 13600kf is just as good for 90% what people wanna do, wont bottle neck current GPUs the 5k series not counted as specs not available i dont think

Great info...

I been running a i9 12900k with some crashing issues

Try ek nucleus 360mm

The only AIO that has a chance is the EK Nucleus CR360 direct die, and that is unlikely to stand a long term test at full load. Even a custom loop will struggle, but my recently bought MoRa 420 with 4 x 200mm fans *will* cool it as water temperature is only 3C above ambient 🙂 Limit is then the DD waterblock.

Hair is looking good again broski

Best use for an RTX A2000 :3

And here I am, a few weeks before doing that big jump from 9900k to 13900k.

Shouldn't you show how to cool the bad boy? How about your custom water cooling setup? Does it cool it enough?

I always undervolt / optimize my voltages. 13700k at 5.3Ghz (stock boosts 2 cores to 5.4Ghz for an extra 0.060mv...). Thing sits at 80C on a 240mm Arctic Liquid Freezer at 70% fan speed in Cinebench.

No RGB fans is a positive if you ask me.

Some AIOs are tuned for Intel, pump direction matters too Intel should bundle cpu with AC and ear plug tho ;)

I've been using lian li galahad 360 and it's been pretty damn good imo

Package at 300W.

JPU...?

Not true / thermal compound vs Liquid Metal or soldering / the compound is under your integrated heat spreader when you chip jumps to 95c + it’s due to that

Woop woop

19:47 So cute, Lila right?

Doesn't come with ARGB fans? Isn't that a benefit?

Let's go!

I just don't see anyway around if you want the advertise speed and proper thermal with no thermal throttling on that cpu the only way seems to be thought direct die colling on a costume loop.

Useless CPU unless you put it under chiller or some exotic cooling. 14900K is far more manageable and shouldn't run unlimited power on that either. I have 14900K SP103+14900KF SP97 and 14900KS SP105 was the worst of them, throttling like crazy when power limited. Also required hefty voltage (+60mV) when compared all those chips at the same static clocks. Well, I like my Ryzen 7900 non-X 65W (actually ~88W)...

Just fine tune the Intel, then it is the best CPU monster out there. People just plug a cooler on a CPU with stock settings BIOS and then say it is running hot. So amateuristic. Learn your BIOS options, become professional, then you notice the 14900KS is the nicest jewel in the world to have. I myself have a 13700K and it is such a great CPU, not taking much energy, nor becoming very hot. Because I know BIOS options very well.

I think Arctic have bad contact and probably honeywell ptm7950 will do better instead of mx-6.

intel high end chips locking up but particularly on gigabyte boards - people would rather have amd at this point

Have you seen the "intel fail safe" setting in the new asus. Bios it slams upto 1.7v into the cpu 😂 thats criminal 😂😂

Literally why Intel made delidding them still within warrenty, Intel needs to stop pushing these chips just to barely compete with AMD. Gelsinger needs to start thinking outside of the box and not rely on power pushing.

Wow no way

#FrameChasers - Given how important this issue is across the nation at this time, PLEASE include time stamps, especially for the conclusion at the end of the video. - You should make this available to us on all your videos. - Please make sure to tell us very very clearly which one you suggest, since we honestly need advice and help. Thank you.

new high end intel chips have problems - people are returning them

I was debating selling my 10900k and Maximus Hero setup for either a 14900k or 13900k and Maximus Hero. However, between the errors happening in 13th gen and these hellscape like temps also present in 14th gen, I think I'll wait for my original plan when I bought the 4090 back at launch, and just go 5090 and 15th Gen with a Z890 Maximus Hero and top tier DDR5 since its now been out for a bit. I'll swap My 4090 for a 5090 later this year and then wait for that 15th gen for my 10900k Upgrade. I got a PG32UQX, so I'm not overly worried about the CPU since I'm in 4k, but I do want the best 1% lows I can get, and the better desktop experience is always nice! Edit: My 10900k @ 5.2ghz all core does still slay though..

Maaaaaan!!! Look at video from Talon's man he fix it finaly good job from both of you

Great channel bought built my first pc after watching your videos a few months ago :) Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360 keeps my AMD Ryzen 7 7700X @5,75GHZ under 75 celsius without making much noise/no crazy power draw ;o

Asus ProArt LC 420

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