15" MacBook Air: How much RAM do you REALLY Need?
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@MaxTechOfficial 11 ай бұрын
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@kreigerbailey3550 11 ай бұрын
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@chriscasillas 11 ай бұрын
Honestly...if you ever think you're going to transfer 117GB at one time, you wouldn't buy an Air in the first place. My base M2 Air has every document, Photoshop file, graphic, etc from our 10+ year old church on it and that adds up to less than 100GB. The base model is perfectly fine for 90-95% of users.
@robertelliottsr4566 11 ай бұрын
Even if you did have to transfer really large files, the single SSD is so much faster than old spinning drives. Even though it's a lot slower than a double SSD setup, it's much faster than old spinning drives. It's not that bad.
@ThundaAaAaAaAaAh 6 ай бұрын
You're right, I would buy cheaper laptop from any of their competitors that would still beat it
@usptact 11 ай бұрын
You underestimate people who will pay less and just patiently wait as the machine runs.
@imeann... 11 ай бұрын
These computers are so expensive in Brazil, they cost more than what I pay for medschool tuition every month, so base model is definitely the way to go for me
@myreviewdotcom 11 ай бұрын
MaxTech, now there is a time to compare 8/512 with 16/256 to find what exactly makes the difference in performance RAM or Storage.
@thabitpulak 11 ай бұрын
THIS. Ive been waiting to see someone on youtube do this.
@ahaimes6320 11 ай бұрын
He wont as it will show his whole agenda was wrong. I have seen that comparison on other channels and it proved that everyone should upgrade to 16GB of RAM rather than upgrading the storage.
@johnbreaker3874 11 ай бұрын
Ram basiclly is more important, when the ram is not enough to handle the system, it will use storage as temporary RAM, and lead to result of ded brick your macbook faster. storage, in the other hand does not affect the performance, but memory does. with bigger ram , you will get: - higher performance - lower chance get crash app - lower chance get crash system - longer lifespan of your laptop with bigger strorage: - store more data on your computer - longer lifespan as bigger SSD has longer lifespan it may depend on your work, but in this case, RAM always have higher priority. and you can use outsource storage like portable SSD, then everything will be just fine.
@myreviewdotcom 11 ай бұрын
@@johnbreaker3874 This is all clear to me the thing is how it works on Macbook.
@jhaby8313 11 ай бұрын
@@ahaimes6320 yep i've seen videos about that too and I would say if you wanna upgrade something go for ram and If you need extra storage just get a external ssd
@groupeone23 11 ай бұрын
Excellent and very helpful. One thing I STRONGLY recommend is to dedicate an external scratch (swap) drive for Photoshop, Illustrator, and Lightroom Classic. (You can appoint thus in the application preferences.) This can dramatically improve performance, especially with a good SSD, and help mitigate crashes. Make sure the scratch drive is used EXCLUSIVELY for this purpose only. You’ll notice the difference.
@mistamaog 11 ай бұрын
$1299 doesn't seem so bad for a 15 inch laptop, but only 8GB of RAM and 256GB of storage is too little. And they charge $200 to get double the ram and another $200 for double the storage 😭😭😭
@XSquibX 6 ай бұрын
@@mistamaog $1299 "Oh ,this sounds pretty great!" Apple: "Buy you're missing something.." "Oh, you're right... ram and ssd... oh, $1699.... well, I might as well look at the macbook pro for $1999... oh, but it could get even better $3600 "Wait... I just wanted an affordable laptop that runs mac os with a nice screen..............................."
@kwameryan 11 ай бұрын
Hey Maxtech! I know you guys read comments, so I just wanted to thank you for continuing to include the music professionals in your advice on new apple devices all the way down to a Macbook Air! It's such a help to those of us in the market for a device, wondering how much we absolutely need to spend. The broadly inclusive coverage for creatives is just awesome. 😊👍🏾
@AnastasTarpanov 11 ай бұрын
Just got yesterday the basic 15" Macbook Air for my wife and she is very happy to upgrade from the 2018 13" Macbook Air. I'm very impressed with the machine it feels great in the hands, it's impossibly thin and the sound is great for this tiny chassis and lack of front-facing speakers. I'm using a 16" M1 MBP, but for a lot of travel and work on the move the 15" MBA is a great machine even for professionals if you upgrade the ram and the SSD. Sadly for the upgraded configuration here we needed to wait at least 6 weeks, so decide to go with the basic machine.
@CorneliusCreations 11 ай бұрын
Max, you always answer the exact questions I have with real-world testing. Another A+ video. Thank you!
@PerpetualPreponderer 11 ай бұрын
Could you do the same comparison with a base model vs 16gb-256gb model please. This current video we can't tell if the performance differences are due to more RAM or faster SSD read/write?
@mvinci500 11 ай бұрын
I was going to pose the same question!
@Julianw. 11 ай бұрын
Yes, please!
@cylui 11 ай бұрын
Yes agree! But very likely gonna be SSD playing a bigger factor than RAM
@Julianw. 11 ай бұрын
@@cylui bruh its the opposite
@sinlokemp 11 ай бұрын
Yes Please. I just ordered a 16Gb/ 256 Storage mac Mini m2 Version since i wan to keep external M.2 1 TB for storage.
@haoyuwang3243 11 ай бұрын
this is just not a fair comparison. To make the conclusion you will need to compare 8g/512g with 16g/256g.
@jaboobins_ 11 ай бұрын
I got the 16gb 512ssd version. It’s definitely worth the upgrade if you want to have this for a long time
@ronalcasid3844 11 ай бұрын
The recommendation to upgrade the SSD over RAM contradicts what was just demonstrated. If you could only do one, upgrade the RAM. Sure the upgraded SSD is twice as fast as the base but no where as fast as more RAM. Swap memory will always be slower. Ideally you should do both. Apple should offer a SKU with 16/512 GB that costs less than upgrading the base configuration.
@mbvglider 11 ай бұрын
The reason why many people (including me) recommend SSD over RAM is because base M1 MacBook w/ 8/256 config didn't have as many of these issues running mid-level workloads, whereas base M2 MacBooks do. That means either 8/512 or 16/256 will probably make the M2 run OK for mid-level workloads, and the two configs cost the same. I don't consider the machine really suited to run heavy workloads anyway, so at that point, I'd rather have more SSD, which I would notice 100% of the time, rather than more RAM, which I would only notice when I'm doing more than light work, which isn't that often on my personal laptop. It's not just about performance; 256 GB SSD is just really hard to deal with for me. The only people who really notice the lack of RAM are the people who will push their computers a little bit, and those people tend to need space as well. That's personally why I'd upgrade SSD first.
@kerrydaniels8460 11 ай бұрын
Then you wouldn't buy the model up. They purposefully do this to get you to buy the next model up. Which I will be doing, but not at my expense. I don't let them rip me off like that. I let them rip "someone else" off and then buy it for what it should have been in the first place. Patience pays off.
@connorlearmonth665 11 ай бұрын
16/512 should be the base model in 2023
@Etienne85 11 ай бұрын
@@mbvglider have you considered SSD wearing? I think avoiding swap with RAM is better to preserve SSD while hopefully keeping system fast. This is my opinion based on my own experience with M1 base model where usually I see 40-80GB per day!
@CelebrityLyrics 11 ай бұрын
So most people should get 256GB SSD and 16GB memory
@OO7JAMS 11 ай бұрын
Great Video 😊 Would be great to test 2 x 256GB models with 1 x 8gb vs other on 16gb and run the same tests. In some countries the Ram upgrade is cheaper than SSD upgrade. Much appreciated.
@AdiGsH 11 ай бұрын
please compare M2 8/512 vs 16/256 Because I'm curious what gives a better effect
@panzer_TZ 11 ай бұрын
ArtIsRight did such a comparison, spoiler he picks RAM: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j7GCgpBlp8--on0.html
@kerrydaniels8460 11 ай бұрын
I work in the field. Pick the RAM if you're questioning it at all. Storage isn't gonna matter as much over RAM for 99.99999999999% of users.
@kerrydaniels8460 11 ай бұрын
S W If you're after better value/performance go RAM instead of storage. Video us clickbaity. Day to day you won't really notice the differences at all with the storage upgrade. Just get an external SSD instead for that and save a crapload of money. RAM can't be upgraded down the line like storage can. It also opens up a ton more abilities like being able to run windows if you ever needed to and mac os at the same time. It also makes your mac last twice as long as updates mean more and more RAM is generally needed. Another benefit is RAM actually helps preserve your SSD. Just go with the RAM if you're going to upgrade at all.
@kuroneko9710 9 ай бұрын
RAM does. By default. No need to test it. But if you really need to get max productivity without excessive spending buy 16Gb RAM + 512Gb SSD. 256Gb SSD on M2 model has only one memory chip and tests show that 512Gb SSD is twice as fast. Plus a 512GB SSD will serve you twice as long. And this is very important because when internal SSD fails it turns you Mac Book into a brick. You simply can't start up your Mac Book from external drives. The only way to use it again is to replace the internal SSD.
@cherylelinsmith743 11 ай бұрын
Great video for those people who have never worked on a computer, or a laptop. I used to have a website, and build my own webpages, so know how important gigs of ram and SSD storage. Better to future proof laptop with better ram and storage.
@alohakeithb 11 ай бұрын
I don't know if its possible but I'd love to see a comparison of the base model and one with 8gb RAM and a 512 disk (which is what I have) or 16gb ram and the 256 drive so you could clearly see which is worth one upgrade, the RAM or the SSD?
@kasziel 11 ай бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j7GCgpBlp8--on0.html this is quite exhaustive. The 16/256 comes out better in almost all tests
@BobbyG3.14 11 ай бұрын
this right here!
@danielkhvan8467 11 ай бұрын
Me toooooooo!
@tsetannamgyal 11 ай бұрын
i would love to see this comparison as well!
@josephelibert2464 11 ай бұрын
That’s exactly what I’m talking about 👍🏾
@JoshF848 11 ай бұрын
This single issue makes the original M1 Air still a good option for many people. Even at the same 8/256 configuration it still manages to feel fast almost all of the time in casual use. That + the price difference could outweigh the advantages that the upgraded newer Airs bring
@ahaimes6320 11 ай бұрын
The current MB Air M2s have come down in price as well and have been £200 off at times in the UK. So I would def not buy the 2.5 year old MB Air M1 even at $800 as it is showing its age. Still a great device if you own it though.
@JoshF848 11 ай бұрын
@@ahaimes6320 the point though is that the newer M2s at the base SSD level are, if anything, more likely to feel slow under heavy workloads than the M1 which had much faster SSD speeds
@Brad-cb2dt 11 ай бұрын
It would be nice to see a 3rd model in this comparison, that being one with 8GB RAM and 512GB storage. This would give a clear picture as to the benefits increased speeds for swap with the faster SSD separate from an increase in RAM. Though a 4th model (16GB / 256GB) might be nice too, we would already be able to see how much slow down using swap would cause with only 3 models. You would probably just see some of those effects a bit later on with the 4th model since there will be less RAM pressure. For those who didn’t know, swap isn’t exactly something that’s completely avoidable, even though it can technically be disabled in some operating systems. Some programs actually require swap to be enabled to run properly (or even to run at all) regardless of how much RAM you have. Judging by some programs not working entire with swap disabled, I might presume it’s used to prevent issues and/or recover from unexpected shutdowns. Not exactly sure why those programs can’t just write to the boot drive in the traditional sense as an alternative, but programs that will crash when swap is disabled do in fact exist.
@ahaimes6320 11 ай бұрын
I have seen this on another channel and the clear conclusion is that 16GB/256GB is far better than 8GB/512GB, and blows thios channels misconceptions into dust. There is a reason he never does that test!
@Brad-cb2dt 11 ай бұрын
@@ahaimes6320 With the M1 or the M2? With the M1 it would be absolutely no contest for sure. I’m not saying SSD swap is comparable to RAM. It’s certainly not. It’s mostly about the 256GB SSD on the M2 which is half the speed of all the other SSDs in Apple’s lineup, including the 256GB SSD on the M1. For most it’s a non issue, but for the poor college students getting started with more professional work, the base model M1 out performs the base model M2 in many tasks based on the SSD speed alone. Also you WILL hit SSD swap regardless of RAM unless you manually disable it (which can be problematic for some applications). So a comparison with 2 8GB models (256GB and 512GB) can still help you decide which SSD size you want on a 16GB model. RAM is clearly better day to day, but how much will the 256GB SSD hold you back vs the 512GB once you hit swap. Especially when the M1 doesn’t have that drawback for much less money (often $800 Vs the M2’s $1200, now $1100)
@ahaimes6320 11 ай бұрын
@@Brad-cb2dt It is really simple. If you do RAM-intensive stuff upgrade to more RAM and there will be minimal issues. Consumers have to take responsibility for their buying choices and stop complaining if they make a mistake. $200 extra for 16GB of RAM over 5-7 years seems like a no-brainer investment!
@Brad-cb2dt 11 ай бұрын
@@ahaimes6320 Glad you think so. Nothing wrong with that. I just think more information is always better. SSD speeds are still a factor in performance even outside of file transfer speeds. RAM is always faster, yes, but a slow ssd can still bottleneck performance, it’ll just hit you later the more RAM you have. How hard it hits you will differ between the 256GB and a 512GB SSD. If your laptop purchase makes you money, by all means spend more. In fact, you should probably consider a MacBook Pro at that point. But if your laptop purchase won’t be making you much or any money, that’s where SSD speeds are going to worth considering. Do you want a taller bottle (more Ram) or a wider bottleneck (faster SSD)? Or do you want perhaps both?
@fbelard 6 ай бұрын
They seem to be flooding the market with the 8GB modelsm it's kind of insulting. I was incredibly lucky to get a 16gb/256 that had just been returned 6 months ago and I couldn't be happier. I even manage to do some lightweight ML generation with stable diffusion (that and virtualization are the only things that make it heat up), which I wouldn't risk on 8gb. Yes, I have to manage my hard drive, but for 400-500 euros under list price (1700€) I can't complain.
@rtehcs000 6 ай бұрын
I’m new to Mac, 4 days with the 15” air and I thought something was wrong with it because of the noticeable lag. I’m using it for studying, browsing, KZfaq and just Office so far and I’m regretting not upgrading already. I did a bit of research but I’m kicking myself for finding this vid too late.
@Adamulik 6 ай бұрын
This was extremely helpful. Thank you very much ! Great work
@BoatWichayu 11 ай бұрын
This is very helpful and great testing, thank you so much
@carolinelvsewe 11 ай бұрын
As a non techie who watches …THIS was very helpful. Thank you
@miguelitosanchez1214 11 ай бұрын
This was very informative! How about a vid of a 16GB 256GB MBA vs a 8GB 512GB MBA?
@chandleradaway 11 ай бұрын
Would really love this test with the MBP and 16gb vs 32gb!
@colicchiafamily6181 6 ай бұрын
fantastic video 🙌 you answered my question perfectly 🙏🏼 thanks for your effort
@movdqa 11 ай бұрын
If you're buying a low-end M1 or M2 device, the performance won't probably make that much of a difference. My wife has a 2018 Mac mini base model and the SSD speed is 600 MBPS as per a Reddit post. The CPU is quite a bit slower (it's an i3) and I'd expect the RAM to be a lot slower. Every year I ask her if she wants an upgrade and she declines. She does web browsing, and editing documents. She typically has 3-5 tabs open. Now I could upgrade the RAM on the old mini but she doesn't seem to be interested. I would guess that there are a lot of people like her that just use their Macs casually where a base Apple Silicon would be a big upgrade from their Intel Macs. Apple sold a ton of Intel MacBook Airs over the past 12 years and those specs are what I consider awful but they work for a lot of people.
@gnes04 4 ай бұрын
I have the base M1 air and it's plenty fast for my use cases, which is mostly development. It can run chrome, VSCode, Docker, Spotify, and maybe one or two more all at the same time with no problem. I even play CSGO occasionally, it's not super smooth but definitely playable. If you're on a budget I'd say absolutely go for the base model. Sure you might get stuff done a smidge faster with more RAM, but you'll still have a smooth experience with no choppiness or lag or anything. The swap memory is also very fast and almost unnoticeable.
@mateuszk7758 10 ай бұрын
Hi, I'm currently considering which MacBook to choose, and I wanted to ask you which one, in your opinion, would be a better choice. The new MacBook 15 Air with M2, 16GB RAM, and 256GB SSD. A used MacBook Pro 16 with M1, 16GB RAM, and 512GB SSD. I mainly intend to use it for photography, editing images in programs like Photoshop, Lightroom, Capture One, and for live photo previews, internet browsing, and working with text documents. I should note that I don't edit a large number of photos in my workflow, just small sessions. The MacBook Air 15 with M2 is appealing to me due to its lighter weight and greater mobility, as well as its long battery life. However, the price is quite high, so I would probably go with 16 GB RAM and 256 GB SSD to keep costs down. On the other hand, a used MacBook Pro 16 with M1 would offer a larger 512 GB SSD and 16 GB RAM. It has a better display, speakers, an SD card reader, and an HDMI port. Unfortunately, it is considerably heavier and bulkier, which might make typing and carrying it around less convenient compared to the Air 15 with M2. I would be very grateful for your response.
@markanthonyart 10 ай бұрын
Nice description and tests. Subscribed!
@ahaimes6320 11 ай бұрын
As many YT creators have said, if you can only buy one upgrade, 100% get the extra RAM. You can always use external storage and for most ultrabook use, you do not need fast sequential SSD speeds. If you are a pro or semi-pro then you would start at 1TB and maybe 24GB of RAM. Do not buy storage instead of RAM as you are stuck with what RAM you buy until you upgrade.
@panzer_TZ 11 ай бұрын
ArtIsRight did such a comparison, spoiler he picks RAM: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j7GCgpBlp8--on0.html
@sarthak1317 11 ай бұрын
Quoting dave2d I see
@denisshmaytser4706 11 ай бұрын
I think most people dont want to depend on external storage every time they use the laptop, since it will also kill the purpose of this being very light and portable device . For family and friends I would actually recommend to upgrade the storage, and if they need the extra ram then its probably a better idea to get the 14 inch mbp
@mbvglider 11 ай бұрын
Most people do not edit videos or push their computers that hard. 8 GB is fine for having 500+ tabs open as long as you have fast swap storage, which is as much as the average person does with their computer. Many users would see no benefit from 16 GB but still enjoy more space on their computer. Just by being a KZfaqr, their opinions are slanted.
@web 11 ай бұрын
This is some basement nerd recommendation. People who actually use devices on the go would be ok with just dual SSD chip (512Gb) config. You can always close tabs, you know
@TheSterlingArcher16 11 ай бұрын
A decade ago I bought a Retina MacBook Pro with 8GB ram & a 256GB SSD. Flash-forward to 2023 and the new MacBook Air comes with… 8GB ram & 256GB SSD for the same price.
@zerokool-2058 11 ай бұрын
I’ll be using it for KZfaq, streaming, google docs, Netflix, and stuff like that. With also having a few safari tabs open.
@ryansgr8 11 ай бұрын
If you’re thinking about upgrades for MBA then you may as well just go for the MBP 14”
@mattbonnell7023 10 ай бұрын
Great vid. Trying to decide which MacBook Air to buy and this was extremely helpful!
@Dameworth 11 ай бұрын
I hate how apple does this on purpose because 99% of its customers will never know this difference.
@ch3vr0n123 11 ай бұрын
now they know
@remiranda 11 ай бұрын
You hate that people didn’t have to pay more for something they won’t even care?
@rahulvelaga8209 11 ай бұрын
Well thats the whole point😢
@ch3vr0n123 11 ай бұрын
@@remiranda upto 7x worse performance, i would love to know about it. thats the reason i dont have mac anymore, asus rog zep 14 2022 for less than $ 1000 does better job for bugs 24GB ram 1TB + 6700M
@SinghalRishi27 11 ай бұрын
i have 8gb and 16gb ram version i see differnce everyday
@sheeshgamerz2263 11 ай бұрын
such an informative video, thx max
@dg5274 11 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed your video. Discovered your channel today. Picked up the 15” MacBook Air and I have to know how to get the animated wallpapers on the two MacBooks in your video?
@Victor-ym9fo 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for this very useful video
@ThatGuyyyyy 11 ай бұрын
Honestly, I never really noticed any slow performance with my wife’s base M2 MacBook Air during travel with web browsing and stuff, even with Chrome. I personally got 14” MBP for home and 16” for office, but I think for most people, base config of MBA is just fine even with slower SSD.
@leebeeskee 11 ай бұрын
Max Tech love click bait and making mountains out of mole hills for shock value
@j3m03d3r666 11 ай бұрын
Oh no. My webpage didn’t load instantly but I had to wait a whole 0,5 second. 😂
@kuroneko9710 9 ай бұрын
Lately any computer on the market is good enough for "web browsing and stuff". For such tasks you can buy an entry level notebook for just about $400.
@GoldenBarter 11 ай бұрын
Great testing. Thanks for the video. I would like to suggest makiing a video about the best and last intel laptop vs the newer m series laptops. Day to day how big of a difference is it?
@ichirofakename Ай бұрын
Thanks for this excellent real-world demo.
@lourdesvandrews1406 8 ай бұрын
good info great. stuff thnx
@robertoavalosjr.2529 11 ай бұрын
Hey max! Could you do an updated video on parallels running on this latest computers? I’m exited to see how it performs
@dccoletrain 11 ай бұрын
I’m old enough to remember dial up internet… you kids and your 30 tabs
@DMProductions 11 ай бұрын
Once you upgrade the storage and the ram you are very close in price to the 16inch MacBook Pro m2 which is better in several ways ?
@ashjcoronado 11 ай бұрын
For me I’d upgrade the storage first and then the RAM, if I could only do one definitely storage for me… never had any issues with the M1 MacBook Air base with 8GB of memory even doing some batch photo editing and having a bunch of apps open at once, guess the SSD’s are fast enough that even if the machine runs out of memory and has to swap user wouldn’t notice much of a difference.
@dorinai 8 ай бұрын
I ordered the 15 inch Air in Space Grey with 16GB Unified Memory and 1TB ssd. It'll serve me well for computer sceince and programming tasks
@beaumac 11 ай бұрын
Finally a comparison video I care about. 99% of people don't need a pro laptop. But we do care about ram as it can help when we have 428 chrome tabs open.
@smarterphone6863 11 ай бұрын
Strange number😂 but you are right, 99.99% don't need a pro mac
@tomaszj.9741 11 ай бұрын
This video shows exactly the good things, finally someone tested it properly. 8gb 256gb is just not enough for anything these days, this should be 16gb 512gb base model and Pro model should be 32gb base.
@pweddy1 11 ай бұрын
428? No, no... Only 415! 😅
@will-zj5gq 11 ай бұрын
@@tomaszj.9741but it is enough that’s why it sells like crazy
@loconius 11 ай бұрын
Ram also has an affect on hard drive performance as that’s where the data goes when going through the bus. The 512 has double the ram so the SSD performance in these tests will be affected by that.
@edchow 11 ай бұрын
Nice video! One thing I never hear anyone address is what is the impact of wear-leveling on the SSD if you have a high swap rate? Not an issue if you plan on upgrading frequently, but if you want to keep your laptop for 4+ years this could be an issue.
@FabioVisentin7 11 ай бұрын
120tbw is roughly 65gb per day on 5 year warranty period and that is the 256 gb base SSD if you have more ram and power user means bigger swap file sometimes on 16 gb ram you have 40 gb swap if you work.with big projects
@kuroneko9710 9 ай бұрын
@@FabioVisentin7 For a 256Gb SSD the rated lifespan will be about 150TBW not 120TBW. However this does not mean that your SSD will fail after 150TBW limit is reached. The lifespan of an SSD depends on many various factors. Your SSD can fail even before the rated TBW limit is written to it or successfully work for several years after this limit is surpassed. Besides if you have 16Gb RAM or more and don't do something really demanding there may be no need for a swap file on disk at all. With 8Gb RAM swapping to disk is almost inevitable even when doing relatively simple tasks. And one remark more. Mac Book Air was never intended to be your main tool for big projects. Be realistic! Don't even try to replace a truck with a bicycle...
@georgezavala233 4 ай бұрын
I really needed this video, I got the 2023 air 15” 8gb 256gb coming in the mail in 5 days I financed it so I payed 1500. I wish I got the 16gb 512gb but it’s just to get my foot in the door for now with school/music etc. thank you for the video 🙌
@riorecchia 11 ай бұрын
Great video but as previous videos we can't see the results of each upgrade individually. You are comparing a base model with two upgrades. It would be great to add a 8gb with 512 and compare all three. Then we'll know which upgrade is worth it
@kerrydaniels8460 11 ай бұрын
RAM is the more important upgrade. Without even needing to watch the vid or do tests there is no test that will beat RAM in speed and those that need to ask won't need to get ripped off on the storage cost. Just buy external at a fraction of the cost. Which you should have anyhow for backups at minimum since your SSD **WILL FAIL** at some point. These types of channels are very clickbaity btw. It is typically best to find folks that aren't so clickbaity for more sound info. They're entertaining though, but they mostly only know about video editing which most folks won't do anyhow. I work in the field. Go with 16GB of RAM if you want to upgrade. You can always add more fast storage. You can't retroactively add RAM.
@77dris 11 ай бұрын
@@kerrydaniels8460 Max Tech is the best when it comes to reviews like this and I don't see much "clickbait" in that title. In fact ,none at all.
@77dris 11 ай бұрын
They do a lot of tests already. To buy a mac for every single little upgrade would be huge $$$. They actually do comparisons with only memory or only SSD on other M2 reviews and you can extract from that.
@maestroteague 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, I would be interested to see how 256GB with 16GB RAM compares. That's the configuration that I ordered and am waiting on. Then have also ordered an external SSD with thunderbolt enclosure - 2TB of extra storage for less than going from 256 to 512GB, and at speeds that are as fast or faster than the internal SSD.
@kuroneko9710 9 ай бұрын
@@kerrydaniels8460 Also keep in mind that 512Gb SSD will last you twice as long as 256Gb SSD by default.
@extremelucky1 11 ай бұрын
For basic use the base model is completely fine. If you are doing anything intensive, you shouldn’t buy Air anyway since its fan less.
@ANGERINSIDE 11 ай бұрын
I purchased a 15 inch macbook air with 512gb. I started doing a small video project in Final Cut and the machine was very disappointing. It was doing the loading circle and getting warm while I was adding the video on the timeline. It was ridiculous. I can understand it getting warm while editing for a long time because it doesn’t have any fans but also while only adding the project on a time line? I returned it and got a 16 inch m1 max for almost $1000 off at best buy. That Macbook Air is not worth the price for what it does.
@utubekullanicisi 11 ай бұрын
11:01 Those configs were organized the same way when the 256GB model wasn't slower on the M1 MacBook Air.
@vladcode 11 ай бұрын
How does the 15 inch MacBook Air M2 24ram vs 16 inch MacBook Pro 16ram compare? I don’t want to waste 2,500 on a MacBook Pro 16 inch if I can get the air for 700 less. Also, I’m mostly leaning towards the 16 inch Pro for the screen/display quality. And wasn’t sure if 16 ram is enough? This will be my main computer. Heaviest workflow I will do is editing home videos for family and maybe some light league of legends or RuneScape gaming. I wasn’t sure if I’m overkilling it with the 16 Pro if I can get 15 Air with more RAM and save $700 and maybe get a decent 4k display? Or is 15 Air 15ram 512gb good enough? Saves me like $1,000
@alextgordon 11 ай бұрын
What your RAM says about you: 8GB = "I don't care how fast this is, I just wanted a Mac to play Wordle on, I don't intend to keep this machine more than a couple of years more when it will be obsolete". 16GB = "I'm a regular user who likes to have a few apps or browser tabs open and multitask". 24GB+ = "I'm buying this for work and I don't care how much it costs"
@a_ricart 11 ай бұрын
Thank you. And agree, can you do the comparison between the 8g and 16g, 256 go models
@mole1596 11 ай бұрын
My M1 Air is awesome but the only thing I regret is not getting 16GB RAM instead of 8GB, and just like here I'm only using 10-20 browsing tabs, Slack, and a simple photo editor (not Photoshop). So, if you do any pro work on your laptop (I'm a tech writer), go for 16GB RAM, and if you also need more storage, then you might be better off with a MacBook Pro.
@markhollis5850 11 ай бұрын
When General Motors introduced the Chevrolet Vega, they introduced it with an optional back seat. They did this for several reasons. We were in the middle of a gas crunch, so not having a back seat saved on weight and fuel. And, GM was trying to keep the cost of the car low so that they could compete with the cheaper foreign subcompacts. In all ads for the Vega, they showed the EPA mileage for the car with no back seat, but they always advertised the car with someone sitting in the back seat. I think that Apple is doing the same thing here. They have made a laptop that is limited as to performance and the performance they are quoting is a fully-loaded laptop. Getting the base model is “buying a Vega with an optional back seat.” And there is no upgrade. Pay more for your computer and you will get one that functions well. Frankly, I would not purchase a computer with under 1TB of storage and if you want to “future-proof” your laptop, you should buy 2TB of internal storage or else plan to have to carry around an external SSD wherever you go. I purchased my wife an M1 13” laptop. I paid the “Apple tax” for a 2TB SSD and maxed out the RAM. The computer seldom shows the Spinning Beachball of Death and works great and will work for some years to come. Yes, I paid more than, perhaps, I ought to have paid for the computer. But it stores all of my wife’s files internally. She will not be wondering which external SSD she put that document on. She won’t have to constantly offload stuff to make sure that she does not run out of room on the internal SSD. I would never have bought my wife a Vega with no back seat.
@ashwinisharma6819 3 ай бұрын
I’m a student, What if I only updated the RAM to 16 gb with 256gb SSD.. will it perform better than the base version?
@AliSAyach 11 ай бұрын
This is still not a test for the average user. Macbook Air users do not export large files everyday while working. That introduces a sustained workload on CPU for several minutes, which is not what the machine is designed to do. Macbook airs are designed for alot of short bursty CPU loads (like loading a chrome tab). A real life test would be only comparing 50 chrome tabs with each other, without other churning software running in the background. Then you wouldn’t see much of a difference.
@valeriemanners7796 11 ай бұрын
I'm staying with M1 Air 8/256 purchased new for $799. It's a no brainer.
@bruhboy5570 11 ай бұрын
Could You compare the 13 inch macbook air with 10-core gpu 8gb RAM 256gb unified memory with the base model 15 inch macbook air as i am confused which one to buy
@geps7393 11 ай бұрын
is the macbook air 15 16/512 only good for programming or is the pro 14 always better with the same specifications? Thank you
@frankmanzhu 11 ай бұрын
If upgrade both, then it's better just go for the 14 inch macbook pro. One upgrade, it has to go for the RAM as all of your Safari tests are testing out of the RAM capacity vs hotswap like 30 tabs open, multiple programs open etc. But your end recommendation storage over RAM is shocking.
@jasonedenilson 11 ай бұрын
So I have a 2016 15 inch i7 MBP and I was really looking forward to the new 15 inch air, obviously for the speed bump of the new M2 chip, but I was let down when I started to do research and found that the screen resolution and quality is pretty much the exact same as my 7 year old MBP. Obviously I’d have to upgrade to the current Pro but I’m finding the 14 inch small and the 16 inch too big and heavy😅wish they just made a 15 inch pro
@zanerichter3806 11 ай бұрын
But which makes a bigger difference, the extra RAM or having two built-in SSD chips?
@ckostyn 11 ай бұрын
I am an amateur musician, and I do record individual pieces - usually just instrumentals and use software like OBS Studio and also live on Zoom. I'm currently walking away from Windows 11 because of the notorious problems it tends to have with this. I will purchase a MacAir M2. I wouldn't be exporting long videos, but I need it to work when I need it. Would I really notice a difference with the 16gb model? My assumption is yes, but am curious.
@keesswier212 11 ай бұрын
Is 24GB ram recommended if you use AutoCAD with Parallels Desktop if you use this MacBook Air?
@tomm3218 11 ай бұрын
Great video Max. Would love to see base model vs 16/256 using parallels and Win 11.
@FranciscoB 11 ай бұрын
or using windows 11 in VMware would be interesting
@pooriakhosravi9415 11 ай бұрын
It’s basically the same results because in 16 you are not using swap
@FranciscoB 11 ай бұрын
@@pooriakhosravi9415 Thanx for the answer, Is there a difference to run a virtual machine with an MacBook air M2 of 8gb of ram to another one of 16gb? Is there a lot of difference?
@whateverinbetween9444 11 ай бұрын
pls do one more about ram on this machine with 300 tabs on safari or chrome, no need to keep them all stay open but i need to know the responsiveness of the machine between 8, 16 and 24 GB ram before i buy it. currently i have more than 300 safari tabs open on my ipad pro m1 8GB ram with a lot of other apps running at the same time. but ipad os works differently than mac os so i need you to test that out. i'm planning to switch my ipad for a macbook, cause my work flow has changed. i'm doing research so i would love to keep a lots of tabs open in different windows and other apps like spotify, notion, message, apple note, final cut, illustration and more open in the background. im constantly switching between them.
@denniszenanywhere 11 ай бұрын
I never liked the comparisons you do but this - whether you’re right or wrong - is good as you are making a stand.
@mkleng 11 ай бұрын
Holy shit!! That’s a massive improve to upgrade!!! Imagine how much more it can do if upgrade to 1TB and 32 RAM
@zerokool-2058 11 ай бұрын
So is it worth it to just get the MBP 14 inch based model or the MBA 15 inch with 16gb and 500 ssd?? Which one.
@yeasirmahmudanik6477 11 ай бұрын
Can I know which software you are using for the CPU, GPU, and Ssd usage meter showing on the bar ?
@charvlim5159 6 ай бұрын
Which one to get? The bAsE still..whY? Chances are when you go for a macbook is that you already have a very capable ipad and/or iphone(smartphone) which takes care of the “multitasking” that seem to make the base model slower.
@Josemgg84 8 ай бұрын
How about working on Google Chrome with Google suite that demands tons of RAM and need to open a lot of tabs for Slides, sheets etc ¿which one set up you recommend the most?
@dwarfcow 11 ай бұрын
The best part of these kinds of comparisons is how that extra 8gb of ddr5/6 ram is only like $25 cost to apple, and the cost of 4tb of tlc memory with controllers is only around $90
@xxBahamutxx95 11 ай бұрын
Hi MaxTech. Awesome video as always. Very thorough and easy to understand. I have a question. I am a very general user. Sometimes do light financial modelling in my laptop. Which of the two model is more future-proof? Because my last laptop is a Windows laptop and it lasted for almost 10 years, to give you an image of how do I use my laptop. Thanks.
@guillaumeg.5821 3 ай бұрын
I would say, if you intend to keep your device for few years it would I suspect 16gb of Ram would insure your laptop to continue to run smoothly as Os and programs intend to become more demanding with time. Not to mention that for sure at some point 16gb will become the standard for Apple and they'll make sure you'll suffer from your 8mb by updating their OS accordingly, to push you buying a newer model. Understand not all can afford the 16/512 but it really looks like a long(er) term investment than anything with 8gb of Ram
@kraigbailey 11 ай бұрын
I beg to differ. You should increase the RAM to 16gb because it can never be upgraded and you can always use an external SSD to add speedy, inexpensive external storage.
@pkennethv 11 ай бұрын
External storage doesn't help with slow swap memory (although, of course, yes, the need for use of swap memory would be mitigated somewhat by having more RAM to begin with). To be clear, I'm not necessarily disagreeing with the idea that maybe RAM upgrade should be prioritized over storage update. I'm just pointing out to others that external storage isn't fully equivalent to upgrading the internal SSD from a performance standpoint (convenience factor aside)
@connorscars 11 ай бұрын
What software do you use to have the CPU, GPU and Temperatures in the tool bar??
@youarecorrectiamwrongbecau1338 11 ай бұрын
And finally the last video everyone's been asking for *_Macbook Pro 14 M1 Pro (base) vs Macbook Air 15 (16/512)_*
@kasziel 11 ай бұрын
Who? We all know the pro is going to kill the air.
@clintmallon 5 ай бұрын
Hey! Love the videos and have been a subscriber for a while now. What Menu Bar app do you use to show the CPU/GPU and Temperature? I would really appreciate it.
@TechDove 11 ай бұрын
A notch on a laptop is inexcusable, especially since the only thing in that notch is a single 1080p webcam, personally I don't care about having a little bezel
@minuszero332 11 ай бұрын
I got an 8/512 model from Costco for the price of base model so that should be pretty good
@alanabley525 5 ай бұрын
I'm set on 16mb of Ram but using external ssd drives does it matter sticking to 256gb hard drive? Is it still important to go for 512GB? Thank you.
@natetsh 11 ай бұрын
All I see in this video is that the base model is not for impatient people but still great.
@super_mr_unknown 11 ай бұрын
I am a web programmer, and I can say that if you want comfortable work you need minimum 24gb ram. Especially if you will work with microservices architecture. Only docker and 3-5 open ide windows its already 15gb, then you need browser and database explorer like dbeaver. So calculate yourself. If your computer always will be use swap it will be works slower and slower and after 3 days you will be need restart it and start again all your work environment from scratch.
@tanthokg 11 ай бұрын
True, my friend has a M1 Air with 16GB, and he constantly uses more than 20GB of swaps all the time
@nandocame620 10 ай бұрын
HD upgrade or 16GB RAM better?
@willkid123 11 ай бұрын
Please compare it to the 2019 MacBook Pro 16’ - a lot of us still have the intel models. I’ve been thinking of trading mine in and applying the credit to the MacBook Air 15’ with 16gb of ram.
@donhess4757 11 ай бұрын
I just experienced a 2019 MacBook Pro 16" (16/512GB i7) for several weeks before ordering a new 15" Air (16/512GB). The only thing I think is better on the 2019 16" Pro is the speakers, otherwise the MBAir is a far superior machine with a CPU that will last and be supported by Apple well in to the future. Screen quality is slightly better on the Air, but this may be subjective somewhat (they both have same 500 NITs of brightness). SSD speeds are the same. RAM speed is greater on the Air. No TouchBar on the Air. Keyboard quality is the same. Air is MUCH more portable and quiet. Did I mention that the Air is fan-less and thus basically silent? If you are used to the 16" screen size, then dropping down to 15" won't be a shock at all and you might not notice it after awhile but if you chose the 14" MB Pro you definitely would notice that. But, if you have the money and really need the processing power more so than portability, go for the 16" MB Pro (M1 or M2 Pro) but it is a heavier beast than the 2019.
@swarankumarm2590 8 ай бұрын
: Am planing to get my first MacBook I ll use the MacBook Air for 1. Multiple tabs in browser - article reading and KZfaq videos. 2. Content viewing. 3. Ppt 3. Since am planing to get iPhone 15 pro, may be learn to do minor photo & video editing ( tour videos). 4. Teleradiology ( viewing and very minor graphic processing 2D to volume rendering) _ bigger screen is better here. 5. Use my iPad as sidecar in reporting. 6. May connect a monitor in future. With these uses, Since MacBook Air is well built am planing to use for atleast few years 5plus Should I get 8 or 16 gb ram keeping in mind on the works and future proofing for macOS updates.
@behradbagheri4481 11 ай бұрын
I think base model is better. otherwise if you want to upgrade, buying 14" or 16" Macbook pro (even 1m pro) is better option.
@SideTripLife 11 ай бұрын
As expected my base M1 Air 2 x128 is twice as fast as base 15" M2 Air 1x256. With my M1 I can and do edit 4k YT vids on the fly, no problem,. Base M2, stutter & throttle. So, much as i'd like a 15" screen in a lite body, will wait to see what M3 brings come Nov.
@mwasi 11 ай бұрын
very good testing the best video for true comparison
@soots-stayingoutofthespotl5495 11 ай бұрын
I'm not entirely sure that this video doesn't cause more confusion than it provides help? I often have around 100-150 tabs open (sometimes dozens more), and it's concerning to see that just 10 tabs pushes 8Gb. I was thinking about speccing 16Gb, and according to what I'd read online that should be fine for the number of tabs I want to keep open. This video demonsrates that browsing is much less smooth with 8Gb, yet at the end of it he basically says 'If you aren't multitasking and just want smooth browsing, upgrade the SSD'. That's basically me (with this proposed new machine), but I certainly wouldn't my shiny new laptop to provide a glitchy experience, so can anyone out there shed some more light on it please?
@PackFan2323 6 ай бұрын
Excellent, concise review. Makes the purchase decision perfectly clear. For most at least 512GB. Right now with Black Friday specials, $1,399 for 512/16GB is a no brainer! Thanks!
@JJ-fq3dh 11 ай бұрын
Get the extra ram and buy a nvme ssd, put it into a nvme to thunderbolt enclosure . Im using a 1TB samsung 980 pro in a acasis enclosure. Im getting 3gb/sec sustained reads and writes. Almost as fast as maxed out internal SSD speeds , which is about 5GB/sec
@Livingwithken 11 ай бұрын
Do we have a 24GB memory with 2TB of drive space version? Aka fully maxed out?!?
@PatricioBenavente 11 ай бұрын
If you plan to use: Figma, Photoshop, Logic, Final Cut Pro, Xcode or any pro app get 16. If you plan to use pages, word, mail, safari, etc you will be fine with 8
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