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15 Shmups That Teach How Shmups Work

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Lazy Devs

Lazy Devs

Күн бұрын

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@TheElectricUnderground
@TheElectricUnderground Жыл бұрын
Awesome work on this video my friend! I bet it was a huge undertaking putting it together!
@LazyDevs
@LazyDevs Жыл бұрын
Couldn't have done it without your help. Cheers!
@gabrielpineirobermudez4529
@gabrielpineirobermudez4529 Жыл бұрын
Ey! You are here as well! You and your channel are the reason why I am working on a shmup. I'll share it as soon as I have something I can feel proud of. Thank you Mark.
@Eener1000
@Eener1000 8 ай бұрын
Nice. It feels though like most modern shmups are the bullet hell kind. I miss the hero adventure kind like UN Squadron where it feels like you are lone pilot on a galaxy/world saving mission. Hydorah from Locomalito was a nice nod to that lost genre.
@boghogSTG
@boghogSTG Жыл бұрын
If you're a developer, I'd say you absolutely HAVE to get into Yagawa style games - Battle Garegga, Armed Police Batrider, Ibara, Pink Sweets. They are *very* hardcore but there are way too many great ideas there to ignore. Even if you don't find them fun, treat it as research & homework. I'd recommend everyone watch this run to get a taste : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/btqAiaWhz8nWqHk.html For actually playing the games, a good way would be to get a taste of dynamic difficulty/resource economies in Blue Revolver's Hyper mode. Then move to Muchi Muchi Pork which is a very simplified take on Yagawa's style. After that Battle Garegga & Batrider shouldn't seem that scary & obscure. Also a nice guide! Covered just about every game that'd come to mind. Maybe a "how to learn" follow up is in order ;) IMO getting decent at these games is a must...it's the best way to build your dev intuition. Even if that only means you can no death clear some hard bosses with savestates, or get really good at scoring in early levels.
@robertjohnson9187
@robertjohnson9187 Жыл бұрын
I dumped a lot of quarters into Raiden at my hometown arcade way back when I was in high school.
@LazyDevs
@LazyDevs Жыл бұрын
Same!
@septum___
@septum___ Жыл бұрын
A Lazy Devs featuring A Skeleton !? This is a shmiracle 🤩
@EdWalker
@EdWalker Жыл бұрын
This is hands down the best introduction to the Shmup genre I've ever seen. Excellent work!
@LazyDevs
@LazyDevs Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@daserfomalhaut9809
@daserfomalhaut9809 11 ай бұрын
I love all but 2 of these, but if there's one game I would always recommend people, it's Axelay. It's short and sweet, boasting excellent presentation and a feeling of adventure with stakes. Beautiful richly detailed graphics with bold audio. It's a game you play not to 1cc or set a high score but to experience. Not that it tells a phenomenal story or anything, but it's the way the game carries itself through it's tone and powerful aesthetic across varied stages that have subtle hints of world building ending in impressive bosses. It gets you invested to see it through to the satisfying ending sequence making you feel like a hero. It's weapon system allows you to personalize a loadout and doubles as a very beginner friendly health system. It makes it very easy to get into being a touch easier than other Konami STG's. It's everything I love about higher echelon Super Nintendo gaming. A masterpiece from Konami.
@MovieBinges
@MovieBinges 10 ай бұрын
Great vid featuring some truly legendary Shmups!! But I gotta say I'm a little sad that you didn't mention any "Euro" Shmups like Sky Force and Jets'n'Guns which I personally had a lot of fun playing. Anyways keep it up!
@fernfernacelli
@fernfernacelli 2 ай бұрын
*INSTANT* sub. With being an avid fan of shooters (what I remember calling the genre before there was a real need for distinction from, at least, first-person shooters) AND being a ‘Day 1’ Transformers fan, the chapter/guest transitions AND the coverage in this video speak to me *at my core*. The guests and overall effort is AMAZING here. EXCELLENT!!! Shout to Zanac (Atari’s Space Invaders, and then, Zanac, were how I ‘cut my teeth’) and pretty much anything in the ‘Aleste’ realm… AWESOME… cheers! \m/, 😊 ,\m/
@OGPimpin
@OGPimpin 2 ай бұрын
I always recommend any Raizing game (once you become decently comfortable with shmups) to learn how to explore scoring systems, rank, etc.
@SavageDiavolos
@SavageDiavolos Жыл бұрын
As a new guy trying to get into Shmups recently, I greatly appreciate this amazing work with all the resources you put together. Thanks to this I'm starting to understand more the intricacies and history of this addictive genre.
@AKTANEARCADE
@AKTANEARCADE Жыл бұрын
Hahaha the MJ reference was amazing 😂 such a great vid and something that I think is hard to put together!!! This can be referenced for a long time...
@PixelisedPaul
@PixelisedPaul Жыл бұрын
I *will* finish my Ikaruga demake. I actually feel a bit ashamed that I never saw it through for the end of "season 1" but this will surely give me the kick the up the arse to get going again.
@LazyDevs
@LazyDevs Жыл бұрын
Dude, people were going crazy for the gifs you posted!
@goob8945
@goob8945 4 ай бұрын
the shmup community is so tight knit its amazing
@ReSpark141
@ReSpark141 3 ай бұрын
the games that got me into wanting to make a schmup is indie dev's Masayuki Ito's Bullet Hell Monday, and .Decluster Zero, they both have their own kind of feel i havent been able to replicate with other schmups, probably because it was on mobile before getting steam ports, and were hella accessable
@SoulHero7
@SoulHero7 8 күн бұрын
Whenever I heard anyone talk about Ikaruga, I've heard nothing but praise for the Polarity system, the music, and even the story of the game. And now that I'm learning about how Shmups work, I can see how Ikaruga was able to break so many rules of Shmup design and still have the game work and be fair BECAUSE of the Polarity system. This is the first I've heard of it being controversial.
@bc_uk
@bc_uk Жыл бұрын
There are very few shmups that can lay claim to being "atmospheric". Maybe just a couple of the R-Type titles (especially the original arcade R-Type) and the original arcade 3-screen Darius with stereo sound come to mind. Even the very top-tier STGs I would not really associate with the term "atmospheric". This is an under-developed area in the STG formula I think, or at least long-forgotten.
@347573
@347573 8 ай бұрын
Sound maybe in fact a very key ingredient as "Bad Apple" enlarged community can prove!...
@zalhietzli
@zalhietzli Жыл бұрын
Great video ! Can't wait for what's coming next. My recommendations are Guwange, ESP Ra De, GigaWing and Progear !
@blackcitadel37
@blackcitadel37 3 ай бұрын
The entire yt shmup pantheon in a single video :D
@tritonmame1282
@tritonmame1282 Жыл бұрын
My personal recomendation is resogun - a gradius-style shooter from housemarque with perfect arcade structure.
@Undermog
@Undermog Жыл бұрын
Love it, awesome resource for learning shmup history!
@GuilleAcoustic
@GuilleAcoustic Жыл бұрын
Very nice video ! My two favorites shmups might be Blazing Star (NeoGeo) and Tyrian (PC-DOS)
@mkavo
@mkavo Жыл бұрын
Wow this series is going to be amazing, really hard to understand how to build a shmuo well, vertical and horizontal, lots of tools out there but no good source of info on what to think about. Really looking forward to this. Gunveins tutorial is best I've seen for understanding shmuos better
@gamewatcher4417
@gamewatcher4417 9 ай бұрын
Two that I would like to recommend everyone to play are Progear and Vasara
@basiltermini
@basiltermini Жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you for taking the time to make it. And thanks to the guests for all the great suggestions for games to play and research! A recommendation from me would be a flash classic called Frantic 2. It has an awesome soundtrack and a really unique aesthetic. I got the idea of vacuuming remaining bullets to the player from the game. Unfortunately it's not easily accessible anymore since the discontinuation of Flash Player.
@GojiGuy
@GojiGuy Жыл бұрын
Great video! This is like the absolute crash course in shmups
@DaKing08
@DaKing08 7 ай бұрын
I can’t believe you forgot Bullet Hell Monday! the mission system and destruction rate feature makes BHM much more intuitive and makes you more inclined to explore, especially since completing all missions in a stage gives more AP for upgrades. Some missions have you developing a scoring strategy while others have you speedkilling enemies to complete the stage as fast as possible. Maybe No Miss No Bomb (NMNB) a boss? What about timing it out and waiting until it explodes on itself? Seriously, play Bullet Hell Monday.
@LoveXKnife
@LoveXKnife 9 ай бұрын
I love your channel so much. Thanks for all your videos, amazing work.
@MladenMihajlovic
@MladenMihajlovic Жыл бұрын
My favourite has always been Slap Fight (also known as Acon) - great graphics, great mechanics, just great game. Also Xenon 2 🙂
@shaunfreeman972
@shaunfreeman972 Жыл бұрын
Deffo xenon 2
@Chronosv2
@Chronosv2 Жыл бұрын
If you want to check out a shmup treading new ground, give REVOLVER360 a try. It's a shmup where you rotate the playfield around the axis of travel, making it possible to dodge bullets in unique ways and even discover secrets. It's a game I really enjoy and would love for more people to experience.
@LazyDevs
@LazyDevs Жыл бұрын
Good recommendaion! I have it in my Steam library. Just never got to it.
@shaunfreeman972
@shaunfreeman972 Жыл бұрын
Rtypes definitely had that 'just one more go' thing. The minotaurs Gridrunner has to get a mention..
@rogueabyss
@rogueabyss Жыл бұрын
I honestly don't get why gradius's follower things are called options
@gsbenassi1735
@gsbenassi1735 Жыл бұрын
I'm creating a Shmup with modes and art that embrace modernity as well as classics. Shmup is a very small niche these days, but with the right mechanics and game modes, it can attract new players who aren't fans of it. The main feature of mine is the "lifetime" that the game will have, as it is possible to be a quick game that pleases niche players, but also has a story mode, with indeed a story that is well developed and attracts interest. With 9 characters (+ 4 types of ships for each), the game will have a great diversity of gameplay and combat, as each one will have unique consequences on the maps, such as a secret boss.
@romeomcbeth5275
@romeomcbeth5275 3 күн бұрын
When does this release?
@Eurallis2
@Eurallis2 Жыл бұрын
My recommendations: Modern Resogun [PS4/PS3/Vita] Sky Force Anniversary and Sky Force Reloaded [PC/Switch/PS4/PS3/Xbox/iOS/Android (almost everything)] Classic Space Megaforce/Super Aleste [SNES] Parodius [Arcade/GB/GBC/PSX/PSP/Saturn/Super Famicom] I love the long term card collecting and pilot collecting of Sky Force being in my pocket at all times and being able to play one handed. It's a bit rough getting built up, but it always gave me something to come back for more. Resogun, as someone already mentioned, will never leave my PS4. The classics mentioned here are ones that I would love to just zone out and play over and over. Great job with the shmup tutorial Lazy Devs, and keep up the great work you are doing.
@LazyDevs
@LazyDevs Жыл бұрын
Oh man, initially I had Paroidus as a recommendation instead of Gradius. Spent a lot of time with that game on the Game Boy!
@Saturn2888
@Saturn2888 13 күн бұрын
I was thinking I'd see some more accessible shmups like Tyrain, Ikaruga, and Jamestown (I always play co-op). It's got 2 outta 3. I think Gradius V had save states where you could pickup where left off. Many other games shown look way too complicated, and I played games like these as a kid. Minishoot Adventures is my favorite so far, but it wasn't out when this video was made.
@LazyDevs
@LazyDevs 13 күн бұрын
Minishoot Adventures is a twin-stick shooter. That is a different type of shooting game
@Saturn2888
@Saturn2888 13 күн бұрын
@@LazyDevs I didn't realize. It looks like a bullet hell though. What's different?
@ty-xq7bl
@ty-xq7bl Жыл бұрын
that was an unexpected collab not that im not complaining
@Zefrem23
@Zefrem23 11 ай бұрын
O hai Mark!
@shikasketchbook7610
@shikasketchbook7610 Жыл бұрын
During the late 80s and 90s I played Raiden at the arcade losing alot of coins and remember the later Raiden, u can get the purple homing fat lasers, it was so satisfying to see the fat purple homing laser wipe the screen. Air gallet first I dislike the green laser frm the circling balls then I learn to like it when u get to lock the balls and by keep pressing the button for auto shoot. Progear-love the pixel art, contrast pastel background against the foreground,very cinematic.Classic like Air buster & Air duel I'm glad I played them at the arcade before. Cosmic cop is like a proto Metal Slug (pallette) but with 90s cyber punk anime, the art is A+. Banpresto Super Space Fortress Macross art is amazing too when I played in the arcade, I look forward to the cut scene which is beautiful to look at. Basically i think bullet hell is just a live-evolving-floating maze you have to find entry and exit lol, Tq for your time/energy for all your videos
@LazyDevs
@LazyDevs Жыл бұрын
Ah yeah the purple toothpase laser. That was Raiden II. Not my personal favorite but a close runner up. And I totally get why it is such a popular entry in the franchise. The particle effects are insane!
@rogueabyss
@rogueabyss Жыл бұрын
the pico-8 rtype is cool (zeroranger, and shildmaid MX are fun)
@LoveXKnife
@LoveXKnife 9 ай бұрын
Epic crossovers
@martinwohrle7887
@martinwohrle7887 9 ай бұрын
What a great video, thanks!!
@arcoelho01
@arcoelho01 Жыл бұрын
First of all, thank you for your videos! I would like to recommend "Squad 51 vs. the Flying Saucers", it's available on Steam. It is a shmup with a cinematic sci-fi b-movie visual and aesthetics.
@LazyDevs
@LazyDevs Жыл бұрын
I saw that! That looked so rad!
@RobertoRenovato
@RobertoRenovato Жыл бұрын
I recommend Super Hydorah, by Locomalito, if you haven't seen already. He also made other very cool retro-inspired games.
@Brosefish1019
@Brosefish1019 Ай бұрын
Is there a category name for those early 80's shmups like Galaga or Space Invaders?
@LazyDevs
@LazyDevs Ай бұрын
No agreed-upon name AFAIK. "Fixed Shooter" because the screen is not scrolling. Or perhaps just "Space-Invader-Like"?
@soratheorangejuicemascot5809
@soratheorangejuicemascot5809 Жыл бұрын
19:03 his Bayonetta 3 video is turning into a microwave.
@LazyDevs
@LazyDevs Жыл бұрын
Bayonetta was always a hot take magnet. Not touching that game before the dust has settled.
@LucidDream1967
@LucidDream1967 Жыл бұрын
ppl have phd's and doctorates in shmups?..... who knew... ? hehe😄 i never was a superfan of the genre as im more into platformers but after participating in the first tutorial series basicly to learn a little coding.. the charm is getting to me. And about charm.... Raiden instantly caught my eye, love the style. But the Indie games......... why is the indie games so much better looking than the big studio releases?? ZeroRanger!! Hallelujah.... 100%
@LazyDevs
@LazyDevs Жыл бұрын
Oh man yeah Zero Ranger is SUCH. A. LOOKER
@rogueabyss
@rogueabyss Жыл бұрын
ohhhh, there is gonna be a phase 2
@harrihaffi2713
@harrihaffi2713 3 ай бұрын
I wonder what shmup has the best story…
@soratheorangejuicemascot5809
@soratheorangejuicemascot5809 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I tend to prefer weirder shmups like Suguri and Hellsinker but those games can teach you a bad habit.
@LazyDevs
@LazyDevs Жыл бұрын
Oh man, need to wrap my head around Hellsinker!
@liamconverse8950
@liamconverse8950 9 ай бұрын
Raiden borrows very heavily from Toaplan's vertical shooters like Truxton and Fireshark
@VanArtic
@VanArtic Жыл бұрын
34:06 oh look its me :)
@adamfreidin5319
@adamfreidin5319 25 күн бұрын
Where's Black Bird?
@347573
@347573 8 ай бұрын
Xenon 2 Megablast!! :)
@dnos1979
@dnos1979 Жыл бұрын
Definitely a big fan of Raiden and Raiden 2. Sky Force series is also very good. What about old dos shooters Raptor and Tyrian? They were awesome shmup rpgs.
@LazyDevs
@LazyDevs Жыл бұрын
Raptor, Tyrian and Sky Force count to the so-called Euroshmups. Generally not very liked in the Shmup community. Will discuss later why. I have to admit that Sky Force does a good job at keeping you motivated.
@wewyllenium
@wewyllenium 10 ай бұрын
moai are in gradiius because 80s japan was into ancient aliens.
@319t.j.5
@319t.j.5 Жыл бұрын
play eschatos
@FabricioKarim
@FabricioKarim Жыл бұрын
I dont play many shmups, buy Tiger Heli, Steal Empire and Thunder Force V...I player a Lot! PS: I Sense Superfriends vibes
@LazyDevs
@LazyDevs Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah Tiger Heli was basically the game that Raiden copied. Need to play Thunder Force. Heard good things about it!
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