15 years analyzing chess I've never seen this before

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Epic Chess

Жыл бұрын

I've spent 15 years analyzing chess and I've never seen this before, this is one of Hans Niemann's "Suspicious 100%" Games played in 2020 and analyzed by gambitman and Yosha. In the wake of the chess cheating all Hans Niemann games are being scrutinized and this beautiful game is a great find!
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@bluecheese4877
@bluecheese4877 Жыл бұрын
That Hans is brilliant, he plays like a machine. He must be buzzing !
@elvinyeo7230
@elvinyeo7230 Жыл бұрын
This kid grew up learning chess on machines. So his approach to the game be different from classical
@jaideepshekhar4621
@jaideepshekhar4621 Жыл бұрын
@@elvinyeo7230 So did Prag, Gukesh, Keymar and the rest. You can stop blatantly lying now. 😡
@THAC0MANIC
@THAC0MANIC Жыл бұрын
proof or your just going to be discriminate against?
@jaideepshekhar4621
@jaideepshekhar4621 Жыл бұрын
@@THAC0MANIC How are YOU going to prove some is cheating, even if they cheat in every game??? 🤡
@THAC0MANIC
@THAC0MANIC Жыл бұрын
@@jaideepshekhar4621 you mean if i was in charge and had a better system in place or some such like hey wtf you smoking do you not even know the basics of wtf your saying br0? so to you just claiming someone is a cheater is enough to condemn a person? got it your one of these peeps that go your german hitler was german thus your hitler.
@Rushdenchess
@Rushdenchess Жыл бұрын
I think brilliant move triggers when you offer some kind of piece sacrifice to gain an advantage. Because in this case the sacrifice for the Knight is offered multiple moves in a row it may explain the multiple brilliant moves
@Counttom90
@Counttom90 Жыл бұрын
agreed
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
Ah that would start to make sense! And hope you're doing well, I'm enjoying the live chess vids 😁
@chrisdin4109
@chrisdin4109 Жыл бұрын
I think it used to be a move the engine missed that is actually the best move due to the Horizon effect. However, given that current Stockfish NNUE is stronger than Alphazero by a considerable margin (supposedly) I imagine such moves are exceptionally rare.
@andrewschultz6608
@andrewschultz6608 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that sounds right, once I actually got a "brilliant move" for the 2nd best move according to the engine. It was a pretty straightforward rook sac for 2 pawns. The first was a truly brilliant quiet move which left my opponent with no moves.
@alexwimmer5198
@alexwimmer5198 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant move gets triggered only on sacrifices that low-depth sf evaluates as blunders but high-depth sf evaluates as good moves
@soakedbearrd
@soakedbearrd Жыл бұрын
I’m not a Hans fan, but if I’m being honest, this seems to be intuitive play. It was not hard to see the first move or the others. The key is I’m not a grandmaster, so I’m sure the pressure not to do this is much higher in a game that counts vs a decent casual player that looks for tal inspired play.
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
Yeah my thoughts too! Thanks for watching
@1994mrmysteryman
@1994mrmysteryman Жыл бұрын
What is your rating if I may ask?
@junc3354
@junc3354 Жыл бұрын
the moves were pretty much easy to spot.. can't analyze that much deep but with instincts if you are an attacking player will lead you to that series of moves.
@1994mrmysteryman
@1994mrmysteryman Жыл бұрын
@@junc3354 Check out the SuperGM here
@soakedbearrd
@soakedbearrd Жыл бұрын
@@1994mrmysteryman since censors are active, I’ll just say I don’t have fide or uscf, but on the two major online platforms chess and lichess, I am 2040 (2151 high), and 2169 (2264 high). Both are blitz (mostly 3 min).
@_RDMPTN
@_RDMPTN Жыл бұрын
Well done to Hans. Those moves weren't groundbreaking more so intuitive.
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
Yeah agreed!
@wcydiiwii
@wcydiiwii Жыл бұрын
It's been a while since I've watched chess content, but I'm happy to see you now at almost 15k subs!
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Franco cheers for watching!
@supernoobsmith5718
@supernoobsmith5718 Жыл бұрын
I don't care what the exclamations imply, there is nothing odd about those moves. Queen took initiative instead of the empty knight attack.
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
Yeah that's what I thought too
@kamarberrada4371
@kamarberrada4371 Жыл бұрын
@@epicchess2021 He just played good moves (I play more complex games/moves).
@charleshendrix232
@charleshendrix232 Жыл бұрын
That program ever seen Fischer play? It would call him a cheater every other game😩
@kaseabernathy3642
@kaseabernathy3642 Жыл бұрын
I would agree with your analysis. Queen h3 is certainly a stunner, but for a top player like Hnas it shouldn't be hard considering every other move loses. I don't see any reason to think Hans cheated in this game. It was simply a masterpiece.
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Kase glad you enjoyed cheers for watching
@nightmareTomek
@nightmareTomek Жыл бұрын
The real question is: whose masterpiece is it? Hans' or his cheat AI?
@GoetzimRegen
@GoetzimRegen Жыл бұрын
@@nightmareTomek Is Hans cyperknetic enhanced or chrispered or ... .
@johnwest7993
@johnwest7993 Жыл бұрын
How do we know he's a top player? He could have been cheating all along. That's the problem with cheaters. You will never again be sure he isn't cheating.
@JR-wj9bh
@JR-wj9bh Жыл бұрын
He often blunders against low rating GMs, he's not top 10
@ChessHoodie
@ChessHoodie Жыл бұрын
There is a youtuber called SomeDumbTrucker, and he had a game with 7 brilliant moves in a row ( He was around 1600 on chesscom at the time of the game I think, and he has a video showing the game somewhere on his channel). I know the guy personally, so I am 100% positive that his game was legit. In his game he can take the opponent's queen , but he ignores it and continues the attack. Had I played that position, I would have just taken the queen ( I am 2250 on chesscom). So, I would not have made any brilliant moves according to chesscom, but would have still won the game, most likely. Now comes the question: "If chesscom says the move is brilliant, should we agree that it is?" Chesscom is establishing many new standards (by sheer power of their assumed authority) which are to put it mildly - questionable. However, most people are accepting these new standards as a given. Nice video, nonetheless!
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
Yeah and he commented on this video and showed me 😁 and then Gotham did a video yesterday of 10 brilliancies in a row!! Yeah the brilliant thing is overused in chesscom rules I think , thanks for watching
@sinestre71
@sinestre71 Жыл бұрын
I had low expectations if your analysis given the title of your video. But you now have new follower in me. That was a pretty fair and accurate /plausible overview. That algorithms benchmark in brilliant moves is pretty low. Only one if the four seemed to merit that distinction as u pointed out. Look forward to watching more of your analysis.
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot appreciate it! And literally today Gotham posted a video showing 10 brilliancies in a row!!
@22Clearwater
@22Clearwater Жыл бұрын
I'm a mediocre player at best, and I anticipated the 4 'brilliant' moves quite easily. The Queen move and potential Knight sacrifice seemed worth the risk, and the rest seemed like logical attacking play to get the rook behind the queen. If we are going to suspect people of cheating when they play well the game is in trouble.
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
Yeah defo findable! I think it just gets given a brilliancy for leaving the knight hanging the whole time basically. Thanks for watching, David
@MrHistorian123
@MrHistorian123 Жыл бұрын
I found all 4 moves and I never quite made IM level back in the 70s. These are good moves, but no way are they "brilliant".
@jessejordache1869
@jessejordache1869 Жыл бұрын
Great, short, concise video. Subscribed. (btw, you're not kidding that all Hans Niemann games are heavily analyzed -- when I use chessbase to have a look at them, there are literally already thousands of users who have beaten me to it.)
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! And yeah probably 50+ of his games are now bringing back 100% accuracy or close to it!
@matthebert007
@matthebert007 Жыл бұрын
It did not look like cheating in this game. That looked like sharp intuitive play.
@geometricart7851
@geometricart7851 Жыл бұрын
I've been analyzing chess for over 35 years with 34 1/2 of those years just staring blankly at the board being used as a food tray.
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣 fair enough that made me laugh 😁
@userlovewinsall
@userlovewinsall Жыл бұрын
Your sense of humour is always great 😂
@alexanderlyon
@alexanderlyon Жыл бұрын
Great analysis. I'm a below-average player (and I play against below-average players) and we'll frequently just send a Queen down into a square like that behind the pawn line just to see what opportunities it might create. To me, that was an aggressive move that might look a couple of moves premature but it didn't look brilliant to me. It looked like a great spot for the Queen. She was in no danger but was pretty close to being in the King's face with no way to attack or get rid of her. Plus, white seemed pretty tentative. Black might have sensed the timidity and ratcheted up the aggression. Just my below-average opinion.
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Alexander and yeah especially in blitz games sticking your queen in the danger zone like that often works well as a tactic. Yeah I think the brilliant move logic needs working on because some moves are obvious but called brilliant just because a piece is left hanging (the knight on f4). Your name rang a bell because and I went on your profile and then realised I’ve seen a couple of your videos before so thanks a lot for putting them up! Awesome channel great job 😁 👏
@alexanderlyon
@alexanderlyon Жыл бұрын
@@epicchess2021 Well, nice to meet you! Thanks for your encouragement on my channel and I wish you the best with yours.
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!
@heyadrianx
@heyadrianx Жыл бұрын
Great analysis great video :)
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
thanks a lot adrian!
@lawyerlib
@lawyerlib Жыл бұрын
I'm gonna go with Hans being just that good!
@michaelmassaro4375
@michaelmassaro4375 Жыл бұрын
Great to hear that the games I’ve seen him play he’s been fabulous
@tedshaneyfelt2263
@tedshaneyfelt2263 Жыл бұрын
It's so nice to have plywood behind every wall. You can literally hang whatever you want wherever you want without worrying about hitting a stud or not.
@Shockprowl
@Shockprowl Жыл бұрын
Great video (and great beard!). Queen h3 was a perfectly normal human move; put the Queen in the danger zone. Even I saw it. I don't think I'd have played it because I couldn't see past the white Knight guarding g2, but I felt it was a normal attacking move. Queen into the danger zone. Especially as she always had a way back out again, no matter how passive.
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
Thanks haha, and yeah agreed, very playable especially at GM level!
@musamjiba6243
@musamjiba6243 Жыл бұрын
You: I can see Qh3 Me(1500 random guy): Wow, you can cap
@jaideepshekhar4621
@jaideepshekhar4621 Жыл бұрын
Queen h3 is normal, sacrificing a KNIGHT for it is NOT! 🙄
@musamjiba6243
@musamjiba6243 Жыл бұрын
@@jaideepshekhar4621 The move progression after h3 is also not visible
@RMF49
@RMF49 Жыл бұрын
Qh3 by far the hardest. Might be right or might be unsound. Guessing and playing it is not brilliant. If you’ve calculated and know, then it’s brilliant. Kg7 is not brilliant and any 1200 would play it and unless you have mate without any rooks it’s obviously the move.
@colinchesbrough5772
@colinchesbrough5772 Жыл бұрын
Hans isn't a cheater. He's beading his opponents straight up.
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
🤪😆
@theoldleafybeard
@theoldleafybeard Жыл бұрын
He's letting not only chess speak by itself, but also play by itself.
@verrettlasatt7909
@verrettlasatt7909 Жыл бұрын
Hans Moke, his chess speaks for itself. However, nice attempt of explaining Hans brilliance.
@kytong954
@kytong954 Жыл бұрын
Whoa your channel is starting to grow quickly!
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I mean some videos do well (especially hans niemann haha) and some rubbish (eg no one cares about giri games lol) but certainly great to be reaching more people overall. Thanks for watching, Ky
@jasonuerkvitz3756
@jasonuerkvitz3756 Жыл бұрын
Great analysis. Interestingly, Qh3 was my first idea as it pins the f3 knight in place guarding g2 with the threat of mate and if gxf4, exf4 was looking pretty sweet. The following three I had trouble finding because I wanted to force something with a rook exchange sac after moving to d3 and then capturing the knight on f3.
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jason and yeah it’s a bit misleading when you’re looking for brilliancies and in this position it’s just the obvious follow up moves
@jaideepshekhar4621
@jaideepshekhar4621 Жыл бұрын
Do you fucking retards just conveniently forget whatever evidence there is? Hans DID NOT KNOW WHAT TO DO after Qh3 if his knight was taken in the interview. HE DIDN'T KNOW! HE COULDN'T EVEN UNDERSTAND the position! DO YOU RETARDS UNDERSTAND??? 🙄
@jasonuerkvitz3756
@jasonuerkvitz3756 Жыл бұрын
@@jaideepshekhar4621 no cause um wetodded sawee But seriously, mate, I was responding to James Gardner's @Epic Chess question of whether or not I could find the moves the analysis engine deemed brilliant. The topic of the video specifically dealt with the 4 brilliancies in a row. Whether Hans was cheating or not wasn't the topic of my response. I hope you don't speak to your family members the way you shitpost on KZfaq, though, mate. You're 6 shades of vile, aye?
@ThainaYu
@ThainaYu 2 күн бұрын
I guess it's counted as brilliant because he just hang a knight for all of those move
@jackmichael4255
@jackmichael4255 Жыл бұрын
blongna, he just figured it out, its chess,both players have a shot
@dtouey
@dtouey Жыл бұрын
When you called her video suspicious you were right the first time.
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I don't rate it but I like the games
@supernoobsmith5718
@supernoobsmith5718 Жыл бұрын
Well I double-checked Gambitslayer5000 super engine analysis and it shows Hans cheated with 117% accuracy! And Hikaru said wow repeatedly so that proves Hans cheated at Sinquefield!
@HMBartleby
@HMBartleby Жыл бұрын
None of these moves are too hard to see, actually. This is one of the least suspicious games by Hans
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
Yeah agreed! Thanks for watching
@michaelcorleone2794
@michaelcorleone2794 Жыл бұрын
@@epicchess2021 Are you serious? You made a whole video supporting the exact opposite?
@joeldalton473
@joeldalton473 Жыл бұрын
@@epicchess2021 I'm sorry Epic, I like your channel, but was the title "15 years analyzing chess I've never seen this before"? What a coincidence, the guy embroiled in cheating scandals has produced moves you've never seen before.
@wheelinshirt
@wheelinshirt Жыл бұрын
this is just a result of the knight hanging for consecutive turns. if the best move is something other than saving the knight and you make that move, its pretty much guaranteed to be 'brilliant'
@niceguy3388
@niceguy3388 Жыл бұрын
what's your take on what a "brilliant" move is and why lichess won't include in their analysis system
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
I think LiChess are just a bit behind on the development, being a non profit they just don't have the same team of developers is all, is my thoughts anyway
@smsamiri378
@smsamiri378 Жыл бұрын
I love the beard
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
Thanks 😁
@kennethseaboyer5330
@kennethseaboyer5330 Жыл бұрын
brilliant move triggers after the person makes a move that the engine didn’t consider the best move but after reevaluating the position finds that the move was better than what it had originally came up with.
@zerotwoisreal
@zerotwoisreal Жыл бұрын
so basically if the engine recommends c6 but I sack my rook and the engine evaluates the position to be better than c6 it's brilliant because the engine didn't calculate stuff like sacking the rook
@woowooNeedsFaith
@woowooNeedsFaith Жыл бұрын
10:46 - I would say it is "brilliant" because it opens up the column H for the rook to protect the queen. I did not notice at all such opportunity when I considered that move.
@Sabre_Wulf1
@Sabre_Wulf1 Жыл бұрын
If Hans was a battle strategist, I would want him on my side. He clearly knows how to mix up well known set plays. That's exactly what you need to beat other incredible generals who use old wars as a handbook to win.
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
Yeah very strong player and broke top 50 in world now! Thanks for watching
@routex1
@routex1 Жыл бұрын
Finding the move in a game when you have no knowledge that it exists is the brilliancy. Seeing the move broken down in a post game analysis gives it a false air of normalcy.
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
Yeah fully agree, as soon as you’re told there’s a puzzle in there completely changes your outlook. Thanks for the watching!
@PrometheanConsulting
@PrometheanConsulting Жыл бұрын
What always strikes me about games at this level is that I nearly always spot the critical idea/move as a candidate move but it's always the timing that makes the difference. In this game specifically, the computer analysis quibbles about when to exchange pieces or not and usually the focus is on the supposed strength of that piece (usually the computer evaluates this as potential moves or space or control). But top players and computers also have a sense of when a piece that had a specific role locked up has suddenly become overloaded and is now a tempo behind where it needs to be and can seize on that or create that exact opportunity.
@Brandon-a-writer
@Brandon-a-writer Жыл бұрын
32, nice to see 'older gentlemen' still making content on youtube man. i'm 38, been writing for youtube since 2018. Good luck on this mad platform dude.
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
haha thanks man and the same to you!
@Brandon-a-writer
@Brandon-a-writer Жыл бұрын
@@epicchess2021 Thanks for the response man, I'm glad you got back to me. This platform is difficult to work on, but you have all the right ingredients for a successful channel and hopefully we'll get to see you succeed man. Also, is it fair to say you beat a grandmaster if it was in a simul? -- I beat Jan Gustaffson with black in a simul and my brothers won't count it since it was... a simul. I disagree! Thought he would have probably been able to win that game if we had played it out, it was giving -3 when his time ran out. Down an exchange and a pawn, I count it! Cheers man, bratya -- haha, yes, russians are born at 2100 ELO :P
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
@@Brandon-a-writer haha thanks a lot and yeah defo! You beat him fair and square although of course he was slightly handicapped by playing others, but regardless, fair and square very well played!! Can't say I've ever done it
@threethrushes
@threethrushes Жыл бұрын
You have to have beady eyes to see as far as Mr. Niemann.
@jukeseyable
@jukeseyable Жыл бұрын
my thoughts are that the Algo is very generious in its praise
@keithaiyahisrael3700
@keithaiyahisrael3700 Жыл бұрын
Dude made serious {BLUNDERS}
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
Yeah! Thanks for watching
@kingmo565
@kingmo565 Жыл бұрын
If Dubov was watching this game, he'd have found every one of the brilliant moves as well.
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
Agreed! Great attacking players
@danielch6662
@danielch6662 Жыл бұрын
I heard Yosha screwed up her analysis and did it wrong.
@Chance-ry1hq
@Chance-ry1hq Жыл бұрын
Sometimes the obvious move is brilliant. All of these brilliant moves were obvious.
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
Yeah true, I think the chesscom algorithm needs a bit of work on 'brilliant moves'. Thanks for watching
@John_II
@John_II Жыл бұрын
Qh3 (!!)... Hans turns on the engine?
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
😉
@jfukura
@jfukura Жыл бұрын
It all boils down to character. If you have created a character that says "not only have I cheated, but I have lied about cheating," it automatically will make you a suspect in any situation that seems out of the ordinary, like a player playing above their level. whether you like it or not, it's apparent that Hans can't be trusted.
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
Yeah he’s done nothing to help his rep by those past actions that’s true
@JasonC-rp3ly
@JasonC-rp3ly Жыл бұрын
There's no proof. Magnus slandered him. Not cool.
@perman07
@perman07 Жыл бұрын
@@JasonC-rp3ly There's proof of past cheating. The real issue is that he gains a psychological edge purely based on the paranoia an opponent could have from knowledge of past cheating. Hans doesn't have to cheat to throw Magnus off, and that's his own fault.
@cattinkerbell4946
@cattinkerbell4946 Жыл бұрын
Beads played well.
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
🤪😆
@kokeskokeskokes
@kokeskokeskokes Жыл бұрын
Strangely, it was the first move that came to my mind.
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
Oh nice! Yeah it is quite natural when looking for the attack although the follow ups aren’t all obvious. Thanks for watching, Jan
@chessbrilliance8783
@chessbrilliance8783 Жыл бұрын
Qh3 is never a human move.
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
A lot of others in the comments have said the opposite! Not an easy one tho
@altonbrek
@altonbrek Жыл бұрын
Brilliant game!
@TruthSurge
@TruthSurge 5 ай бұрын
I didn't see them as brilliant, myself. Moving the queen up to the white king seemed kind of obvious. All up in his grill while his protection was all to his left. I think these moves were simply allowed by the opponent who didn't have any good defense at that time. Maybe white should have moved f2 to f3 and give his king some breathing room and also allows for his queen to return to defend.
@martinblake2278
@martinblake2278 Жыл бұрын
His down under might be hurt from all the buzzing.
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
😆
@John_II
@John_II Жыл бұрын
I agree with the Movember technique. Just growing a mustache is hard, but if you grow the whole beard and then shave it down, you're home free.
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
haha yeah though at some point I guess I should shave it down or else November will pass me by
@Shockprowl
@Shockprowl Жыл бұрын
Grow the beard, but then keep the beard! (He says stroking his beard. It's good for playing chess!)
@Austistatistic
@Austistatistic Жыл бұрын
I'm 1300, and they looked natural to me (as someone who looks for tactics). Throwing your queen in looked like a natural attack to calculate. Knowing the knight isn't enough, you look for backup and see that there are no attacks from white if you move your king to free up a file for your rooks. Therefore, all the calculations are made in the pawn/knight exchanges, knowing that the queen traps the king AND cannot be budged.
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
Yeah agreed! Thanks for watching Lance
@cryptoico2647
@cryptoico2647 Жыл бұрын
I don’t even play chess and still find Hans suspicious 😂
@alecskinner8807
@alecskinner8807 Жыл бұрын
😂 👍🤣
@gusleffers9265
@gusleffers9265 Жыл бұрын
Yeah cause it’s confirmation bias. You hear this guy is a cheater, you hear this game is suspicious, you are biased in that way. Not trying to insult or anything (and it is somewhat suspicious) but this is obviously confirmation bias. If you don’t play you have no basis for why it is suspicious other than this guy who while reliable is not a complete authority.
@alecskinner8807
@alecskinner8807 Жыл бұрын
@@gusleffers9265 I’m biased because of his face 😁.
@HerrStaale
@HerrStaale Жыл бұрын
His past actions, tells it all.. He can't analyze his own games.. He is collb with Google or someone else.. Top tech up his azss?
@alecskinner8807
@alecskinner8807 Жыл бұрын
@@HerrStaale 😂
@benomulman
@benomulman Жыл бұрын
great channel
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Benedikt!
@user-lb4hu1fq5l
@user-lb4hu1fq5l Жыл бұрын
where were these so called "experts" before magnus accused hans? now everyone is an expert
@hyungtaecf
@hyungtaecf 5 ай бұрын
This algorithm classifies brilliant moves by when there's hanging pieces but you instead of defending the piece you make a better move. In this case it was 4 brilliant loves in a row because the knight was hanging for 4 moves while hans was playing other moves.
@gh-dw3tg
@gh-dw3tg Жыл бұрын
If it is online...then he has 2 computers running...one for the real game...the other one for a running a chess program.
@yoooyoyooo
@yoooyoyooo Жыл бұрын
I would be disappointed if a GM couldn't see that move. It was obvious there was something there. To a GM that must have been a cake.
@veridicusmaximus6010
@veridicusmaximus6010 Жыл бұрын
I don't think we can draw anything from it since I saw this strategy and I'm a 1800-1900 player. I saw the Queen move hoping to capture the 'h' pawn and then swing over my rooks. I was not sure exactly how but that was my strategy!
@hubertfloyd3569
@hubertfloyd3569 Жыл бұрын
I'm 1700 and was playing against Danya 2650 bot. I played "2 brilliant moves in a row". I still lost but yeah.
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
Oh nice decent going then. Any time a piece gets sacked the brilliant moves seem to kick in if its sound. Thanks for watching, Hubert
@foobarrel9046
@foobarrel9046 Жыл бұрын
Hans is an instinctively aggressive player who also uses psych-warfare techniques against his opponents (in interviews as well as OTB). Sometimes, like here, this works out fabulously: after he goes full send with the Q right beside their K, they literally crap themselves in fear and make several sub-optimal if not downright bad moves, opening opportunities which he improvises to exploit, and it ends up with him looking like an absolute genius who foresaw all, although there's a fair chance he did not. OTOH, those opponents who can keep their nerve will generally belay his ardour to win or draw. It makes for exciting chess, with plenty of cut & thrust, which is better than being bored to death by those GM's who play for 20 draws in a row. Cutting such a talent out of the industry due to some juvenile sins + the caprice of a Prima-Donna (Carlsen) would be a great loss for the sport. And of course there was no assistance or cheating in this game: the 4 brilliancies in a row is more an artefact of CC's analysis algorithm, as the latter 3 were fairly easy to find. Good video, btw, thanks!
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot and yeah agreed, that death stare he does would annoy me if I was playing him
@iankirk9097
@iankirk9097 Жыл бұрын
Great chess channel! Not super human 4 in a row. Only Qh3 deserved a double exclamation mark and even a single exclamation mark would have sufficed. The 3 follow up moves were a continuation of the idea behind Qh3.
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!
@bertross9727
@bertross9727 Жыл бұрын
He found the moves needed to carry on the attack, his opponent played many innacuracies..nothing to see here
@DonLee1980
@DonLee1980 Жыл бұрын
damn, i'm surprised i guessed several of the moves.
@TheNameOfJesus
@TheNameOfJesus Жыл бұрын
In order to make a judgment, I would need to ask what kind of security they had at this tournament. Any? None?
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
I suspect very minimal for when this was played plus the fact it wasn’t a major major event like the super GM tournaments
@maxvan11
@maxvan11 Жыл бұрын
Hans sets up h6 g6 pawns often. Sometimes if he’s trolling he goes a6 b6 h6 g6. Finchetto both sides. It's actually a decent setup.
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
Yeah true
@Warcheiftan
@Warcheiftan Жыл бұрын
Suspicious to all hell he is
@peterpetrov6522
@peterpetrov6522 Жыл бұрын
The only suspicious and brilliant move I thought was the defense h4 from white. Who does that!? The other brilliant moves kind of played themselves if you trust your intuition and don't want to give back the initiative. Standard stuff if you got a little Tal in you.
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
Yeah strange looking move, was heating up towards g3 but also risky pushing owns in front of your king of course
@rishijai
@rishijai Жыл бұрын
The HANS 9000 played brilliantly 🙂
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
Lol
@KvS1248
@KvS1248 11 ай бұрын
I thought from the thumbnail that the whole game he was going to play with 100% accuracy though 🤔 But hasn’t that happened too btw, and could you cover it?
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 11 ай бұрын
Yeah I’ve got some old videos on the channel
@X00000370
@X00000370 Жыл бұрын
The game looked OK to me. Han being aggressive might have been thinking of opening up the H-File so Q to h3 seems fine and had white not taken the knight then Han would have gotten good attacking chances and gotten the knight back with a "levelish" game. So to me, his 3rd and 4th "brilliant moves" were, pretty much, forced as he had committed to the attack and had to get the H-file open for his rook...I think Han plays with a lot of intuition hence Q to h3 and like to be aggressive ...
@jamie49868
@jamie49868 Жыл бұрын
Right. Once you go on the attack, you keep attacking. It was obvious that his opponent did not respond with good moves and allowed that line to be played.
@jaideepshekhar4621
@jaideepshekhar4621 Жыл бұрын
Intuition? Where did his gut feeling(😂) go when he was beaten black and blue by Magnus on the beach... 🙄 Where has it gone now, when he is losing and losing? 🙄
@johnbrion4565
@johnbrion4565 Жыл бұрын
Best chess channel online. Thanks.
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
Thanks John appreciate it! Glad you're enjoying
@zerotwoisreal
@zerotwoisreal Жыл бұрын
wrong www.youtube.com/@GothamChess
@Rahul-002b2
@Rahul-002b2 Жыл бұрын
I once had two brilliant moves in a row
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
Nice! Not sure I’ve even had that haha
@MrJoosebawkz
@MrJoosebawkz Жыл бұрын
0:52 why are people still equating accuracy with engine correlation. It’s apples to oranges
@unforseenconsequense
@unforseenconsequense Жыл бұрын
I'm sure if Hans was asked for analysis he'd have no idea, say "chess speaks for itself" and buzz off
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
😝
@JFBassett2050
@JFBassett2050 10 ай бұрын
Hey Bud!! I think you must have been analyzing Chess for far longer than any mere "over 15 years." I would guess that you must have been analyzing Chess for, say, a century or two. Great work!!
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 10 ай бұрын
Haha maybe in another life!! Thanks a lot for watching
@heklik
@heklik Жыл бұрын
maybe a clicking signal on its leg like on casino's.
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
Lol 😆
@joseviu969
@joseviu969 8 ай бұрын
u never seen stockfish playing before? hes rly good
@freefalling6960
@freefalling6960 Жыл бұрын
Makes you wonder if the plan was to get accused of cheating so he could then sue them for money that would be the mastermind move
@alecskinner8807
@alecskinner8807 Жыл бұрын
He started the anal beads rumour you mean? You’re right…the guy is an evil genius 😁.
@420homelands
@420homelands Жыл бұрын
Watched a few Anna Cramling videos today and 4 hours later I've made it to Epic Chess. I love how Epic Chess explains everything and all but I don't speak the chess language yet. I feel like I'm starting a new video game on the hardest mode. Anyone know of a good but more basic channel I could use to work my way up to Epic Chess? The news style videos were easy to watch and very interesting but to hear a game being explained I realize how completely out of my league Epic Chess is. Not a knock on Epic Chess whatsoever, it's a me not understanding what's being talked about without pausing and googling every other second kind of problem.
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
Oh cool that's interesting to hear though thanks! Maybe start with Gotham Chess and move up? In my more recent video though I try not to go so so deep!
@ericmol2614
@ericmol2614 Жыл бұрын
Yes I saw all of that after move 6.
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
Nice 😁
@maxfacts1
@maxfacts1 Жыл бұрын
It looks like a logical way to play, not suspicious at all it's just good tactics. No engine needed to find the queen H3 attacking move I found it in less than a minute, the next moves weren't that hard to find either. If this is how chessdot finds cheaters than it's pure witch hunt BS.
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I thought they were logical enough. But no this isn't how they find cheaters, they have tons of tools for that, this is just what the classified as 'brilliant' moves though I didn't get why all 4 were 'brilliant', only the first one seemed brilliant to me
@RenaxTM91
@RenaxTM91 Жыл бұрын
@@epicchess2021 isn't the "brilliant" thing just "the best move on the board" ? I mean I saw that queen move (after a good long while I might add) and the rest was fairly obvious, but still possibly the best move he could make?
@XerxesGammon200
@XerxesGammon200 Жыл бұрын
Hans is a confessed cheater. What are you on about? 😄
@maxfacts1
@maxfacts1 Жыл бұрын
@@epicchess2021 "But no this isn't how they find cheaters", maybe chessdot flags players for cheating when 3 or more "brilliant" moves are made, in that case it is a pure witch hunt BS.
@jakemccoy
@jakemccoy Жыл бұрын
Hindsight.
@thomasb9225
@thomasb9225 Жыл бұрын
To sac a knight for an extremely strong attack is where the fun begins - all other moves have been logical follow ups - not double exclams The rest is a question of your opponents skills - - Giri or Karjakin would have not been impressed - for a weaker player to defend? Hard task!
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
Yeah that was my thoughts too when I saw this, seemed weird seeing this as 4 double exclams in a row
@mrlocorio4291
@mrlocorio4291 Жыл бұрын
Id have played that Queen move, I wouldn't/couldn't have worked it all out, but it looks like a good move
@TheQuickzy
@TheQuickzy Жыл бұрын
hans niemann is a bad bad boy!
@mrdraw2087
@mrdraw2087 Жыл бұрын
I like it that the board awards some of black's moves with a "?" or "?!", when according to the engines his play was (almost) perfect. It was a pretty straightforward game, though.
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
Yeah!
@svfox
@svfox Жыл бұрын
I played 1 game and puts this to shame and I had to agree to never play chess again
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
Oh! 😁 you should take it up again! Thanks for watching, Steven
@tajneeley
@tajneeley Жыл бұрын
Lol dude is a strong GM . If an IM even played this game I would not be shocked.
@tengu8560
@tengu8560 Жыл бұрын
He has proved he is indeed a 2700 gm the past tournaments so indeed he’s a strong gm and seems the fastest player to ever get to 2700 in a short period of time
@liljess1208
@liljess1208 Жыл бұрын
He is not a strong GM. He is an average GM but still a GM nonetheless
@tengu8560
@tengu8560 Жыл бұрын
@@liljess1208 didn’t know being top 50 of the world is average rtard
@rorozoro9703
@rorozoro9703 Жыл бұрын
@@liljess1208 2700 is a strong GM level
@liljess1208
@liljess1208 Жыл бұрын
@@rorozoro9703 I would say he is an average GM. There are so many GMs that are clearly alot stronger than him. He has potential to get even stronger though, as long as he leaves his cheating days behind him.
@the.trollgubbe2642
@the.trollgubbe2642 Жыл бұрын
Game of the savants
@yissssss
@yissssss Жыл бұрын
I don't know, the third brilliant move was just super obvious so it was kind of just 3 in a row imo
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
Yeah only really one was I think qh3
@xtbum3339
@xtbum3339 Жыл бұрын
Too many people giving a known cheat too much of a benefit of the doubt.
@neurofiber2406
@neurofiber2406 Жыл бұрын
Hans Niemann is turning out to be the Uri Geller of chess...
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
😁
@miltonedwincobocortez8792
@miltonedwincobocortez8792 Жыл бұрын
Really nothing suspicious. White blunder , black play simple moves
@Djeafskie
@Djeafskie Жыл бұрын
Hans is guilty. Can you imagine drinking 3 water bottles in 1 game hahaha
@ralphgreenwood2469
@ralphgreenwood2469 Жыл бұрын
Everybody body saw the Queen move that was obvious.The rest of the moves are what is being discussed.
@tensor131
@tensor131 Жыл бұрын
A very balanced assessment. Was there anything hanging on the result? It's the sort of sequence that any decent player might execute in a casual online game where the fun outweighs the result!
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! And not that I’m aware of but I don’t know a lot of context sorry. And yeah agreed very findable moves. Thanks for watching, Phil
@mpmpm
@mpmpm Жыл бұрын
"A very balanced assessment." I disagree. The computer program was false when putting the double exclamation marks on the natural moves 2, 3 and 4. The computer program goofed up there. If it was a balanced assessment, OP would have pointed out that the computer program is _clearly_ wrong here.
@glenmenas9424
@glenmenas9424 Жыл бұрын
I would've made all four of those moves in that position. There's nothing unusual about that to me
@RobertFierce
@RobertFierce Жыл бұрын
I'm not a Hans fan, in fact I'm a Magnus fan but what I'm seeing on the screen just makes sense from a player of his caliber. How can this prove anything? it's just normal moves.
@loganlabbe9767
@loganlabbe9767 Жыл бұрын
I noticed all the commentators are extremely hesitant to say they think he cheated publically
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
Yeah but even privately I don’t think that’s the prevailing view. Like sure he cheated online some years back but the mainstream view as far as I’m aware is that he hasn’t cheated OTB. Certainly zero evidence to support that he has
@loganlabbe9767
@loganlabbe9767 Жыл бұрын
@@epicchess2021 I certainly wouldnt know any better but all evidence is going to be circumstantial barring finding some kind of device on his person.
@gonogazz
@gonogazz Жыл бұрын
No one can beat the Beads Gambit opening..takes you to a dark place..narrow full of..corn..?
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 Жыл бұрын
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