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$150 Steely Dan audiophile records? So much for bringing down the BS Vinyl Community

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Robert Fithen

Robert Fithen

Жыл бұрын

Well, I warned you. High BS equals high mark-up. The digital-hating audiophiles that were fooled by Mobile Fidelity for over a decade now get more respect than ever. So the Vinyl Community did not bring down the BS and now we have $150 Steely Dan records coming soon. Sigh (This video is not about ALL audiophiles, just the ones that claimed they could sniff out digital sources and belittled others as not being TRUE collectors, etc.)

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@67Pepper
@67Pepper Жыл бұрын
Dude, you just held up a MOFI Aja that you overpaid for. Hilarious. Can't wait for your "Women pay HOW MUCH for these purses"!
@RobertFithen
@RobertFithen Жыл бұрын
Dude, that was in a box that I bought back in the 90's for $10 (about 15 records). Swings and misses are hilarious.
@RobertFithen
@RobertFithen Жыл бұрын
So then you go back and edit your comment to add something about purses? Strike 2.
@67Pepper
@67Pepper Жыл бұрын
@@RobertFithen Sure it was, hypocrite much?
@RobertFithen
@RobertFithen Жыл бұрын
You're just not very good at this. According to you I paid premium price for an upgrade album that I don't even like. Doesn't make a lot of sense, but random trolls rarely do. Strike 3.
@67Pepper
@67Pepper Жыл бұрын
@@RobertFithen HA, Ha, you just called me a troll for calling you out on hypocrisy. Now you say that you bought an album you don't even like. I'm not sure whether to laugh at you or just feel sorry for you. Take care of yourself. I actually thought you were funny for about a minute. Keep up the silly banter.
@jeffbrown2982
@jeffbrown2982 Жыл бұрын
Is some law of physics violated when you play a $150.00 record on a $100.00 turntable?
@RobertFithen
@RobertFithen Жыл бұрын
In a house full of noise.
@jeffbrown2982
@jeffbrown2982 Жыл бұрын
@@Matasky2010 As long as the hideously expensive L.P. survives...
@saford13
@saford13 Жыл бұрын
Yes, it’s called the law of Inverse Idiocracy 😅 Thank you … good night!
@keithmichael112
@keithmichael112 Жыл бұрын
it's like combining matter and antimatter, just be careful
@varsityathlete9927
@varsityathlete9927 Жыл бұрын
this is happening a lot. many clients come into vinyl, get a cheapo player as a gift. end up spending 100s on records.
@toneslotohnz4540
@toneslotohnz4540 Жыл бұрын
Dude, you're killing me! And I say this as a hardcore Steely Dan fan: nobody who buys those $150 Steely Dan albums will be buying those albums for the first time. So you figure $150 for the Acoustic Sounds pressings is nothing since they've probably already bought the albums on regular vinyl, Japanese vinyl, MoFi vinyl, cassettes, 8-tracks, quadraphonic vinyl, Japanese SACDs, the DTS cd's, and DVD-A ... just to possibly hear a single sound they've never heard on the albums before. Even if that sound is Fagen's little fart before the second verse of Fire In The Hole (it's there, I swear... that's where they got the song's title. But you can only hear it on the Japanese SACD, with certified audiophile-quality headphones and a super high-end system... totally worth it though...). Thanks for the laugh...
@RobertFithen
@RobertFithen Жыл бұрын
Still trying to catch that high of hearing their favorite album for the first time when they were teenagers. Buying issue after issue after issue.
@machavez00
@machavez00 Жыл бұрын
@@RobertFithen I had Aja on 8 track. I listened to it on an Audiovox under dash player in my sister’s VW bug. I had a pair of bookshelf speakers laying face up behind the rear seat, sounded pretty darn good. Cachunked between tracks.
@heifetz14
@heifetz14 Жыл бұрын
Fagen farts in a highly musical way. Ed Sheeran farts are lacking in musical quality.
@mondoenterprises6710
@mondoenterprises6710 Жыл бұрын
Totally worth it! LOL.
@rayc4244
@rayc4244 Жыл бұрын
Amen, brother. I stopped buying new records when they reached 35$. Enough is enough.
@marcbenjamin9436
@marcbenjamin9436 Жыл бұрын
I paid $4 for the Aja vinyl 45 years ago. I still have it. And, I play it and it sounds fine.
@Glorygood56
@Glorygood56 Жыл бұрын
I have three Aja pressings. The one that sounds best was 1 dollar at Goodwill and the vinyl is flawless.
@olegariomartinez6807
@olegariomartinez6807 Жыл бұрын
This is why I buy mostly vintage vinyl and if new and priced sky-high, I buy the cd instead.
@alanrogs3990
@alanrogs3990 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. For example, Steely Dan 70's pressing are still out there and cheap.
@mikepahlow5009
@mikepahlow5009 Жыл бұрын
“The Royal Scam”…😂😂😂😂
@vinylrichie007
@vinylrichie007 Жыл бұрын
For a new record, over $40 is my jumping off point.
@Chasing_records
@Chasing_records Жыл бұрын
I agree man. If it’s multi disk maybe $48 but I still feel a bit foolish seeing how the cds usually sound just as good for $5 off of eBay 😂
@Jake-2011-
@Jake-2011- Жыл бұрын
This is the only channel tell us what most of us feel about the the ridiculous price. Earn my subscription.
@vintageaudioemporium
@vintageaudioemporium Жыл бұрын
I know so many salesmen on YT. This video is refreshing
@Pauldjreadman
@Pauldjreadman Жыл бұрын
America is NOT the only country, ooooooh no :)
@12stringblues
@12stringblues Жыл бұрын
I put a $50 limit on myself for any single LP but usually will try not to spend over $30 unless its a really special album to me. I started spending $60 for the (2 disk 45rpm) version of some of my favorite albums but then I stopped thinking that was a crazy price for just one album. If you have a top 10 list or a favorite band I say splurge on the best copy but if you are going to keep collecting you have to have a budget that is reasonable (following the law of diminishing returns). Thanks for the video!
@chrislrenaud
@chrislrenaud Жыл бұрын
I also just discovered your channel, Robert. It’s fun hanging out with you virtually here. Dig your sense of humor, common sense perspectives, and what’s this other thing I’m trying to say… ego- and trend-chasing-free approach. Thanks for the channel!
@itsjim2875
@itsjim2875 Жыл бұрын
You're right - recent generations seem to appreciate one's ability to fool others. They praise the sneakiness. I still rummage through LA area (used) record stores and enjoy picking up oldies, but goodies at $3-$5 each, though I have paid $100 for a rather rare Japanese pressing jazz LP. That's about my upper limit. I do not see myself ever spending over that, especially for anything new.
@michaelscott8992
@michaelscott8992 Жыл бұрын
The ability to fool others...and then have the nerve to hide behind, "hey, that's just good business". And then the fools nodding their heads as if apologizing to and "for" the ones screwing them. It's the culmination of a weak, sad, and sick society. I have no faith in the new palace guards, and reminded how more screwed up everything is becoming because of them.
@budsmoker4201120
@budsmoker4201120 6 ай бұрын
They're idiots in every generation, one should not make broad sweeping statements.
@contemporaryhomeaudio
@contemporaryhomeaudio Жыл бұрын
The fear of missing out is very high in the VC. Great video, you called it like it is.
@mickschnabel
@mickschnabel Жыл бұрын
yep, FOMO aplenty for sure!
@Glorygood56
@Glorygood56 Жыл бұрын
FOMO… you nailed it. And the store owners and pressing companies milk that for all it’s worth.
@6inchpianist
@6inchpianist Жыл бұрын
$150 Steely Dan albums make me wanna buy more CD’s. Great video, Robert 👌
@dkeener13
@dkeener13 Жыл бұрын
I just paid $50 for a sealed double LP of Julius Hemphill's Dogon A.D. The CD is pretty rare and goes for close to that, and it's a favorite recording of mine. That's about my upper limit.
@marymullings3823
@marymullings3823 Жыл бұрын
ok, just found your channel. Absolutely love you! My husband would pay $40 and I would pay 30. Keep your stories coming, they are fantastic. Keep safe
@RobertFithen
@RobertFithen Жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Жыл бұрын
Robert i am there with you. 100% my thoughts exactly. Can i ask you a question. Do you think high vinyl prices its because the sellers are worried on the diminishing crowds and want to CASH OUT FAST? In my country (latin america) this crap is getting ridiculous.
@voicesofvinyl
@voicesofvinyl Жыл бұрын
Chad said in a livestream on 45rpm's channel that they will eventually be pressing the Steely Dan catalog on standard vinyl (similar to Two Against Nature/Everything Must Go) using the same metal parts, which is likely what I will be waiting for. I have some amazing sounding Japanese copies that will last me until then.
@yousellouts
@yousellouts Жыл бұрын
Not true. The 33 editions are going to be from digital files mastered by Bernie Grundman.
@tanduay64
@tanduay64 Жыл бұрын
You're 100% on point with your take of this. I'm a Steely Dan fan and when I saw that these "audiophile" pressings were priced at 150+ each.....just laughed. Someone will buy them...and feel the need to justify their purchase, but I think most of the VC realizes what's gong on here. $150 new releases...remixes...remasters...outtakes and live albums, the easy money grabs seem to out number and over shadow the actual new music releases. It'll stop when people decide they've had enough and just don't buy this stuff anymore. I try and use common sense on purchases..new stuff ...maybe 40-45, used it really depends on the record. Really enjoy your videos, looking forward to the next one.
@MTrainRadio
@MTrainRadio Жыл бұрын
Haha... love this. Your humour is great. Wait for the Universal ones coming out - around 30$ in the US... probably £30 in the UK. I'm fascinated to hear/own some Audiophile albums to see if they are as good as some say... and have ordered a few things from Chad... but this wont stop me buying digital releases too.
@happyhippythevinylguy
@happyhippythevinylguy Жыл бұрын
Great video man!! I'm at $50 for a single album, I mean come on $150 is just outrageous. Like you said box sets are different it's a whole different ball game when it comes to box sets. Really enjoyed this video man!!!!
@manchesterexplorer8519
@manchesterexplorer8519 Жыл бұрын
Vinyl Box sets are also redundant , most come with CD's that nobody really wants if your buying a " vinyl" box set . Also come with a book that you may look at once , a poster that you will never use and some type of " small worthless trinket thats mass produced in China . A good Vinyl box set comes with records and no fluff .
@thierrydefrance7220
@thierrydefrance7220 Жыл бұрын
Hi Robert, wonderful video as usual. I only buy used vinyls, at least I am sure they are 100% analog and 20 bucks is my upper limit. And I see prices going up ridiculously in garage sales in France for uninteresting records in bad shape with a ragged cover. Total hype.
@michaelscott8992
@michaelscott8992 Жыл бұрын
$20, good for you Robert. People either have more money than they have sense or deserve, or no respect for the money they've worked hard for. A strange culture we've become.
@marksmusicobsession
@marksmusicobsession Жыл бұрын
Man I loved this video. I jump out about $75 max for a new single LP reprint release. I am a self confessed music nut and do have a nice collection of vinyl but I mainly use digital source from my own digital library and streaming services
@Astulock86
@Astulock86 Жыл бұрын
You're a riot, thanks for the insight and opinions. I'm a mostly digital guy, so my vinyl ceiling is 40 bucks or so. I'm a sometime flipper, too. Hanging onto some sealed copies of modern music so I can scalp it for 25x the price by 2050 :D
@rocdocs
@rocdocs Жыл бұрын
Jeez man. Thats too much. I paid $50 for a Music Matters Bill Withers double record this weekend. That was about my top price, comfortably.
@jroc2427
@jroc2427 Жыл бұрын
Well done…you are spot on. I actually ordered Can’t Buy A Thrill…but after deep consideration, I removed my purchase of as I have a great copy and with shipping + tax from Acoustic Sounds, is a $190 album really going to wow me as I will only listen to a few times per year. I did buy Miles Davis Kind of Blue UHQR 33 1/3. Sounds great but have other versions that sound killer. As a former recording engineer working with Prince, Replacements, Soul Asylum…all pends upon your system and $$$. Sure these HQ albums can be outstanding…but more than often you can and should be able to find a great vinyl version of excellent audiable quality. I would sit with anyone at any system and listen/discuss audible variations!
@groundzero6662
@groundzero6662 9 ай бұрын
If you worked on 'and the horse they rode in on' thanks, one of my favorite albums of all time.
@ralphalder14
@ralphalder14 Жыл бұрын
The most I’ve ever spent on an album here in the UK is £50, and that’s was for something I’ve wanted for ages. Above that price I can’t justify it
@keithmichael112
@keithmichael112 Жыл бұрын
if it's genuinely rare it's somewhat justified
@agfagaevart
@agfagaevart Жыл бұрын
25 quid for an LP by Asha Puthli, on pink vinyl. :-0
Жыл бұрын
You have the best VC channel of all KZfaq Robert. I’m from Spain and I can certify that the reputation phenomena you mention also happens here, if not more.
@Chrisdrumz
@Chrisdrumz Жыл бұрын
There was a time(perhaps 2 weeks ago) when one of your new vids would pop up on my feed and I'd think to myself "Cool, I'll watch that later." Now though,when one of 'em pops up it's "I am watching this NOW." A complete joy. Funny,informative, sometimes even.......TORTUROUS but definitely entertaining!✌️
@bipbopboom
@bipbopboom Жыл бұрын
The KISS record on your wall only gives you more credibility in my book. And I’m not joking. Another honest and entertaining video, Robert!! Cheers!!!
@jeffl915
@jeffl915 Жыл бұрын
Kiss is a horrible rock band, with mediocre talent at best. I won’t say they have no music I like, but most of it is crap. They were all about marketing their look.
@Sam-yg1kv
@Sam-yg1kv 3 ай бұрын
Great video. I discovered your channel a few days ago and this video seems beautifully rational to me. Let me tell you what the situation is like in my country (Chile, South America). Here, if you want a vinyl with the best sound, you are looking for an economical copy that is closest to the master tape, that is, an OG, in the best conditions, and that do not exceed US 100. That is what 99% of Chilean collectors do, or at least, 100% of the groups of collectors that I know in my country. A big hug from Chile.
@Axel_Foley1970
@Axel_Foley1970 Жыл бұрын
You are so hilarious and truthful at the same time. You had me crying laughing. It was great seeing you at the Record show. Keep up the awesome videos!! Keepin it real!!
@christi186
@christi186 Жыл бұрын
This was a great video and I was happy to see it because I've felt disgusted about these releases, $125 is crazy anyway but $150? My OG Steely Dan pressings sound phenomenal and I don't think I paid over $20 for any of them. Steely Dan were known for being incredibly picky about the sound quality of their releases and now our OG's will be considered less than or not that good in the audiophile circles?? Give me a break, I love records and I actually love SD but this has really shined a spotlight on how badly we are all being taken advantage of.
@sunforest2016
@sunforest2016 Жыл бұрын
€25-35 max. Prices here in Europe are slowly creeping up but going direct through artist websites or the labels you can still get good deals. Mind you I only really collect indie so there’s your saving right there.
@jeronronnunkoffunk4691
@jeronronnunkoffunk4691 Жыл бұрын
Yep my top number for these new overpriced pressings is definitely under $100, excluding rare and hard to find vinyl as you’ve said. I help out some friends in the audio and electronics section of their record store. I can attest to this outlandish pricing even they’re outraged by the costs. they do well at staying in reasonable prices be , they share similar philosophy as you about this and have taught me much. I’m seeing this really exercised at other stores with wildly high priced used and new common artist pressings. I am seeing trend similar in vintage audio where people charging excessive prices for some certain units that are far from being high end regardless of their vintage status! You’re on point and on to something here Doc!! Great broadcast!!👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾🔥
@ChrisPropfeMusicallyObsessed
@ChrisPropfeMusicallyObsessed Жыл бұрын
Really random question….do you use inner and outer sleeves on your albums?
@RobertFithen
@RobertFithen Жыл бұрын
I use outer sleeves on albums that can be easily damaged because of cut outs in the cover such as "Black Caesar" and "Physical Graffiti". Also on the sandpaper cover of Durutti Column. I use poly inner sleeves for albums with cardboard inner sleeves or collectible records.
@danielphillips7537
@danielphillips7537 Жыл бұрын
If a vinyl album I want costs more than $25, then I will buy the CD version for $12 or thereabouts. On my budget, over-priced food has to take priority.
@KraigWeiss
@KraigWeiss Жыл бұрын
Great video, again! I think, like everything else, my high number would always depend on the artist and the album. I’m a huge Springsteen fan and most of his early albums sound like crap, so a fully remastered album might get me to shell out some cash.
@userNULL
@userNULL Жыл бұрын
I like vinyl because i like hearing it crackle. I literally spend so much just for the aesthetic. and to make audiophiles REALLY angry... i play the audio out of a cheap Studebaker radio through the aux jack 😁
@greyhoundude6112
@greyhoundude6112 6 ай бұрын
Yeah? Well I play all of my vinyl, new or used, on my $79.95 Crosley record player that I bought at my local Rite Aid.
@davidlg0478
@davidlg0478 Жыл бұрын
I am European and the BS here is bad also particularly with the additional postage and customs charges to buy any AP product. It amuses me that in particular Michael Ludwig and Michael Esposito, who both own hifi systems that equate to the price of a small house, were caught with their trousers down as they could not tell the difference between digital and analogue. Neither of them owned up or acknowledged that to their subscribers. If anything they have become more smug in their video presentations. In particular Michael Ludwig is now in a place where Chad Kassem uses him to publicise his new products knowing that ML will be gushing about them. I might pay a premium for one of my favourite albums but the thought of six Steely Dan albums on UHQR does not excite me at all. Love your channel. Really good honest video.
@RobertFithen
@RobertFithen Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you're one of the people who truly get the point of my video. Thanks!!
@TheHSIHP
@TheHSIHP Жыл бұрын
The In Groove guy is insufferable. If you really want a laugh, check out how much people are paying for records in his Whatnot auctions.
@christopherklinck
@christopherklinck Жыл бұрын
Love this. Thankfully most of my stuff is punk rock, which is still (usually) in the $15-$25 range.
@scottied7299
@scottied7299 Жыл бұрын
Yo! When you started singing Kurtis Blow, you had me. But I'm in complete agreement of your message. Unless Steely Dan materializes in my house when I play "Can't Buy A Thrill", 150 bucks an album(?!) is rather steep.
@nicksvinylbutty5488
@nicksvinylbutty5488 Жыл бұрын
I think $150 is around £120 ??? I'd like to think I'm strong willed enough not to buy a record for that much !!! Good to see someone actually saying what he thinks about this bloody farce....liked and subscribed 👍👍👍
@gdwlaw5549
@gdwlaw5549 Жыл бұрын
closer to £ 148
@scottfowler2563
@scottfowler2563 Жыл бұрын
Hi Rob, In UK SD UHQRs are now £200 each ($241) I dropped out when the AS Jethro Tull Stand Up sells for £75 ($90)
@excelexpert2085
@excelexpert2085 Жыл бұрын
I am retired so $30...for something really special.
@yyman23
@yyman23 Жыл бұрын
I love your videos, Robert! Now, I did pay $150 plus shipping and tax for Miles Davis' 'Kind Of Blue', but I could never find a nice vintage copy, so it is what it is (it sounds amazing though). But I would never pay even $15 for Steely Dan. It's just not my jam. You're right though, it's all about supply and demand. Just like the crazy cost of concert tickets. I guess we all have to pick and choose what we spend our money on. Love the videos, your room looks awesome and by the way, is that an autographed STP No. 4 album flat?
@TheHSIHP
@TheHSIHP Жыл бұрын
I found a nice 70s pressing for 20 bucks. Sounds great
@steelyman08
@steelyman08 9 ай бұрын
UHQR. "Aja" available Oct. 27th. Analog only. No digital. $150. I'm happy enough with my remasters, but am very curious about these "undoubtedly" superior recordings. Will they be seriously better? Is it for real in a true & spellbinding way that permits you to hear what you've never experienced before ~ as if you're literally getting it from the studio? I'm assuming you need a very decent set up to benefit from such releases in a way that makes it worthwhile? Arguments all over the online communities (which speaks volumes in itself!). So, yes, I love Steely Dan, but this isn't just going to be about them obviously (strange to hear someone slamming their music?). Anyone have any truly objective feedback? Thanks in advance.
@Raypirri
@Raypirri Жыл бұрын
Hey Robert. Thanks for saying it and keeping it real. Too much focus now is on having to have the latest UHQR or AP or MFSL release otherwise nothing recorded in the past is any good. How marketing is taking over our passion... I know that my original records still sound fabulous today like they did when I bought them and for only $5.99-$10.00 AUD (which was still a lot of money too)
@michaelscott8992
@michaelscott8992 Жыл бұрын
Deepest respect. It hasn't been about asking a fair price for a good product in decades, mainly because they discovered they don't have to and enough buying public has demonstrated they have little respect for their own money. If I was in the industry releasing albums with free enterprise on my side, this market would be a wet dream. Can't believe so many people are happy going broke getting splooged on.
@davidheafield1436
@davidheafield1436 Жыл бұрын
Great rant ….here’s my take on what’s happened….by the way I’m U.K. On the whole , I’ll repeat , on the whole , we here in the U.K. we’re getting great pressings from the various U.K. record labels throughout the glory years of the 60’s and 70’s ….we didn’t realise that every other country weren’t necessarily getting the same great quality pressings. So come the advent of the internet information age and accessibility that eBay gave everybody a lot of Americans came to realise what shite quality they had been served up in comparison to other countries …. That’s when these “audiophile” companies realised in that by taking their time with pressings and exerting a bit more QC with what they were producing they could charge large premiums to a largely American fan base by giving them what other countries were already getting by default…..good pressings! The circle wanks that often occur on the likes of the Hoffmann forums only goes on to breed more people into their mutual masturbation ranks …..to use the age old adage , …..in the Kingdom of the blind the one-eyed man is King.
@J4060
@J4060 Жыл бұрын
Very well said. Right on.
@EmbryonicRobot
@EmbryonicRobot Жыл бұрын
I only have one "audiophile" record, which I found in a thrift shop. Honestly, I don't think my aging ears can tell the difference.
@crunchyfrog555
@crunchyfrog555 Жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with that. I wish more people were as honest. I've trained as an audio engineer but I'd never say I have golden ears or even anything close. I simply do this one thing - do I like how it sounds?
@EmbryonicRobot
@EmbryonicRobot Жыл бұрын
@@crunchyfrog555 That is a reasonable approach 🙂
@crunchyfrog555
@crunchyfrog555 Жыл бұрын
@@EmbryonicRobot Yup, it all boils down to keeping it simple and sticking to the facts.
@iamspyvspy3077
@iamspyvspy3077 Жыл бұрын
Most "audiophile" records sound worse than originals
@michaelscott8992
@michaelscott8992 Жыл бұрын
It's not your aging ears my friend, it's called age-related wisdom.
@xcratchy
@xcratchy Жыл бұрын
Tell ‘em, champ!! Also, I hate the term “Audiophile”. Makes it sound like a person molests stereo equipment. I prefer “Audio Aficionado” …and whatever pressings & equipment was good enough for record buyers of the 60s-80s is good enough for me. I don’t care if I can’t hear the second flute in a song that rocks despite this fact.
@Bootradr
@Bootradr Жыл бұрын
You crack me up with the audiophile comment haha! Isn't that like a pedophile that collects bicycle pedals? I probably shouldn't be joking about something that serious but thanks for the laugh! I've always thought it was kind of a snooty sound in word myself. "Do you have any Gray Poupon for the audiophile gentleman with the $5,000 pair of headphones listening to his classical music" :-) Hopefully that Gray Poupon commercial made it around the world in the 1980s?!?
@jeffl915
@jeffl915 Жыл бұрын
Well, the difference is more than a flute, I can tell you that. I think cartridges, and needles have come a long way, and so have speakers.
@homersoddishe
@homersoddishe Жыл бұрын
I bought the Folk Singer One Step for $125. That was my new record limit. Since it didn’t flip my world upside down, I have revised it downward. I guess $60 for a double LP is my current limit. Though I really miss the days of $10-15 LPs.
@JonPickles
@JonPickles Жыл бұрын
I have to say the original Steely Dan sound great no need for these. IMHO of course. Great video again Robert
@vintageaudioemporium
@vintageaudioemporium Жыл бұрын
And your originals are actually all analog too 😂
@NickP333
@NickP333 Жыл бұрын
I own my share of MoFi’s, and I still like em. Gee z… I appreciate your apology for expressing optimism, Robert. That’s big of you to admit. Stand proud, brother! You’ve earned it. I’ve gotta feeling the BS meter is gonna explode and get all over everything. Good thing Steely Dan rates up there with, well… Nothing….I just don’t really like em. Am I supposed to feel guilty? Aja! that’s the most obnoxious and pretentious gatefold I’ve ever seen. Haha 😂 FFS….🤦‍♂️ .I give up…. On that note, if you love Steely Dan that much and a UHQR makes ya happy, then do it.
@user-wx9ky9lr1y
@user-wx9ky9lr1y Жыл бұрын
Excellent video and very blunt and honest -yes everyone is getting screwed and buying at these prices feeds the machine‼️ keep telling the truth please! I have steely’s complete back catalog so will be passing off course!
@bmwheeler1atverizon
@bmwheeler1atverizon Жыл бұрын
Thank you again for at least trying to bring the BS level down in the VC! Way too much...it's effing insane! Thank you, Bill
@memyselfmyvinyl894
@memyselfmyvinyl894 Жыл бұрын
I spent $125 on the UHQR Are You Experienced. That is my limit and I have about hit my breaking point with these "audiophile" reissues. I won't be spending the money on Steely Dan records. I have an OG aja and like you said, it sounds great. I got it for free from my mother who bought it back in the 70s. I have also spent $200 on hard to find OG copies of some other stuff recently. Im good with my collection as a whole now for the time being and actually looking to sell some of the stuff I no longer consider essential to it. But prices will continue to rise if people are willing to pay it.
@DismasM
@DismasM Жыл бұрын
I found it funny that the 'lost master tapes' were found just in time to create these releases right on the heels of the MoFi scandal. I'm not saying anything nefarious is going on with these Steely Dan releases... it's just ironic and worth a laugh. BTW, I've sourced all of my current Steely Dan collection (I have them all through Gaucho) on the used market for around $15 each. One (this one, anyway) has to wonder: The Steely Dan OGs sound so damn good, how much better will they sound at 10x$? Not 10X, I promise you that. Not even 2X. "A little more clarity in the transient detail..." or some shit like that.
@bradferguson9840
@bradferguson9840 Жыл бұрын
In Australia there’s a thing called the ‘tall poppy’ syndrome, where if someone gets too big for their boots (out of control ego) we cut them down size. It seems to work.
@varsityathlete9927
@varsityathlete9927 Жыл бұрын
when is that happening in victoria
@michaelscott8992
@michaelscott8992 Жыл бұрын
People have always had the power to control almost anything they want, just not the collective desire and will to do it. It's called spending power. When we withhold they can't do this, when we show enough are fine with it because of no self-control we get $150 new releases and everything else including used prices sky rocket as well.
@mladenbasic1
@mladenbasic1 Жыл бұрын
Maaaaaan are you entertaining to watch. Your facial expressions alone make me laugh my ass off! Keep it up!
@rocdocs
@rocdocs Жыл бұрын
NAME NAMES ROB! And pass the ocean-grown sativa!
@thierrydefrance7220
@thierrydefrance7220 Жыл бұрын
We all think of the same obnoxious know-it-all pretentious guy...
@crazyprayingmantis5596
@crazyprayingmantis5596 Жыл бұрын
@@thierrydefrance7220 Glasses?
@drbryant23
@drbryant23 Жыл бұрын
Very entertaining. The world needs the non-audiophile vinyl collectors that haunt used record stores that have concrete floors and that wonderful dusty, mildew-like smell, and talk to store employees and other customers about their latest finds. The world also needs audiophiles who go to audio shows to see a new equipment and have seen the Sonus Faber factory outside of Milan. Good, interesting folks in both worlds.
@RobertFithen
@RobertFithen Жыл бұрын
Yep. What we don't need is smug, self-satisfied people belittling others, claiming they're the only real deal, refusing to admit when they've been called out and only profiting because of it. I have plenty of friends on here who are audiophiles, who I refer to for advice, not these bullshit artists I was referring to in the video.
@nicholas6823
@nicholas6823 Жыл бұрын
Aja and Gaucho uhqrs are being taken from safe copies as the orginals were lost. I have the CBAT uhqr and plan on getting RS, Aja and Gaucho. For me they cost nearly double, so I have to be at least a little selective…
@Jiji-the-cat5425
@Jiji-the-cat5425 Жыл бұрын
Honestly would not pay more than 45 bucks for a double LP, and that’s pushing it. Paying up 150 dollars on a record is completely bonkers. I’m so thankful for voices of reason like you. These snobby audiophiles are the main reason why I avoid interacting with much of the vinyl community. The vinyl subreddit has some of the most toxic people I’ve seen of any fandom. People there are so harsh and condescending towards one another, which irritates me so much.
@continentalgin
@continentalgin Жыл бұрын
People are paying stupid prices for concert tickets, too. In many venues, there are no seats. So, you're not paying $150 per concert ticket for a seat. You don't get a seat. You just get to stand there for 3 hours.
@agomodern
@agomodern Жыл бұрын
Ever notice at concerts when everyone is sitting and then stands up for the show the space for concert goers goes up about 1/3? Just think how much more money they can make with standing room only in a theater of say 30,000 seats.
@yyman23
@yyman23 Жыл бұрын
@@agomodern don't give Ticketmaster and live nation any ideas... Thank goodness for fire codes.
@niallms83
@niallms83 Жыл бұрын
My price has long passed. I was recently shopping for the George Michael - Older reissue. Great album which I've always wanted to own on vinyl. $78 AUD to pre-order. I went to a thrift shop and bought the CD for $2 instead. Same story with The Mars Volta - Deloused reissue. $85 at my local record store. Found it on CD for $4.
@glennsmusicchannel
@glennsmusicchannel Жыл бұрын
I just paid $9 for a used MOFI George Benson Breezin album. That's about right.
@ricefieldrecords
@ricefieldrecords Жыл бұрын
Here’s my hypothesis. Whereas they are not publications, they are influencers and they are instantaneous posters: Methinks the KZfaq pundits with >10K subs are amplifying the chatter on these things because they get them for free as promo’s. No money is exchanged but they get theirs from KZfaq and the boxed stuff for their own personal collections or to flip down the road.
@michaelscott8992
@michaelscott8992 Жыл бұрын
No one would admit that but I won't argue that. There's way too many KZfaq channels with any hack posing as some kind of expert. The time they spend doing it speaks for itself that there's a strong motivation far more than just "sharing" their "expertise". It's a very strange phenomenon, much like a $150 record is.
@richard8417
@richard8417 Жыл бұрын
A wise man once told me: "never underestimate the stupidity of people and realise half of them are even more stupid"
@richmoreno9938
@richmoreno9938 Жыл бұрын
$40 tops for something that’s rare and out of print. Also, I love the reference to “Cooter” and that some people watching this vid won’t know who that character is. #80’sTV 😂 #bringdownthebullshit
@RobertFithen
@RobertFithen Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure how many people got the "A.J. Scratch" reference either.
@albundy666
@albundy666 Жыл бұрын
I have never spent over $50 on any individual vinyl album, original or re-issue. I still have over 95% of the vinyl I need. I bought my entire sound system for less than a grand, and my 62 year old ears wouldn’t appreciate it if I spent more. Not to mention I don’t have enough time left to get my money’s worth out of a $200 album.
@B.B.Amsterdam
@B.B.Amsterdam Жыл бұрын
Say it Loud, I'm Bibi and I'm proud..not to have any audiophile record around.💪🏾🤓
@shahzadalam2081
@shahzadalam2081 Жыл бұрын
I was excited about the news that Chad is doing all the new Steely Dan's but when I found out he's charging $150 per album I was pissed - he should have just released them on his 45 RPM format on 2 lps where Acoustic Sounds charges average of $60 - now that I can handle but at $150 for UHQR forget it
@bshah4831
@bshah4831 Жыл бұрын
About 2 years ago after a significant update to my turntable, I shared with my hifi buddy that I seemed to prefer all my old 70s and 80s pressings to modern reissues. I now understand most have a digital step and the worst was Aja Back to Black pressing. I did buy MOFI original masters assuming they were pure analogue but never noticed a material improvement.
@MsKalachakra
@MsKalachakra Жыл бұрын
Very few record collectors in my country, everytime I go to a record fair I know or are friends with almost everyone there. No one knows here in Guatemala what a MoFi is, was trying to explain it last time we hanged out what MOFi Gate was, nobody cared. Of course no one in Guatemala, in his right mind is going to buy a $100.00 or $150.00 record, we have to pay extra shipping and taxes. I don't buy new releases anymore but I used to pay between $20.00 and $25.00. I remember buying the Angel Witch's reissue (their first album) for $26.00 including shipping about two years ago. That is the most I paid for a record and I have a pretty big vinyl colection. The Steely Dan's albums I bought them used for about $2.00 each. Bullshit is up my friend and that sucks, I was with you on that video but now we have brand celebrity status VC members thanks to MoFi Gate lol. And also we have now even higher prices, Putin with his stupid war and some VC members managed to bring prices up.
@jt-hn6ur
@jt-hn6ur Жыл бұрын
Great video! I said the same thing when I heard about it. I commented on a video a audiophile made and got attacked. The originals already sound excellent and can be found no problem cheap.
@timemer3068
@timemer3068 Жыл бұрын
One of the most entertaining rants I've seen!! 👍👍
@archiemacdonald553
@archiemacdonald553 Жыл бұрын
just subscribed to your channel .Great comments .I don't do vinyl cds are what I do since 1984 .the price we pay for vinyl in the UK 🇬🇧 is outrageous 😳 .long live 💿 cd greetings from Scotland .🙂🙂🙂
@davidyoung7470
@davidyoung7470 Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad I purchased a Dac. When I play a song on an album and the same song on Spotify. It's very hard to tell which one is playing. That's with someone blocking my amp and switching back and forth. Fifty would be my limit for an album.
@KansasRocker
@KansasRocker Жыл бұрын
Absolutely love your channel. My price limit is the $60 AP 45 RPM releases and even then I am very selective. No way I am paying $150 for any album. Most of the time I look for an original pressing.. Thanks!
@kookamunga2458
@kookamunga2458 Жыл бұрын
I paid a dollar for a Steely Dan Aja and it had a scratch on the last track and I am happy. I buy cds and vinyl. In Canada albums average 30 to 35 bucks . Prices are higher here because of higher sales- tax . I don't think I will ever fork over 150 for vinyl. The most I ever paid is sixty for a semi rare pressing.
@dansmith3085
@dansmith3085 Жыл бұрын
I bought a used copy of the Steely Dan cd box set about 20 years ago, so I'm good.
@therevrockinrollin
@therevrockinrollin Жыл бұрын
I’ll stop paying it when I can’t afford my cocaine anymore. Also, I can’t afford my cocaine anymore. But seriously - if these are raising the prices of the non-bullshit presses versions at Target or local shop that sucks. Target prices are fantastic.
@Jake-2011-
@Jake-2011- Жыл бұрын
$900 USD bill Evans box set!😢
@sidesup8286
@sidesup8286 Жыл бұрын
That was both very entertaining and thought provoking as usual! Re:Royal Scam (the album), I know what they're really after on that one. What they're really after and hoping, is to hear with more clarity that triangle playing in the background on Green Earings.That's what they want.They probably can't wait to hear it with renewed clarity. It can be a little elusive to hear on a regular pressing of The Royal Scam. I first played the triangle in a school play in grade school. I practiced a lot. I am a professional triangle player.The one trick to playing that instrument is not to drop the metal clanger that you strike it with. It can roll. And then what? The kid next to me took all the spotlight away from my triangle playing. by doing one of those Bolshevik dances where they put their hands on their hip and kick their legs high up in front of them; alternating one leg after another. What a showoff! Wait a minute! That's just the kind of person who would buy $150 records. I'll bet he has some of them. Maybe a while collection of them. Can't Buy A Thrill has a cover that's about as weird as Royal Scam. Among other things it has a picture of Charles Atlas. He goes way back to the 1930s I think. His muscle building course was advertised in just about every comic book. That was before they got the idea of doing ads for muscle courses and protein shakes with a bunch of beautiful girls surrounding and pretending to admire the muscular guy. Chad, the owner of Acoustic Sounds, you have to admire him in a way. He started out as just an audiophile, like a lot of us, but unlike any of us, that guy can get big record companies to send their fuc**ng master tapes right to his living room! When listening to records, remember how we dreamed of something like that? Well he ACTUALLY did it! He ACTUALLY pulled it off! That guy is the ultimate audiophile. I know I wouldn't be able to get within 10,000 yards of a master tape. There are 3 kind of guys. The ones who just couldn't even think of paying that much for a record. Then there are the collectors rich enough not to even care what they cost. Then there are the middle ones. Those are the ones I feel sorry for. The ones that can barely afford albums like that and they see it slipping away. Their passion slowly passing out of their reach with those kind of prices. Maybe some of them get a second job just to be able to afford vinyl like that. I know one guy who affords records like that by gambling. He knows all kinds of really bad baseball pitchers, awful football teams, horrid basketball teams; you name it. And he bets against them. They lose and he wins. You should see his collection !
@tomsherwood4650
@tomsherwood4650 Жыл бұрын
Local Walmart is thinning out their LPs greatly now. I almost bought one there once or twice. But I stick to hunting vintage plastic. Mostly estates thrift stores etc. So they got some weird old stuff. So I often broaden my musical exposure with 2 dollar discs. Pop classical and even jazz, but used jazz records seem rare here. I bought some Steely D. records in about mint condx at the thrift store, Somebody brought in a collection of classic rock stuff all missing the jackets. Still in sleeves and clean but no jackets! I got them for play not looks anyway. You know someone could say the analog disc "smooths out" the digital, or something, I suppose to save face. I got the Ry Cooder Bop Till You Drop record when it came out. "The first all digital recorded LP record". I got another copy in recent times and it has a strange sound to it IMO. Tonal balance is weird or something.
@austinjones7104
@austinjones7104 Жыл бұрын
Love the stone temple pilots No 4 in the background, I have a small collection of about 40 records have to agree with you on the self appointed audiophiles whose pretentious nature scare off a lot of people interested in this great hobby.
@TheChadTI
@TheChadTI Жыл бұрын
That album is solid.
@LetThereBeSound1
@LetThereBeSound1 Жыл бұрын
Just to be fair, previous Analogue Productions UHQRs offerings that sold for $125 were single LP affairs. The new 45rpm Kind of Blue UHQR and recently announced Steely Dan series are two-disc / 45rpm editions - thus the increase in price. I am not saying that's excusable. But it had to be said for accuracy's sake. Cheers.
@mr.caramelorecordcollection
@mr.caramelorecordcollection Жыл бұрын
Hey my friend. I'm from Portugal and yes, it happens here too. It's a kind of "crime pays". Stay strong and thanks for your videos.
@Gez492
@Gez492 Жыл бұрын
Can you say what you think the UHQR Steely Dan should cost?
@christopherstrode9180
@christopherstrode9180 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t buy an audiophile record. I will spend $26 for a new record from Walmart, and maybe $30 something for a double. Great video as always!
@TheHSIHP
@TheHSIHP Жыл бұрын
Kind of lame to but at Wal Mart though
@Groucho3321
@Groucho3321 Жыл бұрын
I'm new to vinyl listening (I'm not a collector, I buy what I want to listen) and I just found out about the Mofi debacle. Man, people sure love to argue about the most stupid things. One would think enjoying what makes you happy should be really easy, but apparently, it's not. From assholes that call you out because you cannot afford a $1500 TT, to the purists that judge you because you didn't get Miles Davis super-duper UHQXHD4K edition (I wonder how many of them really like Miles Davis, I don't). So anyway, I try to stay away from forums and "vinyl sommeliers" who seem to have invented the grooves. Nice video BTW, spot on.
@lmontanaable
@lmontanaable Жыл бұрын
Wow so glad you made this video. This has gotta stop. $150US for a record even if UHQR is outrageous . BTW that turns into $205 CDN where I am from
@georgedesjardins6080
@georgedesjardins6080 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see this Trudeau dollar comparison, we all hope this incompetent liberal government gets the boot.
@sinclabs
@sinclabs Жыл бұрын
So snarky and so well done! I laughed so hard. Thx for that! "The problem with common sense is that it's not very common." (Dave Ramsey) Seriously tho... Which wrinkle is it? 😛
@TommysVinylnaut
@TommysVinylnaut Жыл бұрын
Great video. And you are right, the price will be higher in future realeses if this sell well. Usually my price line is 30€, but Blue Notes Tone Poet Records are price here around 50€, that have been priciest albums that I have bought as new LP. I only bought few of those because high price and not planning to buy more.
@anthonycorda7720
@anthonycorda7720 Жыл бұрын
I'm a 72 year old retired man who stupidly gave up his record collection years ago because "CD's are so much better". CD's are good but I have always missed my record jackets, CD booklets just don't compare. So about a year ago I decided to try to get my records back (yes to me they will always be records, not vinyl). I'm on a fixed income and so most of what I purchase are used with some new. I do have a limit on how much I am willing to spend on a record, 10 to 15 for a used and 20 to 25 for new. I have been suprised at what I have found for those prices however I do realize that there are some that I might never be able to afford. My big beef is: I realize that with production costs for newly recorded records the price in this day and age needs to be somewhere in the 30 dollar range but when it comes to new pressings of older records the price shouldn't be more than 20 dollars since there is no longer a cost for the recording process, it's just press the record and sell it. There I've had my say, thank you for reading.
@RobertFithen
@RobertFithen Жыл бұрын
I think a lot of us (myself included) did that when CD's took over. Big regret.
@michaelscott8992
@michaelscott8992 Жыл бұрын
That really spells it out nicely so +1
@shadowofpain8144
@shadowofpain8144 Жыл бұрын
Same shoes, Like many things these days they just want the album worse than I do. At my age I know a fad when I see one. All the same reasons albums were given up before still exist.
@kenweide6083
@kenweide6083 Жыл бұрын
I paid $11 on Electronic Bay a few months ago for Aja AB-1006 pressing. Trying to figure out how a $150 pressing is gonna sound that much better.
@iamspyvspy3077
@iamspyvspy3077 Жыл бұрын
"Audiophile", "Remastered", "Half-speed remaster" etc - keywords that mean it will probably sound worse 😆
@michaelscott8992
@michaelscott8992 Жыл бұрын
If you got a clean and relatively quiet copy, you may have a BETTER version than what some will receive for $150.
@michaelscott8992
@michaelscott8992 Жыл бұрын
@@iamspyvspy3077 Yes, though there are exceptions, big red flags those words are!
@kenweide6083
@kenweide6083 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelscott8992 I have 3 AB1006. They all sound fantastic. However...I'll prolly still by the UHQR.
@stefanmansson6734
@stefanmansson6734 Жыл бұрын
Stefan from Sweden here. In the real record store you pay about $5 for a descent record with no broad attention Then the more desirable albums go for $10-20 In some cases the rare and seldom seen reach for higher prices. The "sell-out-sale" with cut corners you could find during the eighties are now gone. You could find a vinyl record for as low as 50cent or $1. There were lots of unsellable records but also some gems if you were lucky
@TheHSIHP
@TheHSIHP Жыл бұрын
I can't wait for the antique mall episode. I just subscribed. So glad someone is telling the truth. I was dying laughing when people where paying $150 for fucking Thriller! There are so many copies of that album out there, you can probably find them in the moon. And they sound great already! Not to be a pessimist about it all, I will say Blue Note's classic series is how you do it. 25 dollar, great sounding reissues
@cliffordthevinylcheapskate351
@cliffordthevinylcheapskate351 Жыл бұрын
I think this is hilarious I rarely buy new records but I noticed alot of punk labels can still charge less the 20 bux a record for new releases so its 100% just corporations trying to see how much people will pay. My price is $30. Used records haven't been too terribly priced most of the time but there's definitely popular artists that come at a premium that aren't even close to rare.
@duanesmith1523
@duanesmith1523 Жыл бұрын
Love your videos. You are 100% correct. Think it’s time to stop buying. It’s gotten ridiculous.
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