[153] Kwikset SmartKey Rim Cylinder Picked and Gutted

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LockPickingLawyer

LockPickingLawyer

8 жыл бұрын

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@smithfamilydesigns2012
@smithfamilydesigns2012 3 жыл бұрын
I was wondering how the re-key worked for these locks. Very clever.
@paolociccone4024
@paolociccone4024 2 жыл бұрын
Truly an amazing demonstration of this lock. I like that you don’t just pick the lock but you really show us the inner workings. I don’t know how safe this kind of locks are, but you can’t help admiring the ingenuity of their mechanism.
@brandonsamson6278
@brandonsamson6278 Жыл бұрын
As a novice lock pick myself this is one of the most difficult home locks I’ve encountered. Accidentally locked myself out of my home and was proud to have my lock pick kit in my car. Took me over an hour to get it picked 😆 though.
@aurelienyonrac
@aurelienyonrac Жыл бұрын
@@brandonsamson6278 thank you. It is the proof that it can be done
@Trump985
@Trump985 Жыл бұрын
It really doesn’t matter how good a lock is if your putting it on a regular house door. No criminal is going to mess with a lock let alone pick it if the door can simply be kicked in with ease in a fraction of a second. Put an armored door on the house and they will simply break a window. Unless you are willing to live in an armored bunker locks are almost useless. I’ve seen doors kicked in that weren’t even locked!
@rayvanlandingham7218
@rayvanlandingham7218 22 күн бұрын
​@Trump985 Not for sure, there are too many home doors that can be opened with a paperclip wave rake.
@locktalk2770
@locktalk2770 5 жыл бұрын
Lock Picking Lawyer. This is a bit dated, and I would love to see you breakdown the latest generation of this lock. The Kwikset Gen3 of this lock CANNOT be single pin picked in the way you're doing here. Their system has been vastly improved with a sidebar that keeps wafers from binding individually in SPP picking. Only after all the wafers are to shear does the sidebar fall into place allowing the plug to turn. That said, others have been able to pick this lock by tensioning the sidebar with a shim. I have tries this technique, and on the latest models I can get some wafers to bind, but I still can't pick it. There is also a decoding tool for this, and you can cut a key by finding the kwikset depth codes which a special magnifier decoding tool will allow you to do with practice. This tool costs 300.00 dollars though! I'd love to get your professional feedback on the latest version of Kwikset's cylinder in the smartkey version. I want to see if you can pick it, or provide additional tips and feedback to us fellow follow lock nerds!
@Manatee360Phototography
@Manatee360Phototography 5 жыл бұрын
Never tell lock picking lawyer that he can't spp something. But i kinda want to try the new one when i hit up home depot i may pick one up
@pufthemajicdragon
@pufthemajicdragon 5 жыл бұрын
@@Manatee360Phototography "Never tell lock picking lawyer that he can't spp something." I laughed so hard 8D
@tseawell90
@tseawell90 5 жыл бұрын
A new video was posted addressing the sidebar version and how it can be picked
@jonengen2927
@jonengen2927 4 жыл бұрын
In case anyone else comes across this thread, it’s ep 904 and reviews the model 3 with reverse sidebar
@petripat5979
@petripat5979 4 жыл бұрын
@@jonengen2927 hey thanks
@KDP_Beaver
@KDP_Beaver 3 жыл бұрын
I realize this is a four year old video, but I wanted to thank you. I got one of these given to me this last Christmas. Just something handed to me, because it didn’t have a key. Because of this video, I learned about the side bar, which is why I couldn’t get any feedback from trying to pick, and it also gave me the confidence to gut the lock, set it for a new key, and get it back together. So again, thank you for this video. You turned something to mess around with, to something I can use.
@daisyruin
@daisyruin 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this description. I had one for a few months and only managed one open on it. Tension seemed to just bind the whole plug so I had to work very light. This helps, your technique for picking it more like a car door than a house lock, it makes sense. This is almost how you'd use a Lishi pick.
@lockpickinglawyer
@lockpickinglawyer 8 жыл бұрын
+Shira Assel Thanks. I have no experience with car locks at all. As for binding the whole core, I've only tried three of these locks, and only one was like that... I've seen huge variation in the depths of the false gates, so that may be why.
@Jonathan-SW89
@Jonathan-SW89 6 жыл бұрын
Love that dude telling us what you're feeling and what you're doing and tension and whatever's happening inside to look that you feel👍🏻
@HavanaMossLab
@HavanaMossLab 3 жыл бұрын
This one was amazing! Your locking mechanism explanation blew my mind💥 You are doing great! 💪🏼
@QuantumMindfuck
@QuantumMindfuck 2 жыл бұрын
I misprogrammed my smartkey lock while I was changing the keys, this video helped me take it apart and fix it so I didn't need to get a whole new lock when I couldn't fix my mess up. Thank you, LockPickingLawyer!
@mysonstegman
@mysonstegman 5 жыл бұрын
Okay I really appreciate this video I love how you explained in detail the tools and objectives
@whiskeybentiron-works4648
@whiskeybentiron-works4648 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing not just the inside but also how it works! Other channels just pull one apart and say, there it is folks. Great demo, I always watch yours, when I can, in downtime.
@brandonvalenzuela1552
@brandonvalenzuela1552 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tear down. Had an issue where i re keyed it but it would work afterwards With this video I was able to take the dead bolt apart and manually re key it and brought it back to life.
@danielroglich3309
@danielroglich3309 4 жыл бұрын
Crazy. Pretty cool design for a lock. Thanks for sharing this little gem brother. Keep em coming!
@lockpickwithnick6256
@lockpickwithnick6256 8 жыл бұрын
Really interesting lock with good explanation. Great picking too. Thanks.
@lockpickinglawyer
@lockpickinglawyer 8 жыл бұрын
+LockpickwithNick Thanks
@JamesAutoDude
@JamesAutoDude 4 жыл бұрын
Darn, I've really loved these locks :( and the technology is freaking cool!
@dennisd.4726
@dennisd.4726 5 жыл бұрын
If it takes the LockPickingLawyer longer than 30 seconds to pick it, I may aswell not even try. :(
@alliesmomsvagina
@alliesmomsvagina 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's hard af to pick.
@teancoffee208
@teancoffee208 3 жыл бұрын
@@alliesmomsvagina Im using him as a guage for what locks to buy rn since im being forced to live with my abusive sister
@tristanwelch424
@tristanwelch424 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, with anything this complicated it’s easier to just kick the door in or blow the lock off with a shotgun
@aurelienyonrac
@aurelienyonrac Жыл бұрын
Na man. Just have fun and try.
@LordofAoD
@LordofAoD Жыл бұрын
If you're not worried about doing damage, you can get through one of these with a drill in less than a minute.
@safeshowroom
@safeshowroom 5 жыл бұрын
I was told when these first came out that they couldn't be picked so I never even tried... not anymore. Thanks!
@renegade637
@renegade637 Жыл бұрын
I found one of these by the side of the road. I know locks can be anywhere from $20-$60. So, I thought I could try messing with it to see if I could re-key it. I couldn't immediately find a piece of metal small enough to fit in the re-key hole. So, I just took it apart to see if I could re-key it with a spare key we had. It wasn't until I found this video of how the re-keying slider works that I was able to put it back together and make it work with a key I already had.
@Art3mis-Cane
@Art3mis-Cane 2 жыл бұрын
I love how little your videos have changed. Very satisfying for my brain lol
@ahungryzygote2917
@ahungryzygote2917 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this I took one apart just to see how it worked and had trouble putting it back together, this video made it possible for me to reassemble one and to have a better understanding of how it works
@convertathletics4564
@convertathletics4564 2 жыл бұрын
Lock talk.this makes me feel better. Ive tried numerous times, on bench as well as in the field and i have NEVER picked one
@greatestunknown
@greatestunknown 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice video. I was hoping to find a description of how these work. Didn't expect to find one quite so good. Thanks.
@richardwales5561
@richardwales5561 8 жыл бұрын
been unsuccessful so far with the one you sent Harry, this explains why! great pick n gutt.
@lockpickinglawyer
@lockpickinglawyer 8 жыл бұрын
+richardwales Thanks, and good luck with it!
@DonzLockz
@DonzLockz 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting design for a kwikset, thanks for the gutting 👍🙃
@tonyholt90
@tonyholt90 8 жыл бұрын
nice piece of engineering and well explained. fast pick as usual...
@lockpickinglawyer
@lockpickinglawyer 8 жыл бұрын
+tonyholt90 Thanks.
@PickME1977
@PickME1977 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome picking!! and great info on the lock!
@lockpickinglawyer
@lockpickinglawyer 8 жыл бұрын
+PickME 1977 Thanks.
@AlbertLebel
@AlbertLebel 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I just got one of these and I could not believe how tough it was to pick. Now I know why. I will try again tonight. Good stuff LPL...
@dbillionaer
@dbillionaer 7 жыл бұрын
if you want the new ones get the uptown or downtown style deadbolt they are brand new styles so they will have the new core. it will say ”new advanced smart key technology” on the back of the package also if it's the new core
@krissisk4163
@krissisk4163 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome. I have the cylinder from one of these things and had no idea what it was till I saw this video. I just thought it was an oddball wafer lock. Now that I know what I'm dealing with maybe I'll have better luck picking it.
@lockpickinglawyer
@lockpickinglawyer 8 жыл бұрын
THanks, and good luck. Once you get a feel for them, they are not too bad. Tricky, but pickable.
@seanedging6543
@seanedging6543 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent breakdown! I had been wondering if the rekeying can only happen once or multiple times (it's not really specified anywhere), and this both answers my question and gives me some insight to the lock. Now, if only there was a way to make it not key-retaining...
@craigcrissman4651
@craigcrissman4651 3 жыл бұрын
As many times as you want
@pickbeard2690
@pickbeard2690 8 жыл бұрын
Nice,very nice😘😘👍🍻 Thanks as always for sharing your knowledge👍👍👍👍
@lockpickinglawyer
@lockpickinglawyer 8 жыл бұрын
+Pick Beard Thanks.
@HerbFields
@HerbFields 8 жыл бұрын
Interesting and very informative. Thanks
@lockpickinglawyer
@lockpickinglawyer 8 жыл бұрын
+Herb Fields Thank you.
@blazer6248
@blazer6248 5 жыл бұрын
I've seen that tray before! 😄 Lock Noob has one exactly like it! 👍
@lockpickinglawyer
@lockpickinglawyer 5 жыл бұрын
Yup, someone copied my design and sells them. 🤷🏻‍♂️
@Potti314
@Potti314 8 жыл бұрын
Very interesting - thanks for the detailed explanation.
@lockpickinglawyer
@lockpickinglawyer 8 жыл бұрын
+Potti314 Thanks.
@TexasJim
@TexasJim 8 жыл бұрын
That was some great picking. Great video.
@lockpickinglawyer
@lockpickinglawyer 8 жыл бұрын
+Texas Jim Thanks Jim. I was surprised how these locks opened once I got a hang of them... not nearly as bad as I thought going in.
@TexasJim
@TexasJim 8 жыл бұрын
I have not really tried to open one yet but I think I will work on that. Thanks for showing this.
@Baldiloks
@Baldiloks 8 жыл бұрын
I check out your vids when I need decent advice and descriptions. Thank you.
@lockpickinglawyer
@lockpickinglawyer 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I hope it helps.
@gregfun9045
@gregfun9045 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Lockpicking Lawyer: You might want to let Bosian Bill know that the the padlock can be spp'd. His video shows raking with a worm style pick is the best way in... Thanks for you video's as always.
@jeffmoss26
@jeffmoss26 8 жыл бұрын
great job!
@lockpickinglawyer
@lockpickinglawyer 8 жыл бұрын
+Jeff Moss Thanks.
@brianhignett8954
@brianhignett8954 8 жыл бұрын
Hi Harry, Great picking again of course, you must have "the touch"! Interesting to see the actual mechanism - well explained as well. I know the locksmiths don't like these self change locks, and generally advise customers to change them. Apparently Kwikset have strengthened them to better resist the crushing technique, I wonder where the "improvements" have been made? Regards, Brian.
@lockpickinglawyer
@lockpickinglawyer 8 жыл бұрын
+Brian Hignett Thanks. I know that they redesigned the sidebar such that it goes deeper into the housing and changed the material of the sliders. But I've never seen one of the early ones, except in pictures.
@MrSinister0201
@MrSinister0201 3 жыл бұрын
Just locked myself out today. Have this on the front door. Guy came said he was gonna have to drill it out. Tried that didn't work. Tried my back door was ruff with it, but got in pretty easy there. Now I'm out a deadbolt an $240. Wont be able to sit down for about a day.
@razorgen4
@razorgen4 4 жыл бұрын
Hey @Lockpickinglawyer, love your content. One request though - can you make a video on this lock in layman's terms? Itd be very helpful for people suggesting locks to a loved one
@mattdude
@mattdude 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a lock that has better security than a standard kwikset, it also allows you to rekey it to a different kwikset key if you choose to do so. That’s what you asked for right?
@mrkultra1655
@mrkultra1655 6 ай бұрын
Thanks
@AgentOffice
@AgentOffice 5 жыл бұрын
Incredible technology
@RecklessTheory
@RecklessTheory 4 жыл бұрын
The second time I was tasked to rekey a lock at work at a hardware store I accidentally took apart one of these thinking it was standard lock but the casing was made out of plastic not metal and didn't seem to have a side bar like shown. So from that point I kind of steered people away from them unless they wanted the rekey feature. But seeing this one in all metal I wonder if it's because it's a deadbolt keyway...
@michaelmueller8976
@michaelmueller8976 4 жыл бұрын
You lucked out! I am a master locksmith.
@sonnynguyen135
@sonnynguyen135 5 жыл бұрын
Good video
@teambillco
@teambillco Жыл бұрын
you are good
@MikkoRantalainen
@MikkoRantalainen 2 жыл бұрын
The design looks pretty good. I have to wonder, though, shouldn't the false gate spacing match the comb-like feature in size? It seems like the false gates are double the size of the actual mechanism.
@joshyaash
@joshyaash 5 жыл бұрын
We use these at the apartment complex that I work at. The core is basically impossible to drill through.. Best way we've found is to aim for the 2 bolts on either side. But brute force always prevails if all else fails.
@buggsy5
@buggsy5 5 жыл бұрын
At the relatively low cost of the lock, it is probably more cost effective to just force the lock and replace it.
@P_RO_
@P_RO_ 2 жыл бұрын
Pushing the mounting screws out with a 1/8" drill through the face is SOP with all the apartment maintenance guys I know. Good cylinders will have a hardened plate in the face to prevent this attack as well as preventing the core from being pulled, and those usually come with hardened screws and a thick mounting plate too. I've seen some pissed-off ex-tenants install one of those as a 'going-away' present to get even with leasing agents who wouldn't refund their deposits. Maintenance always destroys the door trying to open it...
@RainAngel111
@RainAngel111 4 жыл бұрын
The scary thing about picking a kwikset is that once you've successfully picked it you can reset the pins to a different key. Crazy!
@benisted1614
@benisted1614 3 жыл бұрын
Would be quite easy to prevent, or at least make much harder, by making it so the cassette can only move whilst the lock is in the locked position (just have a notch in the barrel that blocks the gap as it's turned) as the act of tensioning the sidebar to set the sliders will rotate it to unlocked when they're in the correct positions, that way you'd pretty much have to have the real key (although due to the fixed positions of the keypins when set you could decode the lock once it was unlocked and cut a copy of the key, but at least that's difficult to do)
@MikkoRantalainen
@MikkoRantalainen 3 жыл бұрын
@@benisted1614 Considering that this lock can be decoded without moving the pins, there's no reason so try to fix other issues before fixing that vulnerability: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eq2UpqyjptDUY58.html
@benisted1614
@benisted1614 3 жыл бұрын
@@MikkoRantalainen Definitely a serious vulnerability but the tool costs $300+ and works on one lock, it's not going to see ridiculously widespread use yet, particularly by criminals. At this point most likely users are covert-entry teams (who would likely object to carrying such a bulky tool when a boroscope would likely do the same thing) and locksmiths, who will generally be working in a law-abiding fashion. As a vulnerability it's one that has been fixed by other slider-based locks and I expect it to be fixed in the next generation of this lock.
@MikkoRantalainen
@MikkoRantalainen 3 жыл бұрын
@@benisted1614 I agree that once you know what to look for, a boroscope and may a small prism is all you need. We full pre-made tool just makes it easier. Hopefully the lock design is fixed before many people get this lock core because otherwise thiefs WILL get the tool to decode the lock. I'd also guess somebody can create a key that can be adjusted to any cuts you need.
@liamworthington5863
@liamworthington5863 2 жыл бұрын
Dude really! I have so much trouble with this lock! ...this video makes me just fucked up and upset...Love your content.
@johnd5398
@johnd5398 Жыл бұрын
Check video 904 for the updated version of the lock.
@dirksecrets
@dirksecrets 8 жыл бұрын
Great picking and gutting. Excellent work as usual. I've got an WEISER SmartKey Rim Cylinder here. It is a Kwikset but from Canada. It is a Challenge lock from "Locks of Anarchy", and I am struggle with it for a while now.
@lockpickinglawyer
@lockpickinglawyer 8 жыл бұрын
+dirk Thanks, and good luck with yours. Just look for the tightly bound slider and move it one gate... Rinse, repeat until open.
@dirksecrets
@dirksecrets 8 жыл бұрын
+LockPickingLawyer Cheers my friend. I will keep that in mind, and try.
@gibbiemonster
@gibbiemonster 4 жыл бұрын
You picked it in 45 seconds and that's on my front door.
@DT_Liox
@DT_Liox 3 жыл бұрын
Important thing to remember in life. Locks only stop honest people.
@smasher.338
@smasher.338 3 жыл бұрын
@@DT_Liox he is also a beast a picking locks. Its going to take an average person a while, if tbey can get it at all.
@craigcrissman4651
@craigcrissman4651 3 жыл бұрын
Better than a regular kwikset that a novice picker like me can rake in 3 seconds or spp in 20. LPP is a very very experienced picker.
@johnd5398
@johnd5398 Жыл бұрын
I can drill it in 30 seconds and I've never picked a lock.
@gkeyman565
@gkeyman565 6 жыл бұрын
this version has been upgraded, and is unpickable due to the fact that no tension on the lock gets transfered to the sliders or the pins, " no feed back", and any tension just binds the sidebar from being depressed due to it being square on top and not angled, and that the only thing that can depress the side bar are its tiny springs, way weaker than the pin springs. I have both versions.
@Derfboy
@Derfboy 5 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say it's unpickable. I can apply tension as if trying to lock it, insert the key, and it turns. I can't do that when I apply tension the other way. The key will not turn until I let up the tension. Point is, it could be picked to the locking side and the a spinner could be used to get it to the unlocked position, I believe. But.....I could be wrong. :)
@55ATA3
@55ATA3 5 жыл бұрын
@Matt Williams "GKeyman565" said that the lock that "LockPickingLawyer" picked was the old version and it has been updated. So yes it was picked but they have changed the lock and how it works. But like "Derek Traywick" said he thinks it could still be picked.
@RealWorldPolice
@RealWorldPolice 5 жыл бұрын
55ATA3 It has been picked. When will people learn to stop saying ‘unpickable’? (I mean, the Protec 2 went down on video last week.)
@55ATA3
@55ATA3 5 жыл бұрын
@@RealWorldPolice If you look at what I said. I said ""GKeyman565" said that the lock that "LockPickingLawyer" picked was the old version and it has been updated. So yes it was picked but they have changed the lock and how it works. But like "Derek Traywick" said he thinks it could still be picked." I never said it was ‘unpickable’. Also my comment was 30 days ago and it had not been pick at that time. But thank you for letting me know that it has been picked. If you have a link to the video I would like to see it.
@RealWorldPolice
@RealWorldPolice 5 жыл бұрын
55ATA3 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bLuKadeU283IaYk.html
@philswift2703
@philswift2703 4 жыл бұрын
May or may not of lost my keys to a room in my house that’s why I’m here xD
@DavidPatMathis81
@DavidPatMathis81 3 жыл бұрын
LOL! Yeah, it takes us smiths THOUSANDS of hours to get good at picking, but I'm sure you can defeat a smartlock on your first try.
@koolkille3
@koolkille3 3 жыл бұрын
@@DavidPatMathis81 I’m with you there those smartlocks are no joke
@craigcrissman4651
@craigcrissman4651 3 жыл бұрын
@@DavidPatMathis81 yeah a smartkey is no joke but how is this dude supposed to know that without experience in the field? I got my start in picking because i lost the key to a master 575 padlock I owned and wanted to see if I could get it off the fun way rather than bolt cutters. So Id refrain from ridiculing people for having an interest in trying to pick things they lost the key too. Its how a lot of people get into the sport and even some continue that into the profession.
@randyaivaz3356
@randyaivaz3356 6 ай бұрын
Was hoping you would show aligning the True Gates with Channel, Reassemble, being Sure it Slides back for Rekeying. With same or other Key. I go to a Local Door/Window shop, remove old locks from their Discard Pile, Then Rekey to a Key I have. Wanted to Show Brother In Law aligning the Grooves, Great Video, looking for one with the groove aligning. Thanks
@domm5715
@domm5715 2 ай бұрын
to get the casset to go back, the sliders need to be up about half way, youll see the big cut out that matches with the half circles right underneath of the key pins . so the sliders just need to match with the halfcircles and it will alow the casset to be pushed back... insert a new key and turn the rest of the way and bam, re-set, hope this helps
@freakygardener8033
@freakygardener8033 Жыл бұрын
You first mentioned about a padlock, but quickly moved on to the door lock. Did it also have the changeable keying?
@jaketheintern
@jaketheintern 8 жыл бұрын
I've had one of the for a while, but I haven't been able to pick it. Do you have any tips for picking this one? What kind of tension did you use?
@lockpickinglawyer
@lockpickinglawyer 8 жыл бұрын
+Jake Neumann Thanks. Tension depends on the lock. I have three, and they all like different amounts of tension. Just give it enough to bind the sliders, but no more. Release a little tension to move the sliders. Good luck.
@bradleybunner3515
@bradleybunner3515 6 жыл бұрын
Can you show me how to get the sliders in the right spot for a new key? How do you get the notches correct?
@nikivan
@nikivan 5 жыл бұрын
When can we see a video about the new version that can't be tensioned this way? I can send you a brand new lock if you wish. Gen 3 is what I believe they call it. Someone claimed it can be tensioned by pressing down on the sidebar, but I don't think it is possible due to the very small gap between the core and the lock housing. Anyway, it would be interested to see if you could attack it.
@fabiandaroca
@fabiandaroca 4 жыл бұрын
Where did you get that clip removal tool is you don't mind me asking????
@jacksobe
@jacksobe 4 жыл бұрын
I was Like #500! Great videos! I'd like to see some recommendations.
@annonymousfox7515
@annonymousfox7515 5 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad people are taking this lock seriously. A few years ago people would hate on this lock for being easy to open by force. It's still a beautiful lock design and a hard pick! Great job btw!
@notaname59
@notaname59 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not clear if this was previously asked, but does this lock prevent bumping? Context - looking at a lot of LPL videos, all locks are pickable. Bumping is a ridiculously easy way to get into a house (i.e. small barrier for someone who wants to do this). There are likely less people who can pick a lock, so if it can stop bumping, the lock is a step up from all the other locks. Thoughts?
@scottc.6409
@scottc.6409 7 жыл бұрын
This is the lock that's driving me nuts. Your videos have help me a lot. I have watched your other smart key video as well. Also your video on tension, which has me sold on getting a heaver top tension bar. Now my questions are. Can you go through this type of lock again and address the tension question? Heavy tension does not work with this lock. 2nd in this video you keep mentioning springy at different points. Could you go into more detail on what you mean by this in relation to the pins binding? Thanks again for the great info!
@lockpickinglawyer
@lockpickinglawyer 7 жыл бұрын
Honestly, it's been so long since I picked one of these that I barely remember. I'll have to revisit the SK.
@scottc.6409
@scottc.6409 7 жыл бұрын
This is Generation 1 with the side bar in a V side slot. When tension is applied it binds the sliders/ wafers. I haven"t heard of anyone spp generation 2 with the square sidebar and slot. The new square slot prevents pins from binding. Interesting lock to say the least.
@kontronman
@kontronman 3 жыл бұрын
I tried picking one of these. I kept trying the pins, increasing tension, repeating, regardless I couldn't get any to bind!
@johnd5398
@johnd5398 Жыл бұрын
Check video 904. You probably have a newer version of the lock.
@AlbertLebel
@AlbertLebel 6 жыл бұрын
Im not sure what I am doing wrong but I cant even get the pins to lift without being very rough. They seem to get stuck on the false gates or something. Its driving me nuts!!!
@lyynhrt
@lyynhrt 8 жыл бұрын
I still dont get it :( Its nice having a visual of the interior, which lets me recalculate my thinking when i pick the lock, but i still have no idea how it really works lol Great video though, I appreciate you taking the time to take it apart :)
@lockpickinglawyer
@lockpickinglawyer 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Sorry I didn't do a better job of explaining. :-( If there's a particular part that did or didn't makes sense, I can try to fill the gaps.
@lyynhrt
@lyynhrt 8 жыл бұрын
Its not your fault at all, its my comprehending ability lol. Im just trying to grasp how the sidebar, the "pins" and the core all work together to make it rotate or not rotate when you put the key in
@kylecorey88
@kylecorey88 7 жыл бұрын
iknow it is tough to comprehend how they figured that out to make it work.
@pkonneker
@pkonneker 2 жыл бұрын
I got one if these cores for like 50 cents at the local habitat store. It's a lot easier to grok with it in your hand
@gl_tonight
@gl_tonight 8 жыл бұрын
im curious what the bb does for drill protection, couldnt one just use a larger drill bit, pop the ball out, and continue? or just drill above and below to pop it?
@lockpickinglawyer
@lockpickinglawyer 8 жыл бұрын
+LOLWHUTMAIFRIEN Its pretty good drill protection. The ball bearing is hardened. When you hit it with a drill bit, one of three things will happen. (I) the ball bearing will stop forward progress and spin, (ii) the bit will catch the ball bearing a break, or (iii) the drill bit will be deflected by the angled ball bearing. And it would be very difficult to drill the sidebar without going through the bearing. Of course, there are ways around. If I was drilling this lock, I would probably start with a 1/4" end mill and drill until I hit the bearing... then remove it with a magnet and keep drilling.
@gl_tonight
@gl_tonight 8 жыл бұрын
+LockPickingLawyer thank you kindly, really appreciate all the vids and the variety. lots to learn
@johnd5398
@johnd5398 Жыл бұрын
@@lockpickinglawyer Remove the face of this deadbolt and you will find 2 open holes where the mounting screws thread in. Hitting these with the tip of an 1/8th" drill will grab the screw and actually unscrew it from the lock. If you're careful and can remove the face plate for reuse, you can drill these locks and reuse them! At the worst, you ruin the faceplate but the lock is drilled in less than 30 seconds.
@makahaj341
@makahaj341 7 жыл бұрын
I understand Kwikset has redesigned this lock, with a different sidebar mechanism that prevents the plug from rotating unless the sidebar is physically depressed. If I'm understanding it correctly. Are you familiar with that change, or had any luck picking the new design? Thanks very much for all your videos - they're very well explained and have been a great help to me.
@lockpickinglawyer
@lockpickinglawyer 7 жыл бұрын
I'm familiar with the change, but have not been able to find one yet. If the change is what I've been told, it will make picking and forcing far more difficult.
@davidburlingame2421
@davidburlingame2421 6 жыл бұрын
This looks like the latest generation of Kwikset-smart key locks. I haven't been successful against this lock yet.
@Derfboy
@Derfboy 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry to bring up an old topic but did you ever find this? I took the lock on my door apart and found the exact setup you show here except when I applied tension to it the lock would freeze. Even when I picked to the correct position it wouldn't turn. I tried applying light tension and inserting the key and it also wouldn't turn.
@spivey618
@spivey618 5 жыл бұрын
Had same issue actually Derek, was messing with mine today. I run thru a few times and all pins are up and set, no turn. If I just pull tools the lock will freeze until released from inside. @LockPickingLawyer curious if you can share some knowledge, thanks!
@44andFit
@44andFit 5 жыл бұрын
Have you ever been able to rake a smart key deadbolt?
@BillysRC
@BillysRC 7 ай бұрын
Who else has been just trying to open this for hours on end
@crowdruid6488
@crowdruid6488 2 жыл бұрын
4:51 'meow'
@ChrisAhrensLHG
@ChrisAhrensLHG 8 жыл бұрын
very interesting id be scared to take it apart. could it be master keyed. great job picking it gonna have to try one
@lockpickinglawyer
@lockpickinglawyer 8 жыл бұрын
+Chris Ahrens Thanks. It could only be master keyed with multiple true gates, but they could not be reprogrammed.
@kylecorey88
@kylecorey88 7 жыл бұрын
yea i dont think they make these master keyable or do they?
@lockpickinglawyer
@lockpickinglawyer 7 жыл бұрын
Kyle Corey No... it would have to be a custom job.
@ChrisAhrensLHG
@ChrisAhrensLHG 7 жыл бұрын
Hey LPL I just recently picked the new improvements kwikset the uptown in my video number 68 if you are interested in seeing it
@millanferende6723
@millanferende6723 3 жыл бұрын
Is this also break resistant? Are they made of steel? Like when a thief is using screwdriver and a wrench.
@PhysicalCoppercollector
@PhysicalCoppercollector 6 ай бұрын
Do you have an album of the best locks in the world?
@DavidPatMathis81
@DavidPatMathis81 2 жыл бұрын
Now do it on the newer model with a square sidebar.
@roysnider3456
@roysnider3456 Жыл бұрын
Hey LPL I just bought this cylinder to play with and noticed on the key a very small peak? unben? Small rise, right at the back of position 3. I know it’s a manufacturing flaw I’m just wondering if you’ve seen this on a new key.
@SN-bm3xj
@SN-bm3xj Жыл бұрын
Is there a top of key way or bottom of key way difference for tension? Or is that just a preference?
@camillakumpel7452
@camillakumpel7452 6 жыл бұрын
Cane to see the clip removed, was opted out RIP
@bubbaflavel
@bubbaflavel 4 жыл бұрын
Is there a way to disable the key retaining feature of the Kwikset Smartkey padlock?
@PMCJohn
@PMCJohn 4 жыл бұрын
Any tips for if we have one on our house to make it more secure? I just got one like 3 weeks ago from Lowe’s and I’m just not sure if I should or shouldn’t trust it. I know that single pin binding is damn near impossible with the newer model but there is still bumping and whatnot on the table in my head.
@johnd5398
@johnd5398 Жыл бұрын
No residential burglar is going to pick a door lock. They will just kick the door or take out a window. These Kwiksets can be drilled and removed in less than 30 seconds, anyway.
@sapperdaddy101a
@sapperdaddy101a 3 жыл бұрын
Any tips on how to pick this lock..I can't seem to get any feedback from the lock
@asperbergers7136
@asperbergers7136 3 жыл бұрын
My only question is... If I pick the lock using your method, can I rekey it to a new key. This would be handy to know as a maintenance supervisor at apartment complexes using these locks.
@JAB0ND
@JAB0ND 3 жыл бұрын
It can be rekeyed without the original key if you take it apart.
@johnd5398
@johnd5398 Жыл бұрын
As long as you can get it turned 90 degrees and insert something into the slot in the front to move the slider cartridge, it can be rekeyed. So, yes.
@melody3741
@melody3741 2 жыл бұрын
Whats preventing me from changing bitting on any lock??
@briansouth9325
@briansouth9325 5 жыл бұрын
5:30 for fingerprints lol
@jamesnobles7426
@jamesnobles7426 3 жыл бұрын
Can you use any kwik set cut key to redo the lock. I tried to use a key with deep cuts and it didn't seem to want to go all the way into the lock
@jangtheconqueror
@jangtheconqueror 5 жыл бұрын
Do you have a video explaining your terminology?
@eddiekilby
@eddiekilby 4 жыл бұрын
Can it be picked by tensioning the slider?
@timfields1899
@timfields1899 2 жыл бұрын
So what is you opinion about this type of lock on your home? 1 to 5
@dannyloo9688
@dannyloo9688 4 жыл бұрын
Is this identical to the Weiser Smartkey?
@miguel62614
@miguel62614 4 жыл бұрын
hello friend, I was wondering were you got your tools from? thanks
@jerrydoyle5622
@jerrydoyle5622 4 жыл бұрын
he has differant manufactures picks. Multipick,or Peterson. I think Multipick.
@Johnyrocket70
@Johnyrocket70 8 жыл бұрын
lol you said "nubs" jk nice job
@lockpickinglawyer
@lockpickinglawyer 8 жыл бұрын
Damn it, keep your mind out of the gutter! :-P
@Johnyrocket70
@Johnyrocket70 8 жыл бұрын
+LockPickingLawyer nice nubs brown. have you picked a mulT lock interactive plus sidebar?
@EricBishard
@EricBishard 5 жыл бұрын
What he is able to do by unsetting a pin, barely letting off the tension, I have found is a hard skill to master. Correct me if I'm wrong but this is like an undo button if he accidentally sets a pin too high?
@buggsy5
@buggsy5 5 жыл бұрын
Kind of. But there is no guarantee that the over lifted wafer will be the first (or only) one to drop back.
@jayc4283
@jayc4283 3 жыл бұрын
Now that I have your fingerprint,.....I'm wondering what I can open with it?
@mattyh5028
@mattyh5028 3 жыл бұрын
So the one thing I (Im a Locksmith) am confused or perplexed by is how you were able to put pressure on the side by at all. Because you can pick at these cylinders all day long, but if you don’t put pressure on the side bar, you can line the key pins up to the sheer line, but the cylinder still will not turn. Any answers on that? Does it have something to do with you inserting the tension wrench at the top of the key way?
@craigcrissman4651
@craigcrissman4651 3 жыл бұрын
Its cause this is an older generation that isnt a reverse side bar. The new Gen3s are the ones with the reverse sidebar that needs to be individually tensioned.
@TheReal_BallzBDragon
@TheReal_BallzBDragon Жыл бұрын
Whats the difference between this kwikset cylinder and the one from your other video where you had to slide the stock shim into the outer edge of the cylinder?
@johnd5398
@johnd5398 Жыл бұрын
This is an early version of the SmartKey. Video 904 was a Gen3 version with a reverse sidebar.
@Vanguardcredit
@Vanguardcredit 6 жыл бұрын
Can you open these with an electric pick? I have not been able too!
@ToastyMozart
@ToastyMozart 5 жыл бұрын
Electric picks have an operating principle that's very similar to bump keys, which don't work with wafer locks.
@chadhayag9171
@chadhayag9171 3 жыл бұрын
Can this lock be rekeyed with the smart key without its current key? Or do you need both current key and smartkey to rekey?
@JAB0ND
@JAB0ND 3 жыл бұрын
It can be rekeyed without the original key.
@matthewbui2407
@matthewbui2407 2 жыл бұрын
What do you mean by binding do you think that the people that are new at bypassing smart locks know what binding means on a lock
@datafreak911
@datafreak911 5 ай бұрын
could you make a video about rekeying it
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