16 Stocks: Melee's Greatest Crew Battle Performance

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More often than not, taking 5 stocks is considered an above average performance for Crews. Now forget everything I just said, and imagine taking 16...against some of the best players in the world.
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CHAPTERS:
00:00 - Intro
01:27 - Chapter 1: A Ship of Fools
04:54 - Chapter 2: Passing the Torch
09:39 - Chapter 3: To Become a King
14:34 - Epilogue: One Throne, Zero Challenge
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David A. Molina - Encounter
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Пікірлер: 301
@KishSquared
@KishSquared 2 жыл бұрын
This video nails the early history of the crew battles, and I can't tell you how much it means to see the video dedicated to KishCubed. Great watch with amazing attention to detail. Thank you!
@turndownforwalt
@turndownforwalt 2 жыл бұрын
So happy to see this from you. I’m very glad you enjoyed!
@KishSquared
@KishSquared 2 жыл бұрын
@@luke5896 To think I could have been a Smash Pro! But I guess networking is pretty fun too 😉 Thanks for this comment, it made my day 😂 All the best on your ENCOR!
@TheRealMew2king
@TheRealMew2king 2 жыл бұрын
To give more context about this time period: This is actually similar gameplay to how I played a lot of that year, the only difference being which matches were and weren't recorded, and/or which were uploaded to the internet or not, so I have less credibility than I should have had for that year due to pure bad luck in that aspect (I've said this many times, but it gets memed on because I can't prove it, or have less data to prove it than I should have had). IMO my best performance this year was the 9-0 vs ChuDat/PC Chris in LF/GFs of FC:Diamond the week before this, where I had crowd cheering and strong mental state, and managed to get multiple 2 and 3 stocks on them (low % with both of the 3 stocks on each player actually), making that tournament my best lifetime performance against both Chu Dat and PC Chris. I was really excited at how I played during that tournament, and couldn't wait for the matches to be uploaded online so I could show the world how great I can be at my best, only to find out that the videos were not properly saved, and would never be uploaded. I became extremely devastated and depressed after learning about that (but I didn't learn about it until a few weeks or months after it happened), since 90% of the reason I played was to show the world how great I was or could be. I'm not lying when I say that I played better at the end of that tournament than half the sets I played a decade later, and I'm not speaking only relatively either. I believe it's because I was solely focused on Melee then, without Brawl (which game out 7 months later) or other games (or life goals like college or anything else etc) to distract me from my goal of being as good as I could be at Melee at that time. Will elaborate more when my book comes out (yes it is still happening eventually 100%, I've just been focused on so many other things lately, so it's significantly more delayed than expected).
@noirlavender6409
@noirlavender6409 2 жыл бұрын
LoL m2k. I love you man, bless you
@tobiasmoodias4855
@tobiasmoodias4855 2 жыл бұрын
THATS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT THATS WHY HE'S THE MVP THATS WHY HE'S THE GOAT THE GOAAAAAAT
@kingarthur3236
@kingarthur3236 2 жыл бұрын
Don't let this big comment distract you from the fact that m2k didnt even win this tournament where the crew battle took place, losing to PC Chris in grands.
@wholelottawhale4103
@wholelottawhale4103 2 жыл бұрын
@@kingarthur3236 okay and? That doesn’t take away from how good he was back then, even the best of the best don’t win every single tournament. You don’t see MkLeo three stocking all of his opponents and winning every super major tourney
@TheRealMew2king
@TheRealMew2king 2 жыл бұрын
Another thing to note is that oldschool Melee was on "vanilla" Melee, so things like consistent dash back, pivots, shield drops etc were all not possible (this is why things like spotdodge were a bigger part of the game because you could risk missing dashback randomly and get shield grabbed just from bad luck. Doing what Zain does for example (the best of both worlds with dashback and pivots) is 100% not possible in most of Melee's lifespan[2002-2016/18] basically because of vanilla Melee restrictions (UCF/Slippi recodes the game to make dashback work on any controller with no luck involved). Since we're all spoiled nowadays by things such as UCF, Slippi, controller modders, and free access to information and various resources (can simply look up the "correct answer" by watching another pro do something), it's likely hard for most to imagine the limitations/restrictions of the past, in both what can be done consistently and free access to information.
@shorterthanaverage5183
@shorterthanaverage5183 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine if they all heard this voiceover mid match. “And this would be the last stock he would take in this crew battle.” “I’m sorry what?” *M2K noises*
@SSB_Seal
@SSB_Seal 2 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, a Melee mini-doc focusing on crew battles? This format has a TON of interesting history that a lot of people nowadays just don't know about, so it's super cool to see you giving it some spotlight!
@Matthew.Morcos
@Matthew.Morcos 2 жыл бұрын
What are some must watch crew battles I should watch as a pretty new melee fan
@Matthew.Morcos
@Matthew.Morcos 2 жыл бұрын
@@Michael-hc2hp Thanks man
@Michael-hc2hp
@Michael-hc2hp 2 жыл бұрын
@@Matthew.Morcos No problem! Always happy to help someone get more invested into Melee
@Pslamist
@Pslamist 2 жыл бұрын
Look up Allston Melee's to 10 videos. That have a bunch, and (at least) one of them is focused on crews and the players in them!
@Pslamist
@Pslamist 2 жыл бұрын
*top 10
@IGP
@IGP 2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, you're such a legendary creator man.
@unoptimalpunishrio9885
@unoptimalpunishrio9885 2 жыл бұрын
another reason to like igp hell yeah
@JayA-zm8dn
@JayA-zm8dn 2 жыл бұрын
The chad himself
@skewrin2837
@skewrin2837 Жыл бұрын
IGP watching (incredibly good and super interesting) melee content? Let's go
@cooolbigguy
@cooolbigguy 2 жыл бұрын
"The birth of modern melee" gave me goosebumps for some reason. Is M2K our Prometheus?
@linkluver_izn
@linkluver_izn 2 жыл бұрын
The real reason we all have arthritis now
@TocloseamI
@TocloseamI 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, he did steal grame data and character weight from the silent developers of the game
@develrandomdankmemes7586
@develrandomdankmemes7586 2 жыл бұрын
@@TocloseamI omg
@Flygoncave
@Flygoncave 2 жыл бұрын
When M2K sweeps one of the best crew is honestly the sickest and funniest thing in hyped up melee
@literallydeadpool
@literallydeadpool 2 жыл бұрын
Me when this would be the last stock I would take in this crew battle
@jamesbyrd7031
@jamesbyrd7031 2 жыл бұрын
Borp's run at the crew battle in fight pitt iv is a close second.
@SoLinkSmash
@SoLinkSmash 2 жыл бұрын
Borp Pog
@OhAijiOhSni
@OhAijiOhSni 2 жыл бұрын
Was gonna say
@i_hate_handles602
@i_hate_handles602 2 жыл бұрын
Actual facts
@CoolLegBoy
@CoolLegBoy 2 жыл бұрын
The hidden sixth god
@Zanthosus
@Zanthosus 2 жыл бұрын
I like the idea that Ken does this and then thinks, "I'mma go on Survivor".
@woobiehastelly
@woobiehastelly 2 жыл бұрын
LOL I know right?
@easyyen
@easyyen 2 жыл бұрын
Hugs86 had a pretty impressive showing at the Smash Summit 11 commentator crew battle
@Delightfully_Bitchy
@Delightfully_Bitchy 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, Hugs is a tourney player...
@icarlygod
@icarlygod 2 жыл бұрын
16:23 honestly, if the quality was higher and the names weren't displayed up top, I would've believed this interaction were from two noob marths on slippi unranked.
@ballertheking1038
@ballertheking1038 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao.
@okboss2213
@okboss2213 2 жыл бұрын
4:17 I like how everyone's serious then there's just hbox
@Abbaschand
@Abbaschand 2 жыл бұрын
You just got got.
@thekidsatno80
@thekidsatno80 2 жыл бұрын
Walt usually does like changing one or two things in the background of stuff he has showing while he does a voice over, I'm guessing it's just that since the cutout of hbox is done more poorly than in all the other people there. Would be funny if that's the case though lol
@MeesterTweester
@MeesterTweester 2 жыл бұрын
The big bob No, that was actually in the real event. At Smash Rivalries, Hungrybox wasn't available for photos in time so they had to Photoshop him in. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mtuRoK6QzarXm5c.html
@thekidsatno80
@thekidsatno80 2 жыл бұрын
@@MeesterTweester Oh okay! I didn't actually know that. I stand corrected, thanks for even giving a link too. (Shit now I gotta watch this video again to see where the funny addition Walt put in was)
@MeesterTweester
@MeesterTweester 2 жыл бұрын
The big bob You're welcome, I heard about it when it happened then
@mlalbaitero
@mlalbaitero 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like when m2k talks about 2007 m2k he's talking about his mentality and ambition. Probably not but if he is it would actually make sense
@colinmurphy2214
@colinmurphy2214 2 жыл бұрын
More so how at that point he was solely dedicated to being the best at melee and ever since 2007 he’s been having to juggle multiple games while his competitors in each respective game didn’t.
@mlalbaitero
@mlalbaitero 2 жыл бұрын
@@colinmurphy2214 I mean hbox and wizzy kinda do that now, and it's not like he has to focus melee and the newest one, it's a choice (same with hbox)
@sienrid
@sienrid 3 ай бұрын
Yeah mentality, ambition, but also execution. He mentions that what he means by 2007 m2k is that that was the peak of his techskill/execution - everything he wanted to do, he did correctly.
@Jazardly
@Jazardly 2 жыл бұрын
and here I thought the Summit 11 Crews was one sided
@ariesomega2487
@ariesomega2487 2 жыл бұрын
2007 m2ks marth just brang smart and in modern melee age "normal play" to the table. Standart situations like a optimized chaingrab on fd, a down throw gimp or good ledge options were all more or less invented by him
@shoyupacket5572
@shoyupacket5572 2 жыл бұрын
i will be an m2k fan forever. this man has so many highlights it's ridiculous.
@izzywooperstan
@izzywooperstan 2 жыл бұрын
Haven't watched it yet but I know it will be worth my time
@NZsaltz
@NZsaltz 2 жыл бұрын
"This would be the last stock _ would take in the crew battle" is SUCH a cool line
@evanpowers1537
@evanpowers1537 2 жыл бұрын
I thought it was pretty cringe. It's the only match with that opponent of the crew battle anyway
@NZsaltz
@NZsaltz 2 жыл бұрын
@@evanpowers1537Okay, I'm sorry you're too jaded to enjoy cool lines? That's literally the point
@evanpowers1537
@evanpowers1537 2 жыл бұрын
@@NZsaltz it's not a cool line. it sucked. you are easy 2 pleez hun
@NZsaltz
@NZsaltz 2 жыл бұрын
@@evanpowers1537 Well now you're just being rude.
@-snek.
@-snek. 2 жыл бұрын
@@evanpowers1537 You don't please anybody.
@Radarssbm
@Radarssbm 2 жыл бұрын
Hadn’t heard this story, great video dude!
@greenoftreeblackofblue6625
@greenoftreeblackofblue6625 2 жыл бұрын
Scar would love this he's a huge M2K fan especially for this time period.
@garglemonster4697
@garglemonster4697 2 жыл бұрын
My first time hearing of gahtzu was during the us vs the world crew battle that was one of the best crew performances i seen…
@Ignatius256
@Ignatius256 2 жыл бұрын
This is incredibly thorough and impressive, and you didn't even lump me in as a Kish. Great content.
@ElendilAndurilz
@ElendilAndurilz 2 жыл бұрын
Champion of the frozen wastes right here
@archivalstorage
@archivalstorage 2 жыл бұрын
Your growth as a creator over the past year or so has been really inspiring.
@ImmaGhostWarrior
@ImmaGhostWarrior 2 жыл бұрын
everyone gangsta till the camera zooms in and says "this will be the last stock they would take" 💀
@lousourboo9000
@lousourboo9000 2 жыл бұрын
yet another amazing video from one of my favorite creators. The content you make is constantly high quality and I love what you do.
@sunnyfalco3339
@sunnyfalco3339 2 жыл бұрын
15:00 walt: (In reference to the crew battle performance) “im at a complete loss for words” also walt: *curates a 20 minute documentary on said subject* 😭
@anthonymarken956
@anthonymarken956 2 жыл бұрын
Crews needs a lot more love these days. Such a fun and interesting format
@sonton2042
@sonton2042 2 жыл бұрын
This was amazing content! Learning about these great, yet, little talked about moments in the history of the game is so interesting, keep it up
@MaxJacks
@MaxJacks 2 жыл бұрын
Wooo another TDFW video!!! Thank you for making melee content for the whole scene to enjoy!
@brolo7234
@brolo7234 2 жыл бұрын
One of the first crew battles had a similar interesting occurrence with Isai becoming motivated and taking 15 stocks.
@zenyythultimate
@zenyythultimate 2 жыл бұрын
hit the hbox pop-off when i saw walt uploaded, sick as usual
@Carteen
@Carteen 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, M2K really said what is a king to a god
@eddiestilll
@eddiestilll 2 жыл бұрын
gosh as someone who has participated in melee crew battles before, i can say u feel so hype n connected to ur team :) luv to hear da awesome history of crew battles! turndownforwalt never disappoints :')
@BOTHaven
@BOTHaven 17 күн бұрын
Hell yeah
@shiina4861
@shiina4861 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing as usual, more crews content for sure!
@momo_11o9
@momo_11o9 2 жыл бұрын
god i love this channel. most polished melee content on youtube 1000%
@echo69286
@echo69286 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always
@Double-X2-Points
@Double-X2-Points 3 ай бұрын
How did i not know of this!? Great video, these are the legendary things in video game history we should remember and enjoy as gamers. Stuff never before seen and possibly never again to occur. Respect to everyone who participated in the event, as the skill of opponents is what sets the stage for an epic showdown in the first place.
@versutus2699
@versutus2699 2 жыл бұрын
High quality production and storytelling as always. Love seeing old melee relived for modern times For those who also want to see another amazing crew battle performance, watch mang0 at the west coast vs east coast mlg anaheim 2015 crew battle where he took 8 stocks off 3 gods
@ascent1on716
@ascent1on716 8 ай бұрын
i come back to this video every now and then and just admire the brilliance of the editing and also mew2kings pure skill
@Purey97
@Purey97 2 жыл бұрын
Wow I never heard of this incredible little tidbit of melee history. Great production value as always Walt!
@karlfairbanks1574
@karlfairbanks1574 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite crew battle win was a falcon player named Equal who literally won an entire crew battle solo I wish I could find the vod.
@oscarfrancisco6131
@oscarfrancisco6131 2 жыл бұрын
Lets goooo been looking forward to this video for a while
@CheeTheOG
@CheeTheOG 2 жыл бұрын
This doc is amazingg omfg the "This would be the last stock (player name) would take in this crew battle" gave chills lol. Good shit walt lol
@JackMac183
@JackMac183 2 жыл бұрын
I love you. Like really love you. Your voice makes me feel things I thought I never could.
@xZigeRx
@xZigeRx 2 жыл бұрын
intro gave me shivers gj, very well done
@bradleyoldford7754
@bradleyoldford7754 2 жыл бұрын
I love the way you edit these videos
@BossFFX1
@BossFFX1 2 жыл бұрын
it is actually insane how he manages to keep you interested throughout the whole vid, this man is what this community deserves!
@zeo_o6395
@zeo_o6395 2 жыл бұрын
I think this video is so Interesting and well made I love your vids so much.
@yahboyx
@yahboyx 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video !
@BromanderInChief
@BromanderInChief 2 жыл бұрын
The Kishes are legends here in the SB smash community. They’re awesome guys.
@zxdevoutxz
@zxdevoutxz 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent content
@mute_cebu_
@mute_cebu_ 2 жыл бұрын
I love your writing style. The "this is the last stock so and so took" pattern gave me chills and made me laugh.
@Zyx3ds18
@Zyx3ds18 2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, I knew M2K was good, but I didn’t know he was THIS good
@LordTerias
@LordTerias Жыл бұрын
He's the first of the Five Gods of Melee, after all
@TheSaucysteve
@TheSaucysteve 2 жыл бұрын
Why the fuck is this vid such high quality? Good shit man.
@xutfw
@xutfw 2 жыл бұрын
This feels like a Secret Base / Jon Bois video ;) Love it.
@milk4you1200
@milk4you1200 2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@WindlessZephyr
@WindlessZephyr 2 жыл бұрын
the scripts and voiceover in your videos is always amazing walt
@tba6
@tba6 2 жыл бұрын
15:14 you had 2 sneak that in🤣🤣🤣, love it
@LiquidStampede
@LiquidStampede 2 жыл бұрын
goddamn dude this is such a legendary documentary. can't believe i'd never heard about this before
@zorthonthedevistaorscott2481
@zorthonthedevistaorscott2481 10 ай бұрын
Wow! I just watched a master at his craft. I think I like crews infinitely more now, thanks TDFW.
@ln8496
@ln8496 2 жыл бұрын
14:04 Ancient bair side b regrab technology that stango brought back to practice a few years back
@Idle_Koala
@Idle_Koala 2 жыл бұрын
Wow this is amazing
@SquattingxBear
@SquattingxBear 2 жыл бұрын
Crews are hype! I wish more tournaments featured them.
@hossdelgato6098
@hossdelgato6098 2 жыл бұрын
The king
@DarwinDing
@DarwinDing 2 жыл бұрын
legendary video about legendary performance from legendary creator :B
@happens4656
@happens4656 2 жыл бұрын
Disappointed that it’s not Bloke Cinco’s comeback in the 2015 The Melee Games match between University of Houston and University of Texas at Austin
@MarkAngelbuer
@MarkAngelbuer 2 жыл бұрын
holy shit, what a great history lesson! FANTASIC VIDEO!!!!!!
@juicy_578
@juicy_578 2 жыл бұрын
DAMN WTH HOW HAVE I NEVER HEARD OF THIS BEFORE thanks for bringing attention to this MUCH DESERVED performance This is Insaneeee Pog M2K
@N1c2k3
@N1c2k3 2 жыл бұрын
Can confirm - this is the only part of the tourny people were talking about afterwards. It was most certainly a meta-changing moment and helped usher in the modern era of Melee.
@sunbreh9075
@sunbreh9075 2 жыл бұрын
Loving the content man! Also loving your commentary work you have done recently, keep it up mang, I can see a big eSports org picking you up for content creation, would be so dope if you could get sponsored
@turndownforwalt
@turndownforwalt 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@sunbreh9075
@sunbreh9075 2 жыл бұрын
@@turndownforwalt I knew it would happen, seeing PG picking you up is you hype! Congratulations my dude, so happy for you
@rishi280
@rishi280 2 жыл бұрын
crazy high video quality
@Colemanbearpig
@Colemanbearpig 5 ай бұрын
Ty ❤
@Ligatmarping
@Ligatmarping 2 жыл бұрын
what a beast!
@Aizaia5
@Aizaia5 2 жыл бұрын
Its crazy to think 3 out of the 5 gods are retired
@dreairhead8857
@dreairhead8857 2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, the motion graphic explaining how crew battles work was SO clean
@dodosilent
@dodosilent 2 жыл бұрын
Melee seems to have an infinite number of epic storylines
@turtlezpotatoz2247
@turtlezpotatoz2247 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats on 42000 subs
@SoppyBiscuit
@SoppyBiscuit 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent now I can finally feed myself
@TheZogeking
@TheZogeking 2 жыл бұрын
Good shit, Walt
@serguardian17
@serguardian17 2 жыл бұрын
"The birth of modern Melee" Thats just perfect.
@S3rg1o100
@S3rg1o100 Жыл бұрын
This also kind of reminds me at thevstart of crew battles when Isai steamrolled through a whole crew almost lol
@mark_tapia
@mark_tapia 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, this intro’s got me so hyped.
@smashcaffe7968
@smashcaffe7968 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@sp0pie928
@sp0pie928 2 жыл бұрын
9:50 yoo reversing the clip and going for a zoom-in would've been dope there
@jarrymane912
@jarrymane912 2 жыл бұрын
still so well made even with 2007 clips/vods
@shromp2034
@shromp2034 2 жыл бұрын
Haven’t watched the video yet but I want that t shirt omg
@sunnyfalco3339
@sunnyfalco3339 2 жыл бұрын
clip of isai at 12:16 is hella wholesome lol
@BeyondEntertainment_
@BeyondEntertainment_ 2 жыл бұрын
🔥🔥🔥
@JusChez
@JusChez 2 жыл бұрын
YOUVE GOT TO REVIEW MANG0s run in the East Coast vs West Coast crew battle at MLG!
@cheebins
@cheebins 2 жыл бұрын
woke up to a new melee doc?? hell yeah
@papijr408
@papijr408 2 жыл бұрын
Only melee channel busting out melee facts I didn't know about. Your frame perfect 100/100 times like 2007 m2k.
@dereklewis4321
@dereklewis4321 2 жыл бұрын
Id love a video on Sfats multiple reverse 4 stocks.
@clutchedbyanangel
@clutchedbyanangel 2 жыл бұрын
Walt commentating my life: "This would be the last stock he would take in his career."
@ln8496
@ln8496 2 жыл бұрын
Very few people know exactly how good M2K is. M2k is not one of them. PC Chris is.
@LordTerias
@LordTerias Жыл бұрын
Lmao
@plebula_9894
@plebula_9894 2 жыл бұрын
We need to bring back crew battles it’s honestly the sickest thing in melee
@heyitsmort7744
@heyitsmort7744 2 жыл бұрын
Lets fuckin go Walt. This is most excellent
@SimnaibnSind
@SimnaibnSind 2 жыл бұрын
5:11 the picture I almost wasnt in.
@RyumaXtheXKing
@RyumaXtheXKing 6 ай бұрын
The dk vs ganon Crew battle was amazing!
@awareclueless
@awareclueless 2 жыл бұрын
16:22 LMAOOOO WHAT ARE THOSE GRABS
Imo should be replayed
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