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5 жыл бұрын

not working touch display solution IC-7100

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@donaldmittelstaedt500
@donaldmittelstaedt500 5 жыл бұрын
Peter, Thank you! I had to replace the adhesive on my digitizer. It still worked fine, but the glue had let go and needed to be replaced. I was so thankful to stumble on your video. It sure made this job super easy and the adhesive part was only 8 dollars! Cheapest purchase from Icom I've ever made! Thanks again for such a perfect video.
@TRXLab
@TRXLab 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your feed back Donald!
@lyntonprescott3412
@lyntonprescott3412 5 жыл бұрын
The reflections in the screen show just how much effort you have to put into each video. Camera in place camera moved and so on. Thank you for your efforts. Your videos are most entertaining and informative. 73 Lynton
@MrKelendros
@MrKelendros 5 жыл бұрын
Nice work Peter, as always. It is hard to find such quality explanations for whatever related radio issues. Thx a lot for your time.
@TRXLab
@TRXLab 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Carlos!
@kevinn9jkp839
@kevinn9jkp839 4 жыл бұрын
Glad I found this video. My 7100 has a dead touch screen, but before it died the radio was possessed, it was scanning wildly, it would then stop and lock up. When I would turn it off, it would turn itself back on. I called ICOM and they said do a full reset. I could not back anything up since the touchscreen was dead. So now it goes into ICOM but at least I know what needs to be done. Excellent video and the comments were all very helpful. BTW, My van was at the repair shop for about ten days in very hot weather, I should have taken the radio out, I suspect that this might be the cause of the problem.
@rperikson
@rperikson 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Peter. I just finished replacing my digitizer. It was not too difficult. I replaced it from the front. It was easy to remove because there was no glue left behind to clean up. It just popped out.
@TheRadioShop
@TheRadioShop 5 жыл бұрын
Nice quick repair Peter. Good to have these come in! Big thumbs up my friend.
@TRXLab
@TRXLab 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you my friend!
@hamandwine
@hamandwine 5 жыл бұрын
Just one thing that I learned from repairing many tablets. Set your heat-gun to 80..100°C, place it with a good distance over the glass and let it warm up, just slightly over the temperature you want to touch it. Then close in a bit more and run along the edges and corners that are glued. Now you can push out the glass and you keep most of the stick glue on one side. If it the glass side, you won, if it is the other side, it is much easier to pull it off, if it is in one piece. But never the less, good video again! Many thanks!
@TRXLab
@TRXLab 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the additional hints
@rscelectrical7091
@rscelectrical7091 5 жыл бұрын
Nice, reasonably simple repair there Peter. Thanks for sharing.
@TRXLab
@TRXLab 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@glenngoodale1709
@glenngoodale1709 5 жыл бұрын
Your projects are always amazing
@TRXLab
@TRXLab 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Glenn!
@rleeAZ
@rleeAZ 5 жыл бұрын
I like making a wooden scraper from craft sick, Popsicle stick or tongue depressor; just fashion a scraper edge on the wood with a razor knife. Limits risk of gouging plastic with knife. Nice primer on replacing the digitizer Peter.
@TRXLab
@TRXLab 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the additional idea Richie
@ojjenkins7110
@ojjenkins7110 5 жыл бұрын
This video was very interesting on the IC seventy one hundred. Thanks Peter.
@TRXLab
@TRXLab 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching OJ!
@orangetest999
@orangetest999 5 жыл бұрын
Recommend...check front panel keys first...because a stuck key will disable scanning and freeze the touchscreen.. You show good safe practices Peter...also in your attention to detail..I don't think there is any one better.
@TRXLab
@TRXLab 5 жыл бұрын
Good additional information. Thanks for stepping in
@ustas4177
@ustas4177 5 жыл бұрын
Good job. I always see your chenal. It's makes me feel better. Very easy to understand despite I speak English not very well. Thank you.
@TRXLab
@TRXLab 5 жыл бұрын
glad that you like my videos! Thanks for watching
@hancecrawford
@hancecrawford 5 жыл бұрын
Nice one peter good to see new update technology with touch screen they must be very expensive for touch screen and nice to see an engineer at work Big Thumbs up my friend :)
@TRXLab
@TRXLab 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you John! 73
@drewsmith6066
@drewsmith6066 5 жыл бұрын
Great work Peter.
@TRXLab
@TRXLab 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Drew
@bblod4896
@bblod4896 5 жыл бұрын
I use good masking tape to remove old glue. Just apply tape to glued area and carefully remove the tape. Usually, the old glue will adhere to the tape.
@OrbiterElectronics
@OrbiterElectronics 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter.. Another good job my friend 👍
@TRXLab
@TRXLab 5 жыл бұрын
Hi John thank you and good to see you my friend!
@jamessawyer4625
@jamessawyer4625 5 жыл бұрын
nice repair Peter.
@TRXLab
@TRXLab 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you James
@jeffminnick5209
@jeffminnick5209 5 жыл бұрын
Another job made easy...your skills are second to none Peter 73 Jeff de WD8JM
@TRXLab
@TRXLab 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words Jeff! 73
@pasqualeiw0hex95
@pasqualeiw0hex95 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Peter for sharing this video. 73s Pasquale IW0HEX
@TRXLab
@TRXLab 5 жыл бұрын
Always good to see you my friend! Thanks for comment! 73
@PapasDino
@PapasDino 5 жыл бұрын
Great job as usual Peter! Just curious, how did you determine that it was in fact the touch screen vs. the controller chip that led you to this replacement? 73 - Dino KL0S
@TRXLab
@TRXLab 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dino. Well three facts that we knew . 1. We knew about the fact that Icom has issues with the digitizer on the IC-7100 2. The radio was installed to the dashboard of a car and we had an extremely hot summer 3. When we pulled a little bit the left upper corner we was able to motivated the touch to work some times. That all was pointing to what we thought.
@johnblain417
@johnblain417 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter, How about you make a video that details your main test and measurement equipment in your lab. It would be interesting to know how much each piece of equipment cost you and whether it was bought new or used.
@mohammad1977f
@mohammad1977f 5 жыл бұрын
hI, Peter, it was a good job.
@TRXLab
@TRXLab 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Muhammad
@robertcalkjr.8325
@robertcalkjr.8325 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Peter. Alcohol helps to loosen up the glue.
@TRXLab
@TRXLab 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Robert! Even with alcohol it was still not easy to clean.
@DonDegidio
@DonDegidio 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter, First time seeing a digitizer replaced. I noticed a little damage in the upper left corner of old one. Could that have caused it to fail? 73 WB3BJU
@Werlaf
@Werlaf 5 жыл бұрын
Hello Donald, there is a damage indeed, but it is caused by lifting up the digitizer a little bit. By lifting up I could reactivate the digitizer for a little moment.(changing the capacity)) I think the failure is caused by the hot summer 2018 in the middle europe(the hottest in the last two centuries), I left my IC-7100 a few days in my car at temperatures maybe over 60° Celsius.(stupid, but happened. :-( 73, Olaf
@denismatte8727
@denismatte8727 5 жыл бұрын
good job for this radio good morning
@TRXLab
@TRXLab 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Denis!
@mikemkx4598
@mikemkx4598 2 жыл бұрын
Question.... my touch screen is dead...do you need to just re seat the display with fresh adhesive or do you need a new display??? thanks,, great video ! 73 Mike
@borayurt66
@borayurt66 5 жыл бұрын
Wow! 2 TRX Bench videos in a weelk! What a treat. :-) I have 2 quick questions Peter; 1) Since you ordered the digitizer panel beforehand, you should have known that it was not something else...How did you diagnose the problem? 2) What happens to a digitizer board? I mean what goes wrong with them and they stop working like that? Thanks for the video! 7100 is a very good rig.
@TRXLab
@TRXLab 5 жыл бұрын
1. Well three facts that we knew . 1. We knew about the fact that Icom has issues with the digitizer on the IC-7100 2. The radio was installed to the dashboard of a car and we had an extremely hot summer 3. When we pulled a little bit the left upper corner we was able to motivated the touch to work some times. That all was pointing to what we thought. 2. a capacitive digitizer uses a grid of horizontal and vertical wires with a little distance in between. Heat could made the inner structure change and thus less sensitive for touch. That is one possible scenario but certainly not the only one.
@borayurt66
@borayurt66 5 жыл бұрын
@@TRXLab Thank you Peter. :-)
@nick8ar560
@nick8ar560 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter! Nice video, thank you! One question - where I can buy a new display for repair of transceiver?
@TRXLab
@TRXLab 5 жыл бұрын
You need to contact ICOM services to by this spare part...73
@stargazer7644
@stargazer7644 Жыл бұрын
Why did the VFO knob not change the freq at 10:51 ?
@jonka1
@jonka1 5 жыл бұрын
Did you check the head unit to make sure where the fault lay? If so what do you look for? It would be easy to assume the problem and find it somewhere else having replaced the touch screen.
@TRXLab
@TRXLab 5 жыл бұрын
I know that Icom has/ had issues with the digitizer but there is nobody else I know who has swapped the digitizer before.
@yoerim360
@yoerim360 4 жыл бұрын
is it possible to chance the keys to? sometimes the mic power button and the button for the tuner don't respond any more
@yoerim360
@yoerim360 4 жыл бұрын
seems not possible?
@johntraxis2714
@johntraxis2714 5 жыл бұрын
How does a potential customer send a radio to you for repair?
@RobertAhrens52
@RobertAhrens52 5 жыл бұрын
Am I mistaken or have you had this radio - or this model of radio - on your bench a time or two before? I have been saving my $$ to buy one, but am beginning to have second thoughts. What are your thoughts on the reliability of this radio? 73 and TU de NT5A - Bob
@TRXLab
@TRXLab 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Robert, well that is not easy to say. On one hand I would not say that Icom radios are bad radios but on the other hand we have the most funny faults with Icom radios. I mean any radio brand is failing but Icom is different. Additional to that in Europe Icoms's service strategy is a nightmare. 73
@RobertAhrens52
@RobertAhrens52 5 жыл бұрын
@@TRXLab Thank you. In the past, I was impressed with the quality of Icom rigs. Specifically, the IC-37A was a beautiful, ground-breaking piece of art. But that was a long time ago. I have had Kenwood HF radios for decades - a TS-440SAT - which spent some time at Kenwood repairing the "usual" problems with that radio, and my current TS-570. I have been very happy with both of those radios and still have both of them. I use the '440 when I need a portable rig, and long ago, I even used it mobile. Now I am thinking about buying a dedicated mobile rig and the IC-7100 looks impressive for that purpose. Except for the times I have seen the insides of it on your bench! I am also looking to buy a newer base station rig - and Yaesu has my attention. But I do love Kenwoods. I just feel that the TS-590 is getting a little old. Anyway, thank you for all you do. I greatly enjoy your approach and skill in working on these wonderful examples of modern technology! 73 de NT5A - Bob
@OleF112
@OleF112 5 жыл бұрын
Good job, Peter...just a finger warming exercise ;-) Nice to look at. 73 de Olaf
@TRXLab
@TRXLab 5 жыл бұрын
LOL yeah that's it 73
@mj2801
@mj2801 3 жыл бұрын
Has anyone experience any problems with the USB on the IC 7100? The usb works fine with control software no issues there. However after using JS8Call for FT8, CAT no longer works. Tried resetting, re-installing application. Decoding no longer works with JS8Call. Now my audio at 50% shows over driving the software or in the RED. Any ideas?
@witektaaham6297
@witektaaham6297 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, could you tell me where to buy touch screen for this Icom model?
@Edwilldesign
@Edwilldesign 3 жыл бұрын
Just brought one from ICOM spare parts in the UK. Parts number: 6910023901, desc: WT5036-E-1 7100 TOUCH SCREEN, costing £29.90 inc delivery. Thanks TRX Bench - great guide.
@jameskrivitsky9715
@jameskrivitsky9715 5 жыл бұрын
Guten tag Peter, what is it that breaks or malfunctions on those touch sensitive screens ? J K
@TRXLab
@TRXLab 5 жыл бұрын
Hi James, a capacitive digitizer uses a grid of horizontal and vertical wires with a little distance in between. Heat could made the inner structure change and thus less sensitive for touch. That is one possible scenario but certainly not the only one.
@herbertsusmann986
@herbertsusmann986 5 жыл бұрын
Do you know if that touch overlay is resistive touch or capacitive touch?
@TRXLab
@TRXLab 5 жыл бұрын
For a resistive digitizer you would need to put a bit pressure to it as that is not the fact I believe it is a capacitive one.
@herbertsusmann986
@herbertsusmann986 5 жыл бұрын
@@TRXLab OK. Nice to know. I wonder what failed then? Did the overlay get damaged in some way so one of the conductive paths got broken?
@stargazer7644
@stargazer7644 5 жыл бұрын
The 7100 has a resistive touch screen. Capacitive screens don't work well with gloves on.
@billwoo1743
@billwoo1743 4 жыл бұрын
Where can I buy the touch display? Mys is broken too. vy73 de ki5eas
@blackpearle8952
@blackpearle8952 5 жыл бұрын
would you have the part # for that screen you replaced? is it the MP20 or The DS1. Thanks
@TRXLab
@TRXLab 5 жыл бұрын
Please refer to the service manual there you find what you are looking for...
@blackpearle8952
@blackpearle8952 5 жыл бұрын
@@TRXLab MP20 8930086960 3393 LCD SPONGE Thanks
@paulwilliamson5985
@paulwilliamson5985 3 жыл бұрын
No, the LCD SPONGE is behind the plastic front panel and is just a cushion for the actual LCD. The touchscreen part number is 6910023900, which includes 6910023901 (the actual touchscreen glass panel) and 8930095370 (the adhesive). When I ordered from ICOM America, they sent me just the touchscreen without the adhesive, even though this video shows the adhesive pre-applied.
@danishnative9555
@danishnative9555 5 жыл бұрын
Modern disposable ham radio. Great stuff isn't it?
@TRXLab
@TRXLab 5 жыл бұрын
LOL yeah
@georgeorwell100
@georgeorwell100 5 жыл бұрын
I assume almost the same protocol for the ID5100.
@TRXLab
@TRXLab 5 жыл бұрын
Yes it is :-)
@mikemkx4598
@mikemkx4598 2 жыл бұрын
The video was help in replacing the touch screen except... you didnt include the dismantling the inside unit... and not showing how you disconnected / re connected the ribbon cables...you skipped a few steps.... there are different screw sizes so be aware when removing them. :)
@vanderlei.santos
@vanderlei.santos Жыл бұрын
Hello friend where can i find this part to buy? my ic-7100 has the same problem thank 73
@stargazer7644
@stargazer7644 Жыл бұрын
Icom?
@vanderlei.santos
@vanderlei.santos Жыл бұрын
@@stargazer7644 Do you have the icom contact please can you pass it to me?
@sindl1
@sindl1 Жыл бұрын
Who can i by a new Touchscreen?
@gvvq-pi5ml
@gvvq-pi5ml 5 жыл бұрын
Good Video Peter, how do you get those ribbon cables back into their holders i tried once and found it nearly impossible, you seem to do it easy from Fred g4vvq.
@TRXLab
@TRXLab 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Fred. Well normally it is no big deal to get back the ribbon cables if you take care on the concept. There are some where you need to unlock the socket to get the cable back in may be that was the problem?
@gvvq-pi5ml
@gvvq-pi5ml 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Peter...
@abeleski
@abeleski 5 жыл бұрын
Why do you wear gloves?
@Werlaf
@Werlaf 5 жыл бұрын
for not leaving fingerprints on the new display.
@TRXLab
@TRXLab 5 жыл бұрын
so it is :^)
@1112223333111
@1112223333111 5 жыл бұрын
2nd!
@TRXLab
@TRXLab 5 жыл бұрын
:^)
@brettshields7292
@brettshields7292 5 жыл бұрын
Why not try touch the screen a it longer, I'm not surprised it didn't respond, it's like you're trying to prove to someone why it doesn't work, sorry just me being a sceptic, you also touched the keypad a lot longer after the repair!!
@TRXLab
@TRXLab 5 жыл бұрын
Hm Brett not entirely sure if I got your point??? The radio came in because touch was not working so it was already proofed by the owner??
@Werlaf
@Werlaf 5 жыл бұрын
After 5 years working with this radio, you exactly know, how to handle the touch. A very short fingertip always was enough.(of course Peter got this information). Pressing a certain button for a longer time activates a second function.
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