This is the 3rd time watching this and it's the 1st time I got the Terminator joke at the end. Subtle Mark.

My dad had an 1887 that was thought to be lost in Katrina, it turns out my brother in law had gotten it a few days after the storm and had his father hold it. I just got it back yesterday and I could not be happier. Now to find someone to restore it. It's one of the only things I have of my dad, I'm so excited. I also got his S.S. Northcote double barrel side-by-sie

The grin on the guy in the end. That is why I've grown up smithing, it never gets old. You can fix the gun of an 80 year old and see that kid on Christmas morning one more time.

Absolutely delighted that I got the chance to "Like" this twice.

John Moses Browning was a genius...but he loved a puzzle 😎😎😎...fantastic video on the restoration/preservation!

Mark I feel for you. I just purchased a 1917 Model 12 Winchester. It looked good outside, but had a very sluggish action. Once apart I found it looked like this 1887. The owner just shot it and never went down the rabbit hole and do the maintenance. But thanks to your years of coaching and information, it's now a functioning Senior Shotgun!

Anyone pick up on Mark’s Terminator reference?

Mark, I’ve been an almost gunsmith for thirty years. I learn something new, or something I do is reenforced as correct every time I watch one of your videos. Thank you for taking the time to make your instructional videos. I’m sure your detractors are learning as well.

( 13:29 - 15:44 ) the most satisfying thing to watch, orange turning to blue. not gonna lie, every time i watch this bit, my shorts start to tent...

When I watched the barrel being wire-wheeled and that original blueing just POPPED out of "nowhere", it brought a tear to my eye. Such a professional job you will rarely see. MANY thanks.

New and permanent Subscriber 4 Life ! My dad trained me to be an Electrical Journeyman, I got injured EVERYDAY he always said this to me 04:50 every time.

I bought a very rusty brown 1890 flobert cyclist pistol and took it apart. Degreased it, then boiled it for 45 minutes and brushed it very gently with some steelwool (first soaked in alcohol) then i soaked it in petroleum. (Heater fuell) and wow what an awesome result. Underneath the rust was nickleplating and the moving parts like hammer, trigger and extractor were black. Now it looks nice and is functional. It' s only a real challenge to hit something, it's tiny. I learned that from this channel. You are a great teacher Mark. :))

Thank you for what you do. You motivated me to replace the stock on a Winchester Model 1890 22 short pump action rifle my Mom's Dad had that he used to shoot squirrels out of his peach trees in Washington D.C. back in the 40 and 50s. There was a bit of mung on and in the rifle but I very carefully clean it without removing any of the patina on the metal. Very slight difference between the foreend and the stock but I am happy with it. Rifle shoots pretty well with 22 shorts.

Not sure if anybody else ever told you, but you sir are a national treasure. I absolutely love and adore what it is that you do here. 👍

Thank you again for emphasizing not to throw out the bag until the job is finished because small parts can be caught in the folds. I've had many arguments with people who have thrown out boxes w/ packing material from /new/ parts orders *after* screaming they didn't find everything they expected. [Distributor] and [Mfg.s] maliciously sent us "complementary" replacement orders knowing that the customs duties/taxes would cost us thousands of dollars for the *dozens* of repeat orders those "people" placed every week; Irrespective of /if/ I'd handed them the heaps of parts their boxes *that* I had to pull out of (and around) the overflowing dumpster to make room, and found literal heaps of parts that fell out once I'd "cleaned" them out. (Even more infuriating was that we'd had compatible "generic" parts on the shelf but they'd wanted to use the "actual" parts from the companies that made the datasheets they found by Googling the internet; and not our internal library incl. parts from those same companies by type...)

I'm not into old gun's as much as newer gun's but something about the way he explains what and how he is fixing or building these gun's is very relaxing and calming. This would make a Great TV Show.

A good gunsmith, which you undoubtedly are, is also a good mechanic. Thus you look at a bag full of pieces and understand how they might go together. The rest is a master-class demonstration of your art.

Thank you so much for your knowledge and videos. I'm just a hobbyist and I perform refinishing via cerekote and sandblasting and rebuild stock sets and perform basic gunsmithing for folks. I've restored close to 30 guns in the past 3 or 4 years. You have taught me so much about conservation and I love it. I truly truly appreciate all your knowledge you share with us. My friends father was a gunsmith for 50 years and he taught us quite a bit about the trade but he's passed now and I lost my mentor until I found your channel. I guess I'm just trying to say I'm so grateful for your videos. Thank again :)

I liked the Terminator reference. Great job as always !

Getting the "Bag" is an expression we use at work. hehe.. Off subject, the music that you posted as being inspirational includes (Rush). Now, stay with me. Rush was very innovational and many things can be centered around the artwork of each of the members. one, in particular, was Neal Pert, he unlike the others did not have a (Mind) melody to work with. he, however, was a percussionist and understood the mathematical navigation to a rhythm. I saw him in an interview back in the '80s talking about the exercise challenge of not just being like any other "Drummer" So,, he broke down a classic Piano script, scraping off the frosting and getting to what the cake was made of. he applied those Base notes, crescendos, tenor, alto and pico to the mathematics of percussion and wrote exercises for him to practice. anyway, Much has been copied in Firearms, however, people that build on foundations of what they understand and apply it to being innovative and moving it out of the comfort zone are practicing a true art. That does not make us John Browning or Beethoven, however, in a way we can call it our own device. -Dave

What an absolute joy to see this lovely old rifle getting much needed care and conservation from an expert whom understands and respects these historic weapons. Subscribed.

My dad purchased one of these in the 80s at a family estate sale. It had been left outside and is all rusted to hell. I'm thinking of now attempting to do something with it. It has been sitting behind his bedroom door since he got it.

Did that customer ride a motorcycle and have a deep accent? :-)

That Feed N Wax is absolutely epic stuff. It works on furniture too if you like your old wood to not just be in the safe

Poor gat. Mark will fix you right up. It's amazing what a bit of hot water will do to a gun. Thanks for sharing this piece of art.

I watched it twice, and then sent it on to friends. Thanks!

These youtube recommendations are spot on. Almost as though they know I will benefit from this great info because of a house fire. I managed to get the metal treated correctly and did not damage the wood . Thank you for doing the pain-in-the-ass recovery operations!

Magnificent job Mark, it's an absolute pleasure to watch you work and listen to your insight. Cheers

I will NEVER get tired of watching you whire wheel a gun that has come out of the conversion tank to reveal that glorious, wonderful blueing. What a pleasureable sight it is!

I am ashamed to admit it, but I have Bubbaed a gun or two when my brother and I were teenagers. Never again thank you for setting us straight. Another amazing job. Thanks for taking us along 👍.

Mr Zogs! As a kid growing up in Huntington Beach California, surfing everyday, it was my go to wax. I can still smell it. It’s the best wax for your stick. I’ll be using it on my nest restoration project. I can see where it would be awesome

"If you're gonna be dumb, you gotta be tough."

Very cool Mark. Couple of things that I found helpful, Numrich Gun Parts catalog for schematics/exploded diagrams. Broken #11 xacto blades, grind the broken tip flat and they work really well to clean out straight screw slots.

I'm looking at a nice old Colt Lightning slide action rifle in 32-20 that is all in brown patina, a perfect prospect for boiling/steaming.

I was bequeathed a S&W Model one I have put it away because the person 2 owners ago, took steel wool to "fix" the barrel. Broke my heart.

Lol the terminator reference at the end and the hang tag says T-800.

“If you gotta be dumb - you gotta be tough” - story of all my woodworking

I owned a model 1901 Winchester Lever action 10 Gauge back in the 1970's.The Model1901 was similar to the 1887 but it had an articulated lever with a locking latch which locked the lever in the closed position, similar to a Winchester 1895 Lever Action Rifle. The 1901 was designed to handle 2-7/8" Smokeless Powder loads. I shot Remington 2-7/8"factory loads (which they still made back in the '70's) and Smokeless hand loads in the 1901. The 1887 was NOT designed for Smokeless powder, it was intended for Black Powder Only. It might be safe for light Smokeless loads if they are properly pressure tested. However, I would recommend just shooting Black Powder in the 1887, if it is in good condition, and enjoy it as it was intended to be used. Regards, Gungineer, Mike Piekarski

“Down the rabbit hole” takes on such a different meaning now. You are a gem. Love this channel

Nice shotgun, my uncle recently showed me one of these that belonged to my grandfather. It’s definitely in rough condition with pitting on the barrel. Thanks for sharing Anvil. I enjoy your work.

As a musician and firearms fellow I've used something called Music Nomad guitar polish on an old SKS stock that was looking pretty tired. Amazing stuff....this seems to be a cleaner / polish and then used their guitar wax. That's a Brazilian Carnauba wax and the results were outstanding and I have it on hand anyway. Price was not too bad...

Love the old 1887 Browning design Winchester as it is, not cut down like so many originals were for Cowboy Action Shoots. What makes it doubly painful is the fact that there was a modern reproduction of the 1887 that can handle modern loads without the need to alter these beauties'. Well done sir, well done.

Howard Feed N Wax is amazing stuff! Awesome video- Thank you!

I love your work bro. I have a winchester 1901 10ga and I can't wait to try it out. I ordered some 2 7/8 in light loads for it as to not damage it. Great job on that old girl sir.

Marvel Mystery Oil is about the best penetrating oil. I soak small parts in it to loosen up rust,grime and screws

Mr. Novak, I wish I had known you back when I was a dumbass teenager. I have a box of parts from an old Armi San Marco Colt Model P clone. I took a scotch brite pad to it because it had gotten covered in surface rust from sitting in a humid room for a long while. Next thing you know, I had stripped all of the lovely bluing right off. I still pull the box out from time to time to remind myself that I am a moron.

So! Nobody is talking about the end??!?! The owner of the gun? The customer?? "This dude was SCARY and he said he'd be back" No, cant be. Could it??

Great videos. I was told by Turnbull to send my Model 1956 Mannlicher Schoenauer (AG PUCH) to New England Custom Gun. I need a new fore end cap and restoration on all the metal . It was left to me by my grandfather and has sentimental value. He neglected it though. After watching many of your videos I would only have you do the work. I love that you take every last pin,spring,screw,etc. apart and can treat and refinish everything.

Man I would be honored to have you work on my 1887

Mark if KZfaq was fair you would have millions of subscribers for sure.

So nice to watch a true mechanic at work. Great job.

That is a super cool shotgun and a beautiful restoration. I love how you maintained the antique look.

Absolutely beautiful gun just goes to show take the time to conserve and it comes out spectacular!

You are still the man Mark!

That's a "bag-O-gun", or "box-O-gun". I charge $100 to even take one in for assessment. Not going to do the parts count, find the schematic and parts lists for nothing! Thanks for another gem Mark. Rev. D.

For anybody in the same boat, I can confirm the Winchester 1887 magazine tube IS threaded to the receiver

Dad had one of those when i was a little fella he bought it for 25-30 $ got it home and went through it it has some issues with the lever and bolt and loader assemblies he tore it down and looked it over and dove deeper into the fireing assemblys and all that and yes like that one there it was packed full of rust unburned powder and dirt and munghe finally disassembled the full gun with exception of the barrel and loader tube. The wood was excellent with a few dings and slight scratchesnothing that took away from its looks the whole gun was a kind of orange brown colorafter tearing it down as far as possible he ran it through a steaming hot bath in a wash cabnet that only used super heated water and steam it turned out very nice all the original blueing shown so wonderfully and the wood he cleaned and steamed out the dings and the scratches about disappeared.all the parts cleaned up and exposed some ware problems that he had addressed by Otto Strenkert a pretty well known local gun smith and machine shop owner he restored and repaired the worn parts and reset the parts that were at their worse that would keep the gun from being a runner. Dad found some period correct ammo for it and burned off a few rounds cleaned it and sold it shortly after with documentation as to the restoration of worn and broken parts repaired by Otto.when it sold the fellow who bought it was the same fella who sold it to dad, i guess he was happier buying back his gun in its prettier state and paid 10x what he sold it for at his insistance. Dad let him have it back. Until i seen that one on your bench and in terminator movies and johnwayne movies return of the 66, i really didnt think id ever see another like it.

I've gotten real good at taking apart my 1969 Belgium auto 5 12 ga 3 in mag. I inherited from my grandfather and its my go to hunting gun eventhough I own the new a5.

It took me a second before i got the reference at the end. Thanks for another great video Mark.

Hey Mark...really love the videos. Reading the comments section is always fun ...seems some viewers are either too young or witless to understand the entertainment content you provide. Keep rollin’ it brother !

"if you're gonna be dumb you've gotta be tough!" lol Alternatively, "If you're gonna be dumb, do it on your own time!" I love your little quips Mark, they do make me laugh and reminds me of my instructors when I did my engineering apprenticeship back in the 90's at the Army Apprentice College in Chepstow, UK. they were mostly ex military too, so even though vets from a different country it just goes to show how servicemen across the world seem to have a similar mentality and black humour. keep up the good work!

I came for the final comments.. Mark, you're too cool for an ole timer. Keep up the fantastic work!

Only just found out you've got your own channel Mr. Novak, instantly subbed.

Fantastic work as usual.

OMG, i didnt notice the terminator joke last time i watched this one 😆😆😆

Dude I love watching your Channel I'm just now getting into collecting older firearms, channel and others have helped me learn so much that I would never have known

6:38 Dam they destroyed the patina !

Really nice job !! Kudos to the apprentices !!!

13:54 that is SUPER satisfying to watch!

It's amazing how all that rust was hiding so much of the original blueing of that gun. Boil it, convert the red rust to black rust, and card off the loose stuff....and behold the beauty that was hiding from sight. Too bad this technique does not work for wrinkles.....boil my face, steel wool it a bit, and look 30 years younger. Don't think it will work...and not about to test it.

This is extremely satisfying to watch

If I knew half of what Mark has forgotten about gunsmithing my fuzzy little head would explode

So no one noticed the terminator ref at the end??

Theres not a whole lot of slot left in here so im gonna have to hold onto this with my hand. Story of my life.

Sir, You make gunsmithing FUN

"This dude was scary and he said he'll be back." Haha that was great.

Love the Terminator reference,,,Mark, as always, priceless content. Damn I wish I had made it through sub school and served with you,,,,,

i have a modern 10g shot gun, i can not believe how hard the gun kicks its almost as bad as my 12g. that was a beautiful gun when you finished it. love the videos.

Fyi that "All 16th" wrench fits the TOP hex part of the driver too, up near the handle. Tends to be a little easier to manage tje birds nest of tools that way. Some drivers have a nice nut up there at the bit-shaft/handle union.

the magazine tube is threaded. Good idea to leave it the threads are super fine and delicate.

Mark you need to add more of your awesome piano playing to your vids..

That bag of parts separates the men from the boys, grin. Better you than me these days, and many thanks. (Old mechanics have bad hands, sigh.)

no offence mark, but i really wanna see a video where you struggle or fail to restore a gun, you make your job look so damn easy. i know he is technicly skilled and this is difficult work, but damn he makes it look like a cakewalk

Scuzz, Gak and Mung, attys at law.

When I was a young man in the sixties I found an 1887 gun.I knew very little about guns then. I shot it many times and never had a problem? It was a 12 guage . The one thing I do remember it ejected the empty cases in front of my eyes and over my head as I recall? Loved that gun but someone stole it from me!

The 1901 you have thate is rated for smokless powder. They still only shoot 2 7/8 shells.

13:35 to 15:48 was *tremendously* satisfying.

"Master Conserator" You Passion Shows...

OK bud, subscribed to your new standalone channel, Onward !!

The T800 label😂

My dad back in the sixties borrowed in 1887 lever action 10 gauge from his uncle my great uncle and used it for goose hunting it was in mint shape and it might’ve been from the end of the run of 87 Winchester‘s because I don’t think he was using black powder shotgun shells, the shells had a paper wad

Gosh, I love this gun. Nice work Mark!

Overwhelmingly Awesome 👏👏

Look absolutely amazing beautiful restoration

great stuff as usual. It took me a while to twig onto the Arnold reference.

Mark is a superior carbon based life form

Awwww that's a fine Winchesterrr. Jimmy Stewart.

Gave this video a thumbs up only because no way to give it two. Great work.

damn that was an awsome restore

I got a 1932 Diana 35mm aigun and a 1885 Winder musket, both in bags, both together and shooting