1895 Restoration -Time to Test Fire

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Let's see how this freshly restored Winchester 1895 shoots. We'll also talk about some issues with 1895's in 30-06 that prompted Winchester to discontinue the cartridge in this model.

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@jeffreyhooper3678 8 ай бұрын

We all get a little bit smarter after each of your videos Mark. Thanks!

@edwardweiszbeck1649 4 ай бұрын

Great video 👍 Thanks for making and posting it. Nice guns those 1895

@KenBlackRifleAmerica 8 ай бұрын

A gorgeous Winchester 1895 in 30-06 Mark. Your attention to detail and knowledge will allow this beautiful piece of history to be enjoyed for many years to come. Thanks for sharing! Happy Trails back at ya, and good luck hunting!!

@mohammedcohen 8 ай бұрын

...just foundf some new manufacture (Hornady HSM, cowboy load 165 gr) ammo at the West Palm Beach show last week...looking forward to finally shooting my 1895 - made ca 1916...

@richiesuggs5903 8 ай бұрын

I am so glad to see someone take these wonderful older guns and bring them back to full life. Thank you for sharing this with us.

@oregonoutback7779 8 ай бұрын

I find straight grain walnut to be my favorite on these old rifles. Beautiful restoration, very nice job. Thanks for sharing, Mark.

@cozmcwillie7897 5 ай бұрын

Delicious sound it makes.

@AmateurRedneckWorkshop 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the video keep on keeping on.

@joelowery6919 8 ай бұрын

A fine restoration job Mark!

@matthiashellmann6211 3 ай бұрын

great clip, thanks. I got lots of information. Last week I got a Miroku Winch 95 in 30-06 for shooting. Always wanted an original one but my buddy, a gun smith told me about problems wth modern loading pressures. I couldn't believe untill you told the same. greetings from Germany....

@thecinnabar8442 3 ай бұрын

Matthias. It's my understanding that the reproductions are made from a higher quality steel than the originals and don't suffer from headspace issues.

@lutherpayne9957 8 ай бұрын

I love seeing old firearms coming back to life. Well done.

@snappers_antique_firearms 8 ай бұрын

Looks brand new

@ditzydoo4378 8 ай бұрын

Just came across two 1895's in my local Gunshop today. The first a military type of carbine in honest to goodness 30-03 Springfield. the other a slim barreled sporter in .35-Winchester, which was a wildcat 30-40-Krag with a .358 caliber bullet. As to bluing, with Winchester there was a period that the receivers and barrel steels were too high of Nickel and would revert to the white. About 1929/30 or so Winchester switched to what they called "Winchester Proof-Steel". This metal would take any bluing method. The problem was the metal make-up, not the bluing. The Du-Lite method is just faster (typically 30-minutes) and far and away cheaper to produce than the long and labor-intensive Rust-blue method. I have an 1894 Winchester (.32 Win Special) the receiver was high nickel and made in 1928 and wouldn't hold bluing. At that time a new company "Turnbull Restoration Company" was advertising in Shotgun News. I sent them the rifle and had the receiver and other parts color cased and rust blued the barrel/magazine tube in the original Winchester method. It to this day still is looking as new as when I received it back. The color casing changes the molecular make-up of the metal at the surface but leaves the under laying metal intact.

@doranmaxwell1755 5 ай бұрын

Couple of questions you will likely be able to answer. One.. I have never heard of a nickel plated Winchester. In the movie Bone Tomahawk there is what looks like a 92 full nickel plate. I know a few south American companies made nickel plate clone 92's Did Winchester ever offer such? Also I have a Remington 81 in .300 Savage. What a great gun! accurate and powerful and not all that heavy. I would love to see you do something on one. The .300 is really the father of the .308 and I think a very useful caliber even today.

@chrischiampo7647 8 ай бұрын

Absolutely Amazing Work Mark I Don’t Think It Ever Looked That Good The Day It Rolled Out of The Winchester Factory 😀😮😮😮😀❤️❤️❤️

@henrysara7716 8 ай бұрын

Thank you Mark.

@steveshoemaker6347 8 ай бұрын

What a beautiful redo job.....Thanks Mark.... Old F-4 Shoe🇺🇸

@chrisviking428 8 ай бұрын

Great job! It all looks great but you can really tell by the work in the wood 🪵

@poowg2657 8 ай бұрын

I am one of the types that doesn't like "patina". A gorgeous restoration, well done sir.

@pogonomyrmexrugosus6240 8 ай бұрын

Rifle turned out great. The sound of that .30-06 echoing through the hills sounds so good.

@thecinnabar8442 8 ай бұрын

I agree. Thankfully, it didn't spook the deer too much. We took two nice bucks later that afternoon. I got mine with an 1895 in 35 WCF

@cervus-venator 8 ай бұрын

A very nicely redone old rifle. Thanks for sharing and explaining the head spacing issue with these.

@flintrichards945 8 ай бұрын

Beautiful job on that Winchester model 95 I always like to see your old gun that’s not a super collectors model get a new life.

@chipsterb4946 8 ай бұрын

I love your devotion to bringing old firearms back to life. Beautiful job!

@mcbridecreek 8 ай бұрын

Super job Mark! I know how much work goes into fitting wood stocks and polishing barrels. Years ago, I built a TC Hawken from a kit. Lots of work. That 95 sure is purdy!

@jason0870 8 ай бұрын

Beautiful rifle.

@donjohnson605 8 ай бұрын

What a beauty 👍

@scotthagele3254 8 ай бұрын

Very nice, looks like new!

@galenhisler396 8 ай бұрын

Very nice ! Thanks for sharing .

@richardboquist1531 8 ай бұрын

Great video. Thanks

@milesbliss3256 8 ай бұрын

Great video

@trashman431954 8 ай бұрын

Beautiful piece!

@klesmer 8 ай бұрын

Thanks Mark, I really appreciate your videos especially the ones on old guns.

@edwarddykstra1131 8 ай бұрын

Wow! Beautiful job!

@billfisher6708 8 ай бұрын

Awesome job on the rifle!

@andrewsjames94 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the incredible work this is a gift my brother is sending me

@dogbone1358 8 ай бұрын

Must be real special. Getting the white glove treatment.

@usnchief1339 8 ай бұрын

Great job Mark! I just started a deep cleaning project on a 3rd year of production 10 Gauge Win 1887. It was covered in a light but hard layer of rust. After removing the rust, there were no major pits. That's good news. Looks good for a 132 year old shotgun. I will lube it up real good and put it aside until I can get to it. Still finishing up my current project.

@prestonmonaghan499 8 ай бұрын

Enjoyed it!

@johnmollet2637 8 ай бұрын

Excellent looking rifle Mark, I'm quite sure the owner will treasure it for a long time.

@furmanmackey5479 8 ай бұрын

Back in 2017 I stumbled up on a pristine '95 in .405 WCF. The rifle had been purchased, by the gun store owner, from an estate auction along with several other long guns several days prior. I was, of course, really, really interested in the old rifle and some serous "dickering" ensued. Sadly, from my point of view at least, it came down to an even steven trade of the '95 and a much-cherished Savage '99 in .250-3000. Since I love me some old Savage lever guns, I just could not make the trade. Sometimes, when I take one of my '99s deer hunting, I think about that Model '95 and how it would have performed in the close cover areas I occasionally hunt with my old .30-30s and trusty .35 Remington lever actions. Excellent video as usual! Keep 'em comin'!

@Leverguns50 8 ай бұрын

Turned out beautiful

@sprintcarfan87 8 ай бұрын

Beautiful rifle. Good video. I'm glad that found your channel.

@kevspss 8 ай бұрын

It’s gorgeous, Mark

@davidgoldberg 8 ай бұрын

That's beautiful!

@wonderloaf 8 ай бұрын

Beautiful rifle!

@ChadwickMoran 8 ай бұрын

Beautiful

@practicalplinking6133 8 ай бұрын

No cheek piece towel ?? I jest !! Very nice !!

@thecinnabar8442 8 ай бұрын

😂😂

@williamray3101 8 ай бұрын

Got two 1894's. A 30-30 made 1907. And a 25-35 made 1905. Great petiina took decade to get it.😊😊😊 Guns great condition.

@ofreen 8 ай бұрын

Very nice work and video. Did you show the rifle in its before condition in another video? How unusual to hear traffic noise in one of your videos. The last time I was on that road, I think I was the only one on it when I was there. You must have felt like you were being invaded. ha ha

@mikeclausen5691 7 ай бұрын

Could you talk about the early model 1895s that used a leaf spring for the magazine? I’ve not Seen or heard much about these. I have one and I think it was made around 1905. It’s in 30-06. Thanks.

@thecinnabar8442 7 ай бұрын

The leaf springs were used for the magazines until the 1895 take-downs were introduced. That leaf spring protruding out under the forend wasn't compatible with a takedown assembly, so they were replaced with an internal coil spring in all the 1895's going forward. The leaf spring are certainly much easier to deal with when working on '95's.

@elberttanner6189 8 ай бұрын

What would one think of Nickel Plating the face of the locking block up to tolerance? Or hard chrome.

@thecinnabar8442 8 ай бұрын

Very interesting thought. That's worth considering.

@mohammedcohen 8 ай бұрын

....what - if any - influence did the 30-4o- Krag round have on the development of the 30 WCF (30-30)

@chrislang5659 8 ай бұрын

Surplus ammo sadly isn't going to be an issue anymore! 😢

@markchoate9021 8 ай бұрын

Mark, just curious as to how many folks you have helping you do these old restorations? With so many hours invested, it has to be more than just you working in the shop?

@timrobinson6573 8 ай бұрын

Instead of the bluing you should have given it a zombie green Cerakote or a digital camo hydro dip. Something more modern would have looked better.

@edwardcollier5949 7 ай бұрын

OK bubba

@Tom-ki3lq 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the video Mark. Have you run into headspace issues on the 95 in 30-40??

@thecinnabar8442 8 ай бұрын

No. 30-40 Krag doesn't produce nearly as much chamber pressure as 30-06. About 40,000 PSI

@Tom-ki3lq 8 ай бұрын

Thank you

@kenmartin9106 8 ай бұрын

Would 06 m 1 garand load's as you are sure to know are at lower pressure help with this issue. Just thinking how to fix a problem. Enjoy your channel. Blue steel and wood love it.

@thecinnabar8442 8 ай бұрын

As I mentioned, according to Keith and Whelen, any loads in the 42-43K PSI range can be safely fired in an 1895 without creating headspace issues. Winchester recommends pressures for the 1895 not exceed 47,500 PSI. The info I've found indicates that M1 ball ammo produces 50,000 PSI. They are lower than modern day 30-06, but I wouldn't regularly use them in an original 1895.

@BillB23 8 ай бұрын

What about 1895s in 7.62x54R? Are there many (any) in the US? I know they existed but my historical knowledge is almost zero. Please enlighten me. Edit: Thank you for taking the time to produce and edit these videos. I pray that some time you'll break even or even turn a profit with ScrewTube.

@thecinnabar8442 8 ай бұрын

There were 293,000 Russian contract 1895 muskets produced, more than 2/3rds of the total production of 1895's. There's no way to know how many have returned to the United States. Based on their scarcity, I'd guess it's a very small percentage. Unfortunately, many of those have been modified and/or refinished. Original and complete 1895 Russian muskets have become highly prized by collectors and the asking prices have soared lately. Well used examples have an average asking price of around $6K these days.

@scottscheuerman8714 8 ай бұрын

Does the recent made 95 Winchester develop the head space problems of the older models 95’s

@ChadwickMoran 8 ай бұрын

No, he addresses that in the video. Current production 95’s don’t have any concerns with headspace.

@Kavics78 5 ай бұрын

Good Day Everyone! I just acquired an original M1895 in .405 Win. . The serial number is 58831. Barrel signed: "MANTON & CO.", NICKEL STEEL BARREL ESPECIALLY FOR SMOKELESS POWDER" It is not in a good shape. All the blueing is gone and the wood have a lot of scars. Obviously had a rough life. Where can I found information about my gun ? I mean: When build, where it sold, etc. Thanks in advance! P.S.: Can we get a "Before/After" picture from this lovely .30-06 somehow?

@thecinnabar8442 5 ай бұрын

Sounds like a very interesting 1895! If its serial number is lower than 60,000, the Cody Firearms Museum will have the factory records for your rifle, but they don't have shipping and destination records.

@edwardmorriale9358 8 ай бұрын

Beautiful weapon. I've been meaning to ask you about alternative ammo for a 30/40 Krag. Any ideas?

@thecinnabar8442 8 ай бұрын

Thanks Edward! What kind of "alternative ammo" for 30/40 Krag are you asking about?

@edwardmorriale9358 8 ай бұрын

@@thecinnabar8442 Something readily available. I don't know enough about it to make a choice. I just want a useable ammunition.

@usnchief1339 8 ай бұрын

@@edwardmorriale9358 Gonna have to reload.

@thecinnabar8442 8 ай бұрын

There's quite a bit of it on GunBroker, but most prices are pretty steep. If you watch closely, you can occasionally get some at a reasonable price. There is a seller on Ammoseek.com selling some at $99 a box. Remington used to make runs of it from time to time and the price would come down quite a bit. I don't know if they will again since the company sold. Best of luck

@DeathMond. 8 ай бұрын

I would think 150 fmj 30-06 designed for garands would be suitably light enough in pressures? Beautiful rifle very nice work. Why doesn't the 7.62x54R have the same issues in the 1895?

@thecinnabar8442 8 ай бұрын

I believe they would have the same issues. I believe that if you were to regularly shoot modern 7.62x54r cartridges loaded to max C.I.P. pressures (56,500 psi), you would end up with the same issues. The well-used Russian muskets I've fired usually show some signs of excess headspace with slightly backed out primers. It's quite likely that most have only been fired with WW1 era ammo that almost certainly produced less pressure than today's ammo.

@HaNsWiDjAjA 5 ай бұрын

@@thecinnabar8442 Hey Mark, I have been reading some of Townsend Whelen's work, and he wrote that in his experience the original Winchester 1895 were generally not accurate rifles. In his book "Ballistics" he wrote that groups of 4.5 to 7 inches at 100 yards were typical, and the Winchester company even told him that accuracy was indeed problematic for this model. Have you found this to be true? Thanks

@thecinnabar8442 5 ай бұрын

@@HaNsWiDjAjA I'm sure I've shot a much greater variety of 1895's than the good colonel Whelen, including all 9 calibers. Some group well, some don't. Overall, I'd say they have comparable accuracy to the other Winchester levergun models if the shooter has the patience to develop accurate loads. I've killed multiple deer and antelope at more than 150 yards with 1895's and wouldn't even attempt those shots with a rifle that would only group 5"-7" at 100 yards.

@HaNsWiDjAjA 5 ай бұрын

@@thecinnabar8442 I see. Might the good colonel's problem be due to the quality of ammunition he had access to? I know that factory ammunition quality has improved enormously since his time, but I still find it hard to believe that it made an otherwise good rifle only capable of shooting 5-7 MOA.