19 Different Ebikes Tested Uphill ~ See Which Ebike Has the most power!
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Жыл бұрынLectric, Aventon, Wallke, Gforce, Magicycle, Engwe, Heybike, Rattan and more…See which ebikes have the most power out of 19 different Ebikes!
This video will show which E-bikes have the most power out of these 19 different ebikes and I hope it helps you make an informed decision on which ebike might be right for you if you were on the fence about power differences!
As you can see tho even the 500w e”E-bikes did well up the hill with just a little bit of pedaling.
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@josephvu5649 Жыл бұрын
2:05 Heybike 48v 500w..... Throttle only: ~50%, W/ pedal: Cleared 2:43 Lectric Lite 48v 300w..... Throttle only: ~60%, W/ pedal: Cleared 3:22 Engwe C20 Pro 36v 250w..... Throttle only: ~38%, W/ pedal: Cleared 5:10 Regular bike Lowest gear..... Throttle only: ~75%, W/ pedal: N/a 5:55 Cyrusher Commode 48v 750w..... Throttle only: ~88% Halfway, W/ pedal: Cleared 6:22 Magicycle Cruiser Pro: 52v 750w..... Throttle only: 100%, W/ pedal: Cleared 7:10 Magicycle Cruiser: 52v 750w..... Throttle only: ~88%, W/ pedal: Cleared 8:15 Electric Bike Company Model E (?)..... Throttle only: ~88%, W/ pedal: Cleared 8:42 Lectric XPremium 48v 500w (~50% battery)..... Throttle only: ~63%, W/ pedal: Cleared 9:26 Lectric XPremium 48v 500w (100% battery)..... Throttle only: ~75%, W/ pedal: Cleared 10:33 Lectric 2.0 Step-Thru 48v 500w..... Throttle only: ~63%, W/ pedal: Cleared 11:11 G-force T42 48v 750w..... Throttle only: ~75%, W/ pedal: Cleared 11:56 Heybike Explorer 48v 750w..... Throttle only: ~88%, W/ pedal: Cleared 12:19 Snapcycle R148v 750w..... Throttle only: ~88%, W/ pedal: Cleared 12:42 Engwe EP-2 Pro 48v 750w..... Throttle only: ~50%, W/ pedal: Cleared 13:27 Engwe Engine Pro 48v 750w*..... Throttle only: ~75%, W/ pedal: Cleared 14:44 Vitilan i7 48v 750w..... Throttle only: ~99%*, W/ pedal: Cleared 15:26 G-force ZM 48v 750w (~50% battery):..... Throttle only: ~88%, W/ pedal: Cleared 16:22 Walkee H6 48v 750w..... Throttle only: ~99%*, W/ pedal: Cleared 17:32 Rattan LM750 48v 750w..... Throttle only: ~99%*, W/ pedal: Cleared 18:10 Aventon Aventure 48v 750w..... Throttle only: ~99%*, W/ pedal: Cleared Note: Measured via the lawn striping (/8 @ 12.5% each line), starting past the wood chip trail. Results "W/ pedal: Cleared" vary with ease. Thanks for these tests dude.
@JeremiahMcintosh Жыл бұрын
Wow….Awesome thank you. The only problem I see with that is this was filmed on multiple different days so not sure if the striping is the same in every clip or not. It might be tho. Did you see my second hill test video?
@josephvu5649 Жыл бұрын
@@JeremiahMcintosh no I have not
@lodwill5116 Жыл бұрын
What you think about wildeway 32 Ah big battery?? Hope you text. I will subscribe. For the price. Folding bike. 1300 $$ I had buy it 😅
@yogiyoda 4 ай бұрын
Was the Engwe EP-2 Pro the 2022 upgraded version?
@yogiyoda 4 ай бұрын
@@JeremiahMcintosh - Was the Engwe EP-2 Pro the 2022 upgraded version?
@robertcurtis1112 Жыл бұрын
Finally an ebike video with simple facts straight to the point giving the brand, model, and specs.
@johnw65 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jeremiah for sharing your experiences of interesting ebikes you have found. There are hundreds of brands and models out there. Deciding which one best fits your needs and wallet can be a challenge and your reviews help a lot with our choices!
@corykayhoe1033 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to make this video, I have a lot of hill here in Pennsylvania where I live this will help me with choosing my next e-bike keep up the good work.
@bbollig9288 Жыл бұрын
This is great! Real-world comparison, 19 bikes, 19 minutes. This is what I really like to see!
@JeremiahMcintosh Жыл бұрын
Thank You.
@timharrison8166 Жыл бұрын
Thnbx
@pinladdess 11 ай бұрын
I’d like this comment, but it’s currently at 19 likes which fits the 19 bikes, 19 mins 😂
@JeremiahMcintosh 11 ай бұрын
Haha 20 now so you may as well make it 21 😂
@pinladdess 11 ай бұрын
@@JeremiahMcintosh Done 😆
@stoutdog56 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding review with a excellent cross section of eBikes! I appreciate you using bikes with throttles, something I consider an essential feature.
@jiriwesley1962 Жыл бұрын
Excellent review. This is how the performance of an e-bike should be tested. On the level, they all go well, but not uphill. I like to follow your reviews, they are the best here. Thank you.
@JeremiahMcintosh Жыл бұрын
Thank You. I agree but as you can see with a little pedaling they all did well and many of them will be just fine for a lot of people.
@MrXcruz91 Жыл бұрын
Love this video it was very informative keep up the great work thank you.
@josephwalters234 Жыл бұрын
Very helpful. I'm shopping around for the best bike for the hills around my area. Thank you so much!
@savemankind738 Жыл бұрын
Jeremiah you my friend think like a consumer , I was for a long time wishing someone would do this comparison , because on a flat ground we cannot really tell the difference between any ebike . hill climbing is the real world test . Thank you brother
@JeremiahMcintosh Жыл бұрын
That’s the mindset I try to have when making my videos and power is the hardest thing to show in a video. Glad you like it!
@buffalomind6838 Жыл бұрын
Motors on a bicycle are awesome. Once you experience an ebike you’re going to wonder why you hadn’t purchased one sooner. Your experiment showed the riders weight means a lot, and a little bit of extra motor wattage provides a noticeable amount improvement power as well as strength going up hills.
@Mia-kf2ie Жыл бұрын
cool
@Clearanceman2 Жыл бұрын
It's almost like a motorcycle. Yes of course it's awesome. Motorcycles are awesome. motorize 2 wheels and it kicks butt.
@massivebeatzz Жыл бұрын
also means skinnier legs and bigger bellies for those average e-bike riders vs athletic bicyclists , LOL!
@jdgoesham5381 Жыл бұрын
And it's not just the motor part that makes it extra sick. It's the electric part with automatic full torque on demand that's so sick about ebikes. My nephew was into making gas powered ones with his buddies in his area and this Sept he came up to visit and I let him take my 1400 Watt 52v rear hub ebike for a spin. And now he wants one badly.
@Clearanceman2 Жыл бұрын
@@jdgoesham5381 Drop the hammer on a 600cc sport bike with 120 plus HP and see what you think.
@MrDnovack Жыл бұрын
Great video. All of your videos are very informative. Thanks.
@apb5866 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the extensive testing. Greatly appreciated.
@briankurtyka308 Жыл бұрын
I like your more scientific approach to comparing these bikes. Other folks give their opinions which can be interesting, but you showed exactly what I was looking to see. Interesting that a more powerful bike MIGHT also be heavier which could impact its performance. Thank you.
@JeremiahMcintosh Жыл бұрын
Thank You and Your welcome. I like to physically show what I’m talking about in my videos. Glad you found it helpful!
@MatthewMoeykens Жыл бұрын
Man, I thought for sure the mid drive would have kicked butt....but no, Im very surprised. Thanks for the video! Great work!
@JeremiahMcintosh Жыл бұрын
Yeah it still did pretty well but a 750 or 1000w Mid-Drive motor would have been way better!
@KOrnhOliO1 Жыл бұрын
Most would!
@goldhunter9641 11 ай бұрын
The only difference I really have seen in more affordable e-bikes comparing a hub Drive motor to a mid-drive motor is the price tags and I like the Hub motor just as well and especially if writing asphalt roads and not really anything trail riding the Hub mount in my opinion is the way to go if a person doesn't want to spend a lot of money on a good bike
@stewartabel Жыл бұрын
This is a really good comparison in real world conditions. Kudos to you sir!
@JB-gz5yg Жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting this together! Great video!
@JeremiahMcintosh Жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@ridebecauseucan1944 Жыл бұрын
It takes more power to move a heavier bike. Bigger and bigger batteries are heavy, full suspension is heavy, wide tires and rims are heavy. These big fat tire bikes rarely see any off-road but their weight (70+lbs. and more) definitely makes riding them slowly or moving them around the garage way more difficult. I have a Ride1Up Core 5 and even with a 48v 10.4AH battery I can go 30-45 miles and it’s light enough to ride like a regular bike with no power on flats. My friend has a big fat tire bike and I’m amazed at how heavy it feels and forget about riding it without assist.
@MarcoACasco Жыл бұрын
They are not for weight lifting, they were meant to be ridden, and they sure do their job !!!!
@bindingcurve Жыл бұрын
Fun fat tires are cool (not).
@EuropaWill Жыл бұрын
Great video! I would love to see the Heybike Cityscape, Ranger, and Mars all make attempts to see where they all fare. It seems many of the fat tire bikes are not able to accelerate up to speed quickly enough on your short straight away in the grass due to all that additional rolling resistance. That's why I suspect the thinner tire Cityscape may punch above its weight in terms of its 350w motor since it'll have less rolling resistance. Looking forward to seeing that!
@JeremiahMcintosh Жыл бұрын
This cityscape is significantly less powerfull And would not do nowhere near as well as any of these bikes. The Heybike Mars and Ranger Or about the same as far as power.
@EuropaWill Жыл бұрын
@@JeremiahMcintosh I'd still love to see it!
@sarahblue5112 Жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I needed to know, thank you so much. 👍🏻
@JeremiahMcintosh Жыл бұрын
You are most welcome!
@jh338117 Жыл бұрын
Awsome review Jeremiah thanks for all your hard work....
@JeremiahMcintosh Жыл бұрын
Thank You
@raypabs5374 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding review! The motor torque or power of an electric bike is one of my most important factors, along with price when buying an ebike. This video helps a lot. I do wish that Ariel Rider would send to you their Kepler ebike for testing because I would like to see it go head to head against the Magic cycle.
@JeremiahMcintosh Жыл бұрын
I agree that would be a good test. Honestly I’ve been dying to review their grizzly lol.
@geemy9675 Жыл бұрын
hub vs mid drive matters even more than the torque for climbing, mid drives climb efficiently and without overheating but they're less affordable
@johnw65 Жыл бұрын
@@geemy9675 They also eat chains and sprockets, ie, more maintenance... My $849 T42 (with Jeremiah's discount) is state of the art, Hyd Disc Brakes, 80nm torque, bad to the bone for a starter bike!
@KOrnhOliO1 Жыл бұрын
@@geemy9675 EXACTLY! But, a Bafang BBS02 full kit will kick ANY non mid drive ebike under $3000 - $4000! And, you can buying them with a 14ah battery with name brand cells, for under $600 complete and shipped! (bigger batteries available, of course) IT WILL BLOW YOU MIND! And, destroy any of these ebikes he tested. It won't even be close.... :)
@geemy9675 Жыл бұрын
@@KOrnhOliO1 mid drive will win steep climbs but you re comparing diy bike which is not for everyone with stock. there are also many ways in which one bike can be "better" than another. price, value, maintenance, battery integration, range, ease of use, speed... mid drive has downsides too
@jeffmckinnon5842 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the work you put into this video. It is becoming painfully obvious to me that I might have to build my own, second E-Bike as none of these bikes really did much better than my Walmart E-bike would have done. Putting those drive systems on a 20-pound super-cycle would likely fly up that hill. I don't want to do a build, but I also do not want to spend three thousand dollars for a bike.
@JeremiahMcintosh Жыл бұрын
I can disagree with that to some extent but if you have the perfect bike already and was thinking about throwing a mid drive on it then yes you are correct that’s probably your best bet. If you don’t already have a bike that you’re happy with, Depending on the style of bike you’re looking for there are some great options out there for around $1000. for example the GeForce T 42 was recently $800 after the coupon code which is crazy cheap in my opinion. There’s a link in the description of my video to it but not sure if the coupon is still available or not.
@KOrnhOliO1 Жыл бұрын
Get a Bafang BBS02 full conversion kit. If you already have a bike you like - easily convert it to an ebike...for under $600! Aliexpress has them with a 14ah, name brand cells battery for about $575 shipped with everything, including the tools to do the conversion. Amazon has them for more money too. Anyone can do it! There are a bunch of step by step videos on KZfaq. That and any bike you choose, will destroy any of these bikes he tested....and it won't even be close! Seriously! Check it out...
@BigPapaCycles 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video you just helped me out!
@whiteduck3140 Жыл бұрын
Jeremiah, quick ride to the top in more ways than one. Congratulations
@sshultz8121 Жыл бұрын
Your review on the Vitilan i7 sold me on the features that were included. Plus, I got a great price with your discount along with the manufactures discount. But this video of different bikes was confirmation for me that I made the right choice. I wasn’t totally in need of the top of the line power, but that was an added bonus seeing the power the Vitilan i7 has, along with all the other features that I did want.
@lr8621 Жыл бұрын
I have the Vitalan v3 and it seems powerful enough.amazing ride.
@popeye7815 Жыл бұрын
I have a V3 no issues with going up 30 Degree hills here in Pa...Great Bike! Their tech support is excellent 👍
@dennispruitt671 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate you making these videos. It's very time consuming I'm sure, and I hope you're getting compensated for your time however that works. Without these videos it's pretty much a shot in the dark when picking out an ebike. Thanks again, keep up the good work. - Dennis
@JeremiahMcintosh Жыл бұрын
Thank You Dennis that’s why I love making these videos. The only way I get compensated is if someone uses the link in the description of my videos to purchase a bike then we will receive a small commission.
@elsanavarrette3853 7 ай бұрын
Please give pricesif you can
@JeremiahMcintosh 7 ай бұрын
There are links in the description where you can see all the current prices of each model in this video.
@glowingmonkey9033 9 ай бұрын
What an effort doing the review for all these bike!!! You rock man!
@michigancarols.6385 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video, new sub!
@kenreiner259 Жыл бұрын
Wish you would have tested the Lectric XP as well. Would have been nice to see how it did against the other two Lectrics you tested.
@JeremiahMcintosh Жыл бұрын
It’s pretty much the same power as the 2.0 that’s why I didn’t include it but maybe I’ll include it in the next one.
@bobsibert1968 8 ай бұрын
Lectrics have crap for batteries
@wts0000 15 күн бұрын
Appreciate your effeort and time used in making this informative video👍🏽
@Sams_Uncle Жыл бұрын
Marvelous! Thank you for sharing your hard work!
@JeremiahMcintosh Жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@thedanyesful Жыл бұрын
Great video! I liked the choice of the grass hill as I think that really gives a good worst-case scenario. I thought the comparison with the normal bicycle was really great too. I feel like a lot of these ebikes are going to suffer from lack of parts availability as they age. I could be wrong but I didn't see any that seemed to have the standard 26" rims used for decades in the most common bikes such as low-end mountain bikes and touring bikes. Even the ones you showed with the 20" rims (same diameter as BMX) seem to have a wider tire so I wonder whether the rims are standard at all. Also some of those e-bikes just look massive in terms of weight. Imagine having to carry one of those up the stairs/overpass to get to the other side of the train station to catch your train!
@biffmalibu3733 Жыл бұрын
I think they are becoming so common and popular like the Shimano 7 speeds that available parts shouldn't be an issue. Chinese manufacturers will produce replacement products as long as the demand is there.
@carlwellman3623 Жыл бұрын
Nice video and comparisons! I changed out my XP 2.0 sprocket to a 11-34t and that made a big difference on the high speed and low speed for hill climbing, $31 from Amazon and bike shop charged $15 labor, well worth it!
@patc1309 Жыл бұрын
What's an 11-34t mean? I'm new to this
@JeremiahMcintosh Жыл бұрын
I agree it’s definitely worth the upgrade.
@JeremiahMcintosh Жыл бұрын
It’s the freewheel that goes on the back hub. I actually made a video about this on my old Lectric bike make sure you check it out.
@lude3645 Жыл бұрын
@@JeremiahMcintosh Do you still have that bike Jeremiah? Also do you think that would have made that hill with tha upgrade?
@JeremiahMcintosh Жыл бұрын
Yes I still have the original lectric bike and no it would’ve not made it up the hill without pedaling. The freewheels not gonna make a difference on motor power but it will make a difference on how easy it is to help pedal. It would’ve went up just as easy as the 2.0 pedaling
@4kbuffalowalkride722 Жыл бұрын
I love it man! Great place to test in case you need a soft landing! Keep up the great job and thanks!
@JeremiahMcintosh Жыл бұрын
Thank You. I should have part two out soon!
@user--PM Жыл бұрын
nice comparison video of the bikes that you have. thanks for sharing this.
@ThisViddy Жыл бұрын
I currently own two eBikes a Biktrix Juggernaut HD with a 1000watt mid-drive. I like this one for the exercise and I have yet to see a hill it won't handle. My other one is a Juiced RipRacer with a 750 rear hub drive, not really for exercise but great for running around town in a hurry.
@seniorsouthwick976 Жыл бұрын
Given all the variables and the fact that you chose a grassy hill, I can’t see the value of this comparison. All bikes should have been charged fully and unused prior to test. A paved incline would have helped level the traction disparities also. Maybe having your son time a fixed distance in the test climb/run would bring additional value. And then, as another poster mentioned, a final chart with the results by bike design, classification & weight. For those who are considering a folding bike for transport, know that some models have gotten to the point where the weight and bulk when folded are pretty difficult to lift and load into an SUV. I bought the Lectric XP Premium, which has 2 batteries and a claimed range of 100 miles, and as a retiree at 5-11 and 225, I find it almost impossible to lift and load alone when it is folded. Although the 80 lb. weight may seem manageable to many, when it is folded, it just becomes a very big bulky contraption with no convenient lift points when lifting alone. Looking back, maybe should have just bought a lighter weight full size to have the increased stability, comfort, and efficiencies that come with larger wheel diameters and traditional frame designs. Most of these fold-ups are using very thick heavy metal construction to regain the rigidity lost in a fold-up design. And lastly, most of the popular KZfaq reviews are compromised by kick-backs so after narrowing down your preference, find a dealer or someone who owns the model and check it out in person. Kind of embarrassing to have a fold-up that needs to be trailered or racked.
@JeremiahMcintosh Жыл бұрын
All the batteries were fully charged except for the Magicycle which I mentioned but didn’t matter because it had the most power anyway. And you make some good points that’s why I mentioned in the beginning of the video not to base your decision fully off this video alone and that there are many other factors you should consider before buying an electric bike. Thanks for your input that was one thing I was going to mention in my future video I talked about. Cheers.
@MrBothandNether Жыл бұрын
I remove the batteries before I lift something like that. I am getting the dualbattery Wallke and pulling the batteries shaves almost 20Lbs off of the lift weight
@GlenB1963 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Great info. I know more what to look for now.
@SKYGUY1 10 ай бұрын
Thank you sir. While mostly 'anecdotal', due to the full vss partial charge condition, the test demos seemed to reveal what to expect from each bike. Thumb up entered!
@myadventureoutdoors Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the effort you put into this video. A lot! What it tells me that most 500W - 750W e-bikes are virtually the same. Not a lot of difference. Yes, there are style differences, etc but when it boils down to getting you over that hill throttle only, they all perform mostly identical. I have the original Lectric 1.0. Been a fantastic worry free bike. I'm kinda looking for my next bike. However, your video has just told me all these new bikes are not really going to outperform what I have to any great degree. Personally, I would be looking for a substantial improvement. You have helped me now to look in a new direction whatever that may be. I'm guessing the torque of all these motors are similar. You helped educate me further. Thanks very much.
@JeremiahMcintosh Жыл бұрын
Make sure you check out my newest Hill test video with 26 bikes and you may think differently. Let me know what you think if you watch it.
@mrd6093 3 ай бұрын
I THINK PERSONALLY THESE BIKES LIKE THE BAKCOU SCOUT THOSE BACKCOUNTRY BIKES ARE PROBABLY WORTH LOOKING INTO . I LIKE THE SCOUT PERSONALLY.
@nateethington76 Жыл бұрын
Good video. Man, I was really considering the Engwe EP-2 because the price with an additional battery is really good. $1100 with 2 13ah batteries is just a really good deal. But I went with the Lectric bike since I live in Phoenix and can go down and test ride all of them. It's nice knowing it isn't using so much electricity since while camping it will be draining my solar setup and has roughly the same amount of power as the Engwe. I went with he xp 3 cause it was a better deal, but man was the light fun to ride. Carried me around no problem just not having any gears to worry about just made it seem so much fun to ride. I would have bought it, but once you factor in buying the stuff it doesn't come with, it's not cheaper than the bigger bikes.
@oz41R Жыл бұрын
Great editing! Easy to follow even with 19 bikes!
@fredferrara4964 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the quick response. Love the Kommoda also, it was my 1st choice after I watched your review. Then I saw the Ovia with the larger battery & higher cranks.. I'll keep looking for your review. Best regards; Fred
@Jingles9071 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Time stamps for each bike would’ve been great 😅
@DesuVR Жыл бұрын
Your testing really shows that not all motors are made equal. I was especially impressed with the Vitalin with how much that bike costs. The Lectrics are also very well made motors and their 500W motors seem to be almost as good as some 750W bikes. The XP 2.0 (500W) can really rip after some tweaks to the settings! I'm ~140lbs, I thought I'd eventually want more power after getting my XP 2.0 but it's actually plenty of power for me! =)
@JeremiahMcintosh Жыл бұрын
I agree it has plenty of power for a 500 watt bike and outperforms most 500 W bikes. The electrics are you going to be excellent for most people and most people will not be going up hills like this LOL. The higher wattage bikes are nice though for maintaining a faster speed when traveling and you hit a hill the lectric will do the hill just at a slower pace.
@EBikeBuilder_ Жыл бұрын
another factor is the controller amperage may vary across bikes, leading to different performance with similar if not identical motors. It's the phase amps that influence hub motor torque for a test like this. Some manufacturers give the 750W motor a 25amp controller and they will peak at 1300 watts, and then it's a completely different beast. The wheel size will have a big impact as well, those 26" wheels are at a disadvantage climbing.
@colinriches1519 Жыл бұрын
The wattage of the motor isn't a good indicator of the power of the system. Multiply your voltage by how many amps the controller pulls to find the wattage going through the motor. At best, brushless hub motors work at about 90% efficiency. To find your power, multiply volts by amps and then the answer multiply by 0.9 to accommodate efficiency losses. That will tell you the real power of the bike.
@JeremiahMcintosh Жыл бұрын
That’s not always true because even if some bikes have a larger controller the bikes can be programmed from the manufacture at a lower amp output. I have seen this on a few different bikes where adjusting that amperage in the settings doesn’t make a difference because they have it set to a specific output and that’s why I like doing these tests.
@johnw65 Жыл бұрын
@@JeremiahMcintosh Do you think it's possible that manufacturers turn down the settings in order to comply with local laws in various countries? I easily found the info to 'tweak' the T42 you helped me get. And pedaling like crazy, I can tackle some pretty significant hills at 20mph, with the cruise taking over on the downhill sides, I often have to brake a little for speed limits...
@eladnudd1895 Жыл бұрын
This is how it's should be done, very informative. thank you .
@sckad3526 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the reviews
@RideOp74 Жыл бұрын
I figured the EP2 Pro wouldn't fare too well because I saw your full review, but it takes me up the more sloping hills around my house just fine, and I'm well over 200 lbs. Great review, really enjoyed the comparison!
@JeremiahMcintosh Жыл бұрын
It’s not bad but it’s more comparable to my 500w bikes.
@4saken404 Жыл бұрын
That thing was so underpowered it was noticeable even before it hit the slope. Took off from a stop very very slowly.
@RomanRoman-xi3dv Жыл бұрын
@@JeremiahMcintosh pleasw try to test Ariel rider bikes
@RomanRoman-xi3dv Жыл бұрын
@@JeremiahMcintosh hi, also if you could test dual motor fat bikes at same hill to see how they climb
@JeremiahMcintosh Жыл бұрын
Yes I would love to but don’t currently have any dual motor bikes possibly in the future tho!
@jstar1000 Жыл бұрын
They all seem comparable based on motor watts and weight. I built a mid drive ebike with a kit and put it on a 26inch mt bike with disc brakes and its a freaking beast. It would climb that hill like a goat with no pedaling. I have a heybike with 500 watt motor and a BPM Imports 750 watt, both rear hub motors and they are both cool bikes but the mid drive kicks butt on both of them. The 750 wat rear hub kicks butt on the 500 watt bike as expected. You get what you pay for and I have to add getting a more expensive bike is probably worth it. They skimp on important things like the quality of the battery and its components, look at battery ebike fire videos on youtube then decide if you want that cheap ass ebike. I'll pass.
@bindingcurve Жыл бұрын
Mid drive e-bike wits are a wiring mess. 90% of people do not want to ride a science experiment. Yes I know there are "good" but the cost of a mid drive kit added to a "good" bike, you may as well buy new instead of tinkering.
@jstar1000 Жыл бұрын
@@bindingcurve I tucked mine nicely but your not entirely wrong but a comparable new ebike can cost twice as much or more if you already have a bike you love then the kits are great plus you can move everything to a different bike if you want. To each there own.
@bindingcurve Жыл бұрын
@@jstar1000Most of the home build bikes are based sub $500 bikes with $1500 kits on them. But no bike manufactured is going to do that. SO when you say "comparable" your not being truthful. If they are going to build a Mountain E-bike, it will be based on a $2500 full suspension bike. Well, then get a Luna X2 for $4200. If they are going to build a commuter a Ride one up Prodigy for $2300. "cheep" hub drives, the Core 5. Really cheep, the Hypers from Walmart. And I get it, cheep bikes can do a lot of what a "expensive" bike can do, My Axum was $230, and rides a lot like my $1000 Cannondale Trail. But they are NOT the same bike, not even close. Now if someone would provide good frames, I may be interested in build my own, but I think you will find there is not much of a savings.
@jstar1000 Жыл бұрын
@@bindingcurve I put a $1000 750 watt bafang kit on my Gary Fischer disc brakes bike and it's pretty awesome. I can't buy anything prebuilt for $1000 and get a middrive 750 watt set up like mine.
@bindingcurve Жыл бұрын
@@jstar1000 How much was the bike when it was NEW in 2022 dollars? Again, your fooling yourself into thinking its a $1000 bike
@stephenreese5921 11 ай бұрын
Always looking for a good comparison of Ebikes. Thanks, Jeremiah!
@JeremiahMcintosh 11 ай бұрын
Thank you! Make sure you check out my second hill test video because it’s a little bit different!
@ericechipman1183 Жыл бұрын
This was a very good video !!!thank you. It is pretty awesome to see which bikes climb better than others on such a steep hill.
@JeremiahMcintosh Жыл бұрын
Thank You
@ericechipman1183 Жыл бұрын
@@JeremiahMcintosh do you not have the Tesco 1000 watt bike anymore? I would have liked to seen it climb this hill
@kenwatts3848 Ай бұрын
Thank you for doing this!! Excellent work.
@JeremiahMcintosh Ай бұрын
Thank you, you’re welcome.
@whitenas Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for all your work. This is exactly what I was looking for. Changed my mind again lol
@JeremiahMcintosh Жыл бұрын
Watch a few more of my videos and you’ll probably change it three more times lol 😂
@davidbaker4585 Жыл бұрын
Best review I've yet seen!!
@donsturgiss7833 Жыл бұрын
Good test! Best I have seen demo'g and comparing multiple bikes for hill climb power.
@merrylloupendon5449 Жыл бұрын
Wow this is must to watch! Thanks for video
@Tweetogreggieb59 8 ай бұрын
Two thumbs up 👍👍A great video for reviewing multiple e bike brands. Content worthy of your time and consideration.✌😎
@mantisthechosen Жыл бұрын
Loved this video, trying to decide on an ebike and i just moved to a house on the hill LOL but its at a 80 degree angle and this helped alot
@jakereal3604 Жыл бұрын
I have a 500w 36v Ebike and it seems to pull Me along fine! I even went to a park with steep trails.YES I had to pedal and used max assist 5 but it got me up everything I needed to go up! But I’m 140lbs so guessing that helps a lot lol
@mikepi660 Ай бұрын
Thanks for your time and video,,, loved it,,
@dbuilder6 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video!
@pintorodolfo2375 Жыл бұрын
I have also bought a similar electric bike, the EUY NXB. My son also likes it very much. He always rides it out to play. Electric bikes really bring us a lot of conveniences.
@jimmytaaffe Жыл бұрын
love these real world reviews!
@JeremiahMcintosh Жыл бұрын
Thank You
@bradleysuarez3747 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review ❤
@JeremiahMcintosh 11 ай бұрын
Your Welcome!
@Nikki-ks6wi Жыл бұрын
You saved me so much time and money thank you!
@Susan-ic5ri 9 ай бұрын
Fabulous article and links!
@TWiumph Жыл бұрын
Really helpful for someone like myself that lives in a very hilly area, north Georgia mountains. (Yes we have mountains in Georgia!)
@TheGrateful55 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, its nice to see the comparisons on biles when battery is 50% and 100% because one you leave home, the battery is no longer 100%. Appreiate all the work to help us!
@ThrivingCountry 7 ай бұрын
This was very helpful to me. As a big guy at around 270 lbs., this video told me I better stick with my side by side for dear hunting in TN. Even at your weight it couldn’t pull the hills without help.
@martymccabe332 Жыл бұрын
Very helpful to me. Thanks!
@sumtingwong5451 9 ай бұрын
Best ever ebiks comparison. I got it. Thank you for your efforts.
@Michaelaz62 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this.
@talldude5841 Жыл бұрын
Love all your reviews Jeremiah. Spot on. Keep up the great work, and I am loving my new XP 2.0. It is better than my near 3 year old XP. Does a newer battery pack more punch? Seems so.
@JeremiahMcintosh Жыл бұрын
It could depending how much degradation your old battery has.
@MongoGamer Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this vid, I'm a large 300lb guy planning on doing some nomadic adventures and I want to make an e bike camper. So with all that weight, I need load capacity and torque so pretty much power. Thank you
@ronniearnold10 Жыл бұрын
Pretty cool video! Thanks for these, you rock.
@JeremiahMcintosh Жыл бұрын
Thank You Ronnie!
@BirdMom023 19 күн бұрын
I have the Electric 2.0 ST, and a big uphill climb to a stop sign near my home. Thanks so much for showing a new rider this 'how-to.'
@GT4JB 9 ай бұрын
awesome educ video. would love to see a all terrain e baike video. Especially now that mid drive is the hot new thing. Thx for great video
@scottallen3465 8 ай бұрын
Great impartial reviews.
@diamonddbw Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Looks like you had a good workout.
@chrisneuhaus7188 4 ай бұрын
It was helpful to see how well each bike did in this type scenario. We'll be using our new ebikes to casually tour while we are traveling the country in our RV. We are adventure riders by any means, but occasionally there can be a steep grade on an otherwise easy trail that will require plenty of power to make the grade. Thanks for sharing.
@ReviewsandTech 8 ай бұрын
Wow, nice Ebikes and a great comparison in the real world, although I am glad my 400 watt 14" can make it up hill somewhat as I am getting ready to drop that review soon. Thanks for your hard work man.
@Onlybhstrpes Жыл бұрын
You're the best, J!! 👊🏽🇺🇸
@JeremiahMcintosh Жыл бұрын
Lol thanks 👊🏼
@sharizeck9318 Жыл бұрын
Very helpful video. Thanks!
@gr5603 Жыл бұрын
The motor on the Rattan 750 is extremely powerful. It takes me up very steep hills carrying heavy0 groceries with ease.
@bertkelly7650 Жыл бұрын
That 250 watt did as good as the 300 and 500 watt lectrics on just throttle. Gives my Ancheer 350 watt bike some hope. Thanks so much for the review!
@RideOp74 Жыл бұрын
If you like the bike you have and it works for you that's all that matters.
@cparker7431 Жыл бұрын
This was a fantastic video!!! I saw the baskets on Amazon for sale too for the Rattan.
@JeremiahMcintosh Жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@lindsaydempsey5683 10 күн бұрын
Very helpful, thank you
@stevelouie1907 Жыл бұрын
Great and fair reviews of all these electric bikes. I'm undecided between Aniioki A7 Pro and Wallke H6. Likely H6 has more power and bigger/larger but I like the A7 Pro style. What's opinion? Thanks
@MajimaEnterprises 9 ай бұрын
I think with the Engine Pro, you want to be using PAS only, not using the throttle at the same time. I have an EP-2 Pro and there's definitely no power limiter when using PAS only because it flies up hills with me pedaling on level 5 PAS. Can get up to around 24-25mph up the hill leading to my house (probably around a 13% grade). I do have to put in a bit of work to maintain that speed, but I don't mind. It's a good workout 😄
@jeffgustafson579 Жыл бұрын
Nice detailed video!
@yesnik7212 9 ай бұрын
Great video! What app are you using on your phone?
@burtba 9 ай бұрын
Great review dude
@JeremiahMcintosh 9 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@JohnFleshman Жыл бұрын
I have the Aventure and I am very pleased with your testing.
@JeremiahMcintosh Жыл бұрын
Thanks John!
@sniperlee3065 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing the video. I have the aventon sinch and aventure and i climb hills all the time for fun. They both climb very well.
@JeremiahMcintosh Жыл бұрын
I agree as you can see even the 500w ebikes go up the hill way easier than a non- motorized bicycle. It really comes down to how much you want to work.
@Altema22 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, and thanks for all your hard work! The same starting point and similar line was good, and think the only thing I'd add is to place a measuring reel on the grass so you could document how many feet the bike went. I like that the test was on grass, as that's what most hills I climb are made of. The Lectric XPremium was disappointing, but people often don't realize that the torque of a mid drive is measured at the unit output shaft. What you actually get at the rear wheel is less. What percent grade is that hill, by the way?
@JeremiahMcintosh Жыл бұрын
Thank you I haven’t really measured the hill yet I might include that in my next hill test video.
@user-rv3vk4ov9q Жыл бұрын
Very well put video
@albertomartinez1295 10 ай бұрын
Excelent video ; the only one I I've seen about up hill test, wich is very important to me because of my home city, in Caracas Venezuela, has a lot of uphil streets.
@johnpayment2988 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your demo! I,ve been looking for an ebike that can get me up the hills with peddle assist.
@JeremiahMcintosh Жыл бұрын
As you can see, most of them will get you up even steep ones like this if you help pedal a little bit.
@underdogoutdoors Жыл бұрын
This is a great video, really helps when deciding to purchase an ebike for hunting in areas with hills, I initially thought the Lectric premium with the 500w mid-drive would beat them all!
@pacodogtule Жыл бұрын
The Lectric mid drive was not much better climbing than the rear hub motor version. Very disappointing. I think I will put a small 350w hub motor on the front of my 500w rear hub 20 incher. Reliable, powerful and AWD for sand.
@underdogoutdoors Жыл бұрын
@@pacodogtule I agree, why pay more for the Lectric premium?
@darrellruehter9877 Жыл бұрын
I bought the Heybike Explorer and am very satisfied . I’m currently hunting on conservation ground and can not use my atv . My knees are shot so it was do this or quit hunting . My son am I dropped 4 deer this year and the Explorer hauled out three of them . (All the same day ) and this was down on a gully and a little over a mile from the trucks . We figured it saved us about 8 miles of walking/ dragging deer . I was very happy . I put a Kwik hitch on my rack and the ball on my deer cart and it hauled them up the hill ( had to walk it with throttle ) but there was zero manual pushing and from the top I could ride without peddling at all . Great bike with a 750 watt motor and had had it up to around 18 mph and has about a 55 mile range using motor only and Over 70 using peddle assist. Oh and I’m 6’5” and 250 lbs .
@darrellruehter9877 Жыл бұрын
That should have said 28 mph .
@underdogoutdoors Жыл бұрын
@@darrellruehter9877 I love hearing this, 750 watt is all you need most of the time! Just in time as we get older! lol.
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