1917 Eddystone First Shots

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1917 Eddystone First Shots
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@Donald_R_DeCicco 4 жыл бұрын

I really like the look of the full length wooden stocks. Theyre badass, reminds me of what grandfather used

@AustinTheTerrible 4 жыл бұрын

Pinnacle of bolt action rifle design.

@guaporeturns9472 Жыл бұрын

I won’t disagree.. although the K-31 and MAS-36 are pretty good

@MilsurpMikeChannel 4 жыл бұрын

The M1917 is the best military bolt action IMHO. Before WWI, Britain looked to replace SMLE and .303 cartridge... they came up with the P13 firing a .276 round. The rifle kind of combined the best aspects of the Mauser and Enfield. The war started, and Britain was already maxed out making SMLEs, so they rechambered and rebarrelled the P13 to fire the .303 round, this was the P14 and the intent was to contract Remington (along with affiliate Eddystone) and Winchester to build it. The Brits were never really satisified with what was being sent over. When the US entered the war, Springfield had the monopoly on 1903 rifles and was already maxed out. Since there were lines ready for the P14, they rechambered and rebarrelled it for .30-06 and it became the Model 1917.

@fruitfarmfords8243 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you, saved me some typing. My favorite milsurp bolt action.

@silverbug97 4 жыл бұрын

I don't know if it's the best military bolt action of all time (the K31, MAS-36, No. 4 MK1, Swedish M38, Madsen M47, and Kar98k all give it a run for its money) but it is most certainly the best military bolt action of WWI. It's also arguably superior to the M1903 and thus the best bolt action the U.S. ever adopted in large numbers.

@MilsurpMikeChannel 4 жыл бұрын

You said it was superior to the 1903, which is a Mauser. The K31 was good, but never tested in battle. With the exception of the Madsen, I own and shot the rest (and I have shot a friend's Madsen). I would take the 1917 over all of them.

@silverbug97 4 жыл бұрын

@@MilsurpMikeChannel Fair point on the K31. Not all Mausers were created equally though. I consider the Swedish Mausers to be superior to the M1903 and Kar98k because they're cock-on-closing and I consider 6.5 Swede to better than both .30-06 and 8mm. The M1903 is arguably inferior to the Kar98k because of the changes to Mauser's original design the U.S. made to try and skirt patent infringement. The unnecessary and needlessly complex magazine cutoff/bolt release and the less sturdy two piece firing pin are my two biggest personal criticisms against it. Imo, the M1917 is the best simply because I see it as the perfect synthesis between an Enfield and a Mauser. I genuinely prefer Enfields and small ring Mausers over large ring mausers though so I'm completely biased and I could see someone arguing in favor or the Kar98k or M1903 or whatever being better.

@silverbug97 4 жыл бұрын

@@MilsurpMikeChannel If they had made a lighter carbine version of the M1917 and chambered it in a 6mm caliber (or perhaps even the original .276). I'd say there would be no question of its superiority compared to anything else.

@PARR53 2 жыл бұрын

I have a Remington built 1917 that was from the CMP gun. I I absolutely love it.

@marcclement7396 Жыл бұрын

I'm in the same boat as you. I think I have some years on you, I'm 50. But as a gun collector as I get older I'm gravitating for to the WW1, WW2, firearms. I love my EDDYSTONE. So heavy. Imagine lugging that rifle around 24/7.

@tobiassauer7883 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for making this video. I inherited my grandfathers 1917 he carried in WWII and it was Great to learn more about it

@marcclement7396 Жыл бұрын

You are so fortunate to have your grandfather's 1917. What an heirloom. I trust you continue shooting it and it isn't just a wall hanger. I'm jeaulous.

@guaporeturns9472 Жыл бұрын

Where was he that he carried a 1917 in WWII?

@cmbn.y.7681 4 жыл бұрын

Cool rifle man, congrats! I really try to live by "to each, their own"....BUT I really hate when people only like modern, tactical firearms. All guns are beautiful! My collection is a perfect mix of wood and polymer and I love them all equally ;)

@guaporeturns9472 Жыл бұрын

You hate what other people like? You need to reassess your values

@hoffmiermp 11 ай бұрын

@@guaporeturns9472 You misunderstood his comment imo. He doesn't hate to hate but hates that those types of old school war horse tend to get overlooked for the latest and greatest polymer firearm/s.

@chexquest87 4 жыл бұрын

I just bought a 1916 P14 Enfield on gunbroker. Complete with volley sights- nice addition to my British rifle collection 🤗

@jennymurphy5220 2 жыл бұрын

I've loved my Eddystone my whole life. First rifle I ever shot and has dropped more than it's share of deer, elk and even a bear. It was sportorized at some point long before my dad bought it. The old marble sights have never let me down. Very accurate rifle. There used to be people cooking off some hot rounds because of how thick the chamber is. I kind of remember some were bored out to larger calibers. 30-06 is a great round and that rifle soaks it right up.

@craigpennington1251 Жыл бұрын

1917 Eddystone was the best out of all the manufacturers. I've had them all & wished I had them all back. That Eddystone was a tack driver. Absolutely NO scope needed at 700 yards with M1 Ball ammo. The Eddystone fit & finish are tops. A very fine rifle.

@francissullivan6400 4 жыл бұрын

Great video..p.s I beleive it is a 6 round magazine ..the .303 Brit was 5 because of the rimmed case

@DCCHANNELGUNS 4 жыл бұрын

Great Video!!! Shout-out to NC!!!

@owenwolfco.8344 4 жыл бұрын

Only correction I could point out: The US rifle was the Springfield 1903, but not the 1903A3. The A3 was produced in the 1940s

@akajonesy4388 3 жыл бұрын

The Enfield american 1917 was also referred as the American rifle of WW1 while the 1903 was the American rifle of WW2

@gregoryfowler3161 4 жыл бұрын

So freakin awesome. Love it

@scdhl3305 4 жыл бұрын

Love it, I always take these out of my history, just because, but I love watching the videos.

@lkbaction-recreationalcomp3510 4 жыл бұрын

I absolutely love the history and more so the skill set of the shooters. Dream, rifle Sprinfield 30-06 just not sure wat year. Loves so nice and certainly made to last. Whoo Hoooo Go the Tac Driver!

@4g63attack 4 жыл бұрын

Great find... sad that most of these old rifles has been sporterized and butchered and by doing so getting harder and harder to find.... I recently pick up a 03 Springfield

@kb1422 3 жыл бұрын

Remington, Winchester and Eddystone (Remington subsidiary @Baldwin locomotive works in PA) were producing them for the British as the P14 Enfield (Rifle No. 3). Because they were already tooled up and running and because there were problems getting ‘03 Springfield production up at the U.S. Arsenals, when the U.S. entered WWI, it was decided to just produce P14 Enfields in .30-06 with a few minor changes and call them 1917’s. Fine rifles. Simpler to produce than the ‘03 (at least at the time). U.S. soldiers were said to prefer the Springfield because it was a few inches shorter and nearly a pound lighter, that 6th round would be nice though. Nice video, Love those old guns... Oh, and the ‘03A3 was a later WWII model of the Springfield, not contemporary the P17 😉

@nicholassalchert8583 2 жыл бұрын

I just picked one up and I’m a lover of all things history especially guns, and holy fuck I fell in love with it immediately, I got an original Eddystone m1917 from the war and it’s an amazing rifle

@buzsalmon 4 жыл бұрын

Very nice rifle. Enjoy!

@dhooter 9 ай бұрын

Imagine standing in a trench firing that ass kicking 06 all day. That recoil had to be punishing.

@BigPeter1313 Жыл бұрын

That particular rifle has the fabric sling. The originals have the leather sling as far as I know.

@majorlee76251 4 жыл бұрын

03a3 is ww2 developed by Remington.

@curtkramer7529 4 жыл бұрын

I would really like to see you work on accuracy at longer range on your great channel!

@captaintomst 3 жыл бұрын

The model 1917, also known as the "American Enfield", went to war for the U.S. because American factories were producing it when we were still years away from joining the fight in Europe. Our factories were producing it in the British 303 cartridge for the British. When it became evident that we were going to enter the war they found that it was easier and quicker to convert it to 30 ought 6 than it was to build or convert whole factories for the Springfield 1903. More model 1917 were used in World War 1 by American troops than the Springfield 1903 by a factor of almost two to one.

@chrisalexander5900 2 жыл бұрын

Mr. Eddy stone was the Vice President of Remington arms. When the first word war began the U.S Government announced to all arms companies to build weapons of the sort. Remington arms was given the contact for the rifle. The demands for production was found too be more than Remington could handle So Mr. Remington gave the patient rights to his executive director Mr. Eddystone and the financial abilities to build another factory and Mr. Remington allowed Mr. Eddy stone to put his name on the rifle. So the contact was more than filled. And this is why we now have the 1917 Eddystone 30 06 rifle. I have one as well. It still has the factory die. I kept the rifle In it’s original condition too. When my vision was in good shape I would hit targets up to 800 yards. The sights go to 1250 yards. (using the 178gr. Silver tip). CWA

@jongirolami4978 3 ай бұрын

Never was a Mr. Eddy Stone associated with the M1917. Eddystone is a city in South Philadelphia where Remington converted a Baldwin Locomotive factory to build rifles.

@perrywatson8505 2 жыл бұрын

I cut my teeth loading for a Eddystone p17@ about 19 years old and I sure learned a lot I like to never found a load that would shoot a 1-inch Group at 100 but it was with the original 24-inch Barrel, I think 24in very nice rifle I had a bishops stock on it that didn't look much better than what it came with

@michaelj.trunzo211 2 жыл бұрын

Im looking for one to add to my collection. One correction to your comments. The 1903a3 was not around in WW 1. It was manufactured during the beginning of WW2 . I have a 1903a3 Manufactured by Remington .

@PleksiHeddamo 4 жыл бұрын

Model 1917 NOT P 17

@usmcchet 9 ай бұрын

You kind of contradicted yourself correctly. The 1917 was a stopgap rifle because US manufacturing couldn't ramp up fast enough for the 1903. The P13 was already in ramped up production and it was an easy to re-chamber it to 30:06. It is rumored that the 1917 was the rifle Sgt. York used when he earned his MO not the 1903

@classicgunstoday1972 4 жыл бұрын

Very nice rifle. Why does the camera shake when you work the bolt? Is it attached to your body? Or is your cameraman that nervous? ;) I’ve been debating between getting this or the M1903 Springfield. The weight and spring on the bolt take some getting used to on the Enfield.

@twistsnakeanklesvids261 4 жыл бұрын

I think it's ejecting the casing right into the camera lens. XD You hear a little 'dink!' when it hits.

@craigpennington1251 Жыл бұрын

P.S. you do not have to rachet that bolt hard which you're doing. Make sure that it is lubed properly and all will be smooth & easy. Use the sling for a better sight steady for your shots.

@TheAlbertaChannel 10 ай бұрын

I just ran a milsurp 2 gun match with this very rifle and with practice, you can run that bolt super fast.

@mitchell3042 Жыл бұрын

cant beat old military rifles!

@jagvillain2003 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video. You should shoot further away from the camera and let us see the target.

@marckcarbonelloifveteran410 3 жыл бұрын

The P-14 was a 303 Brit.

@ccsmith2937 4 жыл бұрын

👍🙏

@roycesjourney37 4 жыл бұрын

Envy....green with envy.....

@thewolfhunter 2 жыл бұрын

I have a non import marked M1917 Eddystone. Manufactured in Nov.1918, Barrel is R-12-17 marked.. You can look up your guns date of manufacture at. U.S. military dates of manufacture-OldGuns.

@zt8401 4 жыл бұрын

please review BCA's 7.62x39 pistol uppers!

@m2gjam139 4 жыл бұрын

About how much are they going for

@Chris-yy5pj 4 жыл бұрын

One of my dream guns is a mas in 308

@valletasmith3218 3 жыл бұрын

Only problem with them is no windage adjustment without purchasing special rear sight.

@PDIcomics 4 жыл бұрын

I inherited one I can’t pull the bolt back at all without great difficulty just far enough to hear a click when trigger pulled. Do I need to oil it or something?

@michaelbell1554 3 жыл бұрын

Take it apart and clean it

@PDIcomics 3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelbell1554 Why don’t you do it for me, then?!

@michaelbell1554 3 жыл бұрын

@@PDIcomics send it to me and I will, no garuntee you'll get it back though

@maliceharding4668 4 жыл бұрын

2 corrects the p14/p17 is a mauser action also the spring 1903 was the standard issue rifle of the US military at the time the only reason the p17 was used was because we need guns for the war also most US troops didn't like the gun

@marckcarbonelloifveteran410 3 жыл бұрын

There were manufactured by Eddystone/Remington and Winchester.

@alexvogel6123 3 жыл бұрын

And Smith Corona.

@jerryzimmer8375 6 ай бұрын

I have a 4 Grove sporterized edystone. There are 2 Grove ones, my 4grove will blow up pop cans filled with water. at 225 yards, with a 4x scope

@chexquest87 4 жыл бұрын

BTW 704 check out C&Resenal’s KZfaq channel if you want excellent history on these rifles!

@tommoyong3455 2 жыл бұрын

Sir what s d bore size of this rifle?

@tyronesheppard6258 2 жыл бұрын

What is the EDDYSTONE 1917 rifle worth today

@josecanisales3491 3 жыл бұрын

How much did you pay for it?

@thewolfhunter 2 жыл бұрын

The American Enfield

@jeremydarkcountrysteckman9496 2 жыл бұрын

I have one I inherited from Grandpa Kester

@pilotbarusarao8728 10 ай бұрын

इस राईफल की गोली कितने मिटर पर जाती है बताओ

@guaporeturns9472 Жыл бұрын

Mauser Enfield cross

@Slap0 4 жыл бұрын

Next you need to get bayonets for all your surplus rifles.

@tortoise_gaming 3 жыл бұрын

I have been looking for a bayonet for this rifle for over 20 years without success.

@Slap0 3 жыл бұрын

@@tortoise_gaming crazy, I wish you the best. Each year the harder it gets. I feel like I got last of all the bakelite AK magazines on eBay three years ago, lol.

@cajunamerican2417 2 жыл бұрын

Does He Know The Difference Between A Remington Model O3A3 And A Springfield Model 1903??? He Might Want To Go Back To School On That One 😊

@davidkolb1942 3 жыл бұрын

U.S. rifle model of 1917

@beast-killer-54x71 Жыл бұрын

i hate how you only showed the right side of the rifle the entire time i own one that is modified as a hunting rifle and i wanted to shoW the bolt release slight FAIL