1961: Working in a SUNDERLAND SHIPYARD | Sunderland Oak | World of Work | BBC Archive

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Жыл бұрын

"Why should we live and die by shipbuilding only?"
Philip Donnellan's beautiful documentary Sunderland Oak examines the hopes and fears of workers at the Bartram & Sons shipyard.
Originally broadcast 19 September, 1961.
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@pit_stop77
@pit_stop77 Жыл бұрын
Proud men, debating forces out of their control
@mn4169
@mn4169 9 ай бұрын
My great uncle was welder at the shipyards, he could neither read nor write but was a first class welder.
@looperbirhinger7043
@looperbirhinger7043 Жыл бұрын
3:20 "The issue of the point is - you've got too many boys chasing too few good jobs." This one hasn't changed at all.
@Spookieham
@Spookieham Жыл бұрын
Hard men doing a hard job.
@jameshodgkins559
@jameshodgkins559 Жыл бұрын
Imagine the amount of asbestos they come in contact with . Every day , day in & out
@mrlotusmic
@mrlotusmic Жыл бұрын
You could relate the old fellas as parents debating to the UK construction industry today.
@kevinmichael2538
@kevinmichael2538 Жыл бұрын
it's amazing to watch images of the United Kingdom in the 60's, it already shows how much a place is ahead of time because even the way people talk is different
@hellie_el
@hellie_el Жыл бұрын
wonderful sunderland accent!
@Alan..W
@Alan..W Жыл бұрын
This makes me so sad seeing our long lost heritage in a once proud Sunderland gone. We now have Nissan and it's going to be here for a long time to come, but let's wait and see .....
@dorothyramser7805
@dorothyramser7805 Жыл бұрын
Brought memories back of crossing the bridge on the bus and seeing all the activity on the river
@TinLeadHammer
@TinLeadHammer Жыл бұрын
This was filmed a year after a hanheld Eclair camera with sync sound was created. Looks much less stilted than 1950s vox pops. The BBC should provide more info about subjects and equipment used for every archive reel.
@garryleeks4848
@garryleeks4848 Жыл бұрын
Don’t mess with geezer with the 📝 paper
@lloydmacknight6214
@lloydmacknight6214 Жыл бұрын
Proper Mackem blokes
@ctcurry1777
@ctcurry1777 Жыл бұрын
Other countries can build things cheaper. Another great film.
@marine4lyfe85
@marine4lyfe85 8 ай бұрын
The old boy with the newspaper looks like Paul's grandfather in "A Hard Days Night".
@davedogge2280
@davedogge2280 Жыл бұрын
I just wish Ant & Dec would have had a more wholesome life working at the shipyard there. On a more serious note this is great listening to the serious economic concerns of workers in their local area from over 60 years ago, these days it's just hire and fire with few working rights if you're a bloke.
@nellyfett2681
@nellyfett2681 Жыл бұрын
Can't stick them two!
@Itsembish.
@Itsembish. Жыл бұрын
But this is Sunderland not Newcastle
@johnboy14
@johnboy14 Жыл бұрын
This video is the perfect example of what happens when you don’t evolve, the world just passes you by. There’s no real reason this industry had to die.
@Chris-pq3wp
@Chris-pq3wp Жыл бұрын
Well there isn't any commercial ship building in any Western country anymore except for cruise liners which themselves are having a hard time after the pandemic
@tonypaddler
@tonypaddler 9 ай бұрын
@johnboy ; Thatcher.
@th8257
@th8257 2 ай бұрын
​@@tonypaddlershe definitely killed a lot of it. But many of the problems were there long before her. British industry had been in decline since the late 1800s. You need only look at an old map to see just how many shipyards had gone even by the 1960s. Britain was stuck in the past. We wouldn't invest or change to new techniques and machinery and as a result, the world passed us by.
@th8257
@th8257 2 ай бұрын
​@@Chris-pq3wpthat's not true. The largest shipbuilders in Europe are in Trieste in Italy, with other yards at a number of other Italian cities. They make a range of ships, not just cruise ships. There are also the shipyards in St. Nazaire in France, which are huge. They regularly make tankers, commercial vessels and naval ships, as well as cruise ships.
@Chris-pq3wp
@Chris-pq3wp 2 ай бұрын
@th8257 that is nothing compared to Chinese and south Korean ship production. Italy and France don't make tankers, bulk carriers or container ships which are the vast majority of commercial shipping
@davidoldboy5425
@davidoldboy5425 11 ай бұрын
I was 6, me Grandaa worked at many of the yards first as riveter then as welder, he'd had a hard life which was visible, as most had who'd been through the war. Sunderland was doomed as a shipbuilder due to one thing, geography, the Wear was too narrow, too shallow and with tight bends unsuitable for the size of ships becoming demanded after the 60's, it was that simple. With hindsight they should have swapped from ocean going to coastal and smaller vessels, but the foresight and will weren't there, the Dutch taught them a lesson here. To rub their noses in it they were sent abroad to teach other countries, signing their own death warrant. Everything comes to it's end, shipyards and pits included, but the people naturally were loathe to accept this fact. There will never be a return as the idiots in the council build houses on riverside sites, instead of keeping the areas near the sea for future industry. R.I.P. Sunderland heavy industry both past, present and future.
@daffyduk77
@daffyduk77 3 ай бұрын
Crane op's job not for the partially sighted ... no CCTV to help
@gntdriver2840
@gntdriver2840 Жыл бұрын
Strange but they don't all sound as if their from Sunderland
@th8257
@th8257 2 ай бұрын
I guess a large employer like that would have pulled in people from a wider area
@jasonayres
@jasonayres Жыл бұрын
(4:35) I was waiting for at least one of the older men to say, "During the war..we/you would have to.." Because that's what older people said back then. In my upbringing, anyway, a boy sat there and listened. (An occasional glance at the clock, perhaps. Staring at my shoes, etc. But being quiet, out of respect.)
@garryleeks4848
@garryleeks4848 Жыл бұрын
During the war
@bazsnell3178
@bazsnell3178 Жыл бұрын
Re those the men who wore tee shirts out when it was snowing?
@thomastereszkiewicz2241
@thomastereszkiewicz2241 11 ай бұрын
are these all actors?
@dean6816
@dean6816 Жыл бұрын
Wheys keys are theese!
@lostyank
@lostyank Жыл бұрын
"Guarantee of a lifetime's work ..." 😑😂😑
@justonsullivan3807
@justonsullivan3807 8 ай бұрын
The good ole days. 🙏🇺🇲🗽🇬🇧🙏
@roddymcniven8734
@roddymcniven8734 Жыл бұрын
Then the wheels fell aff
@IAmSoMuchBetterThanYou
@IAmSoMuchBetterThanYou Жыл бұрын
Yep. Otherwise known as the Thatcher government.
@roddymcniven8734
@roddymcniven8734 Жыл бұрын
@@IAmSoMuchBetterThanYou how could I forget? Was born in 66, certainly fkd Scotland over.
@TheJuzi
@TheJuzi Жыл бұрын
Look what they took from us...
@th8257
@th8257 2 ай бұрын
Whose "they"? You some kind of russian troll?
@fidelcatsro6948
@fidelcatsro6948 Жыл бұрын
good old days of working without hardhats, gloves, welding goggles, etc...
@IAmSoMuchBetterThanYou
@IAmSoMuchBetterThanYou Жыл бұрын
And the accompanying gaping headwounds, lost fingers, deaths from falls, blindness etc...
@bid84
@bid84 Жыл бұрын
Ever get a piece of tile enamel travel to the back of your eye and start to cut the nerves from the back?
@kopynd1
@kopynd1 Жыл бұрын
no tradesmen left, all machines operators now, a joiner years ago had all his tools in a box and not 1 electrical tool in there, all hand tools
@neo1559
@neo1559 Жыл бұрын
Wasn’t this supposedly around the time that Western men were oppressing women, taking it easy, and laughing over cigars and cocktails?
@rosewhite---
@rosewhite--- 7 ай бұрын
how man UK jobs were lost because UK workers were idle and didn't give a damn about quality of getting products out in time.
@johnstudd4245
@johnstudd4245 2 ай бұрын
And unions protecting them.
@andrewstripreports9275
@andrewstripreports9275 2 ай бұрын
Sunderland is now a s*** hole these days
@borderlands6606
@borderlands6606 Жыл бұрын
I used to enjoy poetic documentaries like this. Now they seem like the forerunner of the propaganda that is universal today.
@buy.to.let.britain
@buy.to.let.britain 3 ай бұрын
i would rather claim universal income, than work doing this !!
@alanbeaumont4848
@alanbeaumont4848 Жыл бұрын
An industry destroyed by a refusal to modernise.
@heinkle1
@heinkle1 Жыл бұрын
A microcosm of British industry at large
@Spookieham
@Spookieham Жыл бұрын
Plenty of blame to go round. Lack of investment plus poor management gets its share of the blame also. Clydeside went the same way although Warship building survives.
@alanbeaumont4848
@alanbeaumont4848 Жыл бұрын
@@Spookieham The writing was on the wall in 1945; the American had demonstrated how to build ships quickly with new techniques.
@Macm73
@Macm73 9 ай бұрын
Wasn’t it J L Thompson yard that developed those techniques,ie liberty ships where patented by jlThompsons. Demand for ships after the war was so high they couldn’t cease production to modernise. Heartbreaking to see the Wear no longer building ships.
@custa73burner
@custa73burner 8 ай бұрын
Doxford's yard in Pallion still holds the record for the most ships built in a single callender year during WW2
@garryleeks4848
@garryleeks4848 Жыл бұрын
When men weren’t scared of grafting work
@SwazersC
@SwazersC Жыл бұрын
When men were not attacked & abused on a daily basis by the MSM.
@IAmSoMuchBetterThanYou
@IAmSoMuchBetterThanYou Жыл бұрын
Sure.
@th8257
@th8257 2 ай бұрын
When trolls weren't russian
@MANCHESTERUKABRIEFVIDEOOFTIME
@MANCHESTERUKABRIEFVIDEOOFTIME Жыл бұрын
Boy or Girl you mean 🤣
@occidentadvocate.9759
@occidentadvocate.9759 Жыл бұрын
Wheres all the Black and Brown people? I've been taught Britain was allways "multi- Racial and Multicultural"?
@custa73burner
@custa73burner 8 ай бұрын
Shipyard workers were mostly grandfather, father, and son workplaces and in the early 60's there were very few "immigrants" in Sunderland. You'll also notice there were no women, even though women were employed to keep the yards functional during WW2 while a lot of the men went to war. When some of the men returned, the women were replaced.
@th8257
@th8257 2 ай бұрын
Why do you care, russian troll?
@robertbest4398
@robertbest4398 Жыл бұрын
UK government Tories and labour brutal wrecked country shocking ongoing
@edwardwilson7485
@edwardwilson7485 Жыл бұрын
Not much equality or diversity there, bloody dinosaurs
@HorseMalone
@HorseMalone 5 ай бұрын
Lol...
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