Pub's are still a very strong part of our culture, in fact, it's still here, in my local everyone knows me, in fact i'm known in the whole village and everyone knows each other where i live. This isn't really the past, i wouldn't worry about it, i see people like this all the time..

@@delong8998when you say you are known to the rest of the villagers, could you please explain how and why? Thanks.

​@@GeorgeSmith1066I speak to a lot of different people when im in a pub and get to know them and have a laugh, you'll see the same people in the pub much like this video, these people live locally and ill see them walking amongst the village, makes it so that when i walk to the shop ill stop and say hello to at least 3-5 people on my way, it's lovely here where i live, amazing just outside london, still in the south, and still much like this.

Reminds me of O’connels in white teeth

Where abouts was they? Road name etc? Would love to look at the area now.

@@JakeP-bb5hh I believe it's around Pendleton in Salford

@@ilikethiskindatube I saw after I watched the video. It’s very different now Thankyou.

Some are still there. But yeah, they lasted 40yrs.

The biggest problem, as it strikes me, is that the midcentury style of planning was overly-focused on what the project looks like when viewed from the sky. For people in planes to think "that looks nice" as they go on their holiday. There was no real emphasis on what it was like down on the ground, with poor sightlines and an unfriendly scale.

@@kaitlyn__L Plus absolutely no consideration given to continuity of community. These planner just thought they could split up centuries old communities and then move people who have never met together and it would all work out. Stalin would have been proud of them.

Yes, correct Internet tv and media brain washing everyone. The youth have no chance today, I'm afraid.

yes i agree, it’s really a shame how gradually each generation has gotten less articulate!

​@@ghenny69420 *become less articulate

@@ghenny69420 It is a shame, yet even this comment features an Americanism (gotten) that has crept into modern British English

@@HordleJohn deez nuts. Gottem 😂

was.... not anymore. shame really

@@nmoore1988 people aren't desperate to get out the house now

@@sacred1827 And the expense of things nowadays isn't helping matters either.

Sounds depressing if that was the case

@@SK-kh2rs how? pubs are great

The authentic voice of Lancs.

For distinguished and elegant the zeitgeist read elitist and refined. They sought a utopian style that struck a new note of common identity but it was obviously doomed

@@pgs1796 they're now back in charge of the country

@@johnmurray5573 Tories were in 57-63 when most of this happened.

@@thrashstronaut but the idea had been sold well. the destruciotn of communities and the creation of new ones to reshape the citizens was a purely soviet idea. it tended to falter under the tories but everyone had bought into the propoganda.

@@user-pb4xt4rg3z Never the Tories fault is it.

To be fair to Wetherspoons, you can still meet your mates there and have a good time and the drinks are well priced, just like these old pubs, but I think that's it's the culture that's changed more than anything. In fact, culture of any kind has been pretty much dead for the past 20 years. Strange time's we're living in..

@@Danceswithbugs This. Been fortunate enough that I have a god group of friends who still meet up and who I have a tangible friendship with. Know an uncomfortable amount of people that have almost entirely digital friendships. So connected but so disconnected at the same time. No wonder the world seems so glum apart from the times I'm with my boys. It's getting harder to think that things will get better.

Wetherspoons has saved a lot of historical buildings from being demolished

Ive always called Wspoons the mcdonalds of pubs

@@Danceswithbugs internet age. people aren't as keen to go out as often now. a pub becomes the hub of the community if people are in there often. not every few weeks.

No, they have learned. Thats why they do it.

No mistake - they just don't give a monkey's

"And this is their dream...something altogether more distinguished and elegant" *cuts to a soulless Orwellian concrete monstrosity*

You're making an essential mistake, the pain isn't the passenger, it's the point.

Where did you hear this?

@@ElvayProductions i google it

But when other people do this it's a problem 🤔

They probably were a lot happier and lives had more meaning too! Compared to now where 'anything is possible' and we are told we can be and do anything we want if we work for it (not true)

@@Londonechoes I dunno about happier, but simpler I can imagine. They generally worried about their own lives, work and the immediate community. Now every kid has the whole word in their phone. It brings different pressures and confusion.

@@sacred1827 Very true

The government took these indigenous people from 99% to 50% of their cities' population, their government has been hostile and occupied for 80 years

Someone mentioned in a comment that those tower blocks were demolished not long ago.

Planners very seldom mean well. As long as they get paid, they don't really care. Most of them don't even live in the locality of their destruction, and have no local knowledge whatsoever. Where I live, a load of expensive flats were built next to a river, despite the fact that the river ran in a channel higher than the level of the first floor and garage levels. I expect you can see where this is going, can't you. A storm in the winter of 2013 meant that people woke up to find they couldn't leave their new homes, as the ground floor was under 6-7 feet of filthy water.

Exactly. Why not make improvements to the area instead of destroying the lot and displacing a whole community. It must be profit motivated to do this. It's so wrong.

@@brianartillery They should be held accountable for their dumb decisons.

Nice try.

The planners saw the numbers and that's all that matters to them, not the people.

Squaller

Because it was unsanitary.

It is for some, for me it is at least, i live this life pretty much, go to work, go to the pub after and chat to people you know

Just goes to show that change without community is a slow death. Decline in morale and morality followes.✌️☘️

I remember when the first supermarket opened near where I lived in the early 60s, and within a fortnight all the local shops were closing….one by one…

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Similar happened to the area in Leeds where i used to leave. Cross Green up until the late 90s had around 12 or 13 pubs, now even with a bigger population and regeneration in the area there are no pubs at all. You have to go into leeds centre for a pint. It's really disappointing but I have moved out of inner city Leeds to garforth on the outskirts. Luckily I still have 2 local pubs within 5 minutes walking distance and 7 throughout the town.

@@kylereed9309 because people realised wasting money on what is essentially poison is dumb and stupid.

@@TheWeepingDalek and I've just realised your small, insignificant and the whole world doesn't share the same thoughts as you but thanks for the opinion anyway.

@@kylereed9309 then why are so many pubs closing. Why are the younger generations moving away from drinking

Its a Pub, it's not that deep, calm down buttercup.

Did you know what was there before? It was essentially slums Talk for London if you like but you know naff all about Salford

The 'genoa side' of the indigenous people of Manchester and London has been far worse than the destruction of it's architecture, the same hostile occupied gov did that to them aswell

@@nonono9194 it was slums tho, my family was from them Great gran used to say how bad it was

Me too. They sound like my 73 year old dad.

The accent here is Manchester/Salford, it's not the Lancashire accent of Bolton, Rochdale, Oldham, Bury and other towns in the area. Salford borders Manchester (the dividing line is the River Irwell). Manchester and Salford have always had a completely different accent to the surrounding areas and continue to do so, I'm from Newton Heath, North East Manchester and have lived in area nearly all of my lfe, I'd say the first landlord'a accent is typical of the area.

Try the wandering turnip. He's a youtuber but just did a doc on fish and chips in the UK

​@@douglasnorth2429Thank you for sharing!

live on the streets then

And now the immigrants are 50% of all of Manchester, what evil group would've inflicted such a fate on the indigenous people's of the city

Well put.

That generation were amazing. I do wonder, I really do.

Not allowed to be like that anymore not allowed to share an opinion or have a different point of view unless it fit's with the absolute extremists and crazies of today.

​@@UXB-p5uI completely disagree. There were nice elements to this old drinking culture. Connections, community, identity. The shot with the pubs being the only thing left tells its own story.

@@UXB-p5u You've diverted this in a very predictably irrelevant direction

The main thing is to reject racialism.

You say rude i say honest, you say simple minded i say traditional. these type of people built the cities and towns, they were the life blood of the country.

Why do you think they were simpleminded and rude?

The 60s was the antithesis of conservation, preservation and heritage

1963: HOW LOCAL IS YOUR LOCAL? | Tonight | Voice of the People | BBC Archive 1353pm 6.7.24 did you watch this thinking: there's a familiar face....? one of 'em looked like a realyion from coronation street, another looked like some neighbour of my mothers...another an old relation... jeeez.... people dont wander far, do they? salford and burnley are desperatly different. i seem to be of the former mindset wihtout the attendant scally aspect...

not as much as you like destorying other's cultures

@@TheWeepingDalek zinger!

@@TheWeepingDalek do elaborate please

@@eskimo4130 there's various of cultures of old that no longer exist because of the British empire

They removed solidarity. Steadily and surely.

1963: HOW LOCAL IS YOUR LOCAL? | Tonight | Voice of the People | BBC Archive i know the feeling, though...... you get settled and yer have a local. same fces, no mither or hassles. without being condescendign the words; it's a shame spring to mind. smae thing's happenign again. as they graduallt pohase out the pub as was. no need to close half of 'em. just a-holes and their realty plots shfting folk on. on the bus i used to gawp out the widnow and think: if the guy at the swan (off rochdale road) could see his way to sticking it out (as manchester undergoes a bit of gentrification then he'd make a packet, i thought)... this was about 25 year ago, though. wonder if he did. or she did - stick it out, i mean? - might have been a landlady's concern.... good luck to 'em. as for a chap being lost without his local - very true!! very true!!!

Probably because of the shoddy work from all the drunk builders.

@@Coolcarting think it became a modern slum lack of community adhesion between the disparate groups dumped there

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Have a Google for Salford Precinct. That's the exact area.

​@@SirFlashman-zv7ueAnd what a resounding success that's been!

Pigeons 🐦 and dinghy boat men 🌚and endless grey rainy wet days☔ 💯

You need to use a colon for a time stamp mate 7:35 Hope that helps.

its sarcasm, some people are thick as mud.

@@keef78 He was serious. I can understand how some at the time may have looked upon that plan in a positive manner, we all know with hindsight how awful they were and should never of been built.

It was legal til 1967.

'So old ' you mean not looking chavvy and having pink and blue hair which seems to be the fashion in this 'enlightened' age? 🙄

@@UXB-p5u No, I mean 28 year olds who look 45. The same phenomenon can be observed when looking at English footballers from the 1930s and 1940s

​@@beckyzwhite You can see the same phenomenon now as millennials get older but still wear clothes and hairstyles that went out of fashion in the 2010s and 00s. Same as gen-X actually who still dress and wear 90s and 00s fashion. The 30 year old people in this video dress and talk and carry themselves like what we would associate with old people in their 70s and 80s now, unsurprisingly, because this generation are now in their 70s and 80s. It's not helped by the awful diet, poor healthcare and hard manual work that cause physical aging. This crowd in the pub looks physically much fitter and well-postured than today's male population though in spite of all that

Me also but im sure its just the council being slow or landlords earning some quick cash before they pulled down.

"other unpleasant people" 😂

And you can have a snout at home

Sounds like a difficult life you have if you want to escape it by getting smashed. ❤

Same attack going on back then is still going on now it as never stopped all one big all out attack on our identity culture history freedom.💯

"there's no place like home"?