1965 Dodge Dart GT Budget Build, A Y-Dart Engine Swap That No One Has Ever Done, "So why ask why?"

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1965 Dodge Dart GT Budget Build, A Y-Dart Engine Swap That No One Has Ever Done, "So why ask why?"

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Күн бұрын

Can You Guess What This Engine Is? If so, leave a comment and let's see if you get it right? I'll give you a hint, Robert Mitchum drove one in the best Car Movie of all time! and the revenuers couldn't catch him no matter how hard they tried......
With all the High Pocket, BIG Budget LS, Coyote, & Hemi Swaps on the old internet I thought, "what could I do different?" In true to the word, real world Budget Friendly engine swaps that haven't been done before...... well how about the ORGINAL THROW AWAY ENGINE of the 1960!
Honestly my dad gives me SoooOoooo much grief over playing with these little oddity engines that most people have totally forgotten about. And the answer is simple..... all the ones I've gotten my hands on are the "Get it out of my Shop" price..... aka FREE!
Now, these engines had a BIG reputation for not lasting long, and today's aftermarket support for them in NON-Existent so I'm going to pull out all the tricks I learned from people like @HotRodReverend and ‪@mctim64‬ to get this little 1965 Dodge Dart GT to the #nonamenationals this coming September.

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@Raycr Жыл бұрын

HotRodding. The joy of going where no man has gone before, without getting away from gravity! You can't smoke the tires if you're floating.

@BareRoseGarage Жыл бұрын

No truer words can be said..... for sure Raycr! (and I know for sure, NASA had a lot of "hot rodders" on that team that got us to the moon, maybe that's why we didn't go back, they didn't let Shepard do a burn out in that Moon Buggy....lol)

@musclecarmitch908 Жыл бұрын

I'm surprised how well that engine fit's in there! Dare to be different!👍

@BareRoseGarage Жыл бұрын

I was too! I was suspecting this to be a LOT more...... challenging that it is.... lol. It's still going to take some cut & weld, but I was really thinking it was going to be a lot more.

@timwindsor03 Жыл бұрын

That would happen to be the Y engine. Awesome video. Thanks for sharing. Keep the content coming. Hope you have an incredible weekend. Much love and RESPECT

@BareRoseGarage Жыл бұрын

Spot on and right back at ya man!

@edsmachine93 Жыл бұрын

You got it sitting in there BareRose. Looks like a great start. Thanks for sharing. Take care, Ed.

@BareRoseGarage Жыл бұрын

It really surprises me how it "mocked up" in there. I could kind of visualize it all in my head, but to see it hands on is ..... yeah..... I'll be dad gum it does.... lolol. thanks for stopping in Ed. Sorry for the late reply, had major computer problems for a while there.

@stephenhotzjustdriveit Жыл бұрын

Very cool and love the engine choice

@BareRoseGarage Жыл бұрын

Thanks Stephen! She's going to be a whole lot different..... and in a way..... it's the 1965 Coyote Swap right? Lolololol

@JimsIfitaintbrokefixit Жыл бұрын

This is going to be another Great Project. Can't wait.

@BareRoseGarage Жыл бұрын

Thanks a mill for that LetsBreakThings!

@paintnamer6403 Жыл бұрын

YGTA! This is the kind of project that makes me think a C 4 transmission would be good, does it interchange? No but after a look there are conversion bell housings. I doubt you want to get spendy with this but I think this is great for the spirit of hot rodding! The slant six torsion bars are used for drag racing too.

@BareRoseGarage Жыл бұрын

Oh man.... when it comes to FoMoCo & Bell Housings..... yeah.... break out the wallet lolololol and as for the transmission.... she's going with the clutch. I have quite a few of those 3 speed transmissions and they are all really compact..... and the CR (close ratio) Kits for them are still Really Cheap compared to the Muncie and others. Other than that, Spot On Man and thanks a million man!

@mattthescrapwhisperer Жыл бұрын

I had a 292 in a 60 Ford station wagon back in the day. It had the external oil lines to the top end valve train. It always ran good but I'm a Mopar guy so I sold the wagon and bought a 61 Dodge Polara 2 door hardtop. That Y block otta make the old Dart get up and sing!

@BareRoseGarage Жыл бұрын

Yeah in the final years of them dealers were scrambling to come up with fixes for that until they finally phased them out of production.... and the biggest fix that became popular was to just pull them and drop an FE or Windsor in there when they would die. The old Flatheads actually share a lot of the oiling design (and other things) but they lasted longer because the valve train on them is inside all that, riding directly on the cam, so it got oiled from there a whole lot better. That and..... well honestly.... the Flatheads only made about half the power as these.... lol. They didn't have the power to hurt themselves.

@randysummerhays4168 8 ай бұрын

I had a 292 and a 54 pick up it fly . Blew the 3 speed all over the ground! Got right after that. 56 New Yorker 354 hemi & 1960 cast iron case Push button torqueflite. Zoom ooo ! I was 21 in 1981 . At that time was amazing that so many people didn't have a clue what the engine was. Pisses me off they call this new junk Hemis, my ass !

@cmintsurfer Жыл бұрын

I don't know which Y block that is but my Brother in Law had a 57 Ford pickup with a 292 back in the late '70s. He found an aftermarket 4-barrel manifold for it. That truck was fun.

@BareRoseGarage Жыл бұрын

These old Y-Blocks are a lot of fun for sure, and you nailed it brother! This one is the MEL 312 from a '59 Merc that I"m using as a mock-up for the one I have all painted up and ready to go, but they are pretty much the exact same.

@UnfinishedProjectDartSport Жыл бұрын

312 Y Block.

@BareRoseGarage Жыл бұрын

☝The hardest guy on the net to stump! Spot on brother!

@MrValhem265 Жыл бұрын

now ya rockin

@BareRoseGarage Жыл бұрын

Thanks MrValhem!

@travismopargarage4949 Жыл бұрын

yes those ports are very odd on that Y block

@BareRoseGarage Жыл бұрын

She's been around a while.... and itching to get back into the game.... FOR SURE! lolololol

@phillipsrundripbubblecompa9232 Жыл бұрын

Well I would have never guessed

@BareRoseGarage Жыл бұрын

Blew me away as well... lolololol

@JasonsGarargeandrvrepair Жыл бұрын

A y block ford ! awesome

@BareRoseGarage Жыл бұрын

Going all the way back to the days when I first met you man! lololoolol

@Dr.Frankenstein65 Жыл бұрын

My money is on a Ford engine of some vintage. Gonna be awesome. Great weight transfer 👍

@BareRoseGarage Жыл бұрын

Dang near Nailed It Man, and great to see ya again! Yeah, it's that old 312 Y-Block I've had in the back of the shop for some time now, but this one is just the mock up, so I don't scratch up the pretty one I have ready to go in the hole.... lol.

@Dr.Frankenstein65 Жыл бұрын

@BareRose Garage Right on ! Hope to see this ride at this year's NNN ! I am always a fan of swapping DNA. Man that fits like a glove 👍

@bertgrau3934 Жыл бұрын

I think it's a Ford Y block from late 50s through 59. Just a guess on my part. Good luck, I hope it goes easy, and is what your hoping for.

@BareRoseGarage Жыл бұрын

Almost Spot On! right down to the year! It's actually the MEL 312 from a '59 Mercury, one of the last years for this in the MEL line-up. Good Job Man!

@bertgrau3934 Жыл бұрын

@@BareRoseGarage I don't remember those engines being real powerful, but I seem to remember they were long lasting engines. Again, good luck with the engine I hope it works out great for you.

@THEMOFODRIVER. Жыл бұрын

Nice fit. I like your Dart

@BareRoseGarage Жыл бұрын

Thanks a Mill MOFO! Thunder KISS is becoming "More Human Than Human" by the day.... lolololol

@THEMOFODRIVER. Жыл бұрын

@@BareRoseGarage 😂 🧟‍♂️

@kraschsclassics Жыл бұрын

Y, add a 610 pound engine Then a cast iron Ford-O-Matic. Your right. No one else has done it. All the more reason to do it.

@BareRoseGarage Жыл бұрын

Oh yeah, they are on the heavy side, but as for a Slush-O-Matic? No Way, Nope, Not gonna do it.... lol I'm going to try my best to also make this a "Tree Swinger"..... I wonder how many drag racers remember that term, and more so, how many drag racers these days can "swing a tree"...... lol.

@IndirectConnection1 Жыл бұрын

People may ask Y that engine. I say, Y not! This is what hot rodding is all about. Making what you have work, and trYing what others haven't!

@BareRoseGarage Жыл бұрын

So very very true man!

@IndirectConnection1 Жыл бұрын

Kim, which engine is it? I would think a 292, but it could be anything from a 239 on up. Can you do a video on distinguishing the different Y blocks? Thanks!

@BareRoseGarage Жыл бұрын

This one happens to be my 312 MEL, but its just the mock-up one so I don't scratch up the painted up one I'm actually putting in here. I've had it laying around for some time now, waiting for a "Light Car Build" to put it in, so I said "what the heck"..... lol Let's do a period correct "Coyote Swap" lolololol. In the coming video's I'll go into all that, because I have all three of them -239, 272 & 312 here in the shop. Along with where the nickname "Coyote" came from on these things.

@hensleyshobbies-doug7761 Жыл бұрын

292 or 312? Ain't nothing wrong with that, there's been worse than that done before but ain't nothing wrong with either one of those Y blocks, their both are strong running engines. Part of the reason why the revenuers couldn't catch Robert Mitchum in that movie. Good deal bud!

@BareRoseGarage Жыл бұрын

Hey there Doug, good to see ya man! Spot on brother! This is that 312 MEL I've had for some time now.... I'm using it as a mock-up for the actual "painted up ready to go one" but it's pretty much the exact same thing! Again..... great to see ya man.

@hensleyshobbies-doug7761 Жыл бұрын

@@BareRoseGarage - Cool buddy, I like your way of thinking, although you might pee off some Mopar boys, hahaha, oh well, let them get their own channel and stuff, right? Anyways, heck guys have put smallblock Chevys in fox body mustangs, among other things, so what's the biggie, is what I say. The way I look at it, is your still putting a old Mopar back on the road, what's the difference what kind of drivetrain is in it. Haha, it's still gonna be COOL! Rock on 🤘 buddy!

@NathansMoparGarage Жыл бұрын

Y is right. Is that the same width as a Mopar small block?

@BareRoseGarage Жыл бұрын

It's actually only about an inch wider than a 302 Ford and about 2 inches narrower than the LA (that's almost the same as a sbc). The advantage of this one though, is the deep skirted block (like an LS) that gave it the nickname, Y-Block and the "up flowing" exhaust.

@MrValhem265 Жыл бұрын

be the Y engine.

@BareRoseGarage Жыл бұрын

nailed it man!

@one62projects Жыл бұрын

Looks like that dart is saying make me a gasser...are you hot rodding it?

@BareRoseGarage Жыл бұрын

Oh Yeah it does..... lolololool Yeah, since this one is being trailered to events, it really opens the door to doing "What Ever" to it, so it will get some Hot-Rod fun for sure now.... lolololol

@OlysGarage Жыл бұрын

I was wondering when this video was gonna drop. It's hard to believe that the Y block is that light!? Either that or the slant is that heavy...?

@BareRoseGarage Жыл бұрын

Hey there Oly, DANG good to see you man! That 312 Y-Block is actually about the same weight as that Slant, but because it doesn't hang over the front axle it's taking that weight and transferring it to the rear now. Now it's setting lower in the rear, but the front is sitting on the bump stops... lol.

@OlysGarage Жыл бұрын

@@BareRoseGarage one would have thought the Y-block would be much heavier. Interesting.....

@BareRoseGarage Жыл бұрын

@@OlysGarage One of these days I need to invest in a "hanger scale" for the cherry picker because when you look up these weights on the inner net... they are ALL OVER the place. That picker grunted pretty good getting that Slant out of there, about as much as it did lifting that 460. It would be cool as all get out to find out just how much these things actually do weigh. (and yup... on looking through Amazon right now trying to figure out what in the hell those scales are actually called so I can order one... lololololol)

@OlysGarage Жыл бұрын

@@BareRoseGarage oh man thats a great idea! Yeah because you never know the true weight..?! Is it with or without accessories, and which accessories, etc... Its about as horrible as that stupid 9" ford axle width chart thats been roaming the internet for AGES. Most those widths are morbidly wrong!!!

@robbieautrey3158 Жыл бұрын

WHY?!! Because you can eh BareRose? It does fit like a glove in there and looks like it belongs there. Cool idea BareRose but i have no idea what engine it is.. Good luck with it..

@BareRoseGarage Жыл бұрын

Hey there Robbie good to see ya man and that's exactly what I say.... lol. It's that 312 Y-Block from my way way early videos that I shelved because I needed a lighter car to stick it in.... and all be dipped, I came across an ultra light car that needed an engine.... lolololol.

@sidewyndersshed1676 Жыл бұрын

(312?) Y block Ford 😁👍

@BareRoseGarage Жыл бұрын

Hard to get one past you man... lol.

@sidewyndersshed1676 Жыл бұрын

@@BareRoseGarage LOL 😁👍🤣

@firstrespondergarage Жыл бұрын

Y-Not 🚒👍 Im liking it

@BareRoseGarage Жыл бұрын

That's what I say... lol.

@MrValhem265 Жыл бұрын

man im cheating mel 312 is that a MERCURY YBLOCK ? SOME of them 312's had a supercharger back in the day?

@BareRoseGarage Жыл бұрын

Spot on man, this is the infamous F-Code.... and the original coyote engine. They got the nickname coyote from the casting numbers on these heads.... kind of like the Dove heads of the 70's. Unfortunately, though I didn't get the super charger with this. He sold that for more than he sold the whole car for.... lololol. I picked it up for the heads and intake.

@deanstevenson6527 Жыл бұрын

WhY a Dart GeeTee?

@BareRoseGarage Жыл бұрын

lololollolol I like that lololololol

@alva1370 Жыл бұрын

No idea what motor you have. The tall exhaust is screaming for a couple cheap eBay turbos.

@BareRoseGarage Жыл бұрын

Oh yeah.... lololol and it lines up perfect with that battery box cut out as well. A turbo charged Y-Block Ford in a Dodge Dart? hmmmmmm

@autosalvage Жыл бұрын

Ford first on race day 🤣😂

@BareRoseGarage Жыл бұрын

Found On Re-engineered Dodge

@autosalvage Жыл бұрын

@@BareRoseGarage 😂😂😂

@EverythingHorsepower Жыл бұрын

Y YY would you do that . Name it why not fart

@BareRoseGarage Жыл бұрын

Y a-body Fart..... lolololololol

@EverythingHorsepower Жыл бұрын

@@BareRoseGarage now that’s funny

@hotrod4d Жыл бұрын

Another ridiculous boomer dream

@BareRoseGarage Жыл бұрын

I'm too young to be a "boomer" but I do what I can to keep the dream alive lol

@hotrod4d Жыл бұрын

@@BareRoseGarage excuse me, Gen Xers are about as bad as the boomers especially when you willingly keep an unhealthy mentality. Like I love both of these things but there are far better uses of the time and resources. Sometimes it's not a question of "could I?", it's more of a "should I?" situation

@hotrod4d Жыл бұрын

Sweet dart though man, good luck and be safe