1970-1979 Cincinnati Reds Highlights (TWIB)

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1970s retrospective and 1980 preview from This Week in Baseball.
Big Red Machine is a nickname for the Cincinnati Reds baseball team that dominated the National League from 1970 to 1979 and is widely recognized as being among the best in baseball history. The team won six National League West Division titles, four National League pennants, and two World Series titles. Its combined record from 1970-1979 was 953 wins and 657 losses, an average of more than 95 wins per season.
The core of that Reds team had the best record in the Major Leagues in 1981, but did not make the postseason because of Bowie Kuhn's split-season playoff format due to the player's strike.
The nickname was introduced in a July 4, 1969 article by Bob Hertzel in The Cincinnati Enquirer, but gained prominence in reference to the 1970 team, which posted a regular season record of 102-60 and won the National League pennant. Rookie and future-Hall of Fame manager Sparky Anderson headed the team, which at its peak featured Pete Rose, Johnny Bench, Joe Morgan and Tony Pérez, and was supported by Dave Concepción, George Foster, César Gerónimo and Ken Griffey, Sr. The Cincinnati Reds of the 1970s garnered more World Series appearances than any other team during that decade, with an overall record of 953 wins and 657 losses. They are the only National League team during the last 97 years to win back-to-back World Championships. Before them, the 1921 and 1922 New York Giants were the last NL team to accomplish this feat. Among NL teams, only the 1996 Atlanta Braves and the 2009 Philadelphia Phillies have returned to the Fall Classic with a chance to repeat as World Champions in years since, both falling to the New York Yankees of the "Core Four" era. The 2010-2014 San Francisco Giants did win three World Championships in five years, at least sparking the debate of whether they could be considered a National League dynasty, but they did not reach the postseason in consecutive years during this span.
The "Great Eight"
The eight players most frequently referenced as members of the Big Red Machine include baseball's all-time hit leader in Rose; three Hall of Fame players in Bench, Pérez and Morgan; six National League MVP selections; four National League home run leading seasons; three NL Batting Champions; 25 Gold Glove winning seasons, and 63 collective All-Star Game appearances.The starting lineup of Bench, Rose, Morgan, Pérez, Concepción, Foster, Griffey, and Gerónimo (collectively referred to as the "Great Eight") played 88 games together during the 1975 and 1976 seasons, losing only 19.
Later Years
Dan Driessen took over at first base for Tony Perez in 1977. Although some of the original players departed the team, some extended the Big Red Machine nickname for two more years until the departures of Anderson and Rose following the 1978 season. The Reds turned around to finish in second place in 1977 and 1978. Ray Knight replaced Pete Rose at third base for Cincinnati in 1979 and the rest of the Reds starting lineup still included six of the great eight: Bench, Morgan, Foster, Concepcion, Griffey and Geronimo. The Cincinnati Reds won another division title in 1979, but lost to the Pittsburgh Pirates in the NLCS.
The Big Red Machine had one last great run in 1981 when they finished the strike season with the best record in baseball. Only three of the great eight remained in the starting lineup: Foster, Griffey and Concepcion. Bench had an injury plagued season and was moved from catcher to third base. Tom Seaver had a win-loss record of 14-2 and an ERA of 2.54 while starting only 23 games in the Reds' strike-shortened 108-game regular season. Despite that, the Reds finished second in the National League West in both halves of the season, making them ineligible to compete in the postseason despite having the best overall record in baseball.
Rivalries
The Big Red Machine's archrival were the Los Angeles Dodgers. The two teams often competed for the NL West division title and finished either first or second in every year from 1970 through 1979 with the one exception being 1971. Reds manager Sparky Anderson once said, "I don't think there's a rivalry like ours in either league. The Giants are supposed to be the Dodgers' natural rivals, but I don't think the feeling is there anymore. It's not there the way it is with us and the Dodgers." The rivalry ended when division realignment moved the Reds to the NL Central. However, they did face one another in the 1995 NLDS.
The Big Red Machine was also part of the rivalry with the two Pennsylvania teams. All of the Reds' four pennants in the 1970s came against these teams (Pittsburgh Pirates in 1970, 1972, and 1975, and Philadelphia Phillies in 1976). In 1979, Pete Rose added to the notion of the Big Red Machine being part of the rivalry when he signed with the Phillies and helped them win their first World Series championship in 1980.

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@garycourtier4668
@garycourtier4668 10 ай бұрын
I can still remember the Reds starting line up. Pete Rose, "Little Joe" Morgan, Ken Griffey Sr., Tony Perez, Johnny Bench, George Foster, David Concepcion, and Caesar Geronimo. Dodgers: David Lopes, Bill Russell, Steve Garvey, Ron Cey, Dusty Baker, Reggie Smith, Rick Monday, and Steve Yeager. Two great teams. One great rivalry. Was blessed to see it.
@mountcomfort740
@mountcomfort740 2 ай бұрын
I remember sitting with my dad eating pot roast watching Pete Rose
@bitemenow609
@bitemenow609 Жыл бұрын
I have been a Reds fan since the late 1960s and went to Crosley field many times. The 60s and 70s was the golden age of baseball. There were so many good/great teams and players. Free agency destroyed it all.
@marqueswilliams345
@marqueswilliams345 4 ай бұрын
How so?
@bitemenow609
@bitemenow609 4 ай бұрын
@@marqueswilliams345 Broke up teams and destroyed fan interests in teams and the game.
@troyc4250
@troyc4250 2 жыл бұрын
Man those 70s Reds were something else
@scooby45247
@scooby45247 2 жыл бұрын
it helps to have the best catcher ever ( beside josh gibson ) & the best hitter ever to pick up a bat..
@CHI-JORDAN-CHI
@CHI-JORDAN-CHI Ай бұрын
@@scooby45247 lmao Josh Gibson? He is not anywhere in the league of the greatest ever in Johnny Bench figuratively and of course, literally!
@scooby45247
@scooby45247 Ай бұрын
@@CHI-JORDAN-CHI you know nothing of baseball..
@bradlafferty6076
@bradlafferty6076 Жыл бұрын
I love these guys, I’ll never forget wearing my Cincinnati Reds batting helmet through JFK Airport in 1977, the dirty looks I got warmed my heart. In your face Yankees.
@danielarmstrong9971
@danielarmstrong9971 6 ай бұрын
Been a Reds fan forever, hopefully the Reds will return to the top of the NL.
@owenmeyer1305
@owenmeyer1305 3 жыл бұрын
Cool to see these '70's highlights.
@ddenuci
@ddenuci 4 жыл бұрын
Will McEnaney and Rawly Eastwick were the relief pitching stars of the 1975 Reds, as shown in 2:25. (There was also the veterans Clay Carroll and Pedro Borbon, to round off a few formidable bullpen). Looking back at their careers now, it's sad how short the careers of McEnaney and Eastwick turned out to be. McEnaney, who was 23 in that 1975 season and saved 15 games, was out of the MLB at the age of 27. He was off the Reds roster following a disappointing 1976 season. Eastwick was 24 in 1975 and saved 22 games. He had an even better 1976 season with the Reds, but was traded in the middle of the 1977 seasons and managed to eke out a few more seasons in MLB, retiring at the age of 30. He never came close to repeating the success he had with the Reds.
@jayratliff4191
@jayratliff4191 11 ай бұрын
Tony Perez sent packing for the "hot hitting" Dan Driessen" turned out to be the worst move ever as Tony held that team together.
@jaysantos11
@jaysantos11 Жыл бұрын
i from the small northern cal town as Gary Nolan, he’s the only famous person to come from there. so cool to see this
@RoundingThird
@RoundingThird Жыл бұрын
He is #2 on Prime 9’s list of greatest teenage seasons. It’s around 45 min into this video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o7GSmq54rNWoiok.html
@jaysantos11
@jaysantos11 Жыл бұрын
@@RoundingThird great thanks for the link
@jonlanier_
@jonlanier_ 10 ай бұрын
Sparky showed them and went on to Detroit and won more World Series.
@borood1188
@borood1188 3 жыл бұрын
Greatest team ever
@lloydkline6946
@lloydkline6946 3 жыл бұрын
Greatest hitting team ever 1970s Cincinnati reds, hit machine baseball team, pitching only weakness
@damongwinn
@damongwinn 3 жыл бұрын
@@lloydkline6946 If I'm not mistaken, Caesar Geronimo hit .308 and he was hitting 8th in the lineup.
@lloydkline6946
@lloydkline6946 3 жыл бұрын
@@damongwinn big red machine,, no pitching, all bat
@MrPocketfullOfSteel
@MrPocketfullOfSteel Жыл бұрын
@@lloydkline6946 The pitching wasn't near as bad as many claim.
@lloydkline6946
@lloydkline6946 Жыл бұрын
1975/1976 Cincinnati red,suer great hitting, pitching don gullet,,,,jack billingham,, tcetc
@staleydu1
@staleydu1 5 ай бұрын
George Foster 1977: .320 BA 149 RBI’s, 52 HR. Might be the best non juiced season the last forty years of the century
@robertmurdock1848
@robertmurdock1848 20 күн бұрын
I do remember many saying the ball was juiced that season , including a couple of segments on the game of the week. Bench's 70 season deserves a mention. And someone whose forgotten, Tommy Davis of the 62 Dodgers. Batting champ .346 , 230 hits , 120 Runs , 152 RBIs , all on only 27 doubles 9 triples 27 dingers.
@johnlevalley521
@johnlevalley521 3 жыл бұрын
I became a Reds fan in June of 1977 with the trade of my favorite player Tom Seaver and the team was striving for their third title in a row. Little did my 7 year old self know at the time that I would have to wait 13 years until 1990 for their next championship. None the less the years 1977 to 1981 were good years but just not good enough to win it all.
@RoundingThird
@RoundingThird 3 жыл бұрын
At the beginning of John Erardi's 1990 Reds book he said Reds fans get one world championship in their youth, one in middle age and one in old age. 2012 was the year that ended that.
@johnlevalley521
@johnlevalley521 3 жыл бұрын
@@RoundingThird Good point. Sure seems like it.
@blitzkriegchile5823
@blitzkriegchile5823 8 ай бұрын
That was a great run by the Cincinnati Reds definitely made their mark in baseball history...
@paulbarron9745
@paulbarron9745 Жыл бұрын
Been a Reds fan my entire life. My Dad was from Ohio and used to watch them at Crosley Field. First game I remember was a WS game against the Yankees that Gullett pitched.
@frankkeyser3570
@frankkeyser3570 Жыл бұрын
PETE ROSE H.O.F
@garycourtier4668
@garycourtier4668 10 ай бұрын
As a lifelong Dodgers fan, my favorite decade was the 70's and the great rivalry with the Big Red Machine. Many younger fans don't know that the teams were division rivals during that time and had some memorable pennant races. My favorite was 1974 when the Dodger's Jimmy Wynn hit a grand slam in late September to hold off the Reds and propel the Dodgers to the World Series.
@PathfinderHistoryTravel
@PathfinderHistoryTravel 4 жыл бұрын
Those were the days
@scooby45247
@scooby45247 2 жыл бұрын
imagine the career Bench would have had given modern medical procedures..
@Jiltedin2007
@Jiltedin2007 2 жыл бұрын
Why can’t today’s Cincinnati Reds go back to wearing these Big Red Machine Uniforms?
@brianselm2257
@brianselm2257 Жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@ShawnC.T.
@ShawnC.T. 3 жыл бұрын
Being frugal (cheap) ruined the "Big Red Machine". The front office didn't want to spend what was needed to keep all the core players together, starting with Tony Perez...
@Colonel__Ingus69
@Colonel__Ingus69 3 жыл бұрын
yep but a lot of people forget the Reds traded Dave Revering and 1.75 million for Vida Blue after the 76 season and Bowie Kuhn voided the deal in the interest of keeping baseball competitive lol.
@Cincinnatus1869
@Cincinnatus1869 3 жыл бұрын
Bob Howsam didn't get on board with free agency and the Reds suffered for it. By 1982 the team was the absolute worst Reds club most people had ever seen.
@Jiltedin2007
@Jiltedin2007 2 жыл бұрын
Is that why Pete Rose went to Philadelphia?
@ShawnC.T.
@ShawnC.T. 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jiltedin2007 Of course, he would've gladly stayed in his hometown and continue playing for the Reds, for the right money...
@Jiltedin2007
@Jiltedin2007 2 жыл бұрын
@@ShawnC.T. The Phillies made the right choice by going after The Key to the Their Very First World Series Championship in 1980.
@garycourtier4668
@garycourtier4668 10 ай бұрын
If I may add one more comment, I agree with a previous comment about the Reds uniforms. Go back to the classic design of the 70's, especially the road grays.
@jackschlachter5239
@jackschlachter5239 3 жыл бұрын
thats the longest description ive ever seen
@Colonel__Ingus69
@Colonel__Ingus69 3 жыл бұрын
I can remember some great pennate races with Dodgers.
@danholmes2369
@danholmes2369 2 жыл бұрын
There ironically never were great pennant races. The Reds or Dodgers won going away in their pennant years.
@MrPocketfullOfSteel
@MrPocketfullOfSteel Жыл бұрын
@@danholmes2369 That wouldn't be necessarily true. Look closer and you'll see that the OP is correct.
@charlesh946
@charlesh946 2 жыл бұрын
32 years...still waitn. ugh
@randywest5149
@randywest5149 Жыл бұрын
Go Cincinnati Reds Go Reds Oldest Baseball ⚾ Team Club Since 1869 Major League Baseball History and Randy West Love ❤5 Reds World 🌎🌍 Series 🏆 Championships in Team History Since 1869 and Randy West Love ❤ Cincinnati Reds Mascots and Randy West Love ❤ Cincinnati Reds Hall of Fame and Museum in Great America Ball Park in Cincinnati, Ohio USA 🇺🇲 and Randy West ❤All Cincinnati Reds Baseball ⚾ Players in Cincinnati Reds Team History Since 1869.
@kevingreen2400
@kevingreen2400 Жыл бұрын
Wagner destroyed the team and McNamara was gone by 82...
@kd6836
@kd6836 Ай бұрын
The Big Red Machine lost its spark plug in the winter of 1976-77. Tony Perez went to Montreal. To talk about the Big Red Machine after that point is iffy but after Rose and Morgan were gone to the Phillies by 1980, no way. They were a great team and the first one I remember as a kid.
@robertmurdock1848
@robertmurdock1848 20 күн бұрын
Driessen has a very similar season to what Perez did in 76, with a better average and more speed. And the offense was just as good overall as the 76 team. Tony's clubhouse presence was missed, but the loss of Don Gullett and Gary Nolan along with the regression of the pitching staff was the main culprit in 77.
@kd6836
@kd6836 20 күн бұрын
@@robertmurdock1848 Understood, but Morgan said when Perez was gone the spark went with him and I agree. Dresden may have had the numbers but he wasn’t clutch. But the Reds did get Woody Fryman.
@robertmurdock1848
@robertmurdock1848 20 күн бұрын
@@kd6836 I'm all for giving Tony all the praise he deserves. But, the Reds did win the division in 79, and a rainout kept them from being tied with the Dodgers during the first half of the 81 strike season. It wasn't until the half the starting lineup was let go after 81 , that they lost their competitiveness. And Joe didn't go to the Phillies when he left , he spent a couple seasons each in Houston and SF before his sole season on Philly's 83 NL Champs season.
@kd6836
@kd6836 20 күн бұрын
I know all that. I watched it all. I agree with Morgan. The machine died. One isolated division win hardly was their former glory. Good conversation
@scooby45247
@scooby45247 2 жыл бұрын
and yet we still love FRANK.. bad decisions and racism cost us everything in 1970.. yes, Brooks destroyed us but Frank on our side would have been enough to win for years..
@docadams7099
@docadams7099 Жыл бұрын
Frank, rightfully angry at the Reds, won the Triple Crown at Baltimore in 1966, and helped that Orioles team to World Championships in 1966 and 1970. He also was in attendance for one of the 1975 WS games in Cincinnati.
@MrPocketfullOfSteel
@MrPocketfullOfSteel Жыл бұрын
I believe that I agree with your take on Robby. Just imagine THAT lineup.👍💪
@donaldzinman2184
@donaldzinman2184 Ай бұрын
It's hard to keep championship teams together for more than a few years. If you want to try, you better be prepared to spend a lot of money.
@charlierichardson9704
@charlierichardson9704 Ай бұрын
I know this story is meant to be about the Reds, BUT this and many other media products usually talk about the big red machine when discussing 1970s baseball. Hardly are the Oakland A's even mentioned with the same enthusiasm. Who beat the Reds in the 70s ??? Who has more World Series wins ???? Who had the most fun and characters ???? -- The great Oakland A's !!!!!
@RoundingThird
@RoundingThird Ай бұрын
Hitting is sexier than pitching?
@charlierichardson9704
@charlierichardson9704 Ай бұрын
@RoundingThird --> Sexiness is in the mind of the beholder !! The escapades and mustachioed A's had more than their fair share of characters: from their elephant and donkey mascots (vs. 2 red socks) to their back-up homerun hitter/catcher/1st baseman (Tenace anyone ??), and the ever interesting Reggie -- injured on the bench or playing.
@11Stucat
@11Stucat 2 жыл бұрын
the 80's were not all that good. Take away the 81 season when they had the best record but failed to get in the playoffs due to that stupid split decision. Mid 80's were awful until Pete came back and started hat string of 2nd place finishes, then in 89 we know what happened to Pete... 1990 though Wire to Wire with Sweet Lou at the helm.
@garryharris3777
@garryharris3777 3 жыл бұрын
The weakest link on those teams was its Manager, Sparky Anderson. He didn't like to use young players who weren't already established (Ken Griffey the exception) and platooned both Dave Concepcion and George Foster with inferior players their first 5 seasons with the team. I feel Sparky unnecessarily held them back from eventual HOF. The first two seasons Anderson managed, the Reds had several starting pitchers he completely misused. For any other manager, Gary Nolan, Don Gullett, Ross Grimsley, Milt Wilcox and Wayne Simpson would be a great rotation. The Big Red Machine didn't collapse in 1977 when they traded away Tony Perez, Captain Hook's mismanagement of the pitching staff was exposed.
@RoundingThird
@RoundingThird 3 жыл бұрын
I would say you probably have a good case with the pitching but I disagree about the hitters. You had 1970 ROY Carbo in the mix until early '72. You had Tolan, Rose and Geronimo's arm and defense. Tolan's comeback in '72 earned him something in '73. Also consider, Hal McCrae. Davey hit .207 over 350 AB/year in '71 and '72. Davey was the full time SS in '73 and hit .287 until his season ended on July 22. From then on he was THE shortstop. Also consider, all of his replacements hit anywhere from 30-50 points higher than him. Foster hit .250 until his 7th game of '72 and never got there again that year. So basically you're down to Griffey and Foster platooning the Reds to 98 wins in '74. I'm sure you can find a game or three where one of them went 0 for whatever and assume the other guy would have won the game and the division. But that's any season for about any team. I guess an argument could be made that Pete should have moved to 3rd earlier but again, 98 wins. Also consider, Dan Driessen. Nobody can look at Foster's minor league numbers and and think he was a future triple crown threat. In '73 and '74 Griffey had a .994 OPS in the minors and .920 in the majors. Everywhere he went for 3 1/2 years he hit .330. His minor league numbers, speed and defense blow away any of his colleagues. So while not proven, he was proven worthy of an extra hard look. A lot of Reds fans think Edwin Encarnacion would have done what he did had he stayed in Cincy. Sometimes going through some adversity is what makes you triple crown threat. But with the pitching, I'll just say a lot of starters weren't fans and a lot of relievers had short careers. But, Sparky was innovating... Maybe getting Seaver and giving up the depth Sparky relied on so heavily was what hurt? If only Soto was a couple years older. EDIT: The pitching coach Larry Shepard also may deserve some credit for getting a little more out of some of these pitchers. I mean, 179-84 over 13 minor league seasons. 4 straight 21 win seasons and not a day in the majors. That guy knew something about pitching. I never looked up his numbers until I read an article from 75 or 76 where someone with 1 good year was mad he was going to the minors and told Shepard of all people that he had proven all he had to prove. Again, 4 straight 21+ win seasons, not a day in the majors. www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=shepar001law
@garryharris3777
@garryharris3777 3 жыл бұрын
@@RoundingThird Hal McRae was the Reds 2B of the future until he was injured in 1969 (or thereabout). In 1970, Sparky Anderson is a rookie Manager. CF Bobby Tolan and RF Pete Rose were full time. The LF platoon of rookies Bernie Carbo and McRae was exceptional. In 1971, RF Rose was full time. The LF platoon imploded. Carbo couldn't hit and McRae's couldn't defend. CF Bobby Tolan was out for the season. In CF, the Reds tried McRae then Ty Cline then Buddy Bradford then acquired George Foster from the Giants. Days later, Foster won the CF job for the remainder of the season. In 1972, Rose switched to LF. Cesar Geronimo was acquired from the Astros as insurance for CF Tolan. As it turned out, CF Tolan was exceptional. RF was often manned by Cesar Geronimo but here Sparky was more whimsy than innovating. McRae and last year's CF Foster are primarily used to PH. In 1973, LF is Pete Rose. CF is shared by Tolan and Geronimo who don't hit. The Reds traded two damaged players McRae and P Wayne Simpson to the Royals for two damaged players RF Richie Scheinblum (Beaned) and P Roger Nelson (Royals first ever roster player). Scheinblum is a bust. Late in the season, Ken Griffey, one of the fastest players in MLB at that point, began to emerge. Ultimately, RF is an 11 player debacle. Foster is a PH. In 1974, LF is Rose. CF and RF is a two-position over-manageed platoon of Geronimo, Griffey, Foster and Merv Rettenmund (acquired from the Os because Sparky personally disliked Ross Grimsley). In 1975, LF is Rose. CF is a Geronimo - Foster platoon and RF is a Griffey - Rettenmund platoon. The Reds are .500 the first 25 games. The Reds' front office has expressed concern with Sparky's decisions as well as that his "doghouse" was effecting the way he ran the team. Shortly after, Sparky came up with the idea and asks Rose to play 3B. Five games later, the Big Red Machine is perfect. I making a very long point. Sparky held George Foster back. Foster was a good defender and ran the bases well. His negatives were that he was RH (Sparky over valued mediocre LH hitters over good RH hitters) and SO some.
@mysterj1
@mysterj1 3 жыл бұрын
@@garryharris3777 very good analysis. I had to think back on some of those lineups. Especially interesting take on Rettenmund. I wondered why he ended up In that deal.
@Colonel__Ingus69
@Colonel__Ingus69 3 жыл бұрын
ouch, I believe Sparky did an outstanding job managing the egos of the big four (Rose, Bench, Morgan and Perez). Morgan went from attitude problem with the Astros to the GOAT at 2nd base. Sparky was ahead of his time using the bullpen to hide a weak pitching staff. As long as the pitchers didn't walk batters they were going to win (till the playoffs). I think Fred Norman topped out about 65 mph. I'm not old enough to comment on the 1970 pitching staff. lol He also hid the weaknesses of those young hitters. Griffey could have stolen 100 bases a year but Morgan said it distracted him at the plate when Griffey stole so he had the red light. I also remember Griffey as always injured. I didn't think Sparky was a great manager till after the 84 Tigers and the fact he had them in the pennate races into the 90's. Sparky may not have been the smartest guy ever but he knew baseball as well as anyone.
@lloydkline6946
@lloydkline6946 3 жыл бұрын
Really, I though pitching was their weakness, , Cincinnati red greatest hitting team before free agents started, greatest baseball ⚾️hitting lineup ever, sparky Anderson was called captain hook, ❤ take pitchers out earlier, ❤facing right handed pitcher with lefty hitters & opposite too
@SoloShelby
@SoloShelby 2 жыл бұрын
Matthew 6:33 but seek ye first the kingdom of God
@MrPocketfullOfSteel
@MrPocketfullOfSteel Жыл бұрын
AMEN AMEN.👍👊
@ronaldrollins1558
@ronaldrollins1558 Ай бұрын
Reds barely beat Red Sox A's handled Reds in 7 without their best player winning 3 of 4 in Cinncinati .
@xerxese191
@xerxese191 9 ай бұрын
Pete Rose was the HEART and SOUL of this team. He made the Phillies GREAT as well, but for some reason he isn't in the Hall of Fame. The business people ruined baseball as they ruin EVERYTHING they get their paws on. I no longer watch baseball and refuse to until Pete is in the Hall of Fame. How can you have a place that honors the BEST BASEBALL PLAYERS but the BEST one isn't there? A DISGRACE. 😣
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