+Bob Silver/// he mighta been scared though LOL

This series ran during the magical muscle car years 1968-1974. They cut the series at just the right time when the abysmal dark ages started in 1974.

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I was just thinking the same thing! "He had a great job."

PotatoGunsRule just saw a 71 442 black convertible reminded of this video

Schön That's with tires smoking halfway down the track!

You know that a Toyota Camry V6 2017 do that in about the same Time...

Francis Lévesque shifting stick and having the thrill of a v8 with old steel? No, you get a shitty A to B car.

And that is on those old shitty tires, some modern rubber would make a big difference.

Francis Lévesque Yes but the 2017 Camry is a very delicate car. A falling twig will dent it. This car was built like a tank.

right

Lmao😂 hell yeah

Aaron Fink Yeah, nowadays a good handling car has numb electric steering and intrusive active stability control that makes driving feel more disconnected than ever. just because modern cars can go faster doesnt mean they are more fun to drive, they are not. besides every drift enhusiast basicaly makes thier car into an old musclecar lol

Seeing this slide around the track reminds me....big cars can handle - somewhat. In the late 90's i bought a chevy caprice 9C1. Pulled the tired engine and swapped a vortech 350 with under 70k on it in the car. Rebuilt the rear end, lowering springs front and rear, koni shocks front and rear, new poly bushings all around that i could change out. Tubular lower a arms & ball joints. Rebuilt 700R4 and a comp cams 262h cam. springs and rockers and lifters - rollers. Did a few more things but for around $1,600 it was fast and handled well for a lead sled 4,400 lbs. With 3:42 gears if i could not get ya off the line wait for 3rd gear and it's over. Unless it's hot or a big block. Not too bad for a cruise ship on wheels.

Very well said!

1/4 mile times have very little to do with how fun a car is to drive. This car would put you WAY back in the seat at 2000 RPM.

It also handled VERY well considering the tires..That 442 stayed pretty damn flat in those turns.

I had a 1970 Pontiac Bonneville with the 360HP and 500ft/lb 455 cubic inch engine. In normal driving the aftermarket tach never saw 2000 RPM unless you were on the freeway. What I remember was the idle being so low that the engine didn't typically pull the car along at idle. In fact, the engine idled at 500RPM with the A/C on. On a hill, if you let off the brake pedal, it would roll backwards. Just loafing really.

@@bechtoea if you lived in an area with steep hills you could speed up the Idle with the turn of a screw if you wanted to.

And out of that number. How many of them W-30?

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DMR67442 Ok.

This may have been 10 years ago, but that number only applies to the X code W-30s, not the 71 W-30.

Wow

Corners very flat for the time. Maybe not for today, but for back then, very flat cornering for the time.

Rabid progressives are now the embodiment of the Democratic Party....they're now forcing us off gasoline artificially by manipulating supply and massive tax increases.

I doubt they'd have a 455. 7.5 Liter engines aren't very common today. They would most likely be using an LS engine like every other V8 GM car.

Marc Smith Olds was building Hemi and DOHC 455's back then. The EPA killed them.

john robert I thought it was Pontiac who had the SOHC and DOHC experimental engines?

Olds had the W-43 455 with DOHC & 700 HP 45 years ago.Pontiac might have had a similar engine, but I don't know for sure.

Marc Smith If it werent for the stupid GM racing ban the olds. 455 would have been DOHC by 1971. in that universe though, the modern 442 would likely be a much smaller engine the gas crisis still would have happened

David Reed yeah but wasnt drifting a import car thing? most just draged raced American cars not that American cars couldn't do that which they can but have tougher times taking corners than imports

@@chargermaster3676 its just all of that 30 years worth of innovations at the time, i mean look at today, american sport cars can go toe to toe with their european and their japanese counterparts just fine and to hammer in that point vaughn jr deafeted the japanese at their own game (drifting) using a mustang to win it

That was Bud's son and he could definately wheel that vehicle

Back in the day they called it a “4 wheel drift” - took the marketing guys to come up with just “drifting.”

I agree. Channel that power to modern day independent rear suspension and modern performance tires of today and that 7.3 probably becomes 6.3 on 0-70, which is probably 5.3-5.4 on 0-60. Definitely quick stuff.

@@Bridging_the_Political_Divide exactly, that's on bias-ply tires.

1971 power was down too....compression had been dropped a lot.

Yeah, but you have an olds, thats what matters! Looking at a 71 442 clone right now

I had a 72 Cutlass with a 350 rocket while in high school, my step dad paid $200 for the thing (this would be 1992) from some guy who had it sitting in his backyard, with the windows down, for 7 years. Anywho after feeding it some gas it started right up. We paid $25 for 4 tires, installed - then I spent about 3 days cleaning out the inside of leafs, it was disgusting. The first night I took the car out all the belts broke, so that was like another $20 - and that was it, the car was up and fully running for the year or so I had it. The thing was sort of a death trap however, whenever you turned left it would turn off, the ignition stopped worked so I ended up just having to put the key in, then taking two big wires under the steering wheel and tapping them together, sparks and all to start it, the carb was acting up so me and friend took it a part to rebuild it, which was unsuccessful - so I just stuck a piece of cardboard in the carb so it was wide open all the time. It had so much rust everywhere when driving on a dirt road the inside of the car would fill with dust, and there was a rust whole so big in the trunk you could pass a basketball through it - so that was like another $10 to fix, which was getting some bondo. Of course nothing like the air conditioning worked, or the radio, so I had to install a new radio I think I got for free from a junk yard and then I had a 6x9 directly wired to it that sat on its magnet stuck to the floor. Oh and then one day it wouldn't start, so I kept trying to get it to turn over, again and again, and BOOOOM!!!!!!!!! A giant fireball shot out from under the car and then, wow, the car sounded incredible, like I had the best muffler ever on it. Looking under the car the muffler had blown open and banana peeled out - and it was a huge performance and audio bonus, although it was fairly loud, it was the good rumble loud, not the high pitched or glasspack garbage, just all bass. So with all that said it was a pretty awesome car. With the lack of any muffler to really get in the way of performance and a wide open carb all the time, the car had fantastic acceleration and me and my friend who had a 1972 Chevelle with a 350, but with a 4-barrel compared to my 2-barrel, we'd race all the time on backroads like it was a Dukes of Hazzard episode and my spec'd up Cutlass was just a hair quicker than his Chevelle, which was actually in fairly good shape. We'd race side by side on dirt roads doing 120 or so and even ran from the cops a few times. I had to sell my Cutlass when I went to college since I needed a car that wouldn't cutoff at every lefthand turn in the city and a car you could drive in the rain without wrecking it and since it was about a 60-mile roundtrip drive everyday I needed something that got better than 6mpg (that's what I actually got). So I went from the highlife of a great American V8 to a Hyundai Excel with like 76hp. What a disaster that was.

@@rodmunch69 Loved this read, thanks for the good story :)

I liked the look of the 67 Cutlass better. Sure it didn't offer as much power as the next few model years, but the 1966-67 A body Olds was the style of intermediate muscle car I liked best.

I'll tell you what, here's a deal for you. I win the lotto or otherwise have enough spare cash to find and buy myself two 1971 442 W 30's and I'll buy the two and give one to you.. You have that much cash and you do the same for me. Those that know me, know I keep my word, even to complete strangers. What do you say?

Dude you got a fucking deal! =]

Kinda hard to lose on that one, right? :)

PotatoGunsRule I accept your challenge sir and would do the same for you. Oldsmobile Lovers Drive Smoothly

NO ONE THRESHOLD BRAKES IN A PANIC. If they did there wouldn't be a such thing as ABS, when 90% of people panic they just slam on the brakes and drag the tires. They did it then and they do it now, that's why they test how long it will take the car to stop with the wheels locked up.

Jim learned it from Bob Bondurant.He went to his racing school before he made the movie Grand Prix

Actually, you are wrong. The movie came out in 1966 and he didn't start his school until he retired in 1968.

Jim also did the movie Winning also. I believe it was in 67.

Winning came out 5/22/69

Id like to see this fucker run 0-60 with modern radials or better yet, drag radials. Probably could do under 5 seconds. And that's with an 8.5 compression ratio.

wrotenwasp The 8.5 compression ratio actually made it better didnt lose too much power and you can run it on regular

imagine junk 87 & it runs like a charm!

7.3 for a 70 mph run is still fast.

@@Hot80s In 1971, regular gas was 95 octane.

Doobie1975 its still a decent performer by today's standards...just not fast anymore, a rocket then though. Its crazy to think that this w30 would get its doors handed to it by most modern 4cyl sedans nowadays. I still would rather have this.

twoeightythreez Uh, no it wouldn't Turbo'd AWD STi and Evo off the line maybe, but after that it's all over. Not most 4 cylinder sedans. That's preposterous.

1971 was still a decent year and the last good year before the dark ages began in 1972. This car is the Holy Grail of Olds muscle cars. Worth a fortune today.

Indeed! And that's even on old style tyres! With modern tyres it will grip even more!

I agree on some terms. I've got a 70 Charger 383 and a 71 Satellite Sebring 383, my Charger would make 335 stock HP while my 71 would only make 300 stock HP. But nevertheless: both are still champions. It was 72 but most definitely 73-74 (oil crisis) that sadly: killed the muscle car.

Tim Holmes It still did 0-70 in 7 seconds not bad for 1971 especially considering those eeny beeny tires

The comment was in the context of cars of its day. When you consider it's a 3,600+ lb weight, it actually did quite well at the speeds & maneuvering through the solemn test.

Yep

W-30 meant a factory balanced and blue printed engine from the factory w-30 was also used on the 400cid that came before the 455. It had high flowing heads, long duration, high lift camshaft amongst other stuff the w-25 ram air hood.