1978-79 Short-Lived TV Shows

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Robert'sRetroRewind

Robert'sRetroRewind

2 ай бұрын

This video is a compilation of most of the shows that were new, and (quickly) cancelled -
or not renewed - from the 1978-79 prime time TV schedule. Please note, I don't always use the TV shows intro. Some of them aren't permitted, or they aren't available (not in circulation). There were a few shows that didn't have much other than a few photos to work with.
This follows the days of the week, and the specific time slot that these shows would have fallen on. Not to mention, the shows that they were up against that were playing on the other networks.
I'd like to thank:
- Chuck D's All-New Classic TV Clubhouse - Free Country/Jackie & Darlene Promo
- David Gideon (various intros/outros)
- Bionic Disco (various commercials)
- Gen X TV Memories (various commercials)
- RwDt09 (hours of enjoyment)
- The Museum of Classic Chicago Television (episodes/promos/commercials)
- The Retro Depot (various commercials)
- robatsea2009 (various commercials)
- momentbymoment78 (Susan Anton clips)
- Chuck D's All-New Classic TV Clubhouse (various commercials)
I also used the song "Lobby Time" by Kevin MacLeod (royalty free music).
For information, I generally refer to:
- IMDB
- Wikipedia
- The Complete Directory to Prime Time Network and Cable TV Shows (Seventh Edition)
#supertrain #timeexpress #cliffhangers #susananton #davidnaughton

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@TheTempleOfBoom
@TheTempleOfBoom 2 ай бұрын
So many great memories of shows I never watched .
@elldre3
@elldre3 2 ай бұрын
I watched 'Mary' a couple of times. I remember the first episode featuring 'The Lou Grant Dancers' in which a chorus line of burly ('No, Mary, FAT people like me are supposed to be jolly all the time!!!') men in sleeves-rolled up white shirts and black pants sashay out and a boogie to pre-recorded KC and the Sunshine Band dance track. It was a funny concept, though Mary herself kinda ruined it by sashaying out in front in black-tie formal with a black top hat (though the skirt shown off her incredible legs in black stockings) and being twirled around by one of the dancers during the routine. But she won it all back in the monologue to the audience afterwards in which she claimed that Ed Asner's reply to her request for him to be a guest on her first show was, "'Mary, I can buy and sell you right now." Priceless, indeed.
@user-tp6fo7im3d
@user-tp6fo7im3d 2 ай бұрын
I was ADDICTED to Cliffhangers! One night I tuned it on and there was some special on instead. It never came back and left two unresolved plotlines.
@fromthesidelines
@fromthesidelines 2 ай бұрын
Just another example of Fred Silverman literally throwing new shows on NBC's schedule to see if they "stuck to the wall". Most of them didn't.......and he yanked them off as fast as possible to make way for other "hopeful" series. "CLIFFHANGERS" was one of them, resolved or not.
@peternighswander9629
@peternighswander9629 2 ай бұрын
Vincent Price was so wonderful. He did everything. No matter how bad the material, he made it work.
@fromthesidelines
@fromthesidelines 2 ай бұрын
His commercials were just as great!
@steelers6titles
@steelers6titles 2 ай бұрын
He was in "The Whales of August", which starred two Hollywood legends, Lillian Gish and Bette Davis.
@jesper856
@jesper856 2 ай бұрын
Boy I forgot how many stinkers there were in the 1978-1979 season...i noticed there were alot of saturday night fever and animal house type shows. I enjoy watching your videos...brings back fond memories.
@robertsretrorewind5853
@robertsretrorewind5853 2 ай бұрын
I appreciate that Jesper, thank you!
@peternighswander9629
@peternighswander9629 2 ай бұрын
I thought maybe there was a writers strike but apparently not. At least that would explain it
@donaldpaluga
@donaldpaluga 2 ай бұрын
If there's gonna be a Fall Guy for the demise of Co-Ed Fever it would be Jack Parkman😏
@steelers6titles
@steelers6titles 2 ай бұрын
"Supertrain", hyped by Fred Silverman, is legendary in TV-flop history.
@donaldpaluga
@donaldpaluga 2 ай бұрын
A SUPERTRAINwreck, if you will😏
@brinsonharris9816
@brinsonharris9816 Ай бұрын
Hey, let’s do Love Boat on a train. A really BIG train! Can’t miss!
@steelers6titles
@steelers6titles 2 ай бұрын
Producers tried, and tried, and tried, to promote Susan Anton. They paired her with Mel Tillis. They gave her her own action series. She got her own variety show. But she never made it really big.
@GeminiladyJackson-xq6hc
@GeminiladyJackson-xq6hc 2 ай бұрын
Susan Anton dated Sylvester Stallone and Dudley Moore.
@seanswinton6242
@seanswinton6242 2 ай бұрын
I remember Susan Anton also the Muriel mini-cigar commercials. "Where there's Muriel smoke, there's fire."🔥🎵
@steelers6titles
@steelers6titles 2 ай бұрын
@@seanswinton6242 She was indeed pretty hot.
@PhancyPants99
@PhancyPants99 Ай бұрын
She also did a lot of commercials including ones for Serta Perfect sleeper mattresses in which she sang their dumb jingle
@itiswhatitaintanditaintwha1427
@itiswhatitaintanditaintwha1427 2 ай бұрын
"I'll be taking a keen interest in your activities!" Brother,you were the only one!
@thomasrose7713
@thomasrose7713 2 ай бұрын
I have really been enjoying this series quite the time tunnel! Clearly, a lot of digging to pull all of these clips commercials and ratings together. Thank you for the hard work.
@robertsretrorewind5853
@robertsretrorewind5853 2 ай бұрын
I greatly appreciate that Thomas! Thank you for watching!
@mrguystarr
@mrguystarr 2 ай бұрын
I recall Friends and Delta House since I was mainly an ABC viewer as a kid. Excellent compilation.
@robertsretrorewind5853
@robertsretrorewind5853 2 ай бұрын
I appreciate reading that! Thank you!
@pooddescrewch8718
@pooddescrewch8718 2 ай бұрын
I think I might have liked Friends . I was that age , about 10 . Unfortunately the youngest in the house . So I never got the opportunity
@recordman64
@recordman64 2 ай бұрын
There was actually a 45 release of the Delta House theme, and I bought it! I'm probably one of the few who did.
@robertsretrorewind5853
@robertsretrorewind5853 2 ай бұрын
@@recordman64 That's pretty cool.
@dace938
@dace938 2 ай бұрын
I LOVE these. I so remember and you feed that memory. Thank you. Bravo
@robertsretrorewind5853
@robertsretrorewind5853 2 ай бұрын
Awesome! Thank you for that!
@JustGrammy1234
@JustGrammy1234 2 ай бұрын
Back in the day, when tv shut down at midnight.
@timbrown8038
@timbrown8038 Ай бұрын
Carl doesn't want hamburger helper. Just biscuits and mustard.
@alsmith7382
@alsmith7382 2 ай бұрын
Married the first year intro lasted longer than the actual show did ...
@GeminiladyJackson-xq6hc
@GeminiladyJackson-xq6hc 2 ай бұрын
You're so funny 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@alsmith7382
@alsmith7382 2 ай бұрын
@@GeminiladyJackson-xq6hc TY!
@GeminiladyJackson-xq6hc
@GeminiladyJackson-xq6hc 2 ай бұрын
​@@alsmith7382You did the impossible. You made me laugh.
@steelers6titles
@steelers6titles 2 ай бұрын
Big box-office hits caused producers to try to cash in with similar material on the small screen. "Saturday Night Fever"--"Flatbush", "Makin' It". "Animal House"--"Co-Ed Fever", "Brothers & Sisters", and the softened TV follow-up to the original movie, "Delta House". And so on. The big-screen magic didn't transfer to the boob tube.
@anthonybrooks5040
@anthonybrooks5040 2 ай бұрын
I barely recall "Cliffhangers", a time when NBC's ratings were low and far removed from ten years earlier. Gotta love on this promo the great disembodied voice, Don Pardo! I always remember him doing "Saturday Night Live" and with Art Fleming on the original "Jeopardy". "Aaarrrt...."
@donaldpaluga
@donaldpaluga 2 ай бұрын
We GOTTA make Susan Anton a star!
@Gunner192
@Gunner192 2 ай бұрын
I watched it a couple times and really tried to like it. The only segment that wasn't painful to watch (and I was about 10 at the time) was Dracula.
@seanswinton6242
@seanswinton6242 2 ай бұрын
​@Gunner192 True. It starred Michaell Nouri as Dracula. We would see him in "Flashdance" later. Locally, the Dracula segment was broken away from the series and aired separately until its conclusion.
@scottlarson1548
@scottlarson1548 Ай бұрын
"Cliffhangers" is the *only* one I remember because the Dracula segment was actually pretty good and Michael Nouri played a smart, arrogant and sexy vampire who always outsmarted the guy who was pursuing him.
@mikematusek4233
@mikematusek4233 2 ай бұрын
This was my senior year in high school, so sadly there wasn't the time for a lot of TV, and a lot stunk.
@pooddescrewch8718
@pooddescrewch8718 2 ай бұрын
I was just 10 years old and beginning to figure the world out. This was a confusing era . 79 was where the seventies , my whole life practically , went to die and The 80’s were concieved .
@denisceballos9745
@denisceballos9745 2 ай бұрын
Geez, drawing a blank on these. Supertrain looked like a blockbuster with that snappy disco intro. I checked and, yes, Robert Alda was Alan’s dad.
@steelers6titles
@steelers6titles 2 ай бұрын
Mary's show could have been titled "I'm Not Carol Burnett, But Watch Anyway, Please".
@RideAcrossTheRiver
@RideAcrossTheRiver 19 күн бұрын
Did I see David Letterman in that intro?
@jeffreysantner3717
@jeffreysantner3717 2 ай бұрын
Listening to a doll baby's heartbeat, priceless.... I've thrown those dolls in the dumpster already when I worked at Goodwill.
@Quartzquiz333
@Quartzquiz333 2 ай бұрын
Four shows from this season (Apple Pie, The Waverly Wonders, Mary and Co-Ed Fever) lasted three episodes or less. Pitiful!
@steelers6titles
@steelers6titles 2 ай бұрын
Margaret Hamilton, who loved children, went on Mister Rogers Neighborhood in her witche's costume to show kids that it was all right to pretend. She took the fact that she had frightened young people so badly very seriously.
@robertsretrorewind5853
@robertsretrorewind5853 2 ай бұрын
The episode of her appearing on Sesame Street (in the witch costume) has been up on KZfaq for some time now, if anyone was curious. I'd heard about it for years, similar to how people had heard of the "Star Wars Holiday Special", and thought that it was made up because it came and went so quickly.
@dace938
@dace938 2 ай бұрын
57:20 Thank you Don Pardo !! Also, all the sitcoms, all the police-type shows all seem the same. Finnaly, love how you tease us with commercial (Lionel trains) bumpers.
@robertsretrorewind5853
@robertsretrorewind5853 2 ай бұрын
Thank you! There's no way that I wasn't going to include a Lionel commercial in that spot.
@anthonybrooks5040
@anthonybrooks5040 2 ай бұрын
​@@robertsretrorewind5853YAAAYYY! LONG LIVE LIONEL TRAINS!!!
@STI2000
@STI2000 2 ай бұрын
There were three shows that season hoping to cash in on the popularity of the movie Animal House. Co-Ed Fever, Brothers and Sisters and Delta House.
@scottlarson1548
@scottlarson1548 Ай бұрын
"Delta House" got three stars from the movie and they hired future director and National Lampoon writer John Hughes to write some episodes. It seemed promising and the fall out shelter episode was pretty funny.
@Rockhound6165
@Rockhound6165 2 ай бұрын
I was a teenager by this time and never heard of any of these shows.
@steelers6titles
@steelers6titles 2 ай бұрын
"Turnabout" had been a movie released in 1940, with Carole Landis and Adolphe Menjou. It was based on the 1931 novel by Thorne Smith, of "Topper" fame.
@MsGail61
@MsGail61 2 ай бұрын
I was a senior in high school that year, so I was either doing homework or watching shows that were popular. However I did seek out the DVD of David Cassidy Man Undercover after he passed.
@robertsretrorewind5853
@robertsretrorewind5853 2 ай бұрын
I think that's pretty cool Gail. I have the episodes (they're usually up on this platform), but I would like someone to make copies that are of higher quality; like an official DVD release.
@MsGail61
@MsGail61 2 ай бұрын
@@robertsretrorewind5853 My DVD came from Europe and has the grainy appearance of a copied VHS tape. I wish there was a pristine copy out there.
@robertsretrorewind5853
@robertsretrorewind5853 2 ай бұрын
@@MsGail61 Same. Sadly, I think it's just you and I (and maybe a couple of other people) in the comment section that like the show. I thought that David Cassidy was really good in the Police Story (pilot) episode, in particular. I had a new level of appreciation for him, for his performance in that one.
@martincaidin4166
@martincaidin4166 2 ай бұрын
Bill Daily was a navigator on two different shows? Talk about being typecast.
@donaldpaluga
@donaldpaluga 2 ай бұрын
Hope that Connie Selleca finds a job real soon 😏
@visaman
@visaman 2 ай бұрын
And an astronaut on I Dream Of Jeanie
@GeminiladyJackson-xq6hc
@GeminiladyJackson-xq6hc 2 ай бұрын
​@@visamanBill Daily was much funnier on The Bob Newhart Show.
@Quartzquiz333
@Quartzquiz333 2 ай бұрын
Hello, Larry deserves an honorary mention. The only reason it was renewed was because NBC needed a negotiation chip against Johnny Carson. Hell, it tied for Supertrain in the ratings!
@robertsretrorewind5853
@robertsretrorewind5853 2 ай бұрын
That's going to be part of a separate video, something along the lines of shows that only lasted 2 seasons.
@anthonybrooks5040
@anthonybrooks5040 2 ай бұрын
​@@robertsretrorewind5853really amazing that both series had second seasons considering they're known as super duds.
@Quartzquiz333
@Quartzquiz333 2 ай бұрын
​@@anthonybrooks5040Supertrain only got one season...it just SEEMED like two.
@anthonybrooks5040
@anthonybrooks5040 2 ай бұрын
@@Quartzquiz333 😆😆😆😆
@kidfrombrooklyn66
@kidfrombrooklyn66 2 ай бұрын
@@Quartzquiz333 SUPERTRAIN ran several episodes - went into hiatus for a cast change & returned a few weeks later for a second chance - but - STILLED FLOPPED !
@Quartzquiz333
@Quartzquiz333 2 ай бұрын
The fact that this video is almost an hour is a testament of how godawful this season was.
@robertsretrorewind5853
@robertsretrorewind5853 2 ай бұрын
On that note, it's also because of that, it's probably the most interesting season to cover.
@Quartzquiz333
@Quartzquiz333 2 ай бұрын
Very true! It was kinda cool looking back and seeing what network executives tried to make stick that year!
@gregoryfarshtey6856
@gregoryfarshtey6856 2 ай бұрын
And yet someone will post about how much better TV was then than now.
@Quartzquiz333
@Quartzquiz333 2 ай бұрын
@gregoryfarshtey6856 Rose-colored glasses. People from the 1950s would've looked at 1970s t.v. in horror.
@fromthesidelines
@fromthesidelines 2 ай бұрын
Yes- and some of them would have wondered, "What happened to all the Westerns?" By 1959, there were 31 weekly Western programs on all three networks. And almost as many game and "big money" quiz shows {that is, until several of them were found to be "rigged", and almost all of them disappeared- except for panel shows and games that didn't require a top prize of $64,000 or more}.
@mackermaldrill2656
@mackermaldrill2656 2 ай бұрын
The horror of these shows had me wishing for Friday to come sooner rather than later.
@stevec.1474
@stevec.1474 2 ай бұрын
It's fascinating because these are not just shows that did not make it but absolute death of many careers, writers, showrunners, actors. Norman Lear ,Grant Tinker, etc. are 'icons' but I'd forgotten their dismal failures and false starts. And so many actors cast in these shows are complete nobodies. It seems like for many these shows were their first and last shot at a career. Were they weak, bland actors or were some talented victims of weak material? Kind of sad.
@GeminiladyJackson-xq6hc
@GeminiladyJackson-xq6hc 2 ай бұрын
Viewers are very fickle. They'll like a celebrity or a TV show for a little while and then move on to something new.
@johnjones3813
@johnjones3813 2 ай бұрын
Ya, like those guys in Flatbush. Who are they?
@Gonner453
@Gonner453 2 ай бұрын
And you have to remember some of these shows were just either midseason replacement shows or season replacements while shows were on hiatus
@recordman64
@recordman64 2 ай бұрын
@@johnjones3813 One of the Flatbush guys was Adrian Zmed., later William Shatner's co-star in T.J. Hooker.
@fromthesidelines
@fromthesidelines 2 ай бұрын
Vincent Buffano later co-starred with Joe Don Baker on "EISCHIED", another Silverman series (and an attempt to make Baker another "KOJAK", with a pet cat instead of a lollipop) that lasted 13 episodes on NBC in the 1979-'80 season. He didn't have much of a TV career after that.
@peterharris2531
@peterharris2531 2 ай бұрын
Sword of Justice actually aired in FIVE time slots in 13 original episodes. The premiere was a two-hour Sunday Big Event; the n a two-hour Saturday movie, then a Thursday episode in the canceled W.E.B.'s time slot, then three more episodes on Saturday night, three more on Sundays (December 17, 24 and 31), and a last two-hour movie on Wednesday, July 11, 1979.
@fromthesidelines
@fromthesidelines 2 ай бұрын
Oh, Silverman TRIED to make that a success. However, instead of applying "smelling salts", he gave it "chloroform".
@robertsretrorewind5853
@robertsretrorewind5853 2 ай бұрын
Ouch, that's too bad. I really like the episode "Blackjack", and have tried a few times to get the entire run; which I'm sure isn't available. The only place (DVD Planet Store) that's selling most of the episodes (they claim to have 9 of them), have not once returned any of my inquiries.
@steelers6titles
@steelers6titles 2 ай бұрын
I fondly remember Darleen Carr. Her sister, Charmian, was in "The Sound of Music".
@robertsretrorewind5853
@robertsretrorewind5853 2 ай бұрын
Same here. She looks great specifically, in that 2nd season of "The Smith Family" and when she played Karl Malden's daughter on "The Streets of San Francisco".
@steelers6titles
@steelers6titles 2 ай бұрын
@@robertsretrorewind5853 Yeah, she was on “The Smith Family”’ with Henry Fonda and Ron Howard.
@tomloft2000
@tomloft2000 2 ай бұрын
I'm glad i didn't have to pick between her and Diana Canova because I would have taken both.
@davanmani556
@davanmani556 2 ай бұрын
Her husband is Jameson Parker of Simon & Simon fame.
@robertsretrorewind5853
@robertsretrorewind5853 2 ай бұрын
@@davanmani556 I appreciate you pointing that out! It's funny, I read (on Wikipedia before) that they were either separated, or divorced (one of the two) since 2020, but there's no mention of it again. That's nice to hear that their relationship is okay!
@peterharris2531
@peterharris2531 2 ай бұрын
Supertrain spent a zillion dollars on the train, and about 10 bucks per script.
@fromthesidelines
@fromthesidelines 2 ай бұрын
The scripts were written rather quickly, as the series was literally rushed to the screen. According to Sally Bedell Smith in "Up the Tube", "[Producer Dan Curtis] and his writers stole from film classics such as 'The Prisoner of Zenda' and "Strangers on a Train' to prop up their stories."
@luisreyes1963
@luisreyes1963 2 ай бұрын
And they paid $6.50 too much for the scripts. 😆
@fromthesidelines
@fromthesidelines 2 ай бұрын
Yes. Among the series' writers were Shimon Wincelberg, veteran writer and Broadway playwright {he collaborated with Irwin Allen on the original "LOST IN SPACE" pilot episode, and the first five episodes of the series, and wrote an episode of "STAR TREK" on the side) and Stephen Kandel, a veteran mystery and TV script writer {he also wrote the "Harry Mudd" episodes of "STAR TREK"}. They must have been desperate for those $10 a pop scripts. 😉
@donaldpaluga
@donaldpaluga 2 ай бұрын
At least Bob Stewart recycled the theme song for Chain Reaction
@user-tp6fo7im3d
@user-tp6fo7im3d 2 ай бұрын
And the show was so boring! I couldn't get through the first episode.
@ForeignerFan74
@ForeignerFan74 2 ай бұрын
Thanks For Sharing!
@robertsretrorewind5853
@robertsretrorewind5853 2 ай бұрын
👌👍Thank you for watching!
@waynechapman9823
@waynechapman9823 2 ай бұрын
"Married: The First Year" . . . annulled after only four episodes!
@cbalducc
@cbalducc 2 ай бұрын
I think Mary Tyler Moore was at a loss after her hit series was canceled. She was 40 and couldn’t credibly play a single career woman anymore. She was also drinking heavily at this time. That might have affected her judgement.
@BushcraftingBogan
@BushcraftingBogan 2 ай бұрын
When your shows theme tries to rhyme "quarter" with "daughter" you know youre doomed. 😂
@johnjones3813
@johnjones3813 2 ай бұрын
I'm glad I'm not only one who noticed that. Songwriter just gave up.
@Quartzquiz333
@Quartzquiz333 2 ай бұрын
Not only that, they managed to find a singer who's voice perfectly set off gag reflexes. It's like they TRIED to write the worst theme song of all time!
@BushcraftingBogan
@BushcraftingBogan 2 ай бұрын
@@Quartzquiz333 🤣 🤣 🤣 Right!
@brinsonharris9816
@brinsonharris9816 Ай бұрын
What amazes me are all these actors listed in the opening credits of these shows who were never seen again. They probably thought they’d made it-they were cast in a network show and would have great show biz careers. Only a few would make it after being in a failed show.
@davidbaise5137
@davidbaise5137 2 ай бұрын
Had to stop at 13 min. So bad….. will watch more in increments. Grandpa, who goes to Washington, is same actor in Anatomy of a Murder, I believe.
@teresapflaumer5717
@teresapflaumer5717 2 ай бұрын
I believe there were 35 new sitcoms that aired NBC/CBS/ABC. TONS of cancellations and mid-season replacements. Too many silly (and mostly BAD sitcoms) turned off too many viewers. The public then turned to the nighttime soaps (Dallas, Knots Landing, Falcon Crest) and real TV (60 Minutes) Dallas and 60 Minutes were on top of the Nielsens for the next 5 seasons (60 Minutes for 79-80 and 82-83; Dallas 80-81, 81-82 and 83-84).
@fromthesidelines
@fromthesidelines 2 ай бұрын
Even if Fred Silverman had approved of such non-existant series as "DADDY'S A DUMMY", "THE QUAGMIRE BOYS" and "MAAAAA!!!!!!!", he would have pulled them after only a few episodes, too. 🙄
@bsteven885
@bsteven885 2 ай бұрын
In the Maxwell House coffee commercial, was the older lady Margaret Hamilton (the Wicked Witch of the West on The Wizard of Oz)?
@robertsretrorewind5853
@robertsretrorewind5853 2 ай бұрын
You got it! That's definitely her!
@metsiemetsie6262
@metsiemetsie6262 2 ай бұрын
And the younger girl was Audrey Landers.
@robertsretrorewind5853
@robertsretrorewind5853 2 ай бұрын
@@metsiemetsie6262 Yes! She's sneakily, one of the best celebrities on game shows that I've ever seen. Her mother just passed away.
@bsteven885
@bsteven885 2 ай бұрын
@@robertsretrorewind5853, sorry to hear that Audrey Landers' mother passed away. R.I.P.
@Quartzquiz333
@Quartzquiz333 2 ай бұрын
@robertsretrorewind5853 Audrey Landers was very good on game shows. Once on Password Plus, she solved the puzzle with one clue, FALL. The answer: LEE MAJORS.
@JonesMediaMan
@JonesMediaMan Ай бұрын
I just can't tear myself away from these things. I turned 5 in 79, so this would likely be the first I would have remembered any, but as much fun is seeing so many familiar actors in shows I didn't know about.
@robertsretrorewind5853
@robertsretrorewind5853 Ай бұрын
That's awesome, I'm happy to read that! Thank you for watching!
@luisreyes1963
@luisreyes1963 2 ай бұрын
In that Nestlè Souptime commercial were Vincent Price & his wife Coral Browne.
@fromthesidelines
@fromthesidelines 2 ай бұрын
Even the *commercials* he did were just as entertaining.
@donaldpaluga
@donaldpaluga 2 ай бұрын
​@@fromthesidelinesand man, DID HE HATE THOSE INTERRUPTIONS!
@fromthesidelines
@fromthesidelines 2 ай бұрын
​😄
@johnrunion5357
@johnrunion5357 2 ай бұрын
james hampton's pudgy, friendly face was a common sight back in the 70's. he seemed to be everywhere. he just looked like a nice guy. i knew michael keaton and david letterman were associated with one of MTM's short lived shows, but i did not realize that keaton appeared on both of them. ron leibman was well cast as KAZ. he was a little more rough around the edges than most stars in a leading role on a 70's series. i guess the haircut helped a lot. it really seems like kaz stayed around for much longer than it did. my mom always siad that jospeh cotten and gregory peck were her two favorite actors and that jack palance was her favorite bad guy actor. then one night while we were watching kaz she announced he's my favorite actor in reference to patrick o'neal! i was shocked, stunned. i don't know what brought that on, but later she went back to cotten, peck and jack palance. when i was in 11th grade on a monday i think it was, a freshman was over heard telling another freshman that last night he watched kaz and everyone laughed. i never watched co-ed fever, brothers and sisters. i did briefly tune into delta house though. at the time doing a water-down tv version of a r-rated movie usually didn't turn out so very well. i do recall watching the bad news bears tv series though. i really liked BILLY a lot. i used towatch it until they chnaged nights and then it got cancelled. by 78/79 i had generally gone back to watching more cbs than abc. i loved the paper chase and had quit watching happy days by then. it was later revived on pbs years later with new episodes. i never got to see though however. 26th is really good for 13 queen street. i wonder why it was cancelled. i do not recall that series at all. i could never buy david cassidy as a tough guy and never watched man undercover. cliffhangers and supertrain i watched some. i saw every episode of time express. i think if given a chance it wcould have been a regular series. i read about it tv guide probably 6 months before it started airing. i was excited because vincent price was going to be doing a tv series. i told my firends and no one believed me. aafter the series premiered they still didn't believe me as they had no idea it was actually airing. i really liked alex cord, but i could not get through WEB's first episode. a woman was getting out of a car and asked cord when will i see you again. cord replied when i see you again. lol that is all i remember from that partial episode i watched. i really liked lucan, but it seemed just to be floating all over abc's schedule. it was difficult to find. i had to pay strict attention to the tv guide. i read about waverly wonders in the tv guide. anothe rof my friends did as well. he said no one is going to buy joe namath as a basketball coach, why didn't they make him a fdootball coach? it sems like larry breeding was on another short lived series around this time besides the last resort. i really liked the last resort. it came on after wkrp. later breeding would date penny marshall and land a recurring role on laverne and shirley before his untimely passing.i tried watching making it, but i knew it was just generic sat. night fever. i watched the pilot or rather part of it to sword of justice. it was boring and dack rambo was just too much of a pretty boy to pull off the atcion scenes. i knew it was stunemen doing all of the work. i watched flying high a little, but it didn't hang around long enough for me to make it a habit. some of my friends actually watched eddie capra mysteries. it was dropped before i could catch it. in 1980 there was a short lived series i loved called the secrets of midland heights. i tried to get others to weatch it, but when they did they reported they did not like it. later after it was cancelled much of then cast returned for another night time soap on a different network. it sems like dick clark had two short lived series with live entertainment around this time. i remember watching one one night when chuck berry accidentally hit Doc Severinsen in the mouth with his guitar . here's a clip of it. it sure seemed like it was a lot more obvious in my memory. the next week dick clark addressed the issue as chuck just getting in to it while playing : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rcl9hcyCnZPWaXk.html
@robertsretrorewind5853
@robertsretrorewind5853 2 ай бұрын
Great post John! I love the part about your mom saying that liked Patrick O'Neil, and then not bringing that up again. It's funny, you and I might be a bit similar, as (for whatever reason) I have a steel trap memory for the things people say (in my life), specifically when it comes to opinions about music, TV shows, movies, etc. I bring things up to my family members so many times, of things that they said in '81, or '93, and such, and they think I'm making it up. Or a conversation someone had on the school bus, about last night's episode of "Family Ties", or something like that. Thank you for sharing. BTW, because you added the link, your post automatically went to the "held for review" on my end. I rarely check this portion of the KZfaq studio (my mistake), but I stumbled across your post only now.
@robertsretrorewind5853
@robertsretrorewind5853 2 ай бұрын
To also add, I also really like Patrick O'Neil! In "Columbo" episodes, the lone episode of "Kaz" that I saw (a great episode), or even in "Under Siege" and "The Way We Were"!
@johnrunion5357
@johnrunion5357 2 ай бұрын
@@robertsretrorewind5853 thank you. yes, i recall people's 'reviews' about all things pop culture. then as time goes by they re-visit whatever and have a new opinion. i am like 'but said back in ...' yes, my mom only made that statement once and it was while KAZ was in prime time! lol i mean prior and after that it was always josephy cotten, gregory peck and for bad guys jack palance. no worries about the delay. youtube is strange when it comes to posting their own links! lol
@johnrunion5357
@johnrunion5357 2 ай бұрын
@@robertsretrorewind5853 check him out in night gallery : fear of spiders.
@pika23
@pika23 2 ай бұрын
Dude Dave letterman was on the Mary show!!! I THOUGHT that was him!
@pbcoop62
@pbcoop62 2 ай бұрын
So was a young Michael Keaton.
@seanswinton6242
@seanswinton6242 2 ай бұрын
​@@pbcoop62That was just before Keaton would appear on a short-lived show called "Working Stiffs" and Letterman would go on to a show called "Real People."
@BushcraftingBogan
@BushcraftingBogan 2 ай бұрын
I wonder how many little girls were forever traumatized when the batteries died in their "Baby Heartbeat" doll. 😂
@steelers6titles
@steelers6titles 2 ай бұрын
Mary Tyler Moore's variety series featured David Letterman, who had also been on "The Starland Vocal Band".
@GeminiladyJackson-xq6hc
@GeminiladyJackson-xq6hc 2 ай бұрын
David Letterman use to write jokes for Jimmie Walker, who starred on the sitcom, Good Times.
@steelers6titles
@steelers6titles 2 ай бұрын
@@GeminiladyJackson-xq6hc That comment was dy-no-mite.
@GeminiladyJackson-xq6hc
@GeminiladyJackson-xq6hc 2 ай бұрын
@@steelers6titles 😂😂😂😂
@peterharris2531
@peterharris2531 2 ай бұрын
Married: The First Year: David Jacobs left Dallas after the first season to develop this series--up against Eight Is Enough from the same producers, and annihilated in the ratings. Fortunately, his next series was Knots Landing.
@keithidota
@keithidota 2 ай бұрын
What if that show had been a long-running hit? Married: The 7th Year?
@digigroovestudios
@digigroovestudios 2 ай бұрын
No money, no bills, no problems. Just school.😁😁😁
@mlongpre100
@mlongpre100 Ай бұрын
and trying to get to 2nd base
@waynechapman9823
@waynechapman9823 2 ай бұрын
I remember having a crush on Kathryn Witt from "Flying High." Probably the only reason I can recall that show.
@recordman64
@recordman64 2 ай бұрын
And of the three female leads, she was the one whose career went nowhere afterwards.
@fromthesidelines
@fromthesidelines 2 ай бұрын
She did appear in "Philadelphia" (1993).
@aleks1939
@aleks1939 2 ай бұрын
Awww, I used to watch Friends! Loved that show and my friends and I would talk about it the next morning at school in 4th grade. Still remember the little league episode. The theme to Married sounds like Grant Goodeve sang it. But since it went up against Eight Is Enough, I highly doubt it.
@steelers6titles
@steelers6titles 2 ай бұрын
Vincent Price was a gourmet cook.
@GeminiladyJackson-xq6hc
@GeminiladyJackson-xq6hc 2 ай бұрын
I would be frightened to eat one of his meals.
@ronatopaz2793
@ronatopaz2793 2 ай бұрын
Lucky Coral! (His wife)
@pfmax9998
@pfmax9998 10 күн бұрын
I was 15 when Billy aired. My friends and I loved it. I remember fondly of Billy daydreaming about being Don Adams' booking agent and Billy's dad becoming The Hulk (Lou Ferrigno). I would love to see them again. 2 of my other favorite series that were short-lived are out on Bluray, Kolchak: The Night Stalker and Police Squad. So maybe some day.
@robertsretrorewind5853
@robertsretrorewind5853 10 күн бұрын
I would like to see that series for myself! Thank you for sharing!
@beverlyledbetter4906
@beverlyledbetter4906 2 ай бұрын
Wow... hard to believe that this was once TV!😳
@ambientstereorecordings3528
@ambientstereorecordings3528 Ай бұрын
It was better garbage than we have now.
@scottlarson1548
@scottlarson1548 Ай бұрын
Back then we needed an announcer on the TV yelling at us what great shows are on that network.
@pooddescrewch8718
@pooddescrewch8718 2 ай бұрын
Oh wow ! Lucan !! The Wolf Cub !!
@maggiegarber246
@maggiegarber246 2 ай бұрын
I remember this one but I don’t remember watching more than the 1st episode.
@Gonner453
@Gonner453 2 ай бұрын
The one thing we need to remember about a lot of these shows is this was the late 70s early 80s when we only had three networks and they threw everything at the wall and it’s some of it stuck. It was OK if not oh well. Some of these were midseason and or replacement shows for when others went on hiatus. I wonder how many remember when that happened also like the movie of the week or something you remember that buildup to it starting like the end of the month before it aired, and then generally up until the day of how the commercials for it changed
@robertsretrorewind5853
@robertsretrorewind5853 2 ай бұрын
Very good points!
@tedharrington5432
@tedharrington5432 2 ай бұрын
During the 1978-79 television season I can remember our family watching one episode of "Supertrain" and when the episode ended, my Dad said, "Never again!" We also watched "In the Beginning," "Makin' It," and "Who's Watching the Kids?" My brother and I watched "Delta House" and "Apple Pie," while my parents watched "Kaz." Thanks again for the wonderful memories!
@robertsretrorewind5853
@robertsretrorewind5853 2 ай бұрын
Thank you Ted!
@recordman64
@recordman64 2 ай бұрын
Ron Leibman won an Emmy for Kaz. In his speech, he said, "It's Sunday night, and for once, Kaz isn't preempted!'
@fromthesidelines
@fromthesidelines 2 ай бұрын
He also went on to star in "Mad Magazine Presents 'UP THE ACADEMY'" in 1980- one of THE *WORST* movies of 1980 {I know, because I sat through it- and fell asleep- when it was originslly released}. He insisted on not being credited in the film and on the posters- and Bill Gaines, the publisher of MAD, paid Warner Bros. $30,000 to remove his magazine's name- and the "Alfred E. Newman" statue featured in the film- from the original home video release.
@robertsretrorewind5853
@robertsretrorewind5853 2 ай бұрын
@@fromthesidelines I got motion-sickness from the intro of that movie. Just for some perspective as to how low that movie ranks in my head, if "The Seniors" (1978) is a 10/10, "Up the Academy" is a 0.5/10. "Up the Academy" is in a race with "The Happy Hooker Goes to Hollywood" (1980) for the worst movie I've seen in recent memory.
@fromthesidelines
@fromthesidelines 2 ай бұрын
I saw both. "The Happy Hooker Goes Hollywood" wasn't as bad as "Throw Up the Academy" (as MAD itself parodied it in their magazine), but I can tell you- from personal experience- that I was the *ONLY* person in my local theater by the time that film ended.
@fataudra7579
@fataudra7579 2 ай бұрын
11:10 Flatbush theme performed by Tavares!
@DrefusX
@DrefusX 2 ай бұрын
No wonder it sounded good!! 😉😎💯💯💯
@seanswinton6242
@seanswinton6242 2 ай бұрын
That's what I thought. The irony was there is a show here called "Whodunit," a hit song by Tavares from around the same time!
@viennawaits4u36
@viennawaits4u36 2 ай бұрын
Watched a few episodes of "David Cassidy - Man Undercover" 32:45 on KZfaq a few years ago, and I can safely say that the show was the most laugh-out-loud unintentionally funny detective series ever. I mean, we're talking "The Naked Gun" level of comedy at times, while trying to be a serious dramatic detective show. If the series is still posted on KZfaq, I strongly recommend looking it up and watching a few episodes. Especially episode-4, now there was some real comedy gold.
@robertsretrorewind5853
@robertsretrorewind5853 2 ай бұрын
I appreciate your singling out that episode. I actually think the first few episodes were good, more so than the back end of the series (episodes 6-10). And I wanted to like this episode, primarily because Ed Harris was in it. But that ending... Lame. The convoy scenes were a build up to nothing. It "may" have helped Harris with his motorcycle skills, for when he did "Knightriders" (1981), maybe... I think the series isn't as good as that episode of Police Story that kicked it all off, "A Chance to Live". Not for everyone, worked for me though. I've seen it quite a few times over the years. I also like that 5th episode of Man Undercover with Heather Thomas (and Jenny Sherman).
@davanmani556
@davanmani556 2 ай бұрын
The singer for the theme song tried to sound like Michael McDonald?
@melodiefrances3898
@melodiefrances3898 2 ай бұрын
Gonna check that out!
@MsGail61
@MsGail61 2 ай бұрын
@@davanmani556 no it’s David Cassidy
@recordman64
@recordman64 2 ай бұрын
David Cassidy-Man Undercover, the entire series, is available for streaming on Crackle.
@Quartzquiz333
@Quartzquiz333 2 ай бұрын
The American Girls tried to be CBS' answer to Charlie's Angels. It went against The Love Boat and sunk like The Titanic.
@kidfrombrooklyn66
@kidfrombrooklyn66 2 ай бұрын
ABC had it made with a mini vacation every week on Saturday Night (THE LOVE BOAT & FANTASY ISLAND)
@Quartzquiz333
@Quartzquiz333 2 ай бұрын
​@@kidfrombrooklyn66My dad's favorite night of television, may he rest in peace. He LOVED watching those two shows back to back on Saturday nights in the late 70s/early 80s.
@peterharris2531
@peterharris2531 2 ай бұрын
Hanging In had one of the strangest and most involved histories in all of television. In early 1978, with Maude drawing very poor ratings, the producers decided to retool it by having Maude run for and win a vacant Congessional seat. The three-part season finale depicted the election and Maude's first d may in office, with three new cast members playing her staff. But Beatrice Arthur decided not to return for a new season. The producers then created a new series about a black freshman Congressman, and filmed a pilot starring John Amos of Good Times. Amos quarreled with the producers and left. Cleavon Little was then signed and a third pilot, Mr. Dugan, got made. CBS picked it up and began taping episodes--but decided at the last moment to pre-screen them for real-life black Congressmen. They reacted in fury at the stereotypes, and the producers self-canceled the show and refunded CBS an estimated $1.2 million spent on the completed episodes. To get some of the money back, they then reshot four episodes with some script changes to set them in a college (now with Maude's Bill Macy as star). These ran in August 1979 as a companion series to Dorothy. CBS did not try again.
@robertsretrorewind5853
@robertsretrorewind5853 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for unpacking all of that. That whole thing should have an episode squarely devoted to it.
@metsiemetsie6262
@metsiemetsie6262 2 ай бұрын
Give Bea Arthur a lot of credit for not coming back to the revamped "Maude": That 3-part episode stank.
@davanmani556
@davanmani556 2 ай бұрын
From these shows, intuitively, I got a better sense of the actors intellect and work ethic. Likewise, how hard it is to make it in show business. Compared to established shows like Fantasy Island, Mork & Mindy, Love Boat and others.
@ernestcruz6316
@ernestcruz6316 2 ай бұрын
In the Cliffhangers series, The Secret Empire was a warmed-over version of an old Gene Autry serial in which Gene and his Melody Ranch gang travel to the subterranean kingdom of Murania and run afoul of a beer-bellied knockoff of Ming the Merciless from Flash Gordon. That Gene Autry serial is chock full of unintentional comedy, a real laugh riot.
@steelers6titles
@steelers6titles 2 ай бұрын
It had Mark Lenard, of Star Trek fame.
@chuckdieselkicksdisks2380
@chuckdieselkicksdisks2380 2 ай бұрын
very cool , thanks Robert'sRetroRewind
@robertsretrorewind5853
@robertsretrorewind5853 2 ай бұрын
I appreciate that Chuck! And thank you, for watching!
@markp8581
@markp8581 2 ай бұрын
LOL at 11:50 I thought that guy was Simon Heldberg, Howard Wolowitz but in 1978, turns out its the actors father.
@recordman64
@recordman64 2 ай бұрын
Another guy in Flatbush was Randy Stumpf, who played an accused killer on Quincy a few months before. There's nothing funny about someone being killed, but Stumpf explaining what happened--"I''m telling you, she hit her head on a PILLOW!'--was hilarious.
@steelers6titles
@steelers6titles 2 ай бұрын
Mary Tyler Moore's unsuccessful variety show originated from Television City, where Carol Burnett's series had been taped. Carol's show had completed its 11-year run the season before.
@fromthesidelines
@fromthesidelines 2 ай бұрын
The announcer reminded us of that at the beginning of each episode. 😉
@peterharris2531
@peterharris2531 2 ай бұрын
The American Girls' music composer, Jerrold Immel, also composed the theme for Dallas.
@fromthesidelines
@fromthesidelines 2 ай бұрын
Too bad the rest of the show wasn't as compelling as Jerrold's theme and score.
@Quartzquiz333
@Quartzquiz333 2 ай бұрын
How Waverly Wonders lasted three seconds, let alone three episodes needs to be investigated someday.
@robertsretrorewind5853
@robertsretrorewind5853 2 ай бұрын
This is true, yet, I'd LOVE to see those episodes! Joe Namath went from a relatively long-term relationship with Randi Oakes, to one with Audrey Landers here (sigh...).
@Quartzquiz333
@Quartzquiz333 2 ай бұрын
@@robertsretrorewind5853 Agreed. Same with Apple Pie, just because of the talent attached to that show.
@metsiemetsie6262
@metsiemetsie6262 2 ай бұрын
Waverly Wonders lasted 3 seconds simply because NBC president Fred Silverman was ripping off every hit show of the era ("Supertrain" = "Love Boat," "Hello, Larry" = "One Day at a Time"). This was his knock-off of "Welcome Back, Kotter."
@johnjones3813
@johnjones3813 2 ай бұрын
That Time Express looked good.
@johnjones3813
@johnjones3813 2 ай бұрын
53:30 "Turn us on, and we'll turn you on." Jesus Christ!
@KRW628
@KRW628 2 ай бұрын
My family was so poor, we ate Helper Helper BAH-DOOM-BOOM!!
@steelers6titles
@steelers6titles 2 ай бұрын
You put hamburger in it?--National Lampoon's Vacation
@RideAcrossTheRiver
@RideAcrossTheRiver 19 күн бұрын
@@steelers6titles Only the best!
@chuckdieselkicksdisks2380
@chuckdieselkicksdisks2380 2 ай бұрын
21:00 a train with a Disco, doctor & gym...sign me up
@kidfrombrooklyn66
@kidfrombrooklyn66 2 ай бұрын
Don't forget "A SWIMMING POOL - ON A TRAIN ? WHAT A COUNTRY !"
@richardrice8076
@richardrice8076 2 ай бұрын
It's safe to say makin' it didn't make it even though he was a pepper. As long as I'm pointing out the obvious, I guess no one was watching the kids.
@donaldpaluga
@donaldpaluga 2 ай бұрын
If it was renewed David Naughton would never have become a werewolf of London #AwOOOOOOOOOO
@richardrice8076
@richardrice8076 2 ай бұрын
@@donaldpaluga 👍
@user-gm9he1os5o
@user-gm9he1os5o 2 ай бұрын
20:35 Supertrain. The theme music was reused and recycled into the 1980 NBC game show Chain Reaction hosted by Bill Cullen
@jimklipper6022
@jimklipper6022 2 ай бұрын
Was Supertrain a spoof like the movie, Airplane?
@user-gm9he1os5o
@user-gm9he1os5o 2 ай бұрын
No, it was sort of a Love Boat on rails but with more drama instead of lighthearted jokes. Celebrities would appear every week.
@donaldpaluga
@donaldpaluga 2 ай бұрын
This is Chain Reaction, where one word leads to another-Johnny Gilbert
@peterharris2531
@peterharris2531 2 ай бұрын
W.E.B. was the first cancellation of the 1978-79 season. That's Pamela Bellwood (later Claudia on Dynasty) in the opening credits.
@fromthesidelines
@fromthesidelines 2 ай бұрын
Fred Silverman HATED "W.E.B."- and removed it from the schedule as soon as he could.
@cbalducc
@cbalducc 2 ай бұрын
How did Fred Silverman’s golden touch turn to rust at NBC?
@Quartzquiz333
@Quartzquiz333 2 ай бұрын
His own past success, that's how. The hits he helped create for CBS and ABC earlier in the decade were still running by the time he went to NBC, therefore he was beaten by himself. Of course, some of Fred's ideas were waaaay off the mark (See next season's Pink Lady and Jeff as an example.) By the end of his NBC tenure The Man with the Golden Gut was known as The Guy with the Rusted Belly.
@kidfrombrooklyn66
@kidfrombrooklyn66 2 ай бұрын
Well you had SUPERTRAIN + THE 1980 SUMMER OLYMPIC GAMES BOYCOTT - SNL was in season 4 of 5 with the original cast & the 1981 Writers Guild of America strike didn't help either !!
@DireHammer
@DireHammer Ай бұрын
Creating a show so bad Mary Tyler Moore, Michael Keaton, David Letterman, and James Hampton can't save it is kind of impressive.
@Quartzquiz333
@Quartzquiz333 2 ай бұрын
I actually remember seeing Friends on Sunday nights as a kid in the late 70s...and PLEASE don't ask me about Ross, Rachel, Ugly Naked Guy or Central Perk...🙄
@tolfan4438
@tolfan4438 2 ай бұрын
I saw friends in the listings 94 and thought , their beinging back that bomb.
@luisreyes1963
@luisreyes1963 2 ай бұрын
If they do revive Friends, make Ugly Naked Guy be in EVERY episode! 🤣
@Quartzquiz333
@Quartzquiz333 2 ай бұрын
@@luisreyes1963 I'd watch!
@keithidota
@keithidota 2 ай бұрын
There were also 2 different shows titled ER.
@Quartzquiz333
@Quartzquiz333 2 ай бұрын
@keithidota Yep. The sitcom (Titled E/R) and the drama. Fun fact: George Clooney and Mary McDonell starred in both series!
@wgd14u
@wgd14u 17 күн бұрын
Hey. Hope all is well with you. Looking forward to your next video. It has been awhile.
@robertsretrorewind5853
@robertsretrorewind5853 16 күн бұрын
Thank you! I have a bunch of videos that are ready to go. The delay in releasing them, has to do with my trying (and failing) to get monetized. I appreciate your words.
@ManorHQ
@ManorHQ 2 ай бұрын
This late-70s series had a theme song and opening that screamed "DISCO-ERA." *buzzer* What is Supertrain? I also love how the logo looked like a 70s NBA team logo.
@paulkitt-er9dr
@paulkitt-er9dr 2 ай бұрын
Another amazing collection of shows another excellent effort Rob putting this together. Kaz was an excellent series with Ron liebman who won an emmy for his performance should of got a longer run . Mary with David Letterman and Michael Keaton . Letterman enjoyed making fun of this show every time Keaton or Mary appeared on late night. Another McLean Stevenson flop ,Billy with Steve Gutenberg and Apple pie with Rue McClannahan and Dabney Coleman who said in an interview this show was a disaster and Co - Ed fever looked an interesting misfire.
@robertsretrorewind5853
@robertsretrorewind5853 2 ай бұрын
Always appreciated Paul, many thanks! I've only seen the first episode of Kaz, and I've watched it about 6 times over the past couple of years. The opening 10 minutes or so, I've watched probably a good 50 times (seriously!). It surprises me every time I watch that opening, and to think it only lasted "1" season. Liebman put on a real virtuoso performance in that opening (and the rest of the episode). I almost wonder if he rehearsed that section hundreds of times over, before they started rolling the camera. It's really too bad only that one episode is available. I watched the run of The Mary Tyler Moore Hour recently, and it's fantastic (I'm sure a number of people wouldn't agree with this). Sort of a pre-Larry Sanders type of a show (a blend of that and The Betty White Show from '77). If nothing else, you can see Michael Keaton showing glimpses of where he was heading. I think Letterman has had a long crush on Mary Tyler Moore, and Dolly Parton. I've always liked Dabney Coleman (Wargames and on Buffalo Bill), and he's another actor that I think a lot of people took for granted over the years. As always, thank you for sharing Paul.
@battlegirldeb
@battlegirldeb 2 ай бұрын
This is the year they tried to make a show about life in college and none of the shows last at all. I was one of the people who loved "Turnabout".
@gogreen7794
@gogreen7794 2 ай бұрын
I was in my second year of grad school in 1978-79 at a Big 10 university. I received my bachelor's degree from another Big 10 university in 1977. I NEVER experienced college life like it was portrayed in "Animal House" or any of the TV shows inspired by the movie. In my state, the drinking age was lowered to 18 when I was 16 and raised back up to 21 when I was 22. I even attended a few toga parties. Even so, I still didn't see or experience college life as portrayed in those absolutely ridiculous shows.
@encapstore5784
@encapstore5784 Ай бұрын
This is very detailed and well assembled. Question for you or anyone that might know - some of these shows appeared to rate higher than competing programs. If that's the case, why were they canceled?
@robertsretrorewind5853
@robertsretrorewind5853 Ай бұрын
There are times when a show had strong ratings when it premiered - and in around that time - but as the weeks continued, that show might have dropped off considerably moving forward. So the end of the season rating might be high, but it could be viewed as misleading. A show may have started off with a great time slot, sandwiched between established shows with strong ratings, then the show was moved to a different time slot (different night), and that might have revealed that the show wasn't strong on its own. There were also shows where the lead actor/actors were at odds with the writers, or producers too. I know for a show like 'On Our Own', the network wanted to move the show to Los Angeles when it had been filmed in New York (from what I can remember). Also, I know for 'Toma', the lead actor only wanted to stay on for a single season. The word is that the show was going to be renewed for a 2nd year, but since the main actor wasn't coming back, and from that we ended up with 'Barreta'. I personally think the show wasn't doing that well in the ratings anyway, but the common (and widely accepted) narrative was that it was basically canceled (for lack of a better word) since Tony Musante wasn't coming back. Also a show like 'Bridget Loves Bernie' was killing it in the ratings, but there was the whole mixed religion marriage element, and pressure from the sponsors (via certain groups) to cancel the show. It's too bad, I really like that show! There are probably a lot more reasons than that, but I hope this helps. I really like that question btw. Thank you for watching!
@davidbaise5137
@davidbaise5137 2 ай бұрын
Those were some dark years when NBC changed the logo.
@Quartzquiz333
@Quartzquiz333 2 ай бұрын
It's pretty sad that one of the best things that came out of that era was NBC bringing back the peacock logo. 🦚
@samuellugo859
@samuellugo859 2 ай бұрын
When tv was clean no violence, unnecessary violence when everything was clean and pure entertaining I miss those days
@scottlarson1548
@scottlarson1548 Ай бұрын
But all the intros to cops shows had the star running around with a gun ready to shoot the bad guy.
@michaelreed4744
@michaelreed4744 Ай бұрын
I was thinking about it due to censorship.
@jimmyjames6267
@jimmyjames6267 2 ай бұрын
I would watch any of these classic TV shows over any of the junk on TV these days, including the commercials too, in 78 I was only 16 yrs old too...
@robertsretrorewind5853
@robertsretrorewind5853 2 ай бұрын
I love it! That's it! I could also sit there and watch commercials from +30 years ago over the stuff today. If you told me in 1980, that there would come a day that I'll prefer watching commercials (from 1980 of course) over new television (2024), and we'd have 1,000 channels to chose from, I'd think you're nuts. And I couldn't agree more with you today.
@gregoryfarshtey6856
@gregoryfarshtey6856 2 ай бұрын
And yet all anyone talked about in the '70s was how everything on TV was garbage and there was nothing to watch.
@peterharris2531
@peterharris2531 2 ай бұрын
CBS premiered Co-Ed Fever as a special on February 4, 1979, filling the last half hour of a Sunday night following the broadcast premiere of Rocky. So Co-Ed Fever got great ratings (a 38 percent share of TVs tuned in), but CBS saw disaster coming and axed it at once, putting the short-lived Flatbush in its place. This was Heather Thomas's first series (The Fall Guy was two years later); Jane Rose's last (she died a few months later).
@robertsretrorewind5853
@robertsretrorewind5853 2 ай бұрын
Peter, I appreciate this information. I'm currently having a problem, locating the ratings for the 1979-80 season. Every place I've located/looked at, only reveals 30 shows; as opposed to the +100 on a full list. Since you know about the Co-Ed Fever ratings, is there another site I should be looking at? I'd very much appreciate it if you could tell me your source on that one. Unfortunately, what I found on (while researching) Co-Ed Fever, was that the ratings were poor, but I believe what you're saying is likely true (backed with the percentage share helps!). Thank you for posting!
@fromthesidelines
@fromthesidelines 2 ай бұрын
"Rocky" had a 52 percent share of the audience. CBS expected "CO-ED FEVER" to have equal ratings.......but it didn't. The audience dropped out after 10:30pm(et) by at least *14 POINTS.* And that didn't assure them the same amount of viewers would tune in on Mondays at 8:30, two weeks later. They decided to "cut their losses" by shelving the series.
@robertsretrorewind5853
@robertsretrorewind5853 2 ай бұрын
@@fromthesidelines Great to know! Specifically about that 14 point drop. Well, that intro (that you had mentioned recently) certainly begged for the audience to turn the knob... I also see the benefits of them showing it right after "Rocky", but I can't quite understand why they thought that would be a great time to show it (10:30 at night).
@fromthesidelines
@fromthesidelines 2 ай бұрын
For the same reason the networks scheduled sneak previews of new shows following the "Super Bowl" in the 1970's, '80s and '90s. Some succeeded {"THE WONDER YEARS"}, while others didn't {"BROTHERS & SISTERS", "THE LAST PRECINCT"}.
@robertsretrorewind5853
@robertsretrorewind5853 2 ай бұрын
@@fromthesidelines I am VERY happy that "The Wonder Years" was a success that night.
@jons.105
@jons.105 2 ай бұрын
I remember both those Mary Tyler Moore bombs---nobody wanted to see our Mare dressed as a hobo or pretending she was Shirley MacLaine. Thank God she got "Ordinary People" and spared us all from a singing-dancing-high kicking MTM.
@luisreyes1963
@luisreyes1963 2 ай бұрын
2 Mary Tyler Moore variety shows? Thank God she got a role that won her an Oscar in Ordinary People. 😅
@fromthesidelines
@fromthesidelines 2 ай бұрын
She and CBS were determined to make her variety format work- even if she had to become a female Jack Benny to do it a second time. But *nobody* could top Jack.
@steelers6titles
@steelers6titles 2 ай бұрын
@@fromthesidelines Or Carol Burnett, whose CBS series, also originating from Television City, had just ended its eleven-year run.
@fromthesidelines
@fromthesidelines 2 ай бұрын
I remember the 1979 "HOUR". It was "artificial" in execution, as nothing seemed to "flow", naturally- from musical numbers on "THE MARY McKINNON SHOW" to the backstage incidents {which were taped without a live audience, although I believe those portions were later shown to an audience for live reactions added to the soundtrack}. Mary had an entire platoon of writers creating the scripts {at least eighteen of them, including Gary Belkin as "Creative Consultant"}; the results varied, to say the least. Probably the best episode she did was the one featuring Dick Van Dyke....and the worst was probably the one featuring Bonnie Franklin [the plot had them arrested for being "streetwalkers" outside Television City while in ridiculous costumes for a production number, and they had to spend time in the city jail]...and "comedy relief" from Henny Youngman. Yet, Carol KNEW what kind of variety show she wanted to do from the beginning, and had very few problems staging it.
@user-sp6jk3zz5b
@user-sp6jk3zz5b 2 ай бұрын
I saw part of one episode of her variety show where she tried to be Carol Burnett in that she was taking ng questions from the audience. Desperate times. And she did a cringe worthy song and dance routine murdering Paul McCartney's With Alittle Luck
@steelers6titles
@steelers6titles 2 ай бұрын
Mary Tyler Moore (or her husband) had her own production company. The sitcom had ended with everyone at the TV station getting fired. What would have been a better idea for Moore would have been to have her continue the Mary Richards character in another setting, with, maybe, some of the cast members back from "The Mary Tyler Moore Show". Of course, the other major actors had moved on, or were about to do so.
@steelers6titles
@steelers6titles 2 ай бұрын
Poppies! Coffee! Something with poison, yet attractive to the eye!
@fromthesidelines
@fromthesidelines 2 ай бұрын
Margaret Hamilton was a very sweet woman, and a joy to work with. Peg Lynch featured her on "ETHEL & ALBERT" and "THE COUPLE NEXT DOOR" in the 1950's.
@robertcringle4865
@robertcringle4865 2 ай бұрын
So David Cassidy the actor was portraying David Cassidy the man undercover. Is that still considered acting?
@fromthesidelines
@fromthesidelines 2 ай бұрын
It was Fred Silverman's idea to name the series after him (to attract more viewers).
@alexnejako777
@alexnejako777 2 ай бұрын
this was a cool time for tv. higher budget, no CGI. and good music
@johnjones3813
@johnjones3813 2 ай бұрын
High budget?
@alexnejako777
@alexnejako777 2 ай бұрын
i really got into Supertrain. had Amtrak station down the road.
@alexnejako777
@alexnejako777 2 ай бұрын
​@johnjones3813 yes they spent a bunch on it. it's one of the reasons why it's a bit notorious. $10 million per episode in the 70s filming in real trains built for the series
@nongthip
@nongthip Ай бұрын
In '78/79 I was 14-15 y.o. and so prime time TV was quickly getting out-prioritized by girls and clothes and maybe listening to record albums or going to the movies to "make out". TV was suddenly mostly kids stuff, or for boring old people who's lives were nearly over anyway. The easy part was having only three networks competing for a few highly-contested spots, so it was very easy to decide what was worthwhile or a waste of time. Now that you can watch anything anywhere anytime it takes a lot of the fun out of it, plus so many people just watch alone on their pathetic 6-inch handheld screen, there is virtually no social element involved. It used to be that you would go to school and before class discuss with your friends what was on TV last night. Or you'd go to the movies with your friends and all sit together and then go somewhere for pizza afterwards and talk about the movie. Nearly all of that is gone now (thanks a lot Steve Jobs) which is a terrible tragedy. Anyway the 78-79 season the only TV shows I might have watched were Welcome Back Kotter, Three's Company, Starsky & Hutch, and maybe Happy Days which was already losing it's touch by then. So it's funny and kinda sad to see these short-lived shows which were either just lame or were up against stiff competition.
@fredprince9258
@fredprince9258 2 ай бұрын
California Fever was another short-lived show (1979): with Jimmy McNichol, Lorenzo lamas and Marc McClure
@robertsretrorewind5853
@robertsretrorewind5853 2 ай бұрын
It'll be included in the next video (1979-80). Funny thing, I just watched an episode of it last night; the one with Morgan Brittany!
@GeminiladyJackson-xq6hc
@GeminiladyJackson-xq6hc 2 ай бұрын
Jimmy McNichol is the brother of Kristy McNichol.
@fromthesidelines
@fromthesidelines 2 ай бұрын
Even though 13 episodes were filmed and scheduled, "CALIFORNIA FEVER" was more popular in Europe than the U.S.
@mrdave5232
@mrdave5232 Ай бұрын
Oh wow. Born in 71 , this is the only reason I have the KZfaq app! Poor Maclean Stevenson. Left Mash because he thought he had better opportunities. I remember being a child watching Hello Larry and knew it was a bomb. And Mad magazine made sooooo much fun of that show and him specifically
@jim2lane
@jim2lane 23 күн бұрын
I had no idea that David Letterman and Michael Keaton were on the Mary show with Mary Tyler Moore
@carseye1219
@carseye1219 2 ай бұрын
It's easy to criticize these shows, and I'm sure some were awful, but sometimes shows just need time to find the right dynamic and find their audience. The first few episodes of Andy Griffith were terrible with Andy playing the grinning goofy character he was in "No time for Sergeants". Then he went to the straight man for Barney and it took off. "Family Ties" was supposed to center around the parents but the Michael J Fox character stole the show. Both it and the initially low-rated "Cheers" hit the big time following Cosby.
@cbalducc
@cbalducc 2 ай бұрын
“Family Ties” got better after Michael Gross grew a beard and mustache.
@johnjones3813
@johnjones3813 2 ай бұрын
Network executives are idiots. They put so much effort into shows, and cancel so many, so quickly.
@redivider6430
@redivider6430 2 ай бұрын
Mclean Stevenson should have stayed with MASH. Everything he tried after leaving it was a bomb.
@anthonybrooks5040
@anthonybrooks5040 2 ай бұрын
Shelley Long unfortunately followed in Stevenson's footsteps when she left "Cheers". David Caruso leaving "NYPD Blue" wasn't his best career choice, either. That's the risk of walking away from a very successful TV series for perceived "greener" pastures. .
@fromthesidelines
@fromthesidelines 2 ай бұрын
David managed to find those "green pastures" on TV again by starring in the long-running "CSI: MIAMI". He was a grateful as Pernell Roberts was in "TRAPPER JOHN, M.D." by finding another long-running TV series. Most actors and actresses don't get a second chance after making boneheaded decisions as they did.
@pulsarstargrave256
@pulsarstargrave256 2 ай бұрын
From 79 to 80, it seemed like Dracula was everywhere! 2 Big screen movies: DRACULA (Frank Langella) and LOVE AT FIRST BITE (George Hamilton) while "The Curse of Dracula" was the only show I watched on CLIFFHANGERS! And.... WOW! Mary Tyler Moore had TWO shows bomb that season? I think she would have been better off exploring Made for T.V. films!
@digital2500
@digital2500 2 ай бұрын
Susan Anton was a beautiful celebrity who couldn't find a suitable vehicle.
@tstockel
@tstockel 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, you see that happen sometimes with actors bouncing from canceled show to canceled show. Robert Urich I think holds a record for most t.v. series appearances because his programs kept getting scrapped.
@robertsretrorewind5853
@robertsretrorewind5853 2 ай бұрын
@@tstockel Optimal example. These two could be the prom king and queen for this specific category (in the '70s). Shelley Fabares also springs to mind, Greg Evigan too (but maybe I'm being unfair with him).
@karltork6040
@karltork6040 2 ай бұрын
The fact she didn't have the talent, to back up her looks didn't help.
@cbalducc
@cbalducc 2 ай бұрын
@@tstockel He got three seasons out of “Vegas”. There was also “Spenser: For Hire” in the 1980s. I think that was good for two or three years.
@jeannehall6546
@jeannehall6546 2 ай бұрын
Whatever became of Susan Anton?
@user-yt2ur1fp4z
@user-yt2ur1fp4z 2 ай бұрын
Some great ideas
@db399
@db399 2 ай бұрын
I did laugh at the promo for The American Girls, they weren't subtle :)
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