1980 Honda CB750F DOHC Scheduled Maintenance: Valve Clearance, Cam Chain, Timing, Carb Sync, & Drive

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Guma

Guma

4 жыл бұрын

In this video I do the routine scheduled maintenance as recommended by the Honda factory service manual. I am working on a motor that has just been broken in over 500 miles, but this is the same maintenance that would be done at 4000 mile intervals.
To skip ahead:
Valve adjustment 05:40
Cam chain 19:25
Timing 23:39
Carb sync 29:22
Oil chat 34:21 - I edited out my explanation of the viscosity rating because I had it all wrong. That's what you get from relying on memory. Check the link posted in the comments about how to interpret the "20w-50" rating on the oil jug. The advice still applies: heavier oil in a hotter climate. These old motors prefer it, and we have the benefit of 40 years of data backing up this choice.
Drive/chain slack 39:20
This is my first instructional video. I tried to fill a gap in the available information as I saw it when I was building this bike. I also wanted to provide some holistic thinking practices for working on motorcycles in general.
There is much that I'm sure I left out, and different DIYers will litigate the methodology differently; what I know for certain is that this methodology has worked for me up until this point. For example, the position of the motor when measuring the valve clearances is described differently in the FSM than it is in this video and by other folks online. The proof is in the ride! Always gather information from multiple sources before attempting your own maintenance.
There are other procedures you can do at the same time you're doing the 4000mi checkup: lube all cables, bleed the brakes, etc. I did not cover these here because my bike is still fresh and I wanted specifically to focus on the engine.
There are some special tools needed to do this at home, but a small investment in the near term will save you loads of money in the long term. I am not a capitalist, so links will not be provided. I'm sure you can figure out how to order these online:
- Feeler gauges (in thousandths of an inch)
- MotionPro shim removal tool
- Timing light
- MotionPro carb sync screw adjustment tool
- Carb synchronizer (manometer) - a rough version can be made with hardware store supplies; I didn't have the guts to do it and preferred the dial gauges.
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@yasineorion9264
@yasineorion9264 Ай бұрын
I’ve owned and wrenched on a dohc for years and I still reference this video at least once a week just for a refresher. It’s been a life saver.
@Gumaamug
@Gumaamug Ай бұрын
Cheers, I've been thinking of doing an updated one for a while now but I'm glad to hear that this one is still so helpful!
@icandsc
@icandsc 2 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to thank you for the great work - it is definitely difficult to find good videos on motorcycle maintenance, and if you have a classic bike, much more so. I was gifted a 80s DOHC Honda bike, and you've definitely improved the chances that I will be able to keep and enjoy it, which is how I feel is the best way to thank the person that gave it to me.
@GillK95
@GillK95 4 жыл бұрын
This is such a good informational video. Theres stuff on SOHC CB750, but this is the first proper DOHC video. Thanks so much!
@ThrillaPark
@ThrillaPark 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video. Great job. Please do more! And thanks for not ruining it by over-music-ing it!!
@vladimirmoravec
@vladimirmoravec 4 ай бұрын
Thanks this is gold I just bought my first honda cb750 same age as me 44 years old and that is my first task with this bike of mine
@Gumaamug
@Gumaamug 4 ай бұрын
Good luck and have fun with it! I've got a couple other videos about this bike on my channel you may find useful.
@ClassicRider
@ClassicRider Жыл бұрын
Hi Guma - Hope you have had a nice biking day. After some errands where able to open the pipes up a little bit on Rt 1 this morning, I drained the 10W40, loosened the Engine Guard which enabled the removal of three electronic Ignition 3 bolt cover which I am not sure how that works in a wet environment, but discovered one of the three bolts to be instead a flat head screw ( twice I had work done on her. It was back in 82 when taking down the outbound Lincoln tunnel with an engine crash. The Second, was after I restored her, paid a group to fine tune my work. Since the last, I have noticed many missing bolts I had to account for, but would not demonstrate an issue for a time to come. ) Once exposed, I was able to reach in to touch those three screws. As there was no issue, including a little gasket cement, attaching the covers, I thought it would be an opportune time to see if I could recover the neutral switch dash board signal. I had replaced the Gear Shifter rubber seal recently and had not known then that the wire there connected to the neutral switch. If shorted with oil - well anything goes. So I attempted to no avail to dry off the connector near the switch. Moutul 10W50 oil is Cherry in color, and almost temping to convince oneself its not cough syrup. When getting it on my hands, I made a point of not licking it - She drove beautifully tonight. One thing I observed while on the garage floor. Cylinder's 3 & 4 have a dent where the go under the Engine. One is at least 40% and the other maybe 20-50% volume impediment. I would love to meet a Minike guy that would be hip on theses - btw: with out the baffles, and maybe more slippery oil, she is fast if you just breathe on her - best regard -
@Luomu69
@Luomu69 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, sir! One '97 CB 750 Seven Fifty owner in Finland is a lot less confused now.. :-)
@Logankampa
@Logankampa 2 жыл бұрын
Never thought the guy I just saw on a Facebook ad for UPS would be the one showing me how to adjust the timing on my Super Sport. Thanks, man!
@Gumaamug
@Gumaamug 2 жыл бұрын
And yet, there/here I was/am...! Nice looking bike you've got!
@crispinleslie
@crispinleslie 3 жыл бұрын
'Ive been wrenching on my '82 for nearly ten years- I learned a lot from your video, I have never seen a better tutorial on the DOHC 750. Thanks. I'm looking forward to the vlog of your road trip. Its always disappointed me that there are no RTW blogs/vlogs for this bike... One of us should change that :)
@Gumaamug
@Gumaamug 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers to that!
@TheLee4646
@TheLee4646 4 ай бұрын
Wow dude, great video! Thanks so much for putting this together. I’m new to all of this, and search and search for good info. Yours is the best i have found. Thoughtful, pragmatic, clear and good images. So appreciative! And i hope you did take that big road trip! Thank you!
@austinbutler4406
@austinbutler4406 2 жыл бұрын
This is incredible. Thank you for taking the time to do this.
@Bobby82568
@Bobby82568 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks you! Just got a 79 750K and was looking for a maintenance vid but couldn’t find any so thanks for all the great info.
@persistencewins
@persistencewins 2 жыл бұрын
Really cool instructional & helpful video. Thumbs up to you bro.
@christophertremblay9533
@christophertremblay9533 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video, hope you keep it up. I'm resurrecting a 1981 CB900C and appreciate any tutorials on these bikes. Cheers.
@ropke99
@ropke99 3 жыл бұрын
Just got a 79 750K and was looking for a maintenance video Thank you!
@GerryChopikRealtor
@GerryChopikRealtor 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! And great notes. Nicely done start to finish. THANKS!
@nine60xray18
@nine60xray18 4 жыл бұрын
Really cool to find a recently posted video for this model! I have the same exact model as you. This video is definitely a god send. Thank you
@cadeng8168
@cadeng8168 3 жыл бұрын
Im buying two of these bikes, glad that there is some visual help out there!
@keithvnes4629
@keithvnes4629 2 жыл бұрын
Tanx for this video man!! This video help me and my friend with our build also learning now for the first time our own bike haha this is a overall video and help us alot tanx man
@vipindaspillai
@vipindaspillai 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best cb750 tech video.well explaining things is an art.and you are on it. 👍
@hamnchee
@hamnchee 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks I needed this.
@nine60xray18
@nine60xray18 4 жыл бұрын
Just watched it all. Great job man . I really Appreciate you taking the time to put something so clear and concise because ya there isn’t much for videos on the DOHC Honda’s that are helpful. This video is going to help me big time
@Gumaamug
@Gumaamug 4 жыл бұрын
You got it! Glad to hear I could hold your attention for the whole vid. I tried not to fluff it up with too much bullshitting and somehow still ended up with nearly an hour long video anyway. Oh well, the information is all there, I hope.
@justonovak8216
@justonovak8216 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Thanks for the time and effort. I have 1979 cb750K and you teach me, how to, really get done important task of maintenance.
@thirithheng902
@thirithheng902 2 жыл бұрын
Super clear explain, you detailed every steps which i couldn't find any specific than this. Thanks for the vdo🥰
@will7its
@will7its Жыл бұрын
Very well done video and your a natural teacher, and thanks for talking about the chain tension. I was just recently thinking about that. Bravo
@hilossrt4
@hilossrt4 9 ай бұрын
One of the best maintenance videos I have seen so far
@TheNcrye1
@TheNcrye1 2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@andymartell3704
@andymartell3704 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video, very informative.
@PITBOY911
@PITBOY911 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, thanks!
@MitchellTracy
@MitchellTracy 4 жыл бұрын
Yay, us older bike owners have to share info! Great video!
@Gumaamug
@Gumaamug 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. I wouldn't be as far as I am without shared knowledge and the generosity of the more experienced. Hoping to pay it forward with vids like this one.
@cadeng8168
@cadeng8168 3 жыл бұрын
This is a fantastic video. I just bought 2 1980 CB750Fs and this is exactly what I needed to get started
@cadeng8168
@cadeng8168 3 жыл бұрын
Also: if you do other, more niche maintenance jobs on your bike, it would be super cool if you documented that on video
@chicagovasko
@chicagovasko 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your information and overviews. The bike is gorgeous as well.
@Gumaamug
@Gumaamug 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad I could be of help to you
@benjaminchapman1387
@benjaminchapman1387 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! Awesome that you posted this! I just bought a '79 CB750K and this was exactly what I was looking for. Great tutorial and really informative. Thank you so much!
@Gumaamug
@Gumaamug 4 жыл бұрын
Good luck with your bike, I hope this helps you get it to a reliable place. Nothing like confidence in your work to make the ride that much sweeter.
@benjaminchapman1387
@benjaminchapman1387 4 жыл бұрын
@@Gumaamug Any chance we could get a list of tools that you said you set aside to figure out what you needed for your trip?
@Gumaamug
@Gumaamug 4 жыл бұрын
Sure thing, here's what I ended up with, including a couple of extra things that I didn't use in the video: Ratchet Small socket extension (4 inches) Sockets (mm): 8, 10, 12, 13, 14, 17, 19 Hex head sockets (mm): 3, 5 (these are for my case bolts, which I replaced with SS hex head bolts) Spark plug socket (M18) Assorted dental picks Box head wrenches (mm): 8, 10, 12, 14 Two adjustable crescent wrenches (for axle) JIS head screwdriver (better than Philips, you can look up why) Flat head screwdriver Small flat head/Philips head screwdrivers Feeler gauge set Wire strippers Vice grips Needle nose pliers Zip ties Metric allen wrench set All of this I fit in a $15 tool roll with spaces to spare. Some of it is probably overkill; I would hope to not have to remove the axle on a road trip because it means something has gone seriously wrong. But because I had the space it seemed wise to grab the extra stuff like the vice grips and wire strippers. Just in case.
@thomaseliopulos1762
@thomaseliopulos1762 9 ай бұрын
I have watched many videos and this was the most informative video that I have seen
@Gumaamug
@Gumaamug 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the compliment! I'm glad to have helped
@TheFelt13
@TheFelt13 Ай бұрын
This is amazing thank you!
@johnbradly3785
@johnbradly3785 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video: I would have suggested more detail, such as running carb adjustments, chain adjustment, and perhaps a sharp tool as a pointer instead of a finger in small or recessed areas, but this was a very well done, thoughtful, much-appreciated video and you have my sincere appreciation. Thank you. Hope you enjoyed your trip!
@FilterYT
@FilterYT Ай бұрын
You did an excellent job on these motorcycle videos, thank you very much!
@Gumaamug
@Gumaamug Ай бұрын
I'm glad to hear it, I hope they were able to help you in some way
@stevie764
@stevie764 Ай бұрын
Fantastic presentation on the nitty gritty stuff. well done
@Gumaamug
@Gumaamug Ай бұрын
Thanks stevie!
@joshuadulaney5559
@joshuadulaney5559 Жыл бұрын
X cellent my dude sweet bikes they r. Very awsome video work as well.
@fixpaana
@fixpaana 2 жыл бұрын
Well explained. Thanks 👌🏻
@1234vhhs1234
@1234vhhs1234 3 жыл бұрын
This is the best Noah Baumgartner video yet. Jk great stuff probably one of the best on KZfaq on the subject.
@andygriffiths8647
@andygriffiths8647 5 күн бұрын
Thank your for sharing, only just found your videos, but great clear info 🙂
@Gumaamug
@Gumaamug 4 күн бұрын
Better late than never. Glad you found this helpful.
@jackrichiedei
@jackrichiedei 4 жыл бұрын
Just found your post. My 81 F was just started in time for a May snow fall !. 15000 mi. on it . I bought it new in 1980 the same day I bought the naked GL1100. Use them both every Summer. Sounds like the cam chain needs snugging, bit of a whir. Also have been getting the idle clunking that is said to be the starter clutch bolts getting loose. Will do both before the season starts. Thanks. With my Yoshimura 4 to 1 it still turns heads. Got to love that in line 4 sound. Peace bro.
@Gumaamug
@Gumaamug 4 жыл бұрын
Love the backstory! The memories are the reasons we keep these lovely machines around!
@MitchellTracy
@MitchellTracy 4 жыл бұрын
On removing the shims, I use a dental pick to help break the surface tension of the oil. You can get them at county fairs @ a small item seller.
@omegaman4153
@omegaman4153 6 ай бұрын
Excellent.
@Chrizke22
@Chrizke22 Жыл бұрын
this video is a life save
@mikael7228
@mikael7228 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@murderousmushroom254
@murderousmushroom254 Ай бұрын
Great video! One thing you did leave out that is really important is that there are actually two lock nuts on the intake chain tensioner, the one on the bottom that you did, and one uptop that you missed. Loosen them both off then do the top one first, bottom one second
@Gumaamug
@Gumaamug Ай бұрын
It's been more than a few years since I rebuilt that engine, but my memory is that the top bolt is only connected to the mounting bracket of the tensioner inside, and the bottom bolt is connected through the bracket to the spring assembly. It wouldn't certainly wouldn't hurt to do both.
@murderousmushroom254
@murderousmushroom254 Ай бұрын
Awesome video though man, helped me learn a ton
@baldjeff
@baldjeff 4 жыл бұрын
seriously best video on youtube for dohc maintenance! ive been looking for one of those carb sync tools but cant find them. can you please post a link? thanks!
@Gumaamug
@Gumaamug 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. I believe I got both the sync tool and the vacuum gauges from vintagecb750.com. The driver is part no. 35-0084 and the gauges are part no. 35-0085
@gummitarzan8545
@gummitarzan8545 4 жыл бұрын
great video, please make more !
@Gumaamug
@Gumaamug 4 жыл бұрын
What do you want to learn about?
@gummitarzan8545
@gummitarzan8545 4 жыл бұрын
@@Gumaamug you should do videos whenever you do something on the bike, or other bikes if you have any.
@Gumaamug
@Gumaamug 4 жыл бұрын
That's the plan. My other bike is a fully restored '70 CL350, but there are plenty of 350 videos to go around. The next thing this bike will need is probably a carb clean a few months from now, and I will definitely be taping it.
@Caldtek
@Caldtek 4 жыл бұрын
You're better off adjusting the cam chains while you're doing the valves. While you have the cam cover off, loosen the lock nuts and turn the engine over in the direction of normal rotation. Watch the top of the cma chain tensioner and you will see if go up and down. when it is at its lowest point tighten the locknut. For the horizontal chain remove the bolt completely and shine a torch into the hole. Do the same again and when the rod for the tensioner the furthest in towards the cams and tighten the bolt.
@Gumaamug
@Gumaamug 4 жыл бұрын
Great technique! I'll add it to my repertoire.
@ericdrake3084
@ericdrake3084 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative, and thorough as well. Thanks for taking the time to go through these processes.
@roskin3030
@roskin3030 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Thanks so much. Working on a CB900c that’s been sitting for 10 years. Great explanations. Nice pace. Seemed like a strange coincidence but after I watched your video I saw a UPS ad on Facebook and the dude in it looked just like you. Was that you in the ad?
@Gumaamug
@Gumaamug 4 жыл бұрын
Haha that's me alright. I've got a lot of little hustles trying to add up to one normal life.
@edwardmulder3777
@edwardmulder3777 2 жыл бұрын
An old 900 would be cool
@ClassicRider
@ClassicRider 2 жыл бұрын
At location9:16 enlightenment begins - thanks !
@jackmckimm4651
@jackmckimm4651 2 ай бұрын
Very solid video as a new 750 owner this is gold, just wondering what the background slapping noise is at 23:36. Mine is making a similar noise after first start in a year and I'm just in the process of diagnosing.
@Gumaamug
@Gumaamug 2 ай бұрын
Hey Jack, I'm glad you find this video helpful. The sound that you're referring to is just the transmission rolling around in neutral. There is a lot of force in these engines and the primary drive is capable of turning those gears even at idle speeds. You'll notice as soon as you put the bike in gear that the sound goes away. This is because putting it in gear meshes the drive gears with your front sprocket, and if the bike is standing still then the inertia from the back wheel, transferred to the back sprocket, through the chain, and to the front sprocket stops the transmission from turning around inside the case.
@jackmckimm4651
@jackmckimm4651 2 ай бұрын
@@Gumaamug ah ok thanks for the detailed answer, I was kind of terrified I had spun a bearing or something as it's been sitting a while. I'll follow your tune up video before getting it on the road. Thanks again!
@edgarsotomayor6692
@edgarsotomayor6692 9 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot for your input. It’s really been helpful to me. I have a question or two. Maybe you can help me if you are kind enough. I have a 1980 Honda CB 750 F super sport which I just bought. I brought it home. It was working just fine. After I started working on it remove the gas tank replaced the spark plugs and the headlight. I went to go ahead and try to start after all that and it wouldn’t. It just give me a click out of the solenoid any idea what that could be why? I sure would appreciate your input thank you and I love your videos.
@Gumaamug
@Gumaamug 9 ай бұрын
Hi Edgar, you can find on my channel another video about testing the electrical system. It sounds like there's no power getting to your starter motor if the solenoid is clicking but the bike is not cranking. Definitely check your battery voltage with a meter while you have the starter button pressed. If the battery does not have over 12v with the bike off, it will not have enough juice to crank the motor. If the bike is new to you, I wouldn't be surprised if it needs a new battery. Otherwise you can check your ground connection from the battery (-) terminal, check your main 30A fuse in the solenoid. The electrical path to the starter motor is very direct from the battery through the solenoid. Good luck!
@andre-th2rw
@andre-th2rw 3 жыл бұрын
One very important thing to note when switching the valve shims, is NOT to turn the engine with any valve shims removed. I used this video and the FSM to instruct me as a newby and eventhough it seems obvious in retrospect this was not mentioned anywhere. As i was checking different shims to swap over i turned the crank and the camshaft scraped the spring holding the shims which caused a pit in the cam and bent my spring :(.
@Gumaamug
@Gumaamug 3 жыл бұрын
Ah damn Andre I'm sorry to hear that!! Yes like many things it seems obvious in retrospect, I'm sorry I didn't think to mention it in the vid
@AllThingsAlec
@AllThingsAlec 3 ай бұрын
HELP ME I’m not getting spark at all on my right side spark plugs. I’ve narrowed it down to this area. What do I need to fix? Do I need to replace the whole piece?
@bradbeall392
@bradbeall392 3 жыл бұрын
I just picked up a 1981 Honda CB750 Custom, and it’s my first 4-cylinder Honda. This video is very helpful - thank you! Just one thing that wasn’t covered - checking the oil level. When checking the oil level, after wiping off the dipstick, should it be screwed all the way back into the engine, or should it just be inserted to where the threaded area is resting on the top of the dipstick hole?
@Gumaamug
@Gumaamug 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Brad, it's the latter. You should also do this while the bike is warm-ish. Like, not after an hour long ride, but not when it's cold (because oil from the head collects back down in the crankcase). Ride it around the block a few times and then check. Cheers!
@bradbeall392
@bradbeall392 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gumaamug thank you!
@ClassicRider
@ClassicRider 2 жыл бұрын
Nice I have the CB750 1979 Limited edition - same engine, and I wanted to test the valve clearance's. I look forward to your knowledge - thanks btw: you answered a major question - at 4:57. I was concerned if able to remove the Valve Cover if enough clearance from the frame - thanks again -
@Gumaamug
@Gumaamug 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers! Make sure if you do take any shims out to swap them, do NOT rotate the cam while the shims are out. I did not mention this in the video and another commenter pointed out that he scratched up his cam doing so. It says it in the manual, it says it almost everywhere else, I just forgot to; always cross-reference info before trying something at home!
@ClassicRider
@ClassicRider 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gumaamug Thanks for the heads up on the shims. I will be be doing a lot of due diligence fore looking at the valves, where so far there are no overt issues. Except a leaky Valve cover where Ill check Vintage 750 for one My bike, 'Beauty' I bought new in 79. Stored her in 88 to raise my family. finally two years ago moved in retirement where having a garage to restore her. Last Summer was a great reawakening. I even got a M on my drivers license - I took a short 40 mile trip this morning. In Ct from Bridgeport area to Naugatuck and back. Earlier in the week, a trip was taken that was twice a long to Lime Rock Race Track. She holds together like a champion. Im running 10W30 but just got 10W40 to move to when learning that z70's are to have the latter. I have a Pizza Oven Gauge on my bike that read 220f once I stopped for a moment in Naugatuck . Back on the highway i got her down to 180f. I believe to 10W40 will prevent the excessive heating up. What is you opinion on that.
@Gumaamug
@Gumaamug 2 жыл бұрын
@@ClassicRider I know that part of the country well-- I think you'll be fine on 10W-40 and 180F sounds nice and cool to me. Leaky valve cover should be an easy fix. Congrats on getting back into it and enjoy the riding!
@ClassicRider
@ClassicRider 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gumaamug don't forget the gasket cement or you will have leaks around those camshaft covers -
@tomfrick9068
@tomfrick9068 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, been trying to tune my rebuilt engine and not to many videos put there. Quick question, when using the timing light and timing does the bike need to be running or can i do it by cranking the starter? Cause im not seeing the timing marks through the view hole.
@Gumaamug
@Gumaamug 4 жыл бұрын
Hey sorry I missed your question when you posted it. The engine does need to be running in order for the dynamic timing light to work. The bulb works by induction; it senses the pulse of electricity passing through the spark plug wire. If you're not seeing the hash marks while the bike is running with light attached, make sure your induction clamp is on the wire for cylinder 1 (or 4). If that is correct and you're still not seeing the hash marks, it's possible that your coils are swapped somewhere in the electric signal chain, and I imagine you would have a hard time starting the bike at all. I hope this helps. The alternative is a static timing light, but I have not used one on these bikes and cannot guide you there. Dynamic timing is always going to be better on these engines, because you do need to be able to check that the engine is advancing properly starting at ~1500 RPM and fully advanced by 3000, which you can't do statically.
@clydefallaw5190
@clydefallaw5190 3 жыл бұрын
This was exactly what I needed. I had a couple questions I was hoping I could ask you. What’s the best way to get in contact with you?
@Gumaamug
@Gumaamug 3 жыл бұрын
Clyde, check the About page on my channel
@Adm7869
@Adm7869 2 жыл бұрын
Great video mate! Quick question, is the timing plate engine cover a dry cover or is generally filled with oil when the bike is running ?
@Gumaamug
@Gumaamug 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! You can take off the circular timing plate cover while the engine is running but not the whole side cover as it does have oil behind it. By contrast, the stator on the opposite side (right hand) is a dry cover
@Adm7869
@Adm7869 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you , keep up the great content !
@MrFilgri
@MrFilgri 3 жыл бұрын
Hey bud! nice video! I just buy one of exactly that model and year... has a electric issue.. i change the Brushes, stator, regulator and battery... the problem has remain and i see that the roto doesn't has the right value on multemeter... yesterday i change the rotor to, and now the bike doesn't work... she's starts, do the spark, but not actually work... i think it was the cam chain pass some tooth... how i know what the right position of the chain? cheers from Portugal
@Gumaamug
@Gumaamug 3 жыл бұрын
On the left side of the engine where the pulsers are, turn the engine so that the index marker is lined up with the line labeled "1.4 T" - this means "cylinder 1 and 4 piston is at top dead center" - with the valve cover off, both cam sprockets should have punch marks (small dots) on the actual sprockets. There are two marks per sprocket, and they should form a straight line that is even with the surface of the cylinder head. On cylinder One, the cam lobes on both cams will be pointing in, toward the spark plug for cylinder One. If they are pointing opposite directions, rotate the engine 360 degrees. If the chain is slightly loose, which is likely, these marks will be off by a little bit, which is OK. If the chain has skipped a tooth on one or the other sprocket, it should be very obvious. Boa sorte!
@TheThiccCake
@TheThiccCake Жыл бұрын
I know this video is real old but would anyone be able to tell me if the chain is over tightened could this cause the oil light to come on because the pump is not being properly spun
@Gumaamug
@Gumaamug Жыл бұрын
That seems really unlikely to me. My guess is faulty oil pressure switch, bad wiring, or low oil
@luckyluciano8590
@luckyluciano8590 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve a ‘79 CB750K Limited Edition...it won’t idle at all. I need to get some tools in order to do a valve adjustment, that much I know needs to be done. After I’ve done a valve adjustment however, how do I go about setting the idle speed? I know tach on my bike is not super accurate, and I’ve heard they’re not accurate really at all at low speed...how do I go about getting a more accurate reading of my RPM so I can set the idle? And do I just set the idle with the screw underneath the carbs?
@Gumaamug
@Gumaamug 3 жыл бұрын
Idle speed is set with the black plastic knob underneath the carbs. This knob pushes against the rod connecting all carbs, so it is important to make sure the throttle butterflies are balanced as described in this video. It is true that the tachometers are not super precise, but they are more than good enough for setting the idle. You will also learn to interpret the idle by the way it sounds. There is a sweet spot below which the bike will sound irregular and/or die, and above which will sound obviously too high.
@jackrichiedei
@jackrichiedei 4 жыл бұрын
Aren't there 2 cam chain lock bolts for the vertical chain ?
@Gumaamug
@Gumaamug 4 жыл бұрын
There are two cap nuts that hold it in place; the top one does not lock/unlock the spring mechanism that the tensioner uses and it is not necessary to loosen it in order to adjust tension. In fact, you probably don't want to loosen that nut at all unless you're removing the tensioner.
@ThrillaPark
@ThrillaPark 4 жыл бұрын
I’m sure many would be interested in a carb video, btw..
@Gumaamug
@Gumaamug 4 жыл бұрын
I'll make sure to do one the next time I have the carbs off the bike. I learned a lot of important things to look for when I rebuilt them, fortunately for me after three attempts they are clean as a whistle and I shouldn't need to take them off until next year.
@davidguimont6616
@davidguimont6616 3 жыл бұрын
Hey man. Thanks for the great video. I'm buying a 1980 CB750 with 50k miles on it. It turns over but does not start. I am going to have the carbs rebuilt by a friend. I am going into this project pretty blind. I have always wanted to get into a project like this and I finally am pulling the trigger. Do you have any tips, videos, or any good source of information to help me out? I am mainly concerned about an engine rebuild. I know you can buy kits online, but I have not found any good sources yet. Thank you
@Gumaamug
@Gumaamug 3 жыл бұрын
Hey David, the good news is that there is plenty of information available for you. Start by Googling up a copy of the Factory Service Manual. If you can't find one, send me an email to the address in my About page. This will give you a step-by-step on how to dismantle the engine and provide you with tolerances so you can measure all the components and see if anything is worn out beyond its tolerance. Even just reading through will give you a great conceptual foundation for doing this work on your own. It's a good thing that the engine turns over. These bikes are built very well and there are probably very few things that you will need to replace. The first thing I would do is buy a compression gauge and measure the compression on each cylinder. If you are within the specifications that the manual gives, you probably don't need to rebuild it. However, it's a lot of fun and you will learn a lot if you decide to do so. Plan on buying a full engine gasket set; I recommend the brand Vesrah which is manufactured in Japan. You will also want to buy a set of engine seals. 4into1.com is a great resource for OEM and new seals. Seals can be replaced without dismantling, and in general it's a good idea to do so. Regardless of whether compression is low, if you take the cylinders off you will need to plan on honing them and replacing the piston rings. Piston rings need to "seat" in the cylinder wall in order to make good compression, and if you remove the cylinders you basically "unseat" them. If the cylinders are badly corroded, the next step would be having a machine shop bore them out by one size (the manual will have these specifications) and you will need to seek oversize piston rings. Again, this is all contingent on a failed compression test, so don't let it freak you out. Unless the bike was thrashed in its lifetime, the lower half of the engine (transmission, clutch) is probably fine. Remember that a bike needs three things to run: fuel, spark, and compression. The fuel system comprises the gas tank, gas lines, carburetors, and rubber intake boots. Pretty easy to make sure all of these parts are clean, and it's probably in your best interest to replace the old stiff boots with new ones to avoid potential air leaks into the fuel system. Make sure you buy OEM and not aftermarket; they are more expensive but for this specific part, necessary. The spark system comprises your electrics: battery, wiring harness, ignition coils, spark plugs, spark units, regulator/rectifier, stator, rotor, pulsers, starter solenoid, starter motor. A little more complex, but you can look up all of these terms to get a clearer picture of what they do. Know that the OEM spark units on these bikes tend to go bad and a recommended replacement is the Procom PE-C-MH900-A. You can get a set for about $79, and they bolt right in, no modifications necessary. New ignition coils are not a bad idea, and the combination of these two parts will actually produce a stronger spark than the stock configuration (Dynatek DC1-1 coils is what the community recommends; whatever you go with, make sure they are 3ohm coils, and you are using the spark plugs that are spec'd by the manual). Compression relates to the engine; start with a compression test and decide from there if you need a rebuild. You can google how to test compression correctly, but on this bike since there is no kickstart you will at least need to get the starter motor working to turn over and pump the pistons for you (back to electrics). Good luck, you are not alone and almost nothing is impossible to learn how to do on your own.
@davidguimont6616
@davidguimont6616 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gumaamug dude you are a legend hahaha. I feel like I know how to do everything I need just by reading this comment alone 😂 thanks so much, I can’t wait to get going. This was way more info than I was hoping to get so thank you so much
@Gumaamug
@Gumaamug 3 жыл бұрын
No prob, circle back with me in an hour or two, I'm currently posting another vid about the electrical system. And stay in touch!
@ClassicRider
@ClassicRider 8 ай бұрын
Hi TJ - Help Help - About a month ago, I got a 1981 CB750 Custom that has stacks and no airbox - Engine worked fine. I got it for my wife, and have done a number of repairs. Mater Cylinder, Turn Signal Switch, electrical shorts, etc. Similar to how the 750s' loose power when needing to go to reserve, suddenly "Babe' would loose power then jerk forward in full power. I assumed it was a dirty tank. Babe has a dirty tank, but does not seem to be the cause. The fuel regulator diagram that is mounted on top of carb 4 - the over flow tube would drip. I plugged it, and also found a replacement. Problem went away until I refilled the tank. So I added some gum out like before hoping that and spraying carb cleaner into the fuel hose going to the regulator diaphragm from the tank could correct issue like last time. Suddenly no fuel is getting to the carbs, but plenty going to the regulator diaphragm which has a vacuum hose coming from carb 2. I tried draining No 4's fuel bowl which appeared empty. Consider that Babe behave is running out of fuel, than that this regulator diaphragm might have an issue in letting fuel thru, I replaced it - Still no fuel to the carbs - Before doing a rebuild on carbs that normally run incredibly well, and even better than my original Limited's Carbs with an airbox, I am reticent to proceed any further with car rebuilds etc without your opinion Thanks for reading this - I hope I can get your thoughts on this -
@Gumaamug
@Gumaamug 8 ай бұрын
If I understand you correctly, your carbs still have the vacuum-activated regulator sitting on top. This is the disc-shaped valve (I think it looks like the Millennium Falcon from Star Wars) that accepts the fuel line from the tank and then feeds it into the carbs... These are notorious for being finicky and causing issues just like you described, and the good news is that the bike works just fine without it. Its only function is to stop fuel flow to the carbs when there is no vacuum, i.e. when the bike is off. You can remove it and run fuel line directly from the tank to the brass carb inlet that sticks up between carbs 1 and 2. You can put a rubber cap on the vacuum nipple that comes from carb 2. If you remove this regulator, you MUST treat the bike like an older model and turn off the fuel from the petcock whenever you're not running it. Otherwise you risk flooding the engine or dumping all your gas out through the carb overflow depending on how well your carb floats/float valves seal. This is an easy habit to get into and a small price to pay for not having to deal with this poorly designed part of the carbs.
@ClassicRider
@ClassicRider 8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for your reply, your help and your suggestions - I will follow your suggestion after one more attempt on a repaired Millennium falcon. Last night after the failure of the Ebay swap, I took apart the original. Two theories were confirmed. A- Its a vacuum controlled fuel regulator ( try finding anything about it in repair books - best of luck ) , and B- that it had ruptured. The Rubber diaphragm has a factory hole , and then a small torn hole that I figure would cause it to fail. Eventually I chose a tiny dab of hot glue to seal the rupture. I rubbed gasoline on it after to see if it would breakdown. It appears to be doing its job, but just a littler stiffer diaphragm - If this fails then I go to your solution - Per your solution you noted to make sure not to over flow the carbs when parked by turning off the petcock valve. That to me is best practice - Question - is your concern that the floats in the fuel bowls are not reliable? I will follow best practice then - Again thanks for the informative help -
@Gumaamug
@Gumaamug 8 ай бұрын
Floats and needle valves are as reliable as they can be, but you'd never want to find out the hard way that something had failed by waking up to five gallons of gasoline on the garage floor. Easier to just turn the petcock off every time you park the bike.
@ClassicRider
@ClassicRider 8 ай бұрын
@@Gumaamug After lunch im going with your recommendation as 1- Im not Sisyphus, and 2- My wife ( its her new 750) learned from the MSF to always turn off the petcock valve when not in use - Thanks again !
@ClassicRider
@ClassicRider 8 ай бұрын
@@Gumaamug Well Babe is running , but with dirt in the carbs - Ill vinegar the tank next week, and since I can get directly into the fuel line to the carbs now, ill use some carb cleaner to see about clearing the jets out ( I hope ) . I can get up to road speeds, but almost sounds like missing a cylinder - ( in power ) Wife wanted to know if ready yet? I explained besides dead stalls ( idle jets block) , that Babe could suddenly for a second or two be under full power and then run again in the dirty mode - She waited a month for me to get it road ready and she got to use it for a week until I refilled the tank - ((*&!^%)*@&^)$&) She rides well - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oNenjax4ta2tdac.htmlsi=T5AdFoaKGXQpbDMs
@tblackwell1
@tblackwell1 Жыл бұрын
I have a question that may be related. I just rebuilt one of these (1980 CB750F) and i had to fully clean my carbs and all of that. Im just now trying to start the bike and it wont really start, it just pops and smokes not really run. Would you think this would be a timing issue?
@Gumaamug
@Gumaamug Жыл бұрын
It could be a timing issue. If the cams were re-installed incorrectly (i.e. 180 degrees off) or if they are not in the correct position relative to each other (i.e. the smaller cam chain is installed on the wrong tooth of one of the cams), it could produce this symptom when you try to start. It can also be an ignition issue: if you have the two pulsars swapped somewhere in the wiring harness (check the CDI ignition boxes under the seat), meaning all cylinders are firing at the incorrect time. Or maybe spark plug leads going to the wrong cylinders: left ignition coil goes to cylinder 1,4; right ignition coil goes to 2,3. Another possibility is low compression due to worn out rings or incorrectly shimmed valves. Lots of things to check on a full rebuild, but if you go system by system you'll weed out the issue.
@tblackwell1
@tblackwell1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the quick reply. The motor was not rebuilt, just the bike itself. I did the carburetor service. I did change the coils as the stock ones were cracked, the firing order may actually be the issue. What’s the best way to test continuity between the phasers and the coil connections?
@Gumaamug
@Gumaamug Жыл бұрын
@@tblackwell1 The old-school test would be to just pop the spark plugs out of the head and ground them against the outside of the engine block one at a time while you crank the starter. You should be able to see the spark with your naked eye.
@gummitarzan8545
@gummitarzan8545 4 жыл бұрын
20:10 i stripped those. like you said, it took seriously no force to strip them. how would you fix this? helicoil/timeserts?
@Gumaamug
@Gumaamug 4 жыл бұрын
You could try to find the brackets themselves on eBay, or yeah put a helicoil in and retap the threads. I would absolutely take the brackets OFF your cams and do this on the bench. No metal shavings in the top end allowed!!
@gummitarzan8545
@gummitarzan8545 4 жыл бұрын
@@Gumaamug yeah. new bracket would probably be better. thanks.
@robertjrgensen4796
@robertjrgensen4796 4 жыл бұрын
Do you know when (and how?) to replace the cam chains. I bought a CB900F, with a 100.000km (62000miles) on it - and fugured it might be time to replace them entirely?
@mrsnezbit2219
@mrsnezbit2219 3 жыл бұрын
Usually every 50000 km it's time to replace them
@Gumaamug
@Gumaamug 3 жыл бұрын
That's pretty high mileage and I would probably replace them to be safe. Usually the best indicator is looseness in the position of the cam relative to the crank; the factory service manual has instructions on how to check that the cam and the crank are in the correct position relative to each other using a punch mark on the side of the cam and the timing hash marks on the crank. If you turn the motor with a wrench to the position indicated by the manual (usually 1+4 TDC), the punch marks on the cams may be off by a couple degrees, and that's a good indicator of cam chain looseness. The chain from cam to cam is pretty easy, you would just slide the new one on over the ends of the cams after freeing them from their brackets. The longer vertical chain from cam to crankshaft is a little more complicated and requires some special tools. You'd need to break the old chain, attach one end of the new chain to the old one with a piece of wire or something, and pull it through, down the bottom and around the crankshaft. Then use a master link and a chain tool to connect the two ends. Make sure you have the correct number of links on the new chain and that the motor doesn't turn while you do this, or your timing will be off and you could end up damaging a piston or valve. Use the same section of the FSM to double check that the cam and crank are in the correct positions relative to each other.
@ClassicRider
@ClassicRider Жыл бұрын
Hi Guma: Today under acceleration demand, gears seemed to slip from a higher to a lower gear once engine demand was in the higher gear. Are you familiar with this issue, or do you feel it might be a clumsy foot shifting down inadvertently - ? Thanks for your thoughts !
@Gumaamug
@Gumaamug Жыл бұрын
Can you describe it more specifically? Did the RPMs increase but the bike did not go faster? Could be as simple as clutch cable needing to be adjusted, or could be more serious like a worn out clutch. Or could be as you say a clumsy foot. Hard to tell based on your description.
@ClassicRider
@ClassicRider Жыл бұрын
@@Gumaamug I don't feel it was the clutch slipping, as was not a variable RPM like experience, and as I would need to re-shift up to the higher gear as it felt literally had shifted down as if i had done it - . Ill take her on a morning test drive for the near area tomorrow. _ The Clutch Cable Adjustment - were you suggesting more play ? Clutch seems to be quite fine as can handle low end torque from higher gears. .I have enough Horsepower and Torque that I can idle along in 5th gear in 25 mph zones quietly - Ill continue to see how she is doing tomorrow, as was hoping for a nice two or three hour trip in the county - Ill let you know what info I gather - thanks
@ClassicRider
@ClassicRider Жыл бұрын
I took her out yesterday for a two hour run with my dearest on back. No issues. Once Clutch Slipped. Only Once but under normal acceleration. I am able to drive low rpm in High gears at low speeds such as 25-30 with out slippage when adding demand in the throttle - This weekend Im going from 10W40 to 10W50 Motul Synthetic as my Pizza Oven Temp Gauge indicates a case temp of 200+ f on hot days - I figure this could affect the parts.
@Gumaamug
@Gumaamug Жыл бұрын
@@ClassicRider For what it's worth, I have always been told that synthetic motor oil will cause these types of wet clutches to slip. People on the internet have gotten outraged (surprise) when I've suggested that you should stay away from synthetic oil completely, but that's what I have done and I have never had slippage issues. Your mileage may vary. Keep me posted.
@ClassicRider
@ClassicRider Жыл бұрын
​ @Guma Ill let you know, thanks - if she slips, then Ill go old style and even try a 10W60 . I looked for issues like the after effects of additives etc. Only thing made clear is that it wont break down, and right now I can afford to hit 240f in a traffic jam in New England - Meantime I also hear how great it is. But I welcome your experience which should be accounted for. If my clutch starts to radially slip suddenly while under average demand, I will confirm it with you. And you are welcome to reference my cluster F'. I'm more concerned right now if I have to move the Long engine bolt to rotate the engine guard out of the way to look at the front left housing and possible lose parts which you have helped me with -
@fredmanson5751
@fredmanson5751 3 жыл бұрын
If your coming to Ohio let me know. I've got an 82 cb750f
@jamestobler8473
@jamestobler8473 2 жыл бұрын
Wish you were my neighbor!
@christ3831
@christ3831 2 ай бұрын
13:17 was that a lil toot?😂
@cycleclinic
@cycleclinic Жыл бұрын
Just a heads up. Synthetic oil Is 100% great with wet clutch. Almost all bikes have wet clutch and sport bikes need Synthetic oil. Honda,yamaha,suzuki, ktm,etc...... all offer thier own Synthetic oils. Motul 300v Ester Synthetic is absolutely the best oil for bikes. Even super anti wear additives won't affect wet clutches as they are designed to eliminate friction between metal on metal friction. The clutches are a fiber material on metal and the additives don't affect that friction that is what makes them work as they are designed to operate in oil. So everything else on your video I loved but your info on Synthetic is misguided
@adjective2078
@adjective2078 Жыл бұрын
use oil made for motorcycles. it is different. designed for also going through your "transmission" and clutch. the additives in car oil are bad for these things.
@ALEXANDERCRETA1
@ALEXANDERCRETA1 2 жыл бұрын
Oh i see New seat leather lets scratch it a little bit 🐈🐈🐈🐈
@Gumaamug
@Gumaamug 2 жыл бұрын
It's too real :(
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