I can’t agree more with you on this I would love a classic Cadillac but they want up in value I wouldn’t want to drive it everyday not with gas prices the way they are now but as a weekend cruiser I would love it

That was more for the ones of the 50s unless you were older it was usually the European luxury cars people would buy that showed you made it still a great car though

Not in the 80s. Maybe in the 50s and 60s and only in US

I had one a 1994 😊

Yeah but, if you had a Mercedes-Benz or a BMW or even an Acura Legend (which had just arrived) it gave a statement that you had made it even further than a Cadillac owner! You had to be there... Cheers!!!! 🥂

Yeah, sadly. I like my 86' FLTWD BRM D'ELG for the same reason but sadly I am trying to sell the thing because I need a newer car for work.

..and now it's difficult even to keep track of the alphanumeric model names!

They made that same exact model from 1980-1992 with different engine variations. They even kept recycling the same 3 or 4 grilles too!..lol. I don't think that Detroit has ever made the same model of any car that long! : ) The 90-92 had digital display, European headlights and a newly available Chevy 5.7 fuel injected 350. 90-92's were sharp!

@@jankypop-a-matic58 I think the 90-92 are great except for those stupid new headlights

Peaking in 91 and 92 with the 5.7 tbi chevy motor

@@jankypop-a-matic58 wrong panther platform Fords 79-11

@@V8Power5300 and don't forget, the door mounted seatbelts, a type of automatic seatbelt, used in a handful of GM car models in the late 1980s - mid 1990s, as many of the cars during this timeframe did not have airbags, a former neighbor a few yrs back had a 1992 Buick regal, that did not have airbags, but did have the door mount seatbelts.

Lawrence Hodge sure thing!

I agree, absolutely.

Exactly.

Larry, you are 1001% CORRECT!!

Lawrence Hodge what?!!! 140 hp on a car K W O W N FOR EXTREMELY OVERPOWERED motors???!!!! (since the heady precision beginning days of Cadillacs founder, hon. Henry Leland, who incidentally worked for FORD his hero, who he. designed the Lincoln for ( yes the original caddy was a Lincoln) And then 🔥 by for making non sensical statememts like " the motors of the future luxury cars will ALL have overpowered, interchangeable precision Parts) before going to dodge brothers and getting fired again for suggesting to make precision motors with INTERCHANGEABLE PARTS - heresy in 1906 because THEN you went to a blacksmith for a bit of hammering on an "identical part" for an hour or so to make it an identical part - HE THEN went to dodge brothers and boosted their motors h.p. By 30 % ( again heresy for to do that meant the dodge motor was inherently a bad motor to start with) finally he formed his own motor car company and made precision cars with a Swedish measuring Set with weights etc which the caddy museum has to this day. But alas i digress- listen bud 140 hp is AN EMBARRASSMENT for the glorious 🛡 and overlapping wreaths -this wasmt a caddy as much as it was a paper TIGER...

Sure does. I used to daily my 86 to school, good times

I had a 1988 Fleetwood with the Vin 9 170 HP 307, it was very smooth and had good torque. It would make the speedo quickly dissapear all the way to the right if you romped on it at slower highway speeds to pass. It shifted out of 1st gear about 60 mph and out of 2nd gear at about 100 mph.

I don't know if you've ever owned one but hitting the pedal and knowing that your moving 5.5k (+-) lbs of solid car trully is an empowering experience

@@BigRobChicagoPL it's a bucket list of mine. Closest I got was a '91 New Yorker fifth avenue but it's still a bit smaller I think.

@@mcp12300 it's a great car to own if you get the 86. The earlier models had problems with the computer and engine. Be careful with the amount of frame rust beneath as well. I live in Chicago and after keeping my Fleetwood in all season weather for a few years it began to rust horribly. Still a good car to drive though if you don't mind the 9ish mpg. I only sold it after I had problems with the transmission because mine was shifting kind of sloppy. Will tell you that it never died on me though and I could always count on the OLDS 307 v8 to crank over and get me on the highway to work! Good luck. I owned mine 2013-2017

@@BigRobChicagoPL neat. Thanks.

I showed dad your video. He went on and on about his first Caddy. It was 1986 Brougham Navy blue with blue leather. It had "true" spoked rims and a gold strip along side the whitewall. After that, he bought new a 1995 Fleetwood de'Elegance and now has a 2010 DTS. "you'll never again have the ride of those old Fleetwoods", he says. I remember taking my driving test in the 1995 when it was brand new. The examiner was more interested in cruising around in the big Caddy, than watching what I was doing lol

I think it was the tire itself that had the gold line beside the whitewall. Maybe a specific brand? All of the badging etc was chrome. My Grandpa managed a Chev Olds Cadillac dealership all of his life. He had a brand new Cadillac every year as a demo up until he passed away in 2002. I got the first ride in each one. I bought the 1994 Sedan Deville in Pearl White with a Blue Landau roof and white leather interior that my Grandma drove until 2005. it's finicky but I love that car. I'm not a fan of the DTS. it's pretty but it's not a "real" Cadillac in my opinion :)

Those tries were called Royal Seal tires. Made by Uniroyal.

Find yourself a RWD Fleetwood Brougham. You can still get them cheap if they need restoration. The good years are 1986-1992. The 5.0 or 5.7 engines are very good. They will run forever.

I daily an 86 and it's a sweet car. I agree they run mint alright! Bought mine little over 5 or so years ago from a family that passed away and had not invested a single buck into repairs! Very happy with the 5.0 L olds 307 performance! Funny your profile picture as I have a white one that looks just like that!

I know the feeling. A few people in my family that 15-year-old Rob used to chauffeur around on his driver's permit in the 86 Fleetwood are also no longer with me today. It hurts a lot and it makes it worse that I had to let the car go...and I found out it was scrapped. I am in my early 20s now but my heart health is pretty poor from being 6ft9in tall. I just appreciate every single day that we are here on earth. Every day is important.

Yeah I know what you mean with power. Where I live there's a road that goes 55 and to merge it was a good 25 seconds with the foot down to get up to speed. Still pushing the gas made me feel like the king of the road as this huge 5.500 pound boat floated down the road. Me and my friends loved driving around after class

I never understood what all the fuss was about road feel. Loved being able to steer with one finger and have the car absorb road imperfections. Living rooms on wheels aren't supposed to not lean when you turn. This type of vehicle is long gone and sadly missed.

me too ive had many Caddies, and I wish they would go back to cars like these. Had a BMW and hated the thing...couldn't wait to get rid of it and get another Caddy.....

@@AlexanderCrump I asked a car reviewer who has been at it for 40+ years what the closest thing today would be and he said an Escalade or Navigator but that they handle better.

I suspect the low hp rating is partly due to the changes in the way horsepower was reported--that large engine was probably not as 'wimpy' as the hp figure suggested.

Agreed! I am glad to hear someone out there with the same idea as I have. My daily driver is also an 86' FLWT Brougham D'elegance like you said the thing is (almost) imaculate. Coming from the fact that I live in Chicago, I am surprised as to just how little rust had come out over the years. Another whacko attribute is the gas. Sure the things are gass guzzlers but that does not stop me from driving (however tables have turned and if you see on another video I am trying to sell my brougham since high school is ending). Man though I would have loved to be able to afford one of these back in 86'. My parents migrated from Poland around that time with no money and they were driving around a moss covered Mitsubishi that stalled just about everywhere it went and was so rotten that the frame was bending.

I live in Montreal and even drive it in the winter! They stand up to rust very well if you're careful and get them rustproofed every year. I've got a few bubbles under the paint on my trunk (it's been repainted by a previous owner and it's not the best work) So i'll clean up the rust spots myself until I can convince myself to spend the money to have it all repainted it's original dark blue :)

Man blue is nice. I do not like mine since the white color shows paint chips and rust spots like a flashing buoy in the ocean. If I had the money then I too would treat my car with the amount of dedication that you have. The sits outside all spring summer and fall, then goes into the garage all winter long, with occasional startups and short drives. The previous owner (like me owned the thing all high school long) also did the same loop, putting away the car for winter. I do not even know where to get a car rust proofed. I think mine was under the car though since it has almost no rust there. Now that we are talking about Cadillacs I think I might take mine out later today!

Did these cars have tape players?

Yeah, well mine does at least. "Symphony Sound"

C. Lassard sure does float! The horn was always tempting for me too lol.

GM used a three-horn setup on a lot of Cadillacs which gave them a distinct sound. I don't think Lincoln or Chrysler/Imperial did this.

My grandparents had an 87. Luxury at its finest!

The current GM cars as a whole are "eh" at best. Chevy is a bit more likable but honestly today I'll stick to Honda. I really loved my 86 Brougham for the feeling of power you get when you drive a massive boat down the road, steering with nothing more than a finger while the shining cadillac hood ornament guides you home. Today everything has to be sports stiff suspension and rock hard bucket seats on untasteful modern style. Not my cup of tea those new Cadillacs as they are more race car then comfy car

He probably owns the police

My dad use to have. One two 😔

In heaven I hope to go on a road trip in one of these. That sounds so amazing .

Who wouldn't! I'd love to own a beast like this new!

New too, back in time & driving a new Cadillac like this one.

Doug Mammaro And give it the Doug score

Really does! I can't wait to get out of college and pick myself up another 86 Brougham D'Elegance

Oh yeah, I can second that. Even at this age they still cruise

Greetings from California. I am down here on the rust belt in Chicago. The only classic Cadillac I ever owned was a 1986 Fleetwood Brougham D'elegance with a white body on white vynil top, with white button seat interior on red dash pieces. Really love these cars and am planning on getting another after college.

Elegant automobile for elegant folks

Fernando Rocha AND a massive 140 hp yoweeee! This thing looked good but was a paper tiger because americas designers were still-living in the near past and never stored their " nuts away" the only one who had its nuts stored away was this POOR THING of a car- talk about IMPOTENT- So sad- once an automotive leader - sinking to an all time low / a marque which euope once admired and loved dearly- Now for 1986 ladies and elegant classy ladies the one the only TAR PIT dinosaur! i bow my head in sadness to this retarded epoch in american carbuilding- dont worry next week we will discuss another classic, the CHEVY tiburon??!! (LOFL then crying) Cadillac wasnt officiallyalive again until 1997- All things auto aside God bless everyone in here and may you ALL have the BEST NEW YEAR OF YOUR LIVES! Gn everyone!

Honestly it makes the car larger in appearance. From the Cabin you feel like a king with that huge hood in front of you

eldo59 Sure thing!

Joseph Linz sure is :)

Haha yes, my girl friend made jokes about that same thing. I appreciate your comment and I agree that this car is not something for the average joe. Mine may be beat but I still feel like a real king getting around town on those buttoned leather couches!

I am british and I agree with you I want a lincoln of same generation 80s/early 90s I'd buy both if I had the chance then could be greedy need a big bloody garage 😁

@@jaycormack4118 We are lucky. We live in an apartment but have space for a 1975 Continental Mark IV, a 1989 Cadillac, and a 2018 MX-5 side by side in the basement parking. 😊

@@KoldingDenmark very nice I'd love a american luxury car haven't got one just yet thanks for your reply you must have a white collar job owning such cars expensive to insure here in england and the gas

@@jaycormack4118 I never had what you might consider a well paid job, though it is what you may call white collar. But when I was single and ever since we became a couple, one of the things we share is not wasting the money we have and take good care of what we have, so it lasts. If i.e. the clothes and furniture you buy is more expensive, it lasts. As for car insurance, US cars are not as expensive as German performance cars. If you give an annual mile / KM max to the insurance company, which is realistic for you, you can negotiate. Our insurance company is good. It also covers our sailboat. AND they do cover the damage, if you are unlucky. Maintenance is not more expensive. Find and stick to a trust worthy garage. Gasoline. .. If you compare to 1980, it is not so bad.

if it ain't broke don't fix it basically

hialeahsprings They put in an OLDS 307 which is a decent ICE, though I did read of GenMotors undertuning it to appeal more to the "slow and steady" elderly market that was buying these things. Honestly I dont mind the speed. These are really nice cars to have!

I got stuck in the mud 4-5 times in this car 😂

My mom had an '88 and it was very comfortable and quiet! Could you imagine how fun that car would be if you dropped a Cadillac 1968 high compression 472 V8 in it? : )

@@jankypop-a-matic58 I ls swapped mine. The 5.3 fits right in. It's a super comfortable decently fast car. Handling is actually pretty acceptable.

The under powered 307 would burn more gas than the 350....I still have my 86 and 93....not my daily drivers anymore, my classics

I had the 86. Very nice cars and would also love to have one now. Also notice how these large sedans are considered very luxurious now, with cars like the Genesis G90 and Rolls Royce following suit

@@BigRobChicagoPL My '89 was basically the same (same color and with the leather DeElegance package) as shown in the video. 86-89 is the "sweet spot" for this platform as it avoids the HT-4100 and since the Olds 307 was carb instead of FI, Even I can work on them, LOL. My only "beef" is that the "Fleetwood" name was removed from these in '87, leaving only "Brougham". (I felt CHEATED!) I actually replaced the "Cadillac" script with a "Fleetwood" script onthe trunk that I got from a '80-'84 ish Fleetwood Brougham,LOL. You see a lot of people complain that these are slow...Yeah, That misses the ENTIRE MISSION of this car. (Get a Camaro if you need to win the "stoplight drag"!) These were PERFECT for a city (esp in a place like Pittsburgh,PA) commute where SILENT COMFORT is the goal. My current car (2010 Buick Lucerne) is about the only US car that still had that as it's design goal. 👍😊👍

@@jamesslick4790 oh you can tell me about it being slow haha. 16 year old me and my friends after highschool used to mash the gas pedal to the floor and laugh at how snail like this thing was. Still, with a great sound system the thing was a serious cruiser to school, and I got a lot of attention from it

Yikes! But yes these things are tanks. My 86 got hit by a plow truck. Still drove and looked fine, just had minor frame damage

Furry Or "I'm bi" on the hood

Mega Sonic Hahahahaha! Topgear is the best!

These really are super. You should have seen the look on my face when I saw the white 86 for sale when I was 14. I told my Pap and immediately I picked it up off the owner a few blocks away. I couldn't even drive yet but I would sit for hours in the garage with the radio turned on just chilling with it. Loved learning to drive and using it for high school and hang outs. Surprisingly reliable too considering it was already almost 30 years old at the time. Too bad I had to give it up for University though. I am planning on buying another one when I finish school and buy my own home. Do you plan on ever getting another?

Great car indeed. I had the 70 spoke vogue true wire wheels and vogue gold stripe whitewall tires that gave the car a Vegas look. I was able to get it to run like a swiss watch and even though the engine lacked power, I could still bury the speedometer (took awhile to do so et,al but..:-P it had a dead smooth idle and smooth graceful performance. I've owned 8 cars in my life and my 87 Brougham is 1 of 2 cars that I have the fondest memories of. BTW the 70 spoke wire wheels are no longer available from GM or Vogue but Dayton makes an exact replica of those classic Cadillac wire wheels.

dstarks80 I loved that car. Mom had an '88 d'elegance with moonroof, memory seats, level control, real wire wheels with Royal Seal gold stripe tires and all the gadgets you mentioned. Very nicely loaded car! I would love to have a mint 1992 similar Brougham with the 350 5.7 with digital dash in triple black with red pinstripes. Anyone know where I can find one??? Best driving Caddy I had was a triple black 1978 Coupe De'Ville my mom handed down to me. The 425 V8 was smooth and had nice torque. Interior and dash was almost identical to the 88. Those cars were the same for years!

My Dad had the cream yellow with sun roof...Makes me miss him.

Congrats! I wish I still had mine, had to sell because of University commute.

Oh yeah I still smell the interior in my mind even thinking about it!

Don't forget about the floaty suspension and comfortable ride. I really don't like how all the new cars are "sporty" with hard suspension and seats.

idkpickone 45 I know my mother and dad has that jaguar XF and the SUV and my Roadmaster rid better than both.plus I just redone the suspension all new parts front and back

Full frame and no freak wheel drive for the win

Same boat as you. I had mine 2014 to about 2017. My mom taught me how to drive in it and she would go on scenic drives with me every single Saturday for two hours so I could practice in the countryside. Good memories. Also loved being able to drive it to highschool!

Yeah, I really do hate the fact that modern Cadillacs are these sportsy things with tough suspension and legit rock hard seats. I want something soft and smooth to cruise around in, otherwise I'd buy a sports car.

Robert PL9501, If you want a BMW by a BMW!! Cadillac should not try to be something else, that’s why they only sold 350,000 units last year compared to 700,000 units in 1986

Dont forget about horrible GM reliability nowadays. I drove my 86 Fleetwood for 5 years until college time and it always started in winter and summer. I drove the thing on 2 hour trips with no issues. Very simple car and the worst thing on it was a leaking ac line, which really ain't that bad for a 30 year old car. Meanwhile we bought a brand new cad in 2010 and it was nothing but unreliable garbage. Even puked coolant

@@BigRobChicagoPL It isn't/wasn't that the 307 was a bad engine ( the 4.1 certainly was!) but it was so difficult to get through an emissions test at the time, that it wasn't funny. The biggest problem was the super highway rear gear ratio that GM stuck in these cars, trying to get some EPA mileage requirements. That and a super lazy 200-4R trans.The later 1s with the 700r4 and Chevy engines really moved out rather quickly for their time. If you haven't driven an 89-91 Brougham with a 5.7, you should. Everything you loved about your 86, with the kind of power you wished you had. Reliability was even better.

@@adamtrombino106 oh no I wasnt bad talking my Fleetwood, I meant the new one my parents got in 2010. My 86 with the 307 olds was perfect aside some minor trouble

I really miss mine too!

It's always saddening to hear of someones passing but I am glad that you preserved his legacy at least with the Fleetwood. My 86' also came from someone who had passed and I made sure to treat it with as much respect as I could, knowing that at one point these were expensive cars. I appreciate the story and wish your uncle good luck in the next world!

¡Estoy de acuerdo!

No problem. Cool!

What year did they drop the Fleetwood badge on the cars? I own an '88 and often wondered why it only says brougham d'elegance. Thanks for the info.

YES YES!!! I COMPLETELY AGREE! Sorry about the caps but you got me there with the EXACT mentality that caused me to buy my 86 Brougham! My Ma' bought a 2010 Cadillac and the thing has suspension so firm that you feel every and any little bump! What I love about my 86' is when there are speed bumps I don't need to slow down! My favorite part about the fleetwood suspension though is the air ride. If you walk up to my car and press down with your hand the whole thing dips. Really light and wavy. This is great for bumps because it makes you feel like you bounce over it rather than run over. Haha, great car though overall and very very dependable for a daily driver. I’ve not invested anything in mine other than money for gas and oil. Also, to answer your question of handling, it actually is quite the queen in my opinion (had mine for 4 years now, drove a Honda Odyssey before that). Yes the acceleration is a bit slow but I actually have more fun being able to floor the pedal and hear that OLDS 307 V8 roar rather than in today's cars where the most you can do is lightly tap the pedal and hear a pathetic 4 cylinder baby wine a little. Where is the fun in that? The funnest part about driving one of these (other than looking and feeling like a king) is turning. This once again has to do with the air ride suspension. If you turn then the whole car dips to one side and it really does feel like a boat (haha if you get it)! Very easy to drive too and the power steering is so lazy that I drive with a finger on the wheel, even when turning.

I know these cars and older ones very well!! Im 51 so I was born in 1966 and was of driving age in the mid 1980s thats when I got my first car, a 1973 Delta 88 Royale. A year later I bought a 1966 Toronado, then in 1985 a 1970 Mark III AND in 1989 I bought my 1967 Thunderbird Landau Coupe. Aside from the Delta 88 I still have the other three cars! How cool is that to have TWO cars since I was a teenager Toronado 18, then at 19 the Mark III. I intend on keeping them till I drop dead so..... LOL should be about 32 more years : )

Robert Niemczyk I added a pair of flowmaster mufflers and a cold air intake to my Caddy and it added some horsepower which she was really needing. She growls now, not too loud but sounds mean.

what is air ride suspension?

its the "european ride" and i hate it...we dont have backroads, we have flat straight highways, give me one of these to drive, not some dumb BMW...

My first car was an 86 Brougham D'Elegance. Absolutely lovely but definitely an interesting choice for 16 year old me back in the day. I miss that thing

Just curious as to why you have an apostrophe on all your words that end with an "S"?

Gotta love them! Back when I owned one of these land yachts mine was white ext. white leather seats with red dash red carpet. Cannot beat the look of these and for sure nothing compares to the ride!

I guess I got lucky. I put 15k miles on mine between 2014 and 2017 and had to do nothing to the car besides oil changes. I noticed later on it did get a lot of attention though and that wasn't what I was going for. I had a big obsession with 80s things when I was younger and I never expected one of these landyachts to get people talking like it did. I should mention though mine leaked oil so you always knew where I parked

Sure thing. Not really a fan of the new sporty feel for the current GM Cadillacs though so I am no longer a customer for them. Really did like my Brougham though (my first car) but when my parents picked up the 2010 SRX I was a little disappointed with the build quality and feel.

Well said!

A reasonable place to take a trip

I had a Buick Roadmaster with Twilight Sentinel. I never used it because I didn't want to get used to it in case my next car didn't have a similar feature.

I just hate the sports feel of new cars. Why can't I as a consumer get something laid back and relaxing to drive? Even Cadillac is turning it's sedans into race cars with still seats and rock hard suspension riding with a touchy engine. Screw that I'll stick to my Fleetwood (need to get another one since my transmission failed and for now I'm stuck with an 03 Odyssey, which isn't that bad but definitely nothing neat the old Cadillac in comfort)