1988 Worlds Ladies event medal ceremony

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Benoit Lefebvre

Benoit Lefebvre

16 жыл бұрын

Feast your eyes. The end of an era as the legendary Katarina Witt wins her last of 4 world titles. A rare and never seen before sweet moment between Witt and Thomas on the podium as they give each other a hug. History there for sure..

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@sayitloudblcknproud
@sayitloudblcknproud 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful Debbie Thomas! She's such a pretty lady, even today.
@nicolini4110
@nicolini4110 6 ай бұрын
Katharina Witt.Einfach immer noch faszinierend ❤
@av4l4rion
@av4l4rion 6 ай бұрын
Debie Thomas is an inspiration to me. She studied medicine and did figure scating until the olympics and would have been able to win, after the short program she was on first place...
@ingridasaveja5491
@ingridasaveja5491 10 ай бұрын
Katarina! You are the best!
@yvonnemeneksheikram5785
@yvonnemeneksheikram5785 4 жыл бұрын
I could watch this over and over again. What an era of great skaters! I was watching this as a teenager from behind the iron curtain together with my mom. We were dreaming of the golden West...but it appears we had a great time in the East as well.
@user-fv4cs3fr5i
@user-fv4cs3fr5i 4 ай бұрын
Ich auch!!!
@user-kf8wb2cq4f
@user-kf8wb2cq4f 10 ай бұрын
What was Heartbreaking about Debi Thomas is how she fell apart in her Final 2 Big Competitions. She was so prepared, trained and talented......yet she Burned Out in her last competitions.
@pasimaenpaa2360
@pasimaenpaa2360 5 жыл бұрын
i think this is a rare footage. katarina is beautiful, classy, talent lady. thank you, benoit lefebvre
@user-ti8et6gh5z
@user-ti8et6gh5z 5 ай бұрын
Tres bel anniversaire katarina la plus legende éternelle et la plus grande carmen pour toujours. Sublime perfection de beauté et absolue. Magnifique de beaute. Quelle sublime merveille.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@evgeniya1399
@evgeniya1399 3 жыл бұрын
Витт и Гордеева были самые красивые фигуристки..
@julielabelle2907
@julielabelle2907 2 жыл бұрын
Нзнси Керриган и Кристи яамаяучи
@Nata34Moscow
@Nata34Moscow 2 жыл бұрын
@@julielabelle2907 Кэрриган??
@julielabelle2907
@julielabelle2907 Жыл бұрын
@@Nata34Moscow да очень красиво
@RDA-eg2em
@RDA-eg2em 3 жыл бұрын
Das beste was je auf dem Eis stand....KATARINA WITT unsere Prinzessin
@davidliers9215
@davidliers9215 3 жыл бұрын
Königin bitte !
@user-xf7qz5ke7w
@user-xf7qz5ke7w 3 жыл бұрын
Nicht nur Ihre! Sie ist sehr beliebt!
@yurizivago3641
@yurizivago3641 10 жыл бұрын
Ciao Katarina, sei stata semplicemente unica!
@L_91r
@L_91r 3 жыл бұрын
Какая женственность даже в поклоне ‼️Харизма необыкновенная ‼️Bravo ‼️Katarina, Du bleibst die Königin der Herzen!
@user-gb1mj4ob7o
@user-gb1mj4ob7o Жыл бұрын
Воспитанница Юты Мюллер (школа Карл-Маркс Штадт)
@deborahleak1833
@deborahleak1833 2 жыл бұрын
It's 2022. It still hurts to see my absolute favorite skater not at her best. Debi will always my sentimental favorite. Win,lose, or draw..... Debi you still Rock!!!
@deborahleak1833
@deborahleak1833 2 жыл бұрын
God bless you Deb.
@user-ve9tx2xq8x
@user-ve9tx2xq8x Жыл бұрын
А кто это Дэбби?!
@222mozart
@222mozart 13 жыл бұрын
Wonderful Kati !
@alwonderb0y
@alwonderb0y 15 жыл бұрын
Debi realized she has to be a sport in everyway. what a sweet way to go!!! More power to them!!!
@marietinebs3630
@marietinebs3630 2 жыл бұрын
Jedes Mal kommen mir die Tränen,was für herausragende,sympathische Läuferinnen. Vielen lieben Dank für das großartige Video.👏 🌺
@tyronelewis2430
@tyronelewis2430 3 жыл бұрын
I like the relationship between Witt and Manley
@caroschroeder2246
@caroschroeder2246 11 жыл бұрын
Our old GDR-hymn and the old flag ... it's very strange to hear and see today ...
@jamesfox6909
@jamesfox6909 5 жыл бұрын
I cried and cried and cried watching this as a young boy. I thought I’d never see my Katarina again as she was going to be locked up in East Germany and never let out. What a dumb kid I was. Lol. Thank god the wall fell and she could enjoy a free life.
@CarstenOepping
@CarstenOepping 3 жыл бұрын
we are not "locked up" in the GDR. and Kati could and did travel anywhere she wanted. but she was always patriotic and loyal to the socialist fatherland. for the so called "western freedom". its just bullshit. we (as a whole society) were much more free in the GDR than since 1990. with capitalism takes over 95 of all factories got forc3fully closed. we had unemployment rates of 70% in some regions and overall 45%. 4 million young people are leaving the country because of sudden poverty. eastern Germany is today poorer than ever before. the birth-rate is the lowest in the world. millions of my fellow countrymen in east and west are sad that wall came down. Greetings from East-Germany.
@rekr3316
@rekr3316 2 жыл бұрын
Was für ein Quatsch Du hier schreibst! Ich komme auch aus der DDR und kann sagen, das nichts von dem, was du hier zum besten gibts, auch nur annähernd stimmt!
@rekr3316
@rekr3316 2 жыл бұрын
What a bullshit! I’m from the GDR as well and your comment is completely nonsense!
@48677
@48677 2 жыл бұрын
Ignore the communists. Almost all East Germans are happy the wall came down and the region is economically much better now.
@ralphderkapitaen9875
@ralphderkapitaen9875 2 жыл бұрын
@@CarstenOepping you sound like some communist pig! Pretty much everybody in the GDR was locked up, and couldnt freely travel and leave the country. Maybe to Hungary or Russia, if they behaved. But certainly not to the west. The GDR was a totalitarian criminal system!
@SMGJohn
@SMGJohn 4 жыл бұрын
The best anthem in the world.
@yaokomatu4016
@yaokomatu4016 5 ай бұрын
Ekaterina Gordeeva's book, "My Love Sergey," describes Katarina Witt’s harassment of Debi Thomas. During practice, when a Carmen song by debi thomas was played, KatarinaWitt intercepted the song and began to slide, which troubled Debi. Ekaterina said, "Katarina Witt knew how to win. Unfortunately, figure skating is a sport. It was written that the one with the most points wins, it can't be helped. In modern times, Kim Yu Na is like that, right? It's true that I won with a high score...lol
@barkingtree88
@barkingtree88 16 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! It's good to see that Debi and Kat ended on good terms.
@martinlalonde979
@martinlalonde979 4 жыл бұрын
Personne ne doit oublier que Katarina Witt et Midori Ito sont les deux seules patineuses a avoir présenté deux triples en combinaison dans cette compétition.
@renavogel7114
@renavogel7114 3 жыл бұрын
Das ist mein Land und wird es immer bleiben, auch , wenn man uns alles weggenommen hat. Kati, Du bist und bleibst unser ganzer Stolz. 💖👍
@rekr3316
@rekr3316 Жыл бұрын
Super, wenn man einer Diktatur hinterher trauert, die viele hundert Menschen erschossen hat, die einfach nur woanders leben wollten, die ihre eigenen Menschen bespitzelt hat, Regimekritiker in Zuchthäuser gesperrt und gefoltert hat (kannst du jetzt noch in Berlin besichtigen), für hunderte Zwangsadoptionen verantwortlich ist und staatliches Doping durchgeführt hat. Großartig, wenn man sowas toll findet…
@bennyisrael2967
@bennyisrael2967 9 жыл бұрын
Great anthem, shame we no longer here it. :
@mattg.812
@mattg.812 6 жыл бұрын
Lol
@johnlynch9858
@johnlynch9858 6 жыл бұрын
Benn
@arvindsama
@arvindsama 4 жыл бұрын
Dude the East German anthem is better then west German anthem
@chrisbar6230
@chrisbar6230 3 жыл бұрын
youtube
@Sungawakan
@Sungawakan 3 жыл бұрын
You do not hear it because the GDR is not here anymore.
@AsksOneThing
@AsksOneThing 11 жыл бұрын
Liz Manley was only 4th after the figures and technical program. She was indeed first in the long program, but coming from fourth, that wasn't enough to lift her to the gold.
@russianskatingfan
@russianskatingfan 7 жыл бұрын
4th place for Manley in the short was right. However with Witt being 2nd in the short which was also right, had Manley won both the figures and long she would have won. And all that saw the figures here say it was ridiculous Witt passed her from behind on the loop (her worst figure) to win figures, and Manley deserved to win the long over Witt too even though neither had a great skate. I actually think she has a better case of being robbed of the gold here than in Calgary, despite that she skated better in Calgary.
@shane802
@shane802 11 жыл бұрын
Good to see Debi reach out the Katarina! Props Debi ;)
@user-kf8wb2cq4f
@user-kf8wb2cq4f 10 ай бұрын
You know...Tradition is the Champion "reaches" down to the other medalists...acknowledging the other athletes.
@ruipinheiro447
@ruipinheiro447 2 жыл бұрын
An Angel on skates
@metsdudenj
@metsdudenj 15 жыл бұрын
amazing tidbit thanks for much for sharing, its cool to hear what happened behind the scene
@nadiarodriguez4834
@nadiarodriguez4834 7 жыл бұрын
I read somewhere that the "little talk" the 3 skaters had on the podium was that Liz congratulated Debi for her recent marriage, and Katarina was like "you got married? and I just found out?" :D
@gertieshaw90
@gertieshaw90 6 жыл бұрын
Nadia Rodriguez I just read this comment a year later but it's still terrible to spread such lies. Debi Thomas was married March 15, 1988 and the Olympics were held February 13 and 28, 1988. There is no way they would have congratulated her for getting married.
@MrOu83
@MrOu83 6 жыл бұрын
Gertie Shaw - Wrong!! This was not the 1988 Calgary Olympics. This was the 1988 World Championships in Budapest, Hungary. Debi Thomas did get married between those two events. By all accounts, the conversation among the women on the panel centered around that.
@victoriagill3337
@victoriagill3337 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. The medal ceremony from the European championships this year was similarly interesting in that when Ivanova and Kondrashova reached across in front of Witt to congratulate each other they knocked her off the top of the podium 😂
@msmo2060
@msmo2060 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrOu83 Olympics 1988
@mikes7823
@mikes7823 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrOu83 you’re right! Liz Manley wrote about this in her autobiography, “Thumbs Up!”
@chrisbar6230
@chrisbar6230 3 жыл бұрын
I AM CRYING.
@kimwaddell4218
@kimwaddell4218 2 жыл бұрын
I love Katrina "s dress.
@cassandraalampi5140
@cassandraalampi5140 23 күн бұрын
Still Debi is a Legend ❤
@parakeet8157
@parakeet8157 2 жыл бұрын
Great sportsmanship.
@XYZUNKNOWN
@XYZUNKNOWN 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for uploading.
@danielgyllenbreider
@danielgyllenbreider 11 ай бұрын
Best Germany was Best Germany. Simple as that. And Katarina Witt was a great German patriot. I will always have the deepest respect for her and her wonderful country that was unfortunately dismantled.
@garyjones8197
@garyjones8197 9 жыл бұрын
I used to watch Katarina a lot back in the 80s and I had a crush on her back then. I still do today as recent pictures show that she is aging just fine. Interesting note on Katarina: she has never married and does not have any children. She is currently single and free! ;)
@russianskatingfan
@russianskatingfan 7 жыл бұрын
Witt is an obvious closet lesbian so she will probably always be single and free.
@MrOu83
@MrOu83 7 жыл бұрын
gary jones - I suspect she is a lesbian as well. To be clear, that is not a bad thing.
@conniebarnes9274
@conniebarnes9274 6 жыл бұрын
gary jones, Maybe she doesn't like men or women.
@MrOu83
@MrOu83 6 жыл бұрын
roger leblond - I also believe Katarina is a lipstick lesbian.
@victoriagill3337
@victoriagill3337 4 жыл бұрын
She’s definitely NOT a lesbian. She’s had quite a few high profile relationships - with men
@death2pc
@death2pc 3 жыл бұрын
Dwayne Stukopski from Hamtramck was there and saw this in person. Afterward, he went to a restaurant, had a nice big bowl of goulash, two beers, then went back to his hotel and slept.
@skaterinjennifer4848
@skaterinjennifer4848 2 жыл бұрын
KATARINA WITT ;) :) :D
@user-gd8gy6um2m
@user-gd8gy6um2m 5 жыл бұрын
Раньше фигурное катание было зрелищное красивые девушки роскошные наряды А сейчас что пигалицы ручки тоненькие ножки тоненькие ещё и сравнивают
@felipenavarro6602
@felipenavarro6602 7 жыл бұрын
I love this version of the East German national anthem
@MrOu83
@MrOu83 7 жыл бұрын
Ya_Boi_Jibanyan XX I was no fan of Katarina or the GDR (had nothing against the country, though), I loved the anthem.
@hardsam68
@hardsam68 6 жыл бұрын
Im sure WITT AND THOMAS didnt hate each other, the Media drew that one up, Debi should never have done CARMEN
@MrOu83
@MrOu83 6 жыл бұрын
Pascoe Braun - Debi should have done Carmen. Had she executed it as least as well as she did at the U.S. Nationals, she would have won gold at both the Olympics and the Worlds. Katarina did a whole lot of nothing. Flirting and posing for long periods of time.
@victoriagill3337
@victoriagill3337 4 жыл бұрын
MrOu83 and landed the jumps and skated cleanly 🤔
@charismanicole
@charismanicole 13 жыл бұрын
Skating was a lot different back then than it is now. I would love to see more artistry in the sport than just jumping which leads to falls for some. Besides jumping for female figure skating was coming to the forefront in '88'. The Midori's and Kristi's took skating to a new level. If the judging that is in place today was in place back then. Maybe you would have seen different skaters medal in Olympics and Worlds.
@cashed-out2192
@cashed-out2192 3 жыл бұрын
These women would not stand a chance against the Russians, Japanese, or South Korean women of today
@victoriagill3337
@victoriagill3337 2 жыл бұрын
@@cashed-out2192 this was 30 years ago. It’s like comparing the women who won in the 50s and 60s (like Peggy Fleming) to this. It’s what happens 🤷🏽‍♀️ it doesn’t make the achievements at the time any less groundbreaking
@cashed-out2192
@cashed-out2192 2 жыл бұрын
@@victoriagill3337 Well, these Koreans, Japanese. Russians, and Canadian women for his sport, all stand a chance. All the American women should stay home. Even the German women, since Kat Witt, are not even good anymore, either.
@slsl5243
@slsl5243 2 жыл бұрын
Getting rid of school figures was a mistake. Turning the sport into a jumping contest has stripped it of everything that made it watchable. My mother and I watched many skating programs in the 90s (was a big Kristi fan). I know times have changed, but Id argue it's not for the better...
@user-fv4cs3fr5i
@user-fv4cs3fr5i 4 ай бұрын
Ее никогда никто не перекатает!!!
@koolaidnhemlock
@koolaidnhemlock 16 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing- liz is so cute.
@BytomGirl
@BytomGirl 9 жыл бұрын
I adore Katarina... she had beauty, class, poise, wit, talent, flirtatiousness and sensuality. Just gorgeous... And Liz was so sweet... Debbie leaves me cold... can't find much there and I am fellow American.
@baritonebynight
@baritonebynight 9 жыл бұрын
Yet Thomas is brilliant and is now an orthopedic surgeon. Witt has big boobs that she showed in Playboy.
@BytomGirl
@BytomGirl 9 жыл бұрын
This is not about mental brilliance... it's about skating competition.. orthopedic brilliance doesn;t give person necessarily a lot of warmth or other abilities... so lets stick to skating ....
@baritonebynight
@baritonebynight 9 жыл бұрын
***** For me mental brilliance is a part of skating, for you its not. No biggie. Its all subjective anyway.
@BytomGirl
@BytomGirl 9 жыл бұрын
baritonebynight For me it is the most important part, especially emotions, I saw a lot more mental, emotional envolvement in Katarina's skating than in cold, lifeless, emotionless skating of Thomas... besides, orthopedics don't require a mental genius. She is not a brain surgeon... which wouldn't;t make her a better skater than Katarina anyway and Katarina has more class, Thomas is just a sore loser with a temper......
@baritonebynight
@baritonebynight 9 жыл бұрын
***** You confuse fact and opinion and you sound pretty ignorant about the medical field.
@birgitkanne7327
@birgitkanne7327 14 күн бұрын
Sie war einfach Carmen... .und einfach fantastisch.
@birgitkanne7327
@birgitkanne7327 14 күн бұрын
Tolle Frauen.....alle.....
@auntiechercher4266
@auntiechercher4266 4 ай бұрын
Debi's short program was awesome so it was a shame that she faltered in the long. But it happens, we all have ups and downs!
@renavogel7114
@renavogel7114 2 жыл бұрын
❤️
@wandaborowy9400
@wandaborowy9400 Жыл бұрын
I live in Calgary and was in grade 8 during this . At school they shove this Olympics down our throats.
@Person-mh6xq
@Person-mh6xq Жыл бұрын
Hope you didn't choke too badly. Yeesh. Perhaps because it was a BIG event and something students can aspire to!
@wandaborowy9400
@wandaborowy9400 Жыл бұрын
@@Person-mh6xq What did you care about when you were 14 ?
@marguskiis7711
@marguskiis7711 6 жыл бұрын
Do you know what vitt means in Finland?
@aleutian1
@aleutian1 15 жыл бұрын
I know there's a video of the Bonaly incident on here somewhere. She finished second at the '94 Worlds behind Yuka Sato. I dont remember how well either skater performed but Bonaly felt she was wronged by the judges and refused to stand on the podium during the medal ceremony. The official presenting the medals whispered something to her and put his hand on her arm and "nudged" her and she finally stepped up...
@CarstenOepping
@CarstenOepping 14 жыл бұрын
btw the anthem was played to fast . it was played 1/3 to fast !
@koolaidnhemlock
@koolaidnhemlock 15 жыл бұрын
thats not true. she did two 3toe loops and two 3 salchows one in combination with a double flip. manley actually won the long program that night but katarina finished 1st in the overall event.
@GIOJL
@GIOJL 8 жыл бұрын
Debbie seems like a good sport in this ceremony. Can't remember back. Wondering what she did that was poor sportsmanship.
@emerybayblues
@emerybayblues 8 жыл бұрын
+GIOJL At the Olympics, during the awards ceremony, Witt reached over to Thomas, & Thomas just kind of slapped/tapped her on the thigh, no eye contact.
@aleutian1
@aleutian1 15 жыл бұрын
I remember that well...I'm surprised nobody has posted a video of it here. Very unsportsmanlike of Thomas. Witt's performance was good...not great...but still FAR better than Debi's. As I recall, Debi's butt hit the ice twice during her performance and the choreography to Carmen was nonexistent. Reminds me of the Surya Bonaly incident in 1994. People need to lose gracefully.
@hardsam68
@hardsam68 6 жыл бұрын
im sure she did lose gracefully
@bryand6811
@bryand6811 Жыл бұрын
Does the interview portion at the end of this video exist? I'd love to hear what they were going to say
@user-rp1dx9sv8q
@user-rp1dx9sv8q 3 ай бұрын
Да у всех короткие юбки, не понимаю почему на Катарину наезжали за это🧐
@fong03
@fong03 13 жыл бұрын
@Carpentersfan2003 I have to disagree with you. Yuka's basic skating skills blow Surya's out of the water. Yuka skates with more flow and musicality. But the real deal breaker is the fact that Surya did NOT skate cleanly. She made mistakes on her jumps and she had to skate cleanly to beat Yuka.
@russianskatingfan
@russianskatingfan 7 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Surya messed up some of her strength (jumps) in the long program while Yuka did all her jumps cleanly. Making the whining Surya should have won even more ridiculous. She was way overscored if anything.
@TheSienna29
@TheSienna29 6 жыл бұрын
Debi was dealing with a new marriage and I believe medical school at this time +the olympics. Anyone would have imploded under that kind of pressure
@maggie210
@maggie210 5 жыл бұрын
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@mathildewesendonck7225
@mathildewesendonck7225 4 жыл бұрын
CIXI there was just too much pressure on poor Debi
@mattg.812
@mattg.812 10 жыл бұрын
Where was the sweet moment?
@maurodiaz206
@maurodiaz206 8 жыл бұрын
0:42
@mattg.812
@mattg.812 6 жыл бұрын
Nope. It says "A rare and never seen before sweet moment between Witt and Thomas on the podium "
@freddiemercury4evr
@freddiemercury4evr 4 жыл бұрын
@@mattg.812 3:36
@aleutian1
@aleutian1 15 жыл бұрын
...but then she removed her medal and and kept it off...audience booing her all the way. I would LOVE to know what the man said to her...probably something like "get your butt up there or you'll never skate again". She may have deserved the gold...I dont know, but something about her has always rubbed me the wrong way. I think she's unprofessional and lacks grace, and is a little weird, frankly. But there's no excuse for her tantrum at that medal ceremony...you really have to see it.
@tyronelewis2430
@tyronelewis2430 5 жыл бұрын
aleutian1
@victoriagill3337
@victoriagill3337 Жыл бұрын
Wasn’t it Sonia Bianchetti & Brita Lindgren (referee and assistant referee) who tried to start a breakaway group in competition with the ISU and in doing so ended up banned for life
@yehudafinkelstein7504
@yehudafinkelstein7504 3 жыл бұрын
6:15 There is nothing better than the DDR anthem and Kati Witt provides good scenery.
@yescanto
@yescanto 14 жыл бұрын
No she didn't if she did she would have won the title.
@jimcressman2988
@jimcressman2988 Жыл бұрын
Liz was robbed by the judges. The fix was in.
@aupz23
@aupz23 10 жыл бұрын
question - since jill held kat's hand walking off the podium, why is it that kat didn't reach for debbie's hand walking off the podium?
@HowDareThey1970
@HowDareThey1970 10 жыл бұрын
That was not Jill. That was Liz Manley. Katarina was holding flowers in her other hand.
@Brissieskater1
@Brissieskater1 4 жыл бұрын
The communist regime cannot stop the freedom that she has in this moment.
@justkeela76
@justkeela76 14 жыл бұрын
Debi deserved the highest honor!
@nipaipo36100
@nipaipo36100 3 жыл бұрын
my rank on the free was 1st japan 2nd canada 3rd germany 4th usa
@madangangativre2971
@madangangativre2971 5 жыл бұрын
सस
@madangangativre2971
@madangangativre2971 5 жыл бұрын
शी सिक्स
@dashoverton1963
@dashoverton1963 Жыл бұрын
Debi knew she lost again so she had to rub it in by telling the other girls on the podium she’s getting married. Kinda tacky if you ask me.
@braininahat
@braininahat 12 жыл бұрын
The Canadian should have won gold.
@conniebarnes9274
@conniebarnes9274 6 жыл бұрын
braininahat, Are you from Canada?
@gertieshaw90
@gertieshaw90 6 жыл бұрын
No Debi should have won the Gold, she was 1st going into the long program and Katarina missed a triple so the door was open for Debi. Debi could have skated all of her jumps, as she said, "In her sleep," but it was being psychologically passive that did her in. She was capable and physically able to complete a perfect program but her own mind sabotaged her.
@martinlalonde979
@martinlalonde979 4 жыл бұрын
@@conniebarnes9274 I am from Canada and sorry Elizabeth Manley did more jump but if you compare the spin,the choreography and the interpretation of Katarina Witt she was to good.Manley chose to skate to so many different music in one program it was not a good choice.Katarina had very good technique i saw her fall once in all her career live in Montreal on a triple toe loop and she was mad and she felt getting out the ice.
@cashed-out2192
@cashed-out2192 3 жыл бұрын
@@conniebarnes9274 I am not, and i think she skated superbly
@julielabelle2907
@julielabelle2907 2 жыл бұрын
@@martinlalonde979 I liked her music though it was a great choice love her intersecting spears eagles
@SuperAdamsapple
@SuperAdamsapple 10 жыл бұрын
Caro Schroeder, perhaps you would prefer Deutschland, Deutschland über alles, über alles in der Welt?
@karapana8398
@karapana8398 8 жыл бұрын
wie sagt man auf Englisch eigentlich "dumme Gans" ?
@davidliers9215
@davidliers9215 3 жыл бұрын
Meinst du dich damit selbst?! Leute gibt es !
@alexanderkirchgessner507
@alexanderkirchgessner507 2 жыл бұрын
Ja, Gott hat dich mit Intelligenz bestraft. Du armer. Sonderschule Abschluss
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