I thought the same. The rule I heard to remember it was "All eeveelution types + dragon were special" 👍👍

Yep. That's why Sneasel was so terrible.

Yes

Ironically though, all dark moves prior to gen 4 were made physical after the split.

Which makes absolutely no sense by the way

Yes all dark type moves were special

Yeah its nice to see other people also noticed that

Figures an Eeveelution would know that XP

Now that you mentioned all of the Eeveelution being based around Special types, I am surprised we still haven't gotten a dragon type one yet since Dragon was also special. I think that's because Gamefreak would think it would be complicated but still

Not only were they Special but once the split happened *all* of the existing moves became physical. It also makes Bite the only move that changed damage type twice

I always thought the poison and steel weaknesses was industrialization destroying the cuteness and magic of nature

Honestly, we think both are probably correct interpretations in terms of the reasoning.

I was hoping for a Mega Yamega that got that dual typing. Or Mega Flygon.

Same goes for rock/ghost

@@dooom1234 Golurk, Runerigus, Houndstone, the possibilities were all there. Why is Houndstone still pure ghost when it has Sand Rush ability and a tombstone on his head

flapple. nuff said

@@AznYunHou sand and clay are considered ground type in pokemon, while stones and gems are considered rock type,

In Runerigus' defense, G. Yamask's Dex entry says it comes from a *clay* tablet. But the others have no other type to excuse themselves.

Spiritomb is literally a bunch of spirits possessing a rock

@@sakurabiskuit To be fair, the Odd Keystone is more of a device meant to seal the spirits away than something Spiritomb is actually a part of. That, and I feel like the whole Malevolent Spirit thing is kinda predisposed to being Dark type. Sableye on the other hand...

Houndstone even has Sand Rush.

G.Corsala Ruinrigus Houndstone Stakataka

ghost ghost ghost

Dragon/Ghost doesn't resist each other though

Fighting, Fairy, and Steel

@@abdimajidabdisalam2060 Fighting doesn't resist Steel

@@leafshavingtool9185 I Know. But I like this triangle

I was gonna mention that but thx for also sharing knowledge

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I always remember the weaknesses of fairy this way: 2 ways of harming someone in a fairy tale, with a sword (steel) or by poison (like snow white and many others princesses)

@@stefomarch95 Yeah! The way it sticks in my mind is steel from the cold iron thing and poison because of Tinkerbell lol

If you have ever seen the Leprechaun movies, they say Leprechauns (evil fairies) can be killed by wrought iron and are powerless when encased in iron

The anime and the pokedex are guilty of so much misinformation vs actual game mechanics. Although he did clear up why i still keep mistaking ghost as weak to psychic, the only kanto ghosts were part poison type and in Johto and Hoenn the ghost type just isn't that common or noteworthy. (And you would probably deal with it with your dark type anyway)

@@jasonreed7522 Honestly you can't even bring the pokedex into anything involving mechanics or canon. If the pokedex is taken at face value. I don't even want to talk about Gengar. I want to talk about why the humans, plant life, other pokemon, buildings, literally everything. Is capable of withstanding temperatures that are 8000f greater than that of the sun.

@@iBeSupicious forget about a giant lava snail. I’m more concerned about dragon grandpas committing arson to naughty children

@@daforkgaming3320 Or the fat-shaming, child stealing, haunted balloons.

thats something i still have to remind myself of to this day, and i know a lot of other people who have to remind themselves too. since the gengar line was the only ghost type actively used in both kanto and johto (basically nobody in jihto uses misdreavus, ecruteak gym uses all gengar line iirc) and that line is weak to psychic, it led to a lot of people assuming ghost is weak to psychic.

Still a bit disappointed that Dunsparce didn’t evolve into a Dragon/Fairy. Or at least Dragon/Psychic or something along those lines.

@@jordyn.24 A simple Dunsparce with fairy wings (and maybe some smalle extra bits) would've been a much better evolution than... whatever we got instead. Oh and it would be Normal/Fairy, not Dragon/Fairy. Dunsparce doesn't need to be a dragon (though it _could_ be).

Oh i didnt know that thats neat thx

Except dual types do not exist in gen 1, both moltres and charizard are pure fire in original gen 1. In firered and leafgreen they are neutral against fire/flying since flying is a weakness and fire resists ice, so it’s neutral.

@@wysteriousmimic1402 Dual-types did exist in Gen I. The GameBoy games incorrectly displayed super/not very effective text when a dual-type was hit by a move that one of its types resisted and the other was weak to, that might be what you are thinking of. But the damage was still calculated correctly and the Pokemon were definitely dual-type.

I knew I remembered ice being strong against fire lol

Why does this have likes this is just not true at all@@wysteriousmimic1402

And it makes sense, considering what freeze-drying does in real life.

We should have the move “Acid” be reworked to a 70bp move that hits steels super effectively.

The question is why ALL ice moves aren't strong against water.

@@Fungo4 Freezing water just turns it into more ice without damaging it.

​@@wikiuser92 A frozen fish that can't move is definitely screwed in battle.

He might have meat ghost

yeah, there's even an easy way to tell the difference, ironically it didn't make total sense till gen 4 but, basically if the type was dragon, or a type that eevee evolved into, it was special

Really? Dark doesn't feel at all like a special type. Even looking at the moves 10 are special and 33 physical, First special dark move was in gen IV when there were already 14 Physical dark moves

@@magnusnord8353 Well it was haven’t U played GSS or RSE

@Magnus Nord I don't get it either but it was in fact special.

fighting doesn't resist steel so it's not quite perfect :(

@@lovelaxo Yep! That's why I said almost perfect :)

grass, poison ground

lucario, but he’s a wizard now

Fire, ice and ground. Almost there

It also explained why Dark Pulse became a move in Gen 4; and it ironically has the same BP and PP as Crunch.

i'm assuming this isn't counting the moves added in gen 4 like aura sphere, dark pulse, psycho cut but the ones in the game alrdy?

yeah sorry thats what I meant, all existing moves prior to gen 4

I love how Bite went from physical to special to back to physical. Also, the stats weren't the biggest deal in gen 2 outside of pvp. I know I'm not alone in taking a Biting Croconaw to Morty's gym. Got work done.

Zen Headbutt already existed in Gen 3, so not all psychic moves remained special in gen 4

Heracross is good

Escavalier lookin baller, but for a more subdued design Pinsir is a winner for me.

Volcarona is a pseudo legendary type design

Of course Scizor, excadrill, golisopod. Bug type also have great moves like the iconic U-turn. Bug buzz can hit through substitutes, Leech Life, First Impression. Tail Glow and Quiver Dance are one of the best setup moves to ever exist.The sticky web is also powerful.

In this way normal would've been kind of a fairy substitute, while in the end the opposite happened. Seeing how the fairy type turned out in competitive, I would have preferred the former solution.

@@alpolacci being a weakness to the dark type is one of the least important reasons to add the fairy type, countering dragons and improving the ofensive of steel and poison was probably much more important.

I would like for Psychic to be SE against Normal, Normal SE against Dark, Poison SE against Bug, Bug SE on Fairy, Fairy NVE on Bug, Fire SE on Fairy, Poison SE on Water, Water NVE on Ice, Fairy NVE on Grass, Steel SE on Grass, Electric SE on Steel

@@bluegum6438 man grass already has enough weaknesses stop bullying it xD

@@Qwertymann0 I gave it a resistance to Fairy and a weakness to Steel, it's a decent defensive type but I think it would be better if it was strong against another common attacking type and in exchange weak to a relatively uncommon type It would make Poison/Grass excellent against Fairies

Heroes in Japan used bug-themed costumes back when Gen 2 was released, that's why it is super effective

@@-YaRR- Bug beating dark is literally just a Kamen Rider reference

Well that's a good theory...........I was used to think that bugs are strong against dark is because bugs can see in dark also and moreover bugs aren't even weak in dark places whether they can be in their full potential while being in dark places😅 Well in konw that it is so lame........but that was my theory on this type matchup 😅🤣

@@Sankalp-kt9uz this one doesn't make sense. the dark type isn't actually themed around the concept of darkness, as in japan the type is actually translated to the "evil" type, so the type effectivenesses have nothing to do with the actual idea of "darkness"

@@bynosaurus4024 ya that's why I wrote that my theory was preety lame😅🤣............

It could also be a Kamen rider reference

Although for those of you wondering about dark type this one could actually be several reasons. One is that dark is more, special based or taken more literally, like darkness seeps through or something like that. One thing I like to think of it though is that while steel types do everything to maximize their defense, dark types (the most commonly seen evil types) play dirty and attack the blind spots of whatever steel type they're attacking. Like a steel coated knight having blind spots in their armor that you could exploit, or like bringing a screwdriver to a robot fight. I don't know if this is the actual reason but if it is it's pretty cool.

@@permberd4185 Dark and Ghost dealt half damage to Steel up until Gen 6. It was just for balance reasons with the introduction of Fairy that it was changed.

​@@RabblesTheBinx yeah, it probably was just for balance reasons. Still though, it's kinda nice that the changes still make sense contextually.

​@@permberd4185The reason for steel not being weak against electric is due to its property of conductor as the electric current (AC not so.sure about dc) flows only through the surface of conductor not through it so Pokemon can't really feel the current whereas water is an ionic conductor , electric current travels through the water in form of ions so basically the current is flowing the Pokemon and that's really damaging

@@j.d.714 steel being immune to steel would actually be pretty dang interesting.

Now I wanna see someone design an Ultra Beast region. There's tons of creative potential that the Ultra Beasts offer due to having totally different design conventions.

Fairy fighting and steel work too

@@LandOfTheEnigma it almost works...fighting isn't resistant to steel 🤷‍♂️

@@niceguy66alain oh what? That's stupid

Poison/Dark works great, we've had a couple now. Poison and ground not so much. Poison types are weak against ground types, and ground types don't resist other ground types.

If we're counting moves that are only strong under certain conditions, it's actually ghost the new Last Respects upon fainting 100 pokemon (not obtainable in competitive, with revives) and capping at 5,050 base power, but 6 stacked Rage Fist not counting revives hits 350 if we aren't counting non competitive formats

@@plazmurr You don't need revives to reach the 5050 bp on Last Respects, since Rabsca gets Skill Swap meaning if it gets the Harvest ability + Leppa Berry it can infinitely revive. Without the infinite Leppa Berries, you can still get more than 4 Revival Blessings, through Sleep Talk

@@plazmurr Oh yeah Last Respects is a thing, huh? I guess if Spit Up counts then that has to count as well... Also, i think it says everything about me as a fan that i completely forgot about the shiny new moves but almost instantly remembred one of the most obscure ones. Heck, for a brief moment i even thought about Trump Card before remembering that that one only goes up to 190 BP.

I mean power trip has 860 base power with every stat maximized.

​@@davidtrottier7066and its special attack counter part in Stored power is the same. But explosion is very dangerous with its effective 500BP for 0 setup, its listed at 250 but it halves the defense of the recipient which effectively doubles its base power. (Similar to moves that always crit not quite having their listed base power but also ignoring unfavorable stat changes, and effectively not having a chance to "crit" above their normal output)

There's other ways to make Flygon stand out that don't involve swapping the fantastic Ground for the low-grade Bug. Just shuffle Flygon's stats around until it's a dedicated special attacker. Then give the Bug/Dragon combo to Yanmega, for whom it's actually an upgrade.

Maybe delphox and flygon regional forms

@@LeDave257 Pokemon XYZ had the perfect opportunity to highlight the new Fairy type by giving it to Delphox, but they unfortunately fumbled it

Flygon and Delphox? Are we all forgetting about the even better candidates of Yanmega and Ninetales?

The typing of the Sinnoh starters creats a lot of weirdness. Such as Empoleon taking neutral damage from both other starter's main types but 2x from their secondaries. Torterra can hit both other starters for 2x but doesn't actually resist the water starter. (Especially since as a bird Empoleon gets peck & drill peck to hit Torterra for 2x) And Infernape is 2x weak to both other starters and can hit them both for 2x. This weird type matchup is almost like if they were all part dragon type to break the normal "rock, paper, scissors" of the starters.

@Jason Reed I thought that was what they were going for, though. Making Empoleon a tank unless it is in near any match up with the opponent having a super effective move, Infernape that but offensively, and tortera a mix between the two. And making it so that clearly there is no bias between which starter is better. I say that while damn well knowing they had one other fire type besides the starter in the first game they were in.

I always assumed it is strong against dark is reference to how many heroes themed after insects there are

In light of Alolan Ninetales, they really should have done Fire/Fairy for the usual Ninetales.

@@gengarzilla1685 Yeah

Was abt to say that but checked comments first

Volcanion EX was also dual type

Isn'f Lokix based on Kamen Rider

Roost gets rid of the flying type, not turn them into normal types.

If a poke is pure flying, it becomes typeless (grounded). Since all flying types before gen V had a 2nd type, they would never become typeless

@@ominoussouls1 it was either gen 4 or the pokemon used roost second or they had a ring target

@@luisaponte7703 if they are pure flying they become normal

Ice Burn does that, but it's exclusive to Kyruem White.

IIRC pure, distilled water doesn't actually conduct electricity very well-please verify this before trying any weird science experiments-and it's actually dissolved minerals and such that allow it to conduct. Since our bathtubs don't dispense pure, distilled water, there's still a risk of electrocution if a blow dryer or something falls in. The point being, some waters conduct electricity better than other waters. Honestly the whole conduction argument is a little strange, since Normal isn't weak to Electric, and pretty much any normal animal can conduct electricity perfectly well. I think the real reason is that if lightning strikes a pond or something, pretty much all the fish in it will die, but if lightning strikes a pole, the pole will probably be fine, though something like a computer would be toast. There could be an argument for both weakness and resistance or even immunity, so they went with neutral damage.

Drakeon lives in our hearts.

Damn

xdddddddddd

damn the only thing here is rydon

@@wiseraccoon5097 rhydon

Ngl that's a pretry cringe comment..

it is

@@dooom1234 then why was it 7 immunity's rather than 8?

@@mysteriousmog51 An error i guess

Houndoom does that better, plus it has Fire STAB and is one of the very few Fire types to learn Solar Beam before Gen 4 gave it to almost all Fire types.

@@gengarzilla1685 I wouldn't take either of them on my final team. Mightyena is and its pre evo are available early though

Not exactly perfect, Ice does not resist Flying.

And fighting does not resist ice

This is a joke right? I love fera but like it kind of sucks in gen 2.

That's a stretch

Steelix is deep underground, so heat from pressure.

mega altaria

Pokéstar Studios also debuted some other type combos before they became "official", like Psychic/Electric and Dark/Psychic.

Fun fact, it's spelled *its*, not *it's*.

​@@enoyna1001 it's as in "it is"

@@Tae.psycho I referred to >>it's name is F-00

man, i was looking to see if anyone else caught the grass poison ground triangle before i comment it. well congrats, you beat me to it. also steel deals neutral dmg to fight

Some moves are already sound-based moves. "Being sound-based has the following effects: Pokémon with the Soundproof Ability are unaffected by other Pokémon's sound-based moves, except Heal Bell in Generation V. Pokémon affected by Throat Chop cannot use sound-based moves for two turns. Sound-based moves used by a Pokémon with Liquid Voice become Water-type moves. Sound-based moves used by a Pokémon with Punk Rock are boosted by 30%. Pokémon with Punk Rock also take half damage from sound-based moves. If a Pokémon holding a Throat Spray uses a sound-based move, the Throat Spray is consumed and boosts the holder's Special Attack by one stage. While not a necessary property of sound-based moves, from Generation VI onward, all sound-based moves (except Howl) can hit Pokémon behind a substitute regardless of the substitute."

If we take Shedinja into account under normal conditions, then that leaves us with just Flying, Rock, and Dark. Shedinja's immunities to Bug, Ice, Steel, and Fairy are completely unique to it.

@@MissinDaSylveon oh yeah forgot about em