philosophy

Reality. People only do stuff needed to live when they feel like it. How many people would go through the trouble of self sufficient, hunter gatherer life? After an apocalypse

@@yucol5661 someone with kids, thats why being infertile was important (even though the movie does an awful job at it).

@@yucol5661 well they are called conspiracy theorist or nut jobs but they are always prepared

@@yucol5661 most people would. when pushed to the limits people will do anything to survive. its our natural instinct

What you talking about you are not making sense

@@Buggod21 its in the story did you not hear-

@@plutotism8109 hold on im confused I thought he wasn’t

@@Buggod21 oh i meant the narrator said it

I can't understand story when door open they died then how they are still talking in room what is exercise?

Seriously; I’m going to school to be a zoologist but on the side I’m doing interior decorating and designing; many people are talented on both sides of the coin

I'm doing a Bachelor's degree in mechanical engineering, I'm a sneaker customizer on the side

I have 2 bachelors degrees in engineering, and I can confirm I have absolutely 0 artism

In other hand, people who excels in STEM assumes they are better than everyone and art is easy.

@@GandalfOfRivia Not really..

He just really hates poets, that's how he lost his first girl probably lol

Like marvel to iron man in what if?!

😂

If u are trapped in a bunker with only 10 ppl and have zero entertainment you gonna start wishing u had an author or a poet to write you tall tales or storys or rhyms to keep u ocupied... like my dudes the worst teacher ever lol

@@galleo9462 not only that but after you get out you will be living in the stone age.

9:28: Haha, its like D&D! Or Yugioh Season 1!! People just make stuff up that sounds like it makes sense, right? Did i get this right?

Yep, this statement is factually correct

Yes

OMG YES

Well…no matter where you go on earth, no matter how destitute or desperate, there are people there who sing, dance, tell stories, and fall in love. People don’t have time or energy for luxuries during war and famine. People fall in love and write songs in time of war and famine. Art, creation, and love are intrinsic human qualities. We don’t live without them. We just exist. Also, when everyone is given the opportunity to learn and create, you optimize all of human potential. Because there is no saying where the greatest scientist live. They might be at a slum somewhere and they might have died never learned how to read and write. And people discover and create by accident and by playing and by indulging their curiosity. There is no logic to human ingenuity. You can give people tools and you can give people access to all the knowledgeable equally and optimize human potential that way and then wait for the right accidents. Like human beings, we are also a product of accidents and chaos. Random mutations and random discoveries. It’s kind of beautiful.

iam so confused on what this movie is

What is the difference between a duck?

What’s the difference between a lime

Ya. If you can make anything then what is the point.

Concurred

i don't get the metapher lol

@@nikmrn exactly

@@nikmrn you are the potato chip

@@harryhotfist lol-

Isn't the boy in 0:33 from spy kids lol am I the only one who noticed

Add the useless winer, homossexual with perfect genes and add a hedge fund manager with gold while the market wont exist in a apocalitic scenario

that is the thing that is bothering me, making food, painting , writing poems and singing can be learnt by anyone based on practice but being an engineer, chemist, biologist,sugeon etc cannot be masterd by simple practice but rather requires formal training and lot of effort. it seems like the director shoehorning idea of arts are better than science and emotions are more important than logic, and most mindboggling thing is that if they are willing to commit sucide and die, they could have given the bunker to the other people who are willing to live, rather than throwing them away and commiting sucide, only thing i understood from the movie is that never give leadership to idiots who are not willing to see the logical problem ahead of them and will kill everyone including themselves

Director showcased that you are not more valuable than others depending on your profession/skills, everyone is equal.

No disrespect, ADM. But htf a infertile carpinter gonna be equal a engineer (fertile)?

We are human beings and all of that. But in the end some ppl are better in some areas than others. You can be good in leadership and conclusive decisions and i can be on investiment areas and see if they worth the risk and the r.o.p (im working on it a few months so isnt a lie, im just not a senior lol)

oh... I guess someone already beat me to it..

"Blonde" is for female humans; "blond" is for males. It's one of English's few gendered words. Bonus points if you can tell me just one of the others.

@@tarico4436 Hero and Heroine?

@@minjeonglee3953 Coke and Cocaine?

@@far_centrist Meth and Methamphetamine?

Yup american/western things you know. Its normal to them,

She belongs to the streets

What do you mean by got away with it?

​ @b2kzangelalwayz She clearly get away with cheating. Nothing bad happened to her. Her boyfriend didnt find out and her lover was so much a simp that he killed himself

@@youAREkolokoy not to every one

Was she the first one to be taken out?

I know everyone wants to ask this question... Did the group get the information about the bunker from her and kick her out?

@@boxingelfis1499 - I remember we each had to do the assignment ourselves at home, and then decide later as a group in class. I let her stay because she owned the bunker, but the group kicked her out right away!

@@boxingelfis1499 - Lol, yes! When I did the assignment myself at home, I let her stay because she owned the bunker. But later when we decided as a group in class, she was the first one to go!

Depends on the description of the other characters but I probably would’ve kicked her out. Peoples personalities and who they are affect all aspects of life (the reason why people love or hate their jobs is because of the way their coworkers or customers/patrons interact with them) and if I had to live in a bunker for presumably a year/years with someone who made it miserable (set aside all the bunkers amenities), I’d go out of my way to get rid of said person

Turns out "The Carpenter" was only his nickname cause he always finds a way to lay the wood.

@@yessum15 💀💀💀💀😭😭

@@yessum15 If I was a king and you were my Court Jester.....I would not execute you.

'smart' as much as a turd with wings

@@yessum15 🤣🤣🤣🤣yess

Except the ones with regret by the end of it is not the characters, but the audience for wasting time watching.

PLEASE

Ok

^ +1 currently enrolled in philosophy class. This may be the dumbest movie summary I've heard

Stupid. If it is make believe then what is the point. I was waiting for it to turn real. Like the choice would mean that these 10 were going to be saved from actual apocalypse. 😂

I just saw this comment before watching the movie and I’m scared

@@monarchmeow9256 so am I that's why it was so awkward. Like a "thought experiments" are Dungeons and Dragons

Nothing is enough for the poet

lmao same, I still don't know why it was so funny when he got shot the 2nd time. He never had a chance

Jokes on them, he could have told the greatest tales of their adventures and they'd become legendary.

WEIRD CLASS

It's kinda ironic that the one shooting the poet teaches philosophy for a living himself.

@@boxingelfis1499 - Facts though 🤷🏻‍♀️😏💯

yeah, in last exercise Petra is like, I choose the fashion designer as it boost mood etc. etc., then the guy with chemistry degree because of his perfect genes, then chooses james in the end and its like , well every life is equal so that's why I choose james, TF 😂😂😂😂

she knows how to get ahead in life.

@@darklight6921 good one

She's actually smart, just also sleeping with the professor. If she wasn't smart, the class wouldn't respect her enough to let her pick survivors and would question how she does well enough to beat them all if her participation in class is only mediocre. She also outsmarts the professor. I think their attraction was probably intellectual and physical.

If she wasn’t smart she wouldn’t be sleeping with the teacher.

@@tias2705More like she wasn't smart, and on top of that the whole class is filled with idiots, or else they would have criticized the glaring flaws with how the thought experiment was set up.

While students cheats with her boyfriend with no remorse.

Yea the second he threatened to lower another pupils grade for the blind walking out everyone should of been like “welp he’s gonna be fired in the morning and this won’t matter, you guys wanna go to Burger King?”

Dumb script dumb movie

Yeh

What the hell were with the 'rigged cards' tho, Didn't the teacher come up with this exercise and write them each a role to play in it. Why did they need hidden cards for the boyfriend...

That's the merit of the whole movie which is a norm nowadays.

What do you mean savior? It was a CLASS

9:28: Haha, its like D&D! Or Yugioh Season 1!! People just make stuff up that sounds like it makes sense, right? Did i get this right?

It doesn't really make sense as a thought exercise either though. Something like this would inevitably have people discussing things outside of the "group" and everyone having imperfect information. You literally can't do something secretively and plan etc when you literally have to say it out loud so everyone hears. People never make decisions alone, and a classroom "thought exercise" would never be able to replicate the actual starting scenario correctly. This plot is also filled with "my narration says this happens because it fits what I want to have happened" instead of actual logical cause and effect. Professor locked out? Suddenly he has the only exit code to hold the group hostage even though that was never mentioned until literally that moment. Next sim attempt they literally try to metagame and claim that they know the code due to the previous failure(?????) and then all of a sudden this time there wasn't any bombs and the professor has been living nearby ready to shoot them on exit. This movie's writing is straight out of a smoke filled liberal arts college dorm that somehow just had to find a way to shoehorn a creepy sexual jealous overtone for some reason.

A poet killed my parents once… Now I will purge all poets from the future…

@@ShaggyRogers1 the idea of this exercise is to figure out your own values and priorities. As you go through the list of participants you are going to surround yourself with, you have to weigh each of them against another, and decide which traits are importance to you and why. The experiment doesn't have any other purpose or value, and it's not supposed to be a simulation of group dynamics or survival in a post-apocalyptic scenario. That's why I think the movie fell flat, its conclusion was dictated by nothing but the students being tired and pissed off at the professor. It' was not mentioned in the recap, but in the movie that star-girl made a show of changing their sitting arrangements, so that all the students ended up on one side, and the professor on the other. It wasn't we, the survivors, against them, the rejects, anymore. It was a big "f you" to the old dude. The whole movie was nothing but a long and boring break up scene between the girl and the old dude, with jealousy fits thrown in here and there.

I thought about why this movie fell short and you said it perfectly. There were no stakes, no danger and no consequence if they busted the thought experiments. The closest potential consequence they had was a failing grade, which is vague and has no bearing on what the characters will do after the movie's events end. And what the hell was the purpose of having the movie take place in Jakarta? This movie could've happened literally anywhere

Did you ever play a role playing game your self?

@@araw_buwan Seems more like the actors wanted to take a free vacation so they went to a nice tropical location, tried to use their fame to have the trip covered for free then when they were denied a free pass they decided to film a movie at the last second to recoup the costs. Then they just used the footage from their vacation, added a couple cgi explosives and tried to make a story out of whatever they filmed. One of their friends had access to a classroom so they decided to make it 'a thought experiment'. All just an unplanned, last minute effort. Only way this even remotely makes sense as a movie... 💀

so basically squid games?😅

@@FalconCleancut I’ve never seen it. But from what I’ve heard it’s what everyone’s talking about. And what I said is like the squid game, the show doesn’t sound original at all.

There was no moral of the story. The story was stupid. The end.

@@DrakeOola yeah. You’d think they could have tried to just guess the password or let the engineer/electrician reverse engineer how to open the door. If your bunker is good enough to survive the end of civilization then it should hopefully be well designed enough to have an emergency exit method or documentation.

9:28: Haha, its like D&D! Or Yugioh Season 1!! People just make stuff up that sounds like it makes sense, right? Did i get this right?

The moral of the story is that if you want good grades you better sleep with your professors.

If the stakes were higher for the characters it would've been better. Nothing happens if they die so they just choose the people that won't help survive to have fun. If there were stakes other than a bad grade then the people that could help survive would be chosen instead of the people that have no real value other than entertainment.

you forgot she cheated with the professor herself so such threat meant differently as you suggested.

Umm, if you think teachers haven't acted this way or similar, then you don't pay much attention to news related to schools do ya? A teacher here in Nevada was recently fired for threatening to lower a students grade if he didn't show her his you know what (teacher was dumb enough to think that the zoom sessions weren't recorded), and sadly that wasn't an isolated incident. There were reports of this going on in Chicago, Detroit, also in Austin, LA, mainly cities or states where the teachers union is *strong* Hell the teacher here was on PAID LEAVE from October of 2020 up until July 2021, when the parents finally got the teacher fired (though we suspect she wasn't)

Thought the exact same thing

@@Suisfonia ok they act he never said they don’t It he said students reaction is unreal

It's because she was sleeping with him that she didn't go straight to the principal

I think the movie is a combination of both of those concepts. The teacher believes because he has a job and financial stability (i.e. the exit code) he should have more value then a kid who lacks intelligence and financial stability (i.e. a florist). However, during the third thought experiment, she proves that the kids who lacked value would live happily together, and at the end of the day, that is all that really matters. The teacher cant accept this, because he believes value is more important then happiness (in order to preserve the human race). During the final scene, the teacher kills himself, because he cant accept that "value" is ultimately meaningless in comparison to "happiness".

"Sorry you can't come along, you are useless." "But I like men's butts." "Well, why didn't you say so? Come on in lmao!" pepega movie

FR it doesn't work that way

Imagine the movie went, yo im straight and i wont have a partner, so they get a random woman into the group just so the guy can be satisfied. It’s so bad lol.

@@Dance_Party Also, when it comes to repopulating the world, we need someone to satisfy with for that to happen

@@bradwhite5884 speak ingles, what the fuck is "satisfying with"?

honestly pathetic of the parents.

Actually the towering temple is candi Prambanan not Sewu. But some of the scene did on the candi sewu, and some other in candi Plaosan. So it's some kind of mashup of 3 temple complex

How your clothes look will be irrelevant when the light malfunction... then you die.

Right? The line: "Soldier with perfect memory remembers the code from last iteration." is immediately followed by "James who is no longer a homosexual in this exercise." like wtf

Love how all blame immediately goes to her and not the teacher fucking his student and fudging the grades. Is it that hard to hold men accountable ?

Boinking to his hearts content

Yeah. Typical modern one dimensional view. One can be a electrician and play music. But that's the superiority complex of many people in academia that study stuff like literature, politics and philosophy etc.

specifically they chose to die after surviving the apocalypse. Thought?

cool story bro. you should make a script and own the rights to it

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I’ll take *things that never happened* for $500, Alex 😂

I'll give you 12 cents for 85% of the project

*DeVry University.

Why did they accept a person just because they're gay? Why did anyone fund this movie? So many questions.

@@Chronically_ChiII this whole thing is so shity

@@Chronically_ChiII Right?! Like if they were voting out infertile women, then why not vote out the gays, since he wouldn't have sex with a woman

@@HmfcAK a gay man still can impregnate a woman, just as a gay woman can conceive with a man. What makes no sense however was that they alowed gay people to not participate in the repopulation effort. Personal preferences and freedoms give way to necessity when you are the last humans alive.

@@miloradowicz Not in my world it doesn’t. I’m gay, I don’t give a damn if it’s me and a man alone in the world as the last humans. Not having sex with him.

9:28: Haha, its like D&D! Or Yugioh Season 1!! People just make stuff up that sounds like it makes sense, right? Did i get this right?

And ending it all.

No offense, but only ten people probably means long-term survival isn’t really on the table (especially not when, in this scenario, the cause of destruction is a nuclear apocalypse - even if you outlast the initial strike for a year, radiation affects EVERYTHING, and you probably won’t have much resources to rebuild ALL of society after that. At most, you’ll have a generation, maybe two if the kids reproduce REALLY young, and even then…)

@@phastinemoon most likely that would be the case but it still shows you the headspace the people were in was contradictive for better circumstances

He was a man of culture.

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What?

@@anthonyleedunlap3732 huh?

@@yessum15 why?

@@anthonyleedunlap3732 Wherefore?

Yeah, you should not take this movie seriously. They accept the person with a bag of gold and the gay for being gay. Petra is right about one thing, their worth is all the same meaning that they are all equally worthless, including the writer and the person who funded this crap.

The movie feels like it could have been an episode of It's Always Sunny in Philedalphia.

@@masonthunkwell9786 Teacher should have gone the role of being the bases AI for the exercise. So he has a reason to keep forcing things to go ccording to program.

Skill share..

nigga all he does is say the plot over clips of the movie

jus create your summary, record you saying it, then add clips of the movie that go with each scene in your summary

Cool movie? This movie is a brain tumor that thinks it understands philosophy

Plenty of free KZfaq tutorials to learn this style of editing

True. I thought so similarly. It would make sense that the group collectively decide to get rid of the proffessor as he's a murder and killed the poet wthout consulting with the group first. As he can't be trusted and acts selfishlessly, I doubt he'd be able to survive in a group for a year.

An electrical engineer or an electronic engineer can break the door controls eventually. But if the situation is happening again for the first time, why do they think the exit code will be the same?

@@kronoso_o8042 that's the biggest plot hole.

The Academic 15' is an international practice

What do you mean by 12 choices? Aren't there 10 choices from 0-9? There are 5,040 combinations of four numbers when numbers are used only once. And repeated numbers are 10.000. Or did you calculate in the * and #?

@@florencefiancee I did consider * and #, assuming you can use them in the code