200+HP Gain… Just By Swapping Ignition?? Non Boosted BBC on Pump Gas

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Steve Morris Engines

Steve Morris Engines

7 ай бұрын

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@shawnfetter8226
@shawnfetter8226 7 ай бұрын
You’re very welcome Steve and glad you like the engine stand. Hopefully it makes working on those big SMX’s a little more enjoyable 👊🏻 Merry Christmas and thanks for the shout out! Thank you for all the content, tips and tricks you give all of us unfiltered which helps us all learn a little more than we knew before. Looking forward to making the SMX setup I have run with you big boys soon!
@user-on6vv2qn2d
@user-on6vv2qn2d 7 ай бұрын
You are a good person
@paulmartin8212
@paulmartin8212 7 ай бұрын
Kile, please be careful with those loose strings on your hoodie around belts. Accidents can happen so quick. Nobody wants to get hurt around doing what they love.
@JoshStLouis314
@JoshStLouis314 7 ай бұрын
I'm for tucked in, always. 90% of the time, they get in your way when leaning over anyway.
@jasonsweeten2851
@jasonsweeten2851 7 ай бұрын
I got my long hair caught in fan belt of running car once woke up with a bald spot bloody nose and concussion and no idea what just happened to me
@BSquaredmotors
@BSquaredmotors 7 ай бұрын
I have hoodies I just take the string out of, I had a hoodie string get stuck in a jig saw and it was very scary and that was a jig saw. Imagine like a lathe or circ saw. You’re in some trouble I can assure you
@russellridge8623
@russellridge8623 7 ай бұрын
Had that happen with shop apron. Using free standing grinder polishing side. Big wire wheel. Grabbed apron strings tied in front. Managed to lock my arms straight and it proceeded to rip that heavy denim apron and part of my shirt right off. Had a few bruises but nothing bad. Guys all had great laugh and nicknames once they saw I was not hurt.
@JoshStLouis314
@JoshStLouis314 7 ай бұрын
@@russellridge8623 and that's why you tie under the apron when front-tieing
@budgina
@budgina 7 ай бұрын
Steve, Watching the interaction between you and your son is worth a million bucks! The boy is really growing up in front of our eyes. Your family unit is the most important thing in life. Love your videos! Thank you!
@ssnerd583
@ssnerd583 7 ай бұрын
Wish my father had been as cool as Steve is....
@cembellsteve
@cembellsteve 7 ай бұрын
That's right Steve, TEACH him. Don't give him all the answers. Make him figure it out. Like I said before, you have to love working with your son. What a great combo. Got to keep the Morris name going Crap that's what i was going to get you this year. A engine stand. I could send you some hot muggy air from Louisianan So what have you thought about doing or making with the extra parts from the CNC mill? Rails and a ball screw.
@irdmoose
@irdmoose 7 ай бұрын
I know why Dewey didn't like the dog box. He clearly prefers synchros!
@flinch622
@flinch622 7 ай бұрын
He didn't want to miss Nate saying "don't tase me bro!"
@adamtheninjasmith2985
@adamtheninjasmith2985 7 ай бұрын
Nice play! 😂👍
@b.c4066
@b.c4066 7 ай бұрын
Pretty strong endorsement for a crank trigger and coil near plug setup.
@danielsmith-ze3wy
@danielsmith-ze3wy 7 ай бұрын
I bet that monster sounds good in person
@daverupes7022
@daverupes7022 7 ай бұрын
Sean is the man! Wow that's a sweet gift even approved by Steve and Kyle Morris
@riccocool
@riccocool 7 ай бұрын
Man has Kyle come a long way in a year. Keep up the great work.
@bb7549
@bb7549 7 ай бұрын
TOTALLY agree, he is really getting to be quite presence working through the dyno sessions.
@dertmatyui
@dertmatyui 6 ай бұрын
I love Kyle. His genuine curiosity is awesome, asking what difference in the camshaft would do 8500 rpm, etc. takes some questions right out of my mouth
@br549rdr
@br549rdr 7 ай бұрын
Shawn,Sean your the man💪💪💪Very nice of you to get that stand for them. 😇😇🙏🏻
@Mike44460
@Mike44460 7 ай бұрын
Kile, @ 5:13, the piece you are holding is the key. The machined place it fits into is the keyway.
@vehdynam
@vehdynam 7 ай бұрын
Great update with interesting tech as well.Nice to see the great interaction you and Kyle have. Keep moving forward.
@mikebates7234
@mikebates7234 7 ай бұрын
Way to go Sean ! I was just going to wish Steve and all at SME a merry and safe Christmas! You topped me!!
@136092195
@136092195 7 ай бұрын
Best Tech and videos yet Thank you Steve and Kyle And Merry Christmas from the crazy old man in the Yucatan
@justinfargas2367
@justinfargas2367 7 ай бұрын
It's really great seeing Kyle grow in confidence so much each time in front of the camera. Great video chaps. Hope to see you in Australia one day.
@scrotiemcboogerballs1981
@scrotiemcboogerballs1981 7 ай бұрын
Great video guys glad you didn’t get sick after the show several people I know that went are sick since then thanks for sharing
@michaelloth5870
@michaelloth5870 7 ай бұрын
Kyle, Congratulations on that monster engine tune. I was impressed with your call to change the ignition out. Yes that is a big cam and thanks for sharing some of the specs!!!
@sbcbuilder4279
@sbcbuilder4279 7 ай бұрын
says: "No blanket, no bones, nothing to chew on." That is why I didn't go in there dad.
@WyFoster
@WyFoster 7 ай бұрын
7:50 Classic dad stuff. He's got it Steve! My dad was exactly the same way and look how I turned out 😁
@TheOfficial_InsaneStang
@TheOfficial_InsaneStang 7 ай бұрын
Tim Taylor would be proud sir!!!!
@sineater1572
@sineater1572 7 ай бұрын
Right on Shawn/Sean...Merry Christmas
@kilgorefamily76
@kilgorefamily76 7 ай бұрын
You have to be really proud Steve, Kyle is becoming quite the tech and looking way more relaxed on camera.
@samuelsmith1642
@samuelsmith1642 6 ай бұрын
I love the puppy Q.C.. He's making sure everything is copacetic lol
@mikecabral1579
@mikecabral1579 6 ай бұрын
Brought back memories of when my Dad was teaching me things A different industry but the same concept. Critical thinking with good results proves that you have a good understanding of the subject matter.
@BenjySparky
@BenjySparky 7 ай бұрын
Steve and Kyle, y'all rock! Deweys doing Dewey, I see. Got to love that engine stand. Peace
@greggkiest1069
@greggkiest1069 7 ай бұрын
Your work is always on point. Enjoyed more time with Kyle. So much like dad.
@russellridge8623
@russellridge8623 7 ай бұрын
Kyle needs one of those in his Mustang. Help keep front end down. 😂. Merry Christmas all Steve & Co.
@jayceecombs6887
@jayceecombs6887 7 ай бұрын
And there's "Dewey" look'n for something "CHEWY!" GIT ON IT BOY! THANK YOU, J
@liamterry5301
@liamterry5301 7 ай бұрын
Awesome job Kyle!!!! You did awesome on that to figure that. And it make 200+ more HP!!!! 💪🥵🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@67stang65
@67stang65 7 ай бұрын
I really like how you buy the tool for the need and what’s it’s designed to do and not for the name and price. I’m the exact same way..I’m only going to use a tool maybe once or twice a month or even a year I have no problem buying a lot less expensive tool..but if it’s a everyday use tool I’ll spend the money on name brand
@picklesontheroad
@picklesontheroad 7 ай бұрын
Years ago, I built an old Harley Shovelhead engine. Bored, decked, balanced, ported and installed a ported and polished CV carb. I was expecting around 100 HP. After fire up and break in, it felt stock! After a bunch of playing around with timing the cam and ignition, jetting and a few valve adjustments, I figured to dual plug the heads. It ran really good when it was running rich. Installed the dual plugs, and the matching ignition, DAMNED THING LEAPED TO LIFE! We fairly easily hit our 100HP goal. Sometimes all it takes is the right ignition to bring a build together. Old tech sometimes needs a little bit of help to bring it to life.
@Ron_Masterjohn
@Ron_Masterjohn 7 ай бұрын
Was that with a points ignition or electronic?
@picklesontheroad
@picklesontheroad 7 ай бұрын
@@Ron_Masterjohn That was with points and dual coils to start with, I tried a hallcell electronic ignition but didn't like how hard it was to start and went back to the points.
@Ron_Masterjohn
@Ron_Masterjohn 7 ай бұрын
@@picklesontheroad interesting thanks,
@jaygullion8013
@jaygullion8013 7 ай бұрын
Your gonna love that saw when fabricating stuff! My dad had one we did everything from roll bar tubing to small pencil tubing to making bushings! Looks cumbersome but it's not its very versatile especially if you put wheels on it lol
@derx6666
@derx6666 7 ай бұрын
Love how Steve makes Kyle think for himself instead of just giving him the answers. Also you might've lost (or not made) money on this dyno session, but you gained quite a bit of new knowledge in the meantime. Crazy to see the massive difference between the MSD box and the smartcoils. Great video guys.
@jsmcortina
@jsmcortina 7 ай бұрын
The IGN1A coils are inductive vs. capacitive discharge. As Steve said, the inductive spark last a lot longer (typically 1ms). You also lose spark energy through the dizzy - was this one phased correctly? As far as I'm aware, the primary reason people went to CDI was in the days of distributors when a single inductive coil didn't have enough time to charge at high revs. With the availability of multi-coil systems, no need to waste spark energy in a dizzy.
@Skibumsplace
@Skibumsplace 7 ай бұрын
Well done young Morris! You're a natural.
@scottholbert2742
@scottholbert2742 7 ай бұрын
Great job Kyle, and as always you to Steve
@Kraken270Jetsprint
@Kraken270Jetsprint 7 ай бұрын
Like the editing steve .esp in video reminders upcoming videos
@JeepnJ89
@JeepnJ89 7 ай бұрын
Good job man, those numbers N/A blow my mind.
@markgerrard1892
@markgerrard1892 7 ай бұрын
Steve, FWIW, Beta is one of the biggest pro tool manufactures in Europe and elsewhere in the world. They have a very rich motorsports heritage and have been in the tool business for decades. Quite a few F1 teams use their stuff and their yearly, beefy catalog is very drool-worthy. About 20 years ago I worked for a friend that tried to introduce Beta to the US market (we were based out of Denver) but the domestic brands were too entrenched and had too many mechanics in their debt to switch even through Beta was superior (IMHO).
@StewMac570
@StewMac570 7 ай бұрын
Sorry Steve, I didn’t quite understand your explanation of the coil and taser. Could you please do live demonstration on Nate so we all get a better understanding of the differences?
@marcusambrester
@marcusambrester 7 ай бұрын
Great job, Kyle!
@jamesf2656
@jamesf2656 7 ай бұрын
Wow! What a gift, very kind
@letsgo8941
@letsgo8941 7 ай бұрын
Nothing against a multi coil system but I believe something was wrong with the MSD box.
@MrR6guy
@MrR6guy 7 ай бұрын
agreed!
@Ron_Masterjohn
@Ron_Masterjohn 7 ай бұрын
Typical and why I’m not to excited about using MSD
@Kosmonooit
@Kosmonooit 7 ай бұрын
Nice ... new tool day is always a good day! You should hook up with Fireball Tool for one of his fab tables, he has got it sussed and some nice products. Also features in Aboms new workshop
@bayoumike544
@bayoumike544 7 ай бұрын
I like when the caution screen comes up. I know its going to be good! Not that anything is bad.
@superheatsubcool
@superheatsubcool 7 ай бұрын
It's great watching your son become a Bad Ass, from father to son.
@johnnystanley4469
@johnnystanley4469 7 ай бұрын
Wow that is a big big difference.
@jasonstormoen
@jasonstormoen 7 ай бұрын
Them Kelly Green 🟢 Spark Plug Holders, Are You Telling Everyone ND 🏈Go Irish? That was a good tune for pump gas, and a nice burn on the spark plug.
@finnroen2334
@finnroen2334 7 ай бұрын
I have a question. This is a big NA engine, but in runs on 93 octane pump gas and has a 115 LSA camshaft, not usually known for making peak torque numbers. 1253 lb/ft divided by 843 CID is 1.486 lb/ft/CID. Is this not way beyond a suspiciously good result? I mean, "Some say" that that just the top 10% of engine builders manages 1.35 and only the top 1% achieves 1.40.
@user-nv5vx5sh8b
@user-nv5vx5sh8b 7 ай бұрын
A 2" spacer under the throttle plates may slow the torque drop at RPM. Plenum (room to breath)
@flinch622
@flinch622 7 ай бұрын
Odd... its like the msd box just lost its advance or something. Noise [like a lost filter capacitor]? What do they revert to on apparent trigger loss?
@Fl3uv3
@Fl3uv3 7 ай бұрын
Nice Optimisation! Fall off curve gone.
@johnnystanley4469
@johnnystanley4469 7 ай бұрын
Nice work Kyle
@michaelgallopo5879
@michaelgallopo5879 7 ай бұрын
Interesting video on that engine keep living the dream ✨️
@user-bc9sz1dj1g
@user-bc9sz1dj1g 7 ай бұрын
Hey Steve, Tim here, theres more there, the ignition is still ur achilles heal....but u got SIGNIFICANT power........i wish the torque curve was better tho....a nice flat one shows volumetric efficiency......when it dies down quickly, we still got an issue, fundamental NA........i know ur a boosted dude, a bit more attention, that 800, some odd cube monster, COULD muster a better torque curve......make it more usable, NOT just peak #.......just a thought
@robertbruno2863
@robertbruno2863 7 ай бұрын
Cool video, quick question. What is the white light switch for??
@isaacrishel636
@isaacrishel636 7 ай бұрын
The intake needs more volume the throttle plates are to close to the runners
@hankclingingsmith8707
@hankclingingsmith8707 7 ай бұрын
It a street motor
@Physhi
@Physhi 7 ай бұрын
Sometimes the engineer learns something new from time to time!
@GoatPilot04
@GoatPilot04 7 ай бұрын
Hey SM team, don't be scared to post a full length, unedited video. Or at least a longer format one that shows even the preliminary pulls and tuning.
@zachgertken4077
@zachgertken4077 7 ай бұрын
Love the videos keep up the good work!!
@710performance
@710performance 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for another great video!
@recoilrob324
@recoilrob324 7 ай бұрын
It's nice to have a power fall off a little so when you shift you're rocking the rpm over the peak...very nice! Shift that big motor about 6500 and it'll do great. And with over 5" stroke I don't think you'd want to rev any harder just for longevity reasons. That motor is going to turn the car anything but loose!
@11ride4life
@11ride4life 6 ай бұрын
I wish I had a father like you, he is a lucky kid!
@jestablitz3804
@jestablitz3804 7 ай бұрын
Pure real street racer. Buy that i mean Aussie street lol. That thing be a weapon at the lights ;)
@jasonm3109
@jasonm3109 7 ай бұрын
Does adding the magnet to the cam pulley cause any imbalance issues?
@rickcampbell1846
@rickcampbell1846 16 күн бұрын
Shop: Hey, we got 1200hp but we can add timing and get more unless thats enough. Customer: You actually called to see if I want more HP? Shop: Your right, stupid question, we will call you back.
@snocrushr
@snocrushr 7 ай бұрын
Why do people keep calling KEYS, key ways. It's like calling a fence post a post hole. 😒
@flyonbyya
@flyonbyya 6 ай бұрын
An easy 1200 hp @ 6500 with Conservative tune on 93….The beauty of a mountain motor!
@Frank289100
@Frank289100 7 ай бұрын
KYLE, NICE BIG CUBE FORD CLEVELAND STYLE ENGINE YOU HAVE THERE.
@bradduranso534
@bradduranso534 6 ай бұрын
Steve: “Kyle’s going to show you guys how to read a spark plug.” (next scene) Kyle: “yep spark plug looks good…” ✍🏼👂🏼👀
@troyadams1076
@troyadams1076 7 ай бұрын
Got to be proud of that son 👏
@petesmith8000
@petesmith8000 7 ай бұрын
Steve - take a look at a Fireball Vice... lol
@JohnRoberts71
@JohnRoberts71 7 ай бұрын
Great content thanks for sharing
@DaleTerry
@DaleTerry 6 ай бұрын
That 115 lobe separation must make great cylinder pressure. Low lift air.
@eddieparis6739
@eddieparis6739 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video
@2873lonewolf
@2873lonewolf 7 ай бұрын
That is one BIG motor, can't even imagine the piston size. 1200hp is alot on pump 93, at least the way I understand it.
@randyweaver3576
@randyweaver3576 7 ай бұрын
Steve so you are telling us the smart coil are better then a msd box . You son did a great job with that. I looked to build a blower motor .
@garytull7730
@garytull7730 3 ай бұрын
Hmmm, so one bank of that 843 inch monster is about as big as my 427 street motor.....whoa.....
@LSC2001
@LSC2001 7 ай бұрын
What would twin turbos do for an engine that size? Huge HP?
@billdoodson4232
@billdoodson4232 6 ай бұрын
Being in the UK I see quite a number of pkaces that sell Beta and I have used some of it. But I had two spanners fail, one combo, the ring literally snapped off. Never touched it again.
@dirtydeedzmainecultavator68
@dirtydeedzmainecultavator68 7 ай бұрын
great video👍✌️
@plnthrd
@plnthrd 7 ай бұрын
decades ago I got fed up with MSD ignition and my buddy that ran a Pro Mod convinced me to change my stuff to Mallory....I did and gained .05 and 3 MPH!
@davidreed6070
@davidreed6070 7 ай бұрын
Good video Kile.
@K-Effect
@K-Effect 7 ай бұрын
Awesome engine. I know it’s not designed for mileage, but driving it conservatively around town and on the freeway I wonder what kind of mileage it would get with an overdrive? 5-7 mpg?
@jaydunbar7538
@jaydunbar7538 7 ай бұрын
On drag week pulling the trailers loaded with gear it’s 12-13 if I’m recalling correctly.
@WildEngineering
@WildEngineering 7 ай бұрын
from my limited knowledge the lift values will determine the RPM and the duration values determine where in the power band the car will make the most power.
@HurdleHelps
@HurdleHelps 7 ай бұрын
That engine can probably run at 4500 rpm all day like in an offshore boat. I would love to see a couple of custom SM specials inside of a 40 something foot CAT truning 2000hp at 4500rpm for 3 hours. They could make an audio tape. I would just listen to it.
@johnnygeorgopoulos4072
@johnnygeorgopoulos4072 7 күн бұрын
That stand is dope, but man too bad you didn't reconfigure the dyno to start the pull earlier with that big azz thing, it was dropping torque from the instant the pull started lol.... I wanna see if that thing made over 1k torque from the stab 😅
@2sipsMax
@2sipsMax 7 ай бұрын
Carry on son, dad just learned something lol.
@fredericrike5974
@fredericrike5974 7 ай бұрын
Kyle, as a thought, try thinking and speaking of your service purchasers as clients rather than customers. Everybody goes to 7-11 and "the biggest dang coffee shop franchise in the entire world" and gets ripped off- because they are customers, people who dropped by and whos pocket may not drive this way tomorrow. Now, down at Miss Salley's Breakfast Salon, you get service that know your name, is your coffee black or with cream; there you are a "client", someone they hope for a continuing business relation with. You seem to have the feel of it well in hand, I just thought it might give you a different insight. Btw, I learned that difference from a car dealer named Carl Sewell, a Cadillac peddler, one of the very best.
@user-on6vv2qn2d
@user-on6vv2qn2d 7 ай бұрын
That’s a cool engine stand
@tfriesen3866
@tfriesen3866 6 ай бұрын
17:10 Kyle that cam sounds like a baby cam.
@ericmillrd6768
@ericmillrd6768 6 ай бұрын
I had similar cam in a 528 Ford
@joeanderson444
@joeanderson444 7 ай бұрын
I'm guessing a bigger combustion area would require a taller lobe on a bigger cam at higher RPM's to allow for enough air intake to make any power???
@jaredcissell5142
@jaredcissell5142 7 ай бұрын
So I remember learning about this in a book I read from the 50's on engine theory. If I remember right then jist of it was that the longer the stroke, the longer the piston dwell @tdc (the point where the piston actually stops to change direction) and this increases dwell is the reason the larger cubic inch engines perform like they have a smaller cam than what we are used to experiencing with a smaller stroked version of the same engine.. Please correct me if I'm wrong just felt like sharing.
@bcbloc02
@bcbloc02 7 ай бұрын
Also the more cubes you have to feed from the same heads it takes a ton more duration to do it.
@jaredcissell5142
@jaredcissell5142 7 ай бұрын
The additional time at Tdc also smoothes out the overlap situation some I do believe
@shanerorko8076
@shanerorko8076 5 ай бұрын
How much cam do we need? 360°...... crank rotation.
@chrisrogers5644
@chrisrogers5644 7 ай бұрын
my opinion is this unit was built to have a torque peak at an rpm closer to idle with a broad curve and lower peak hp. like a truck application. or jet boat etc...the curve on the screen was strong indicator but when kyle mentioned 115 degree lobe seperation angle it drove it home to me. Engine like a nascar application has a much lower numerical angle like 108 or lower. picture that air and fuel has mass, when its swirling suspended in the intake plenum, runner and port it has weight. and a lower angle aids proper cylinder filling at high rpm above 8k where a nascar engine operates, aiding cylinder filling. lobe seperation angle is a very little known aspect of cam design. but has as much to do with engine performance characteristics as lift or duration.
@shoresharp8349
@shoresharp8349 7 ай бұрын
Steve Morris has a huge ci 844 and they say it's going to be a na engine. That 844 with 4 kits of nitrous would make that baby scream.
@scotthultin7769
@scotthultin7769 7 ай бұрын
156 👍's up Steve Morris thank you for sharing 😊
@timothyhess9403
@timothyhess9403 7 ай бұрын
Steve too bad they didn’t send you a free welding table!
@michaeltrue1143
@michaeltrue1143 7 ай бұрын
Look at fireball tools for a Welding table!
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