2005-2010 Honda Odyssey | Review and What to LOOK for if you're buying one

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In this video, I review a recent purchase, a 2005 Honda Odyssey that we bought to transport a lot of people!
I call the 2005-2010 Honda Odyssey - The BEST affordable minivan you can buy. Whether you’re a soccer mom, or a man who’s lost all self-esteem, if you’re looking to transport a lot of people for cheap, this is the car for you! I recently bought this minivan from a coworker who’s owned it since new. Today I’m going to show you around this Honda Odyssey and tell you why I decided to buy this. After that, I will share with you some of my favorite features, take it for a drive, and at the end, I’ll point out some of the things you should LOOK for if you’re planning on buying one.
It is well known that Chrysler gave birth to the minivan movement here in the states when in 1983, they came out with their Plymouth Voyager and Dodge Caravan. Since then, many automakers have followed suit with their own renditions like GM’s Astro Van, Ford’s Aerostar, and Toyota’s Van… Yes, they just plainly named it VAN... In typical Japanese fashion, this Honda Odyssey didn’t make a scene until 1995, but I think it has been the KING of Minivans ever since! (or is it Queen???) - Hey, Odyssey, what are your pronouns?

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@samfeldman1508 Жыл бұрын

I lost all my self esteem and picked up a 2010 with 48K miles. So far so good. Very comfortable and roomy. I already built a deck using it to pick up materials.

@antoniocamacho-lq6ej Жыл бұрын

Congratulations!! I'm really looking forward to losing mine and getting me one of these to live in. I gotta figure out how to install a vent though.

@AwesomeBlackDude 3 күн бұрын

Hey I've noticed there aren't any DIY deck floor videos for your Honda Odyssey. Any bad news on maintenance issues?

@jamesfriend4344 2 жыл бұрын

I bought an 07 in June, 194,000 miles. It runs like a new van and after 5,000 miles no issues...great van. I am usually alone when I drive, but I like minivans and had to have a Honda once in my lifetime. I have had a few Chrysler Town and Country vans, only one was a bad deal. Worst was a used Astro van. I have had an Aerostar and a Windstar too. The Aerostar was brand new in 1986 and was a sweet ride. My feelings and self-esteem ? Ah, c'mon, man! I just like minivans. I also have had 4 VW Microbuses, a '66, two '68s, and a '69. I like vans! But also I have had like 20 trucks and 90 cars. Yeah, took me 54 years of driving to get all that done.

@renardfields2975 Жыл бұрын

Hey James. I like minivans too although I’ve never owned one. I’ve dreamed of owning an Odyssey Touring for a long time. I’ve owned several Lexus LX470’s but I like the options and the space of the Odyssey van!!

@aegisreflector1239 11 ай бұрын

I love all kinds of cars, small sporty cars, Japanese cars, small smart type cars,trucks and even mini vans. A vehicle for different needs.

@baltimorebigman5999 7 ай бұрын

Hello I’m thinking about buying a 06 have you had to replace your timing belt or water pump or anything major? Just curious. I’m also coming from a 04 got totaled in a wreck. I miss it so much that was my baby baby.😂 lol

@danielhanawalt4998 5 ай бұрын

I'm looking at a 2007 Odyssey for our daughter for $2500. At a dealer I've dealt with before and are pretty good about negotiating. I've had 3 Town and Country vans. all with stow and go seating. I like those because I use the vans as wok horses and like the cargo space while allowing a seat to be pulled from the floor for extra passengers. Usually by myself so not often I need the extra seat. They were all good vans.

@bobbyc.5780 4 ай бұрын

I bought 2007 today with over a 100 thousand milles feeds like new car

@christophergaudreau9265 4 ай бұрын

Just got a 2007 Odyssey and Just turned 50 years old IDGAF what I drive as long as it doesn't leave me stranded on the side of the road like American cars do I am strictly a Honda and Toyota guy now

@WhiteWizzard 5 ай бұрын

I’ve driven and owned everything. High end sports cars to old school vans and trucks. I will say this without hesitation-the 05-07 Odyssey is the best deal in the used market for any vehicle in the entire spectrum. The fact you can get these for 5-6k with 100k miles -if you get a good serviced example with records….it is insane value. They have a great style in this era. People are getting 15-20k for crappy 90s American gas guzzler conversion vans with 200k on them right now. The quality of the engine, interior on EXL touring and features/comfort …..it’s insane they sell for what they do.

@Miguelsgarage 5 ай бұрын

Facts!

@destineygriffith511 Жыл бұрын

"A man with no self esteem, you could hide all your feelings in here" 💀🤣

@userrrrr12366 Жыл бұрын

I bought a used 2005 Honda Odyssey with 190 k miles. Still runs wonderfully. It has its hiccups here and there being 18 years old but it always seems to resolve itself. With regular matience I'm excited to get many more years out of it. I love my Odyssey, it's my first car and I'll be an Odyssey owner for the rest of my life

@lanesh7245 Жыл бұрын

May I ask how much you paid for it?

@cbarkins Жыл бұрын

I just bought a 2005 Honda Odyssey for $6100. So far so good

@Oracles001 Жыл бұрын

I’m a soccer dad with 6 kids and the van handles amazing 😂

@Miguelsgarage Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣 that’s good to hear!! God bless you! I have 2 and most of the time I think that’s enough 🤣 How long have you had it and any issues or recommendations you have for us?

@angieramirez1080 2 жыл бұрын

Drove my 2005 odyssey for 6 years. I got hit. Got totaled. I'm now in the market for another odyssey. Great vehicle

@DJ5HY 3 жыл бұрын

Dude, your video is hilarious AND informative. Thanks!

@Miguelsgarage 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@glenmorse9533 Жыл бұрын

I bought a 2007 Honda Odyssey several years ago and still have it. It's as good as can be expected. The air conditioner didn't work when I bought it. I never fixed it. The one sliding door gives me trouble, I just don't use that one. It's 16 years old and has 85 thousand miles on it. I had a new water pump and timing belt put on it so I don't worry about the timing belt breaking because that would ruin my engine. I love the way this van handles and the space. I took the back seats out so I can use the van for hauling things and fishing equipment to go fishing.

@rilesbeme123 8 ай бұрын

Bro you funny as hell. You had me dying at the frozen and man with low self esteem. Cheers

@Miguelsgarage 8 ай бұрын

🤣 just speaking the truth hahahaha!! Glad you enjoyed it!! Thanks for watching, I appreciate it!

@FPVPRINTS 2 жыл бұрын

the laugh i got from this video is worth the 3k i just spent on my odyssey.

@KookiDowg Жыл бұрын

Still living in my 05 Odyssey. 167k miles and still going strong!

@antoniocamacho-lq6ej Жыл бұрын

It's my dream home.

@cassguenther749 4 ай бұрын

I'm literally buying one tomorrow for the same reason.

@KookiDowg 4 ай бұрын

@@cassguenther749 Good luck! This was the best upgrade after living in a 99 CR-V. Loved the thing especially since it was manual but unfortunately I wanted something bigger and so I bought this van from my family to continue the vanlife in SoCal. I just changed all the seals along with the timing belt and water pump on mine last weekend. So I hope it'll still last on my end. Very easy cars to work and maintain on and highly recommend getting one if the price is right.

@suneelkemp9961 2 жыл бұрын

I need this minivan I recently met a girl and I like her I need a minivan so I can store in my feelings and I will get the odyssey to pay tribute in your name👊🏾

@amyard1871 3 жыл бұрын

I really enjoyed this review. Lmao “If you’re a man, you can hide all your feelings back here.”

@Miguelsgarage 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed!!

@MrMikeandjeanne 2 жыл бұрын

@@Miguelsgarage zseas54ztrry

@johnmccall9605 Жыл бұрын

Love the humor man. Keep it up

@Miguelsgarage Жыл бұрын

Thanks! I’m glad you enjoyed! I appreciate the comments!

@olgapoustovar4556 3 ай бұрын

Love my 2010 Ody. Best car ever. Along with Suby Legacy wagon 😂

@jeansandmyshirt 2 жыл бұрын

love it. thanks it really helped me. been looking for a 2005 model

@tonynguyen2117 2 жыл бұрын

Your videos are hilarious keep it going man I'm about to pick up a Honda Odyssey

@thelastrebelshow1627 2 жыл бұрын

So you lost all your self esteem? Sorry to hear it bro. 😹

@johnnyberning 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome, bro.....great content!

@bkpatl2532 Ай бұрын

I am still driving my 05 Odyssey EX-L with NAV/DVD package, has 132K miles and has been flawless for me. Went to dealership to look at a 2024 Odyssey, after looking at the price of new Odyssey I said to my self, nope i am keeping the old.

@benhesterly462 Жыл бұрын

Thanks, I'm looking at a 2005 Oddessy now and you have some great tips. Thanks again

@Miguelsgarage Жыл бұрын

Glad I could help! Let me know how it works out for you!!

@danielhanawalt4998 5 ай бұрын

I'm researching the Honda Odyssey. Looking at a 2007. $2500. 220K miles. I think it might be a good vehicle for our daughter. Hopefully it is. Can't afford to go any higher on price. Good video. Thanks for the info.

@davidmiller6765 20 күн бұрын

A little late for reply but i can assure you that you won't regrets buying it if you can find one at good prices. 😉

@danielhanawalt4998 20 күн бұрын

@@davidmiller6765 Turns out it's a good vehicle. Has a few issues but nothing serious. She likes it.

@QuattroMac 9 күн бұрын

Just bought a 2008 215k miles for $1000 on Facebook. Just needed a new alternator. Ecstatic 😊

@DevotionalDaveakaPFM Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your review, I'm looking to buying a 2005 with 191K miles - looks great and will be testing it out this week.

@Miguelsgarage Жыл бұрын

Thanks and good luck 🍀

@artex4special 2 жыл бұрын

Great Video!

@bryanhill4516 Жыл бұрын

Two things. Get rid of the PAX tire and wheel set up, and invest in a VCM tuner

@loudawgs Жыл бұрын

Curious, how much are you selling your Honda Odyssey for? Great informative video!

@oppolee3582 3 жыл бұрын

Good review

@jacr6521 2 жыл бұрын

This would be perfect for my fishing poles and kayak transport

@BethBScratchology 2 жыл бұрын

Lol just bought a 09 to haul scouts. Funny that was your reason too!

@kaimanson3174 2 жыл бұрын

Great video composition! Keep up the good work, but no too informative on issues with Odyssey Gen. 3 05-10 and what to look for before buying one. I'll give u a hand on that. 1. 05-07 came with a weak tranny design, Some 07 and all 08-10 came with a more robust tranny. 2. Gen.3 LX and EX doesn't have VCM. While EX-L and Touring cane with VCM. VCM stands for Variable Cylinder Management. VCM if not deactivated with a called "muzzler" tents to destroy ur rings which create a "burn oil issue, + misfires", this is the most important item on the list, check for oil consumption, ******skip if burning oil****** ring replacement is not cheap. As well it chew ur rear mount like a chewable candy. Make sure timing has been replaced at least within a 100k or 10 years time frame. Broken belt on this is a goner. 3. Look for water intrusion thru the roof seams a common problem on these Gen 3, which if not fix can create electrical issues. Usually water leaks are located by the passenger or driver footrest or trunk area. 4. Sliding door rear latching mechanism and door actuator issues. - draining parasite effect. Easy fixes watching KZfaq. Broken wire on the sliding door means not maintenance. Lubrication is a must once a year with white lithium grease. Rollers need to be replaced if there movement on the door when open. 5. Spout valve/ VTEC solenoid - leak, alternator 1# killer 6. Record on transmission fluid drain and fill ( a must for transmission longevity) 7. If it has a hitch make sure has a transmission cooler.

@slobo5568 2 жыл бұрын

does the 07 really have tranny issues? ive read that Honda took care of that for the most part after 05.. so many mixed opinions out there online..

@WookieSenshi Жыл бұрын

One thing I didn't see you mention was the run flat tires issue. Did you not run into that?

@AwesomeBlackDude Жыл бұрын

Solution Problem #1 To circumvent the problem with 05-07 weak tranny simply install a super cooler cost less than $240. Gen.3 is 2005 LX-EX model year introduced the third-generation Odyssey.

@pinkfiffty3094 Жыл бұрын

True, great info!

@pinkfiffty3094 Жыл бұрын

@@slobo5568 07-10 pretty good overall, 05-06 are better than 2nd gens but still somewhat problematic.

@moritz1006 3 жыл бұрын

how is your mk3 doing? would be thrilled to see another video :)

@Miguelsgarage 3 жыл бұрын

Both are sitting in the garage patiently waiting for their turn run wild! I should be doing an update video soon. I've recorded one 3 times now and have had either audio or video problems, so I'll have to redo them. Stay tuned! Thanks for your support!

@olumideolunloyo4436 2 жыл бұрын

Nice video, pls can one use it as normal car as other cars all day?

@imranabbasi7871 3 жыл бұрын

👍💖 I love your honda odyssey minivan van

@Paeoniarosa 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for the info and the humor!

@dsl2588 3 жыл бұрын

Love my 2005 Honda Odyssey EXL with over 250,000kms. So comfortable on those long trips and grear handling for everyday driving. You are right about the premature wear on the rear engine mount.

@seanwalker9287 2 жыл бұрын

How many transmissions

@dsl2588 2 жыл бұрын

@@seanwalker9287 I've never changed the transmission. I just do regular transmission fluid changes.

@aegisreflector1239 11 ай бұрын

@@dsl2588how often do you do that

@kyletrent.mp4 4 ай бұрын

The rust on the back wheel wells seen in the video is very common for these 05 Hondas. Nearly every one I see on the road has that issue with rust in that spot. Luckily mine aren't too bad

@asifkhaled6198 2 ай бұрын

Is there aftermarket backups camera for this u can install?

@Lavoss05 2 жыл бұрын

Bought a 07 3 years ago and at first it was going to be used for towing a quad but my son end up liking it and I decided to do a fully reconditioning the Van, it had 173,000 miles on it and looked like just about any other Odyssey thats on the Road today with cloudy headlights and some light body damage and dirty inside also only the very minimal maintenance has been done I normally dont buy use cars with this age and miles but the original owner was my girlfriend and its only been to Honda for anything and everything that became a problem, Before starting the Reconditioning i drove it several time from California to Nevada climbing Baker grade to see overall the Condition Of the Engine and Transmission and both did very well along with getting 29MPG on a number of trips back and forth with that information I started the Reconditioning of the Van which Looks New and Rides new inside and out Drove it to Yellowstone with just me and my Girlfriend and the Extra room of a Van Was great for a week and few day trip with Food and clothes and Everything Else, seeing people in there cars over packed and stuff and with limited space reminded me on how much of a good idea the Van was even if i have only one kid also the range on a tank of gas is Excellent the Tank is rated for 21 gallons but once the pump stops i can put in an additional 4 gallons with a total of 25 gallons i have recorded over 680 miles on a tank of gas on the highway dont think you can get that on a SUV you dont have to be a soccer mom to take advantage of this Van and as a man i have to give props where props are Due and the 3rd generation Odyssey is a Good Vehicle.

@Miguelsgarage 2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like you're getting your money's worth!!!

@renardfields2975 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the details. I’m looking at purchasing an 09 Odyssey Touring but it’s overpriced at $9400 with 165K miles. I do love the extra space and the gas mileage!! I currently own an SUV

@Lavoss05 Жыл бұрын

@@renardfields2975 That is a bit high for the year and miles i mean is it extra clean or een refreshened up or something special does it have all its repair records?

@rhpphr11 Жыл бұрын

Did you check to see if manufacturers maintenence was followed asI believe it has an INTERFERENCE engine and requires the timing belt be REPLACED every 60k-105k? 2000 dollar bill if you are lucky enough to find a dealer who will do it for you.Of coarse you could chance it but if it slips,breaks,or comes off engine is junk!The pistons smash into the valves.Check it out man it's REAL!

@Lavoss05 Жыл бұрын

@@rhpphr11 the timing belt was the first maintenance I did on the van and completely went through it from there taking about 2 years to get it up to my standard as in looks, interior, exterior and reliability, the van is mainly used for road trips or long distance travel so everything has to be on point and given the age and miles a lot of parts where replaced even though they didn't fail yet and glad i did cause it runs really good and just came back from Las Vegas and drove from Cali to Nevada drove around Vegas for a few days and drove back to Cali on a single tank and no mechanical issues, I put 680.0 miles on the tank and got 29.0 MPG and thats a mix of mostly Highway driving with some city driving as well if it was all Highway I could had gotten well over 30 MPG...not bad at all.

@honestcitizen1983 2 жыл бұрын

Just bought a 2007. Everything runs and works, except my driver door can't be locked or unlocked by power. Is this something I could fix myself?

@slobo5568 2 жыл бұрын

is it still holding up ok? thinking about purchasing an 07

@renardfields2975 Жыл бұрын

You’ll have to replace the cable inside the door!

@charlesbeall2589 6 ай бұрын

@@slobo5568 We may look into B U Y I N G one instead.

@krishsaini8463 Жыл бұрын

This is a nice car

@jpeterman57 2 жыл бұрын

Was this supposed to be what to look for or what to look out for??

@_Ramen-Vac_ Жыл бұрын

While I have a great appreciation for silly humor, that "Lost all dignity and self-respect" crack was ass.. lol ~these vans rule the highway and town more than any S2k. Just remove the seats in the back (15 minute job) and they're the best little handyman vans on the planet.

@369Bandido 11 ай бұрын

And I really must be a true kid of the keystone state. As soon as I saw where he was parked, I thought to myself "That looks like home." Sure enough, I saw the license plates😅😅😅😅

@VegasAlien1 Жыл бұрын

Did the storage area for little packets of drugs continue through all model years of the Odyssey?

@Miguelsgarage Жыл бұрын

I believe so, but I'm not an Odyssey drug dealing expert 🤣

@Sunshine93218 2 жыл бұрын

Where is the center seat located? I brought one without the center seat. Just the cup holders.

@Miguelsgarage 2 жыл бұрын

The center seat is removable. It's possible they removed it and never put it back in.

@kaimanson3174 2 жыл бұрын

Touring 05-07 model came with a optional tray + cup holder, no seat, 08-10 and some 05-07 have the foldable jump seat that when folded it has a small tray and cup holder as well.

@pinkfiffty3094 Жыл бұрын

or it could also be stored in the floor if the lazy susan is out

@TheMass33 3 жыл бұрын

Little Packets of Drugs 😂😆😂😆

@g4l430 4 ай бұрын

Simply stated you over estimated it's mileage. It's good but not great. I justify this as mileage per person and it makes me feel better. Simply stated, if you bought leather it didn't last. I thought I was abusive but when I looked to buy a used van they were all damaged in the same way. The door tracks will need to be replaced. It's not hard or expensive. It is relatively inexpensive to repair. Compared to my other cars this is cheap. Now that my kids are grown (and gone) this is the best in-door truck you could ever own!

@Mauitaoist 8 ай бұрын

We lost 3000 rentals during the fire here on Maui so so a friend of mine had one of these Odysseys in 07 and I got it for free just had to pay the back taxes which was about $1,200 of course the rear doors didn't work so I fixed that and then I got a good car now I'm living in my Odyssey and I definitely have no self-esteem

@oranethompson 2 ай бұрын

is it still working well

@Miguelsgarage 2 ай бұрын

I sold it a long time ago...

@panama-canada 2 жыл бұрын

Why didn’t Yiu clean your car before filming? It’s filthy on the inside.

@slobo5568 2 жыл бұрын

Shutup

@richellozamora6575 2 жыл бұрын

Yes… video is funny and informative… but yeaah, he shoudve cleaned it first before showing it to the world 😆😆😆

@kcirtapecreip4155 Жыл бұрын

Lol, the speedometer goes all the way to 160! WOW😁

@Miguelsgarage Жыл бұрын

This minivan means business!!! 🚙==========💨

@doopedspud6536 4 ай бұрын

I recently bought my 2005 honda oddessy i love it very depedable tons of room, and gets better gas milage then my car ,,so why knock it,

@Miguelsgarage 4 ай бұрын

How many miles?

@christophergaudreau9265 4 ай бұрын

I digress........... I am officially a soccer dad with no kids that I know of😅

@krishsaini8463 Жыл бұрын

self esteem is what we learned during health with mrs.salome do you know mrs.salome

@Miguelsgarage Жыл бұрын

I do not know Mrs Salome. I bet she was an awesome teacher who drove an odyssey!!

@rhpphr11 Жыл бұрын

@strongtowerman9661 Жыл бұрын

You recommend getting a 2010 honda odyssey van with 78k miles one owner??

@rhpphr11 Жыл бұрын

IF THE PRICE IS RIGHT! Otherwise it has an INTERFERENCE engine and requires the timing belt be REPLACED every 60k-105k? 2000 dollar

@strongtowerman9661 Жыл бұрын

@@rhpphr11 should the dealer know if timing belt has been replace or is there any way I can know if I purchase it???

@rhpphr11 Жыл бұрын

@@strongtowerman9661If it has been done properly they should be falling all over themselves to show documentation to prove it right?Otherwise Remove dust covers and inspect it

@rhpphr11 Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately it is not the only item to inspect.Actually the tensioner for the timing belt is the main culprit that looses its ability to maintain the tension leading to belt slippage/engine damage so you could inspect the belt and find it is new but they may not have replaced the tensioner or replaced it with one of the many aftermarket products(cheap) that will fail earlier than oem

@Backyard_Motorsports 8 ай бұрын

“Little packets of drugs” 😂😂

@baltimorebigman5999 7 ай бұрын

😂😂👍🏽 I have no feelings or self-esteem left

@Miguelsgarage 7 ай бұрын

Hang in there... it gets better! I hear that turbocharging them helps! LOL JK. Thanks for watching! I really appreciate it!

@Ritaje939 5 ай бұрын

I have this car

@369Bandido 11 ай бұрын

😂im looking at a 2010 EXL, Rootbeer-Rose color. It is mint with 145k on it here in vegas. They want 9000 and ill give em 7500 out the door and see what they say.

@RevHouse24 3 жыл бұрын

Can you do a video on a GMC Syclone?

@Miguelsgarage 3 жыл бұрын

Would love to!

@uknorlm1469 2 жыл бұрын

2006 honda odessey 118,000 for 3000 is it worth it??

@Miguelsgarage 2 жыл бұрын

It really depends on condition and options, but if everything checks out, that’s a good price!

@1188clean 2 жыл бұрын

I just let 1 get a away from me. It was a 05 with navigation and leather seats and DVD player in the back. 94k miles for 4k. Paint was chipping/fading in some spots and ac needed to be pumped up again. Kind of wish I would have bought it. Everything else in the market is pricey/beat up and tons of miles

@zoomfx777 Жыл бұрын

That's a 2007 model.

@ketolifestyle68 10 ай бұрын

my favorite feature is the sliding doors an holds 6 to 7 people,, i have a suburban sure bigger an stronger, but older an so out of date.. i wanna use it also as a fuck mobile

@getoffmedontjudge 10 ай бұрын

Lol

@supertrucker111579 3 жыл бұрын

🤣

@mustasheolll2020 2 жыл бұрын

The exterior looks good but man the interior looks so old lol

@AIToolsUniversity Жыл бұрын

I’ve lost my balls 😢

@thelastrebelshow1627 2 жыл бұрын

I don’t know Holmes , the sun glasses the made up name. I think the mini van is yours and you’ve lost all self esteem. Common admit it! 😹

@Miguelsgarage 2 жыл бұрын

I already said I bought the minivan! Catch up LOL

@thelastrebelshow1627 2 жыл бұрын

@@Miguelsgarage It’s all good bro I have one too. I also have two trucks and two Harley’s so my masculinity should be safe. 😹

@Miguelsgarage 2 жыл бұрын

@@thelastrebelshow1627 I sold mine already, so my masculinity has been restored LOL

@thelastrebelshow1627 2 жыл бұрын

@@Miguelsgarage 😹

@Johnny-ko5ec Жыл бұрын

You think you're hilarious don't you?

@nickdimitropoulo2491 9 ай бұрын

I had it for 2years lots of problems. It was just a lemon it cost me 8 thousand dollars I sold it for half price

@nickdimitropoulo2491 9 ай бұрын

Tell the people also about the bad issues that car has I own one. The friking think was likinge from the top of the engine to the bottom it my be a nice comfortable car but when the time belt go out you are f..CT up I am glad I sold it I had to put 2 quarters oil per week even after it cost me 700 dollars to to the licking repairs good luck friends

@Miguelsgarage 9 ай бұрын

What year was it and how long did you have it?

@nickdimitropoulo2491 9 ай бұрын

,2005 and full of problems fried that car was beautiful but utburry me with problems